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by: Gerald Kelleher - Mon, 23 Oct 2023 15:24 UTC

https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

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by: W - Tue, 24 Oct 2023 12:55 UTC

On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 11:24:02 AM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
> https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

No, it didn't.

It came out from behind an occulting disk.

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by: Gerald Kelleher - Tue, 24 Oct 2023 15:54 UTC

On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:55:28 PM UTC+1, W wrote:
> On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 11:24:02 AM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
> > https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/
>
> No, it didn't.
>
> It came out from behind an occulting disk.

Mars never moves from right to left and behind the Sun as it comes into view of a satellite tracking along with the faster-moving Earth.

https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

You are mistaking Mercury for Mars.

If it is any consolation, you are no better or worse than everyone else when it comes to the new perspective of our solar system research. When I think about how the observation, interpretation and conclusion would have been received by the first Sun-centred astronomers who had to make do with the Ptolemaic framework, that is the only comfort I experience.

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by: W - Tue, 24 Oct 2023 16:54 UTC

On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:54:15 AM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:55:28 PM UTC+1, W wrote:
> > On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 11:24:02 AM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
> > > https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/
> >
> > No, it didn't.
> >
> > It came out from behind an occulting disk.
> Mars never moves from right to left and behind the Sun as it comes into view of a satellite tracking along with the faster-moving Earth.
>
> https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/
>
> https://www.theplanetstoday.com/
>
> You are mistaking Mercury for Mars.
>
> If it is any consolation, you are no better or worse than everyone else when it comes to the new perspective of our solar system research. When I think about how the observation, interpretation and conclusion would have been received by the first Sun-centred astronomers who had to make do with the Ptolemaic framework, that is the only comfort I experience.

SO, you were lying in your initial post of the thread! You mistook Mercury for Mars.

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by: Gerald Kelleher - Tue, 24 Oct 2023 18:05 UTC

On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 5:54:07 PM UTC+1, W wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:54:15 AM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:55:28 PM UTC+1, W wrote:
> > > On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 11:24:02 AM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
> > > > https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/
> > >
> > > No, it didn't.
> > >
> > > It came out from behind an occulting disk.
> > Mars never moves from right to left and behind the Sun as it comes into view of a satellite tracking along with the faster-moving Earth.
> >
> > https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/
> >
> > https://www.theplanetstoday.com/
> >
> > You are mistaking Mercury for Mars.
> >
> > If it is any consolation, you are no better or worse than everyone else when it comes to the new perspective of our solar system research. When I think about how the observation, interpretation and conclusion would have been received by the first Sun-centred astronomers who had to make do with the Ptolemaic framework, that is the only comfort I experience.
> --
>
> SO, you were lying in your initial post of the thread! You mistook Mercury for Mars.

Mars is there, it is actually moving in the same direction as Mercury, but because it moves slower than the Earth, it appears to move from left to right.

https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

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by: W - Tue, 24 Oct 2023 22:12 UTC

On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 2:05:20 PM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 5:54:07 PM UTC+1, W wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:54:15 AM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:55:28 PM UTC+1, W wrote:
> > > > On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 11:24:02 AM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
> > > > > https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/
> > > >
> > > > No, it didn't.
> > > >
> > > > It came out from behind an occulting disk.
> > > Mars never moves from right to left and behind the Sun as it comes into view of a satellite tracking along with the faster-moving Earth.
> > >
> > > https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/
> > >
> > > https://www.theplanetstoday.com/
> > >
> > > You are mistaking Mercury for Mars.
> > >
> > > If it is any consolation, you are no better or worse than everyone else when it comes to the new perspective of our solar system research. When I think about how the observation, interpretation and conclusion would have been received by the first Sun-centred astronomers who had to make do with the Ptolemaic framework, that is the only comfort I experience.
> > --
> >
> > SO, you were lying in your initial post of the thread! You mistook Mercury for Mars.
> Mars is there, it is actually moving in the same direction as Mercury, but because it moves slower than the Earth, it appears to move from left to right.
>
> https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

Mars did not "come into view." You are still lying...

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by: W - Tue, 24 Oct 2023 23:12 UTC

Relative to the background stars seen, the Sun, Mercury and Mars are all moving to the left.

