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by: J. J. Lodder - Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:43 UTC

Garry Denke <GarryDenke@frontier.com> wrote:

> the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1
>
> 1 is shorthand for .999...

Correct, if you understand that it is not a shorthand.
These are just two different notations for the same thing.

> 0 is shorthand for .000...1

That one is wrong,

Jan

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by: Garry Denke - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 10:03 UTC

On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:21 AM UTC-6, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Garry Denke <Garry...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
> > the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1
> >
> > 1 is shorthand for .999...
> Correct, if you understand that it is not a shorthand.
> These are just two different notations for the same thing.
> > 0 is shorthand for .000...1
> That one is wrong,
>
> Jan

mathematicians are lazy so they use shorthand

the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1

mathematicians are lazy so they use shorthand

1 is shorthand for .999...
0 is shorthand for .000...1

mathematicians are lazy so they use shorthand

Garry Denke

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by: J. J. Lodder - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 11:13 UTC

Garry Denke <GarryDenke@frontier.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:21?AM UTC-6, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > Garry Denke <Garry...@frontier.com> wrote:
> >
> > > the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1
> > >
> > > 1 is shorthand for .999...
> > Correct, if you understand that it is not a shorthand.
> > These are just two different notations for the same thing.
> > > 0 is shorthand for .000...1
> > That one is wrong,
> >
> > Jan
>
> mathematicians are lazy so they use shorthand
>
> the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1
>
> mathematicians are lazy so they use shorthand
>
> 1 is shorthand for .999...
> 0 is shorthand for .000...1
>
> mathematicians are lazy so they use shorthand

Repetition doesn't make it true,

Jan

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by: Melchizedek King of - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 11:42 UTC

On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 7:56:46 AM UTC-6, Garry Denke wrote:
> the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1
>
> 1 is shorthand for .999...
> 0 is shorthand for .000...1
>
> Garry Denke

https://www.google.com/search?q="mathematicians+are+lazy+so+they+use+shorthand"
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by: Melchizedek King of - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 11:44 UTC

On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 4:03:30 AM UTC-6, Garry Denke wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:21 AM UTC-6, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > Garry Denke <Garry...@frontier.com> wrote:
> >
> > > the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1
> > >
> > > 1 is shorthand for .999...
> > Correct, if you understand that it is not a shorthand.
> > These are just two different notations for the same thing.
> > > 0 is shorthand for .000...1
> > That one is wrong,
> >
> > Jan
> mathematicians are lazy so they use shorthand
> the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1
> mathematicians are lazy so they use shorthand
> 1 is shorthand for .999...
> 0 is shorthand for .000...1
> mathematicians are lazy so they use shorthand
>
> Garry Denke
>
> mathematicians are lazy so they use shorthand

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22mathematicians+are+lazy+so+they+use+shorthand%22
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by: Maciej Wozniak - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 12:28 UTC

On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 12:13:48 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Garry Denke <Garry...@frontier.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:21?AM UTC-6, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > Garry Denke <Garry...@frontier.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1
> > > >
> > > > 1 is shorthand for .999...
> > > Correct, if you understand that it is not a shorthand.
> > > These are just two different notations for the same thing.
> > > > 0 is shorthand for .000...1
> > > That one is wrong,
> > >
> > > Jan
> >
> > mathematicians are lazy so they use shorthand
> >
> > the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1
> >
> > mathematicians are lazy so they use shorthand
> >
> > 1 is shorthand for .999...
> > 0 is shorthand for .000...1
> >
> > mathematicians are lazy so they use shorthand
> Repetition doesn't make it true,

You don't know much about the truth, do you, poor
halfbrain? It's not a physical object....

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by: J. J. Lodder - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 12:56 UTC

Melchizedek King of Salem <Melchizedek_KingofSalem@aol.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 7:56:46?AM UTC-6, Garry Denke wrote:
> > the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1
> >
> > 1 is shorthand for .999...
> > 0 is shorthand for .000...1
> >
> > Garry Denke
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q="mathematicians+are+lazy+so+they+use+shorthand
"
> No results found for "mathematicians are lazy so they use shorthand".

Laziness (aka efficient notation)
is of course a good thing in mathematics. (and in science in general)
Much of mathematics would be quite impossible without it.
Simon Stevin's invention of decimal arithmetic and decimal fractions
was a major breakthrough.
The 'scientific revolution' would have been impossible without it.

Now .999... is an adequate notation (on usenet) for .9-repeating,
and it will generally be understood as such.

However, .000...1 is not.
Trying to define it as 1.000... - 0.999... is an error,

Jan

--
"A good physicist cannot be lazy enough" (H. B. G. Casimir)

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by: Denoco Inc. - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 17:43 UTC

On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 7:56:46 AM UTC-6, Garry Denke wrote:
> the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1
>
> 1 is shorthand for .999...
> 0 is shorthand for .000...1
>
> Garry Denke

the Graviton, the Photon, and the Gluon masses are known,
thanks to the Real Math Dept (not the Fake Math Dept):

Graviton mass = .000...1 kg
Photon mass = .000...1 kg
Gluon mass = .000...1 kg

As measured by the Real Physics Dept
(not the Fake Physics Dept) being:

Graviton mass = .000...1 kg
Photon mass = .000...1 kg
Gluon mass = .000...1 kg

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Subject: Re: the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1
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by: Major Tom Threeperso - Mon, 6 Mar 2023 09:35 UTC

On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 5:42:18 AM UTC-6, Melchizedek King of Salem wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 7:56:46 AM UTC-6, Garry Denke wrote:
> > the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1
> >
> > 1 is shorthand for .999...
> > 0 is shorthand for .000...1
> >
> > Garry Denke
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=%22mathematicians+are+lazy+so+they+use+shorthand%22
> No results found for "mathematicians are lazy so they use shorthand".
>
> Melchizedek
> King of Salem

Three Persons:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mishkan-being-crushed-by-heel-stone-in-wiltshire
the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1
Two Persons:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mishkan-being-crushed-by-heel-stone-in-wiltshire
1 is shorthand for .999...
0 is shorthand for .000...1

One Person:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mishkan-being-crushed-by-heel-stone-in-wiltshire
Garry Denke

Major Tom
Threepersons

Subject	Author
the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1	Garry Denke
Re: the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1	J. J. Lodder
Re: the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1	Garry Denke
Re: the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1	J. J. Lodder
Re: the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1	Maciej Wozniak
Re: the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1	rotchm
Re: the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1	Melchizedek King of Salem
Re: the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1	Melchizedek King of Salem
Re: the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1	J. J. Lodder
Re: the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1	Major Tom Threepersons
Re: the 3 ones: 1 and .999... and .000...1	Denoco Inc.