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* DANGER: US scientists create new lethal Covid variantJan Panteltje
+* Re: DANGER: US scientists create new lethal Covid variantPhil Allison
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+* Re: DANGER: US scientists create new lethal Covid variantJohn Larkin
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 by: Jan Panteltje - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 04:37 UTC

https://www.rt.com/news/564864-boston-covid-variant-lethal/
US scientists create new lethal Covid variant
The lab team behind the mutant variant was accused of playing with fire

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bill....@ieee.org wrote:
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Jan Panteltje wrote:
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> > https://www.rt.com/news/564864-boston-covid-variant-lethal/
> > US scientists create new lethal Covid variant
> > The lab team behind the mutant variant was accused of playing with fire.

>
> Russia Today would claim something like that, and Jan Panteltje woukld be silly enough to take them seriously.
>

** See 138 page paper cited in news item.
Looks real.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.10.13.512134v1.full.pdf

.... Phil

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 by: bitrex - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 12:52 UTC

On 10/18/2022 1:29 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 4:13:06 PM UTC+11, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
>> bill....@ieee.org wrote:
>> -----------------------------------
>> Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.rt.com/news/564864-boston-covid-variant-lethal/
>>>> US scientists create new lethal Covid variant
>>>> The lab team behind the mutant variant was accused of playing with fire.
>>>
>>> Russia Today would claim something like that, and Jan Panteltje woukld be silly enough to take them seriously.
>>>
>> ** See 138 page paper cited in news item.
>> Looks real.
>>
>> https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.10.13.512134v1.full.pdf
>
> And lethal to lab mice. Lunatic conspiracy theory nuts do get excited about this , but they also believe that Covid-19 escaped from the Wuhan virus lab, probably by infecting a winged pig.
>

And the important part is that the engineered variant is 80% lethal in
"in K18-hACE2 mice" that is to say mice that were engineered for the
original Washington strain to be highly lethal to.

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 by: Ricky - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 13:34 UTC

On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 1:13:06 AM UTC-4, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
> bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> -----------------------------------
> Jan Panteltje wrote:
> >
> > > https://www.rt.com/news/564864-boston-covid-variant-lethal/
> > > US scientists create new lethal Covid variant
> > > The lab team behind the mutant variant was accused of playing with fire.
> >
> > Russia Today would claim something like that, and Jan Panteltje woukld be silly enough to take them seriously.
> >
> ** See 138 page paper cited in news item.
> Looks real.
>
> https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.10.13.512134v1.full.pdf

Who was it that said, "Build a better mouse trap..."?

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 by: John Larkin - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 14:44 UTC

On Tue, 18 Oct 2022 04:37:10 GMT, Jan Panteltje
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>https://www.rt.com/news/564864-boston-covid-variant-lethal/
> US scientists create new lethal Covid variant
> The lab team behind the mutant variant was accused of playing with fire

We have to compete with the Chinese.

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 16:05 UTC

On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 12:37:55 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> https://www.rt.com/news/564864-boston-covid-variant-lethal/
> US scientists create new lethal Covid variant
> The lab team behind the mutant variant was accused of playing with fire

Another one of your posts resultant of your mindlessness and ignorance. You can't understand *anything* you read. Even a semi-intelligent person would naturally ask " Well, how susceptible to succumbing to infection are these k18-hACE2 mice?" The answer is VERY susceptible. Research from November 2020- !NOTE THE YEAR!- demonstrated the virus killed them stone cold dead in 6 days flat!

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19891-7

Don't bother reading it because it will deflate your propensity for irrational doomsday hysteria.

So now they put together a chimera that expresses Omicron S-protein spikes. A mortality of only 80% seems like a step up for the mice. More importantly, the chimeric virus will not evade vaccine induced immunity of the latest Pfizer bivalent vaccine- mainly because it is specific to the Omicron S-protein. And it will not evade Omicron infection induced immunity for at least six months.

I scanned the paper quickly, did not study it, but looking at the section highlights it looks fundamental. They were mainly focused on pathogenicity and what effect the various mutational changes have.

And the paper loses epidemiological relevance by failing to investigate the transmissibility of it all. And that's in line with their basic research, which was not to produce a lethal new strain- which they did by accident- lethal to highly susceptible mice.

Do you see how Russia Today has made a fool out of you?

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 16:15 UTC

On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 8:52:32 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
> On 10/18/2022 1:29 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 4:13:06 PM UTC+11, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> >> -----------------------------------
> >> Jan Panteltje wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> https://www.rt.com/news/564864-boston-covid-variant-lethal/
> >>>> US scientists create new lethal Covid variant
> >>>> The lab team behind the mutant variant was accused of playing with fire.
> >>>
> >>> Russia Today would claim something like that, and Jan Panteltje woukld be silly enough to take them seriously.
> >>>
> >> ** See 138 page paper cited in news item.
> >> Looks real.
> >>
> >> https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.10.13.512134v1.full.pdf
> >
> > And lethal to lab mice. Lunatic conspiracy theory nuts do get excited about this , but they also believe that Covid-19 escaped from the Wuhan virus lab, probably by infecting a winged pig.
> >
> And the important part is that the engineered variant is 80% lethal in
> "in K18-hACE2 mice" that is to say mice that were engineered for the
> original Washington strain to be highly lethal to.

The mice were developed to study the original SARS coronavirus at least as far back as 2007 ( 15 years ago). But at least you're thinking.

https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/JVI.02012-06

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 16:23 UTC

On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 1:13:06 AM UTC-4, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
> bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> -----------------------------------
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> >
> > > https://www.rt.com/news/564864-boston-covid-variant-lethal/
> > > US scientists create new lethal Covid variant
> > > The lab team behind the mutant variant was accused of playing with fire.
> >
> > Russia Today would claim something like that, and Jan Panteltje woukld be silly enough to take them seriously.
> >
> ** See 138 page paper cited in news item.

It's only 38 pages, potty mouth.

> Looks real.

It's not what you think it is.

>
> https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.10.13.512134v1.full.pdf
>
> ... Phil

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On 10/18/2022 10:44 AM, John Larkin wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Oct 2022 04:37:10 GMT, Jan Panteltje
> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> https://www.rt.com/news/564864-boston-covid-variant-lethal/
>> US scientists create new lethal Covid variant
>> The lab team behind the mutant variant was accused of playing with fire
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> We have to compete with the Chinese.
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Given Russia's military "performance", likely not nearly as hard as we
have been. But defense budgets always go up regardless

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On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 06:59:34 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
#dailyfakefromSydney removed

There are 1,000+ coronaviruses present in our daily environment, according to dr. Sauci,
so there are thousands of mutant variants
and experiments are under way

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US university that did the experiment now under investigation:
https://www.rt.com/news/564999-deadly-covid-strain-niaid-boston/

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On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 1:21:54 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
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There is no such investigation. NIAID is responding to political hysteria over possible government funding of gain-of-function research, so they want clarification from the BU research group. It's an administrative issue, and nobody has called in the FBI to confiscate all their records, equipment and lab samples.

You can't understand anything you read, which is not surprising since you're just as likely to believe aliens at BU did it.

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