why are you using a clock?

Mitchell Raemsch

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> why are you using a clock?
>
> Mitchell Raemsch

Okay, help me with my Time problem...

If you got one twin on earth..
and his watch sez 12:00pm...
and the other twin is on
the Moon...and his watch
sez 1200:pm

and he walks to
the otherside
of the moom..
What time does his watch sez?

I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter
what time zone he is on the Moon?

I mean, is it still the same time
whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon???

Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon????

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On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> why are you using a clock?
>>
>> Mitchell Raemsch
>
>
> Okay, help me with my Time problem...
>
> If you got one twin on earth..
> and his watch sez 12:00pm...
> and the other twin is on
> the Moon...and his watch
> sez 1200:pm
>
> and he walks to
> the otherside
> of the moom..
> What time does his watch sez?
>
> I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter
> what time zone he is on the Moon?
>
> I mean, is it still the same time
> whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon???
>
> Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon????
>
>
>
>
>

Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock
shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle
regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of
some parts of China).

Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense
will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set
their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity
owns the base.

Sylvia.

On 3/6/2023 9:02 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> why are you using a clock?
>>>
>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>
>>
>> Okay, help me with my Time problem...
>>
>> If you got one twin on earth..
>> and his watch sez 12:00pm...
>> and the other twin is on
>> the Moon...and his watch
>> sez 1200:pm
>>
>> and he walks to
>> the otherside
>> of the moom..
>> What time does his watch sez?
>>
>> I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter
>> what time zone he is on the Moon?
>>
>> I mean, is it still the same time
>> whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon???
>>
>> Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon????
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock
> shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle
> regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of
> some parts of China).
>
> Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense
> will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set
> their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity
> owns the base.
>
> Sylvia.

"Starmaker" does not comprehend the difference of elapsed time between
events and the human usage of locally assigned time. Most of the
questions he raises in these newsgroups are based on common word
applications without any ability to appreciate the essential nuances
implicit in specific usages. It gets even worse because he apparently
cannot fathom the specifics associated with words i.e. "two," "to," and
"too." One can easily see his consistent use of the wrong version of
words in his postings. Initially I thought he was just trying to be
funny but eventually the true nature of his handicap in these regards
became apparent.

As a result I've stopped reading his input because he clearly intends to
avoid achieving any progress while clearly demonstrating his intention
to remain the clown in the back of a classroom while also clearly often
demonstrating an inebriated state when posting.

Where it comes to wasting my time I have much better ways to achieve
that.

In sci.physics Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
> On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> why are you using a clock?
>>>
>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>
>>
>> Okay, help me with my Time problem...
>>
>> If you got one twin on earth..
>> and his watch sez 12:00pm...
>> and the other twin is on
>> the Moon...and his watch
>> sez 1200:pm
>>
>> and he walks to
>> the otherside
>> of the moom..
>> What time does his watch sez?
>>
>> I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter
>> what time zone he is on the Moon?
>>
>> I mean, is it still the same time
>> whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon???
>>
>> Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon????
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock
> shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle
> regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of
> some parts of China).
>
> Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense
> will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set
> their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity
> owns the base.
>
> Sylvia.
>

That is what has been done to date, but see this:

https://scitechdaily.com/what-time-is-it-on-the-moon-advancing-a-new-lunar-timezone/

On 07-Mar-23 3:16 pm, Jim Pennino wrote:
> In sci.physics Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
>> On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> why are you using a clock?
>>>>
>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, help me with my Time problem...
>>>
>>> If you got one twin on earth..
>>> and his watch sez 12:00pm...
>>> and the other twin is on
>>> the Moon...and his watch
>>> sez 1200:pm
>>>
>>> and he walks to
>>> the otherside
>>> of the moom..
>>> What time does his watch sez?
>>>
>>> I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter
>>> what time zone he is on the Moon?
>>>
>>> I mean, is it still the same time
>>> whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon???
>>>
>>> Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon????
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock
>> shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle
>> regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of
>> some parts of China).
>>
>> Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense
>> will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set
>> their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity
>> owns the base.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>>
>
> That is what has been done to date, but see this:
>
> https://scitechdaily.com/what-time-is-it-on-the-moon-advancing-a-new-lunar-timezone/
>
>

A common reference time is clearly useful, but at this point it probably
makes more sense to use Earth based atomic time. But even then, there's
no reason for wall clocks on the Moon to track that exactly. They'll
probably still be based on the local time of the terrestrial owner.

Sylvia.

On Tuesday, 7 March 2023 at 05:48:43 UTC+1, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 07-Mar-23 3:16 pm, Jim Pennino wrote:
> > In sci.physics Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid> wrote:
> >> On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> why are you using a clock?
> >>>>
> >>>> Mitchell Raemsch
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Okay, help me with my Time problem...
> >>>
> >>> If you got one twin on earth..
> >>> and his watch sez 12:00pm...
> >>> and the other twin is on
> >>> the Moon...and his watch
> >>> sez 1200:pm
> >>>
> >>> and he walks to
> >>> the otherside
> >>> of the moom..
> >>> What time does his watch sez?
> >>>
> >>> I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter
> >>> what time zone he is on the Moon?
> >>>
> >>> I mean, is it still the same time
> >>> whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon???
> >>>
> >>> Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon????
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock
> >> shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle
> >> regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of
> >> some parts of China).
> >>
> >> Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense
> >> will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set
> >> their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity
> >> owns the base.
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> >>
> >
> > That is what has been done to date, but see this:
> >
> > https://scitechdaily.com/what-time-is-it-on-the-moon-advancing-a-new-lunar-timezone/
> >
> >
> A common reference time is clearly useful, but at this point it probably
> makes more sense to use Earth based atomic time. But even then, there's
> no reason for wall clocks on the Moon to track that exactly. They'll
> probably still be based on the local time of the terrestrial owner.