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by: Gerald Kelleher - Wed, 25 Oct 2023 09:03 UTC

On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 12:12:13 AM UTC+1, W wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 2:05:20 PM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 5:54:07 PM UTC+1, W wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:54:15 AM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:55:28 PM UTC+1, W wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 11:24:02 AM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
> > > > > > https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/
> > > > >
> > > > > No, it didn't.
> > > > >
> > > > > It came out from behind an occulting disk.
> > > > Mars never moves from right to left and behind the Sun as it comes into view of a satellite tracking along with the faster-moving Earth.
> > > >
> > > > https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/
> > > >
> > > > https://www.theplanetstoday.com/
> > > >
> > > > You are mistaking Mercury for Mars.
> > > >
> > > > If it is any consolation, you are no better or worse than everyone else when it comes to the new perspective of our solar system research. When I think about how the observation, interpretation and conclusion would have been received by the first Sun-centred astronomers who had to make do with the Ptolemaic framework, that is the only comfort I experience.
> > > --
> > >
> > > SO, you were lying in your initial post of the thread! You mistook Mercury for Mars.
> > Mars is there, it is actually moving in the same direction as Mercury, but because it moves slower than the Earth, it appears to move from left to right.
> >
> > https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/
> Relative to the background stars seen, the Sun, Mercury and Mars are all moving to the left.

Once again, you certainly act as a reminder of the standard among contributors here, if that is any consolation. I am not so cruel and realise that most contributors already know that the change of position of the stars from left to right is a reflection of the Earth's orbital motion, thereby setting the Sun up as a reference at the centre of the solar system and all planetary motions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2uCtot1aDg

Relative to the central Sun and the moving Earth, Mercury is moving behind the Sun from right to left while Venus is moving between the slower-moving Earth from left to right as the inner planets run smaller circuits closer to our parent star in much the same way as Jupiter's satellites with a bunch of additions and adjustments-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcrBAuLBXag

The best contributors hope for is that they and I die before it inevitably surfaces into the mainstream, and that is such a poor outcome considering that the satellite has a limited operational span. I can't say that I do not mind; just dismayed, as would be expected.

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by: W - Sun, 29 Oct 2023 09:42 UTC

On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 5:03:29 AM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 12:12:13 AM UTC+1, W wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 2:05:20 PM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 5:54:07 PM UTC+1, W wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:54:15 AM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:55:28 PM UTC+1, W wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 11:24:02 AM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
> > > > > > > https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, it didn't.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It came out from behind an occulting disk.
> > > > > Mars never moves from right to left and behind the Sun as it comes into view of a satellite tracking along with the faster-moving Earth.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.theplanetstoday.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > You are mistaking Mercury for Mars.
> > > > >
> > > > > If it is any consolation, you are no better or worse than everyone else when it comes to the new perspective of our solar system research. When I think about how the observation, interpretation and conclusion would have been received by the first Sun-centred astronomers who had to make do with the Ptolemaic framework, that is the only comfort I experience.
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > SO, you were lying in your initial post of the thread! You mistook Mercury for Mars.
> > > Mars is there, it is actually moving in the same direction as Mercury, but because it moves slower than the Earth, it appears to move from left to right.
> > >
> > > https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/
> > Relative to the background stars seen, the Sun, Mercury and Mars are all moving to the left.
> Once again, you certainly act as a reminder of the standard among contributors here, if that is any consolation. I am not so cruel and realise that most contributors already know that the change of position of the stars from left to right is a reflection of the Earth's orbital motion, thereby setting the Sun up as a reference at the centre of the solar system and all planetary motions.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2uCtot1aDg
>
> Relative to the central Sun and the moving Earth, Mercury is moving behind the Sun from right to left while Venus is moving between the slower-moving Earth from left to right as the inner planets run smaller circuits closer to our parent star in much the same way as Jupiter's satellites with a bunch of additions and adjustments-
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcrBAuLBXag
>
> The best contributors hope for is that they and I die before it inevitably surfaces into the mainstream, and that is such a poor outcome considering that the satellite has a limited operational span. I can't say that I do not mind; just dismayed, as would be expected.

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Subject	Author
Mars comes into view	Gerald Kelleher
Re: Mars comes into view	W
Re: Mars comes into view	Gerald Kelleher
Re: Mars comes into view	W
Re: Mars comes into view	Gerald Kelleher
Re: Mars comes into view	W
Re: Mars comes into view	W
Re: Mars comes into view	Gerald Kelleher
Re: Mars comes into view	W