For sure no serious clocks will ever rely on the nonsense
invented by Your insane gurus.

Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
>
> Horribly telling that this shithead government spammer can make new threads to sci.physics while the people actually doing physics in sci.physics cannot.

Learn grasshopper...

First, by now yous notice https://www.aioe.org/ newsserver is gone,
chrashed for some time already?

That only leaves with one left
a free Usenet newsserver...

http://www.eternal-september.org/
http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=techinfo

news.eternal-september.org

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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:

> On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> > mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> why are you using a clock?
> >>
> >> Mitchell Raemsch
> >
> >
> > Okay, help me with my Time problem...
> >
> > If you got one twin on earth..
> > and his watch sez 12:00pm...
> > and the other twin is on
> > the Moon...and his watch
> > sez 1200:pm
> >
> > and he walks to
> > the otherside
> > of the moom..
> > What time does his watch sez?
> >
> > I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter
> > what time zone he is on the Moon?
> >
> > I mean, is it still the same time
> > whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon???
> >
> > Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon????
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock
> shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle
> regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of
> some parts of China).
>
> Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense
> will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set
> their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity owns
> the base.

As is already done in permanent stations in Antarctica.
Some stations shift though, with a different time for summer and winter.
Nothing deep there, just practicalities,

Jan

On Tuesday, 7 March 2023 at 11:14:35 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:

> As is already done in permanent stations in Antarctica.
> Some stations shift though, with a different time for summer and winter.
> Nothing deep there, just practicalities,

No Lorentz transforms, no "Laws of Nature" mumbo
jumbo, just clocks and time.

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 2:29:38 AM UTC-8, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Tuesday, 7 March 2023 at 11:14:35 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>
> > As is already done in permanent stations in Antarctica.
> > Some stations shift though, with a different time for summer and winter..
> > Nothing deep there, just practicalities,
> No Lorentz transforms, no "Laws of Nature" mumbo
> jumbo, just clocks and time.
Yes, time is absolute and universal. Time is real because change is real. There is no block universe with the past present and future existing at once because there is only three dimensions. So, no science cannot prove time is real. Relativity is pseudo-scientific nonsense.

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 5:40:24 PM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 2:29:38 AM UTC-8, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 7 March 2023 at 11:14:35 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >
> > > As is already done in permanent stations in Antarctica.
> > > Some stations shift though, with a different time for summer and winter.
> > > Nothing deep there, just practicalities,
> > No Lorentz transforms, no "Laws of Nature" mumbo
> > jumbo, just clocks and time.
> Yes, time is absolute and universal. Time is real because change is real. There is no block universe with the past present and future existing at once because there is only three dimensions. So, no science cannot prove time is real. Relativity is pseudo-scientific nonsense.
CORRECTION: Of course, I meant "no science cannot prove time is NOT real" as you can tell. Can I blame my grammar checker? Time is distance divided by speed as in 2 hours= 60 miles/ 30 mph. A correct definition of time as applicable to physics is necessary to avoid relativity errors. Time dilation is ad hoc nonsense.

Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 5:40:24 PM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 2:29:38 AM UTC-8, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, 7 March 2023 at 11:14:35 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > >
> > > > As is already done in permanent stations in Antarctica.
> > > > Some stations shift though, with a different time for summer and winter.
> > > > Nothing deep there, just practicalities,
> > > No Lorentz transforms, no "Laws of Nature" mumbo
> > > jumbo, just clocks and time.
> > Yes, time is absolute and universal. Time is real because change is real. There is no block universe with the past present and future existing at once because there is only three dimensions. So, no science cannot prove time is real. Relativity is pseudo-scientific nonsense.
> CORRECTION: Of course, I meant "no science cannot prove time is NOT real" as you can tell. Can I blame my grammar checker? Time is distance divided by speed as in 2 hours= 60 miles/ 30 mph. A correct definition of time as applicable to physics is necessary to avoid relativity errors. Time dilation is ad hoc nonsense.

You can blame your iphone checker.

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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> >
> > On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 5:40:24 PM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 2:29:38 AM UTC-8, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, 7 March 2023 at 11:14:35 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > As is already done in permanent stations in Antarctica.
> > > > > Some stations shift though, with a different time for summer and winter.
> > > > > Nothing deep there, just practicalities,
> > > > No Lorentz transforms, no "Laws of Nature" mumbo
> > > > jumbo, just clocks and time.
> > > Yes, time is absolute and universal. Time is real because change is real. There is no block universe with the past present and future existing at once because there is only three dimensions. So, no science cannot prove time is real. Relativity is pseudo-scientific nonsense.
> > CORRECTION: Of course, I meant "no science cannot prove time is NOT real" as you can tell. Can I blame my grammar checker? Time is distance divided by speed as in 2 hours= 60 miles/ 30 mph. A correct definition of time as applicable to physics is necessary to avoid relativity errors. Time dilation is ad hoc nonsense.
>
> You can blame your iphone checker.
>

pretending to be a anti-einstein, dats a good one..

in your excitement in getting back you make mistakes...

but you're still...Odd.

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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.