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Too little, too late?

https://www.dpreview.com/news/8185781394/apple-self-service-repair-program

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On Wednesday, 17 November 2021 at 21:21:28 UTC-5, RichA wrote:
> Too little, too late?
>
> https://www.dpreview.com/news/8185781394/apple-self-service-repair-program

https://techxplore.com/news/2021-11-pressure-apple-self-repairs-iphones-macs.html

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 by: geoff - Thu, 18 Nov 2021 03:54 UTC

On 18/11/2021 3:21 pm, RichA wrote:
> Too little, too late?
>
> https://www.dpreview.com/news/8185781394/apple-self-service-repair-program
>

A cunning plan to facilitate users to root their iPhones, so that they
can purchase new ones !

geoff

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In article <EOidnaMpHYH6Uwj8nZ2dnUU7-YnNnZ2d@giganews.com>, geoff
<geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:

> > Too little, too late?
> >
> > https://www.dpreview.com/news/8185781394/apple-self-service-repair-program
> >
>
> A cunning plan to facilitate users to root their iPhones, so that they
> can purchase new ones !

that makes absolutely no sense.

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 by: Alan Browne - Thu, 18 Nov 2021 14:05 UTC

On 2021-11-17 22:54, geoff wrote:
> On 18/11/2021 3:21 pm, RichA wrote:
>> Too little, too late?
>>
>> https://www.dpreview.com/news/8185781394/apple-self-service-repair-program
>>
>>
>
> A cunning plan to facilitate users to root their iPhones, so that they
> can purchase new ones !

'brick'. And not likely.

--
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man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
-Samuel Clemens

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 by: geoff - Thu, 18 Nov 2021 20:09 UTC

On 19/11/2021 12:31 am, nospam wrote:
> In article <EOidnaMpHYH6Uwj8nZ2dnUU7-YnNnZ2d@giganews.com>, geoff
> <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
>
>>> Too little, too late?
>>>
>>> https://www.dpreview.com/news/8185781394/apple-self-service-repair-program
>>>
>>
>> A cunning plan to facilitate users to root their iPhones, so that they
>> can purchase new ones !
>
> that makes absolutely no sense.
>

'Root' in the sense of stuff, ruin, break, destroy, fuck, whatever.

geoff

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On 2021-11-18 15:09, geoff wrote:
> On 19/11/2021 12:31 am, nospam wrote:
>> In article <EOidnaMpHYH6Uwj8nZ2dnUU7-YnNnZ2d@giganews.com>, geoff
>> <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
>>
>>>> Too little, too late?
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dpreview.com/news/8185781394/apple-self-service-repair-program
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> A cunning plan to facilitate users to root their iPhones, so that they
>>> can purchase new ones !
>>
>> that makes absolutely no sense.
>>
>
> 'Root' in the sense of stuff, ruin, break, destroy, fuck, whatever.

In computerish, root usually means to install malware in the root
directory or bootstrap section of the boot media.

--
"...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white
man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
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 by: nospam - Thu, 18 Nov 2021 20:33 UTC

In article <idOdnVzRk4WXLgv8nZ2dnUU7-YOdnZ2d@giganews.com>, geoff
<geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:

> >>> Too little, too late?
> >>>
> >>> https://www.dpreview.com/news/8185781394/apple-self-service-repair-program
> >>>
> >>
> >> A cunning plan to facilitate users to root their iPhones, so that they
> >> can purchase new ones !
> >
> > that makes absolutely no sense.
> >
>
> 'Root' in the sense of stuff, ruin, break, destroy, fuck, whatever.

that's not what root means.

but even using your meaning, it still makes no sense.

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 by: geoff - Thu, 18 Nov 2021 23:56 UTC

On 19/11/2021 9:33 am, nospam wrote:
> In article <idOdnVzRk4WXLgv8nZ2dnUU7-YOdnZ2d@giganews.com>, geoff
> <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
>
>>>>> Too little, too late?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.dpreview.com/news/8185781394/apple-self-service-repair-program
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A cunning plan to facilitate users to root their iPhones, so that they
>>>> can purchase new ones !
>>>
>>> that makes absolutely no sense.
>>>
>>
>> 'Root' in the sense of stuff, ruin, break, destroy, fuck, whatever.
>
> that's not what root means.
>
> but even using your meaning, it still makes no sense.
>

Unfortunately your vernacular appears somewhat limited.

geoff

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 by: Alan Browne - Fri, 19 Nov 2021 00:02 UTC

On 2021-11-18 18:56, geoff wrote:
> On 19/11/2021 9:33 am, nospam wrote:
>> In article <idOdnVzRk4WXLgv8nZ2dnUU7-YOdnZ2d@giganews.com>, geoff
>> <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Too little, too late?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.dpreview.com/news/8185781394/apple-self-service-repair-program
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A cunning plan to facilitate users to root their iPhones, so that they
>>>>> can purchase new ones !
>>>>
>>>> that makes absolutely no sense.
>>>>
>>>
>>> 'Root' in the sense of stuff, ruin, break, destroy, fuck, whatever.
>>
>> that's not what root means.
>>
>> but even using your meaning, it still makes no sense.
>>
>
> Unfortunately your vernacular appears somewhat limited.

Better limited and subject appropriate than broad and incoherent.

--
"...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white
man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
-Samuel Clemens

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 by: nospam - Fri, 19 Nov 2021 00:06 UTC

In article <Q-udnbOSk5SzdQv8nZ2dnUU7-f-dnZ2d@giganews.com>, geoff
<geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:

> >>>>> Too little, too late?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.dpreview.com/news/8185781394/apple-self-service-repair-progr
> >>>>> am
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> A cunning plan to facilitate users to root their iPhones, so that they
> >>>> can purchase new ones !
> >>>
> >>> that makes absolutely no sense.
> >>>
> >>
> >> 'Root' in the sense of stuff, ruin, break, destroy, fuck, whatever.
> >
> > that's not what root means.
> >
> > but even using your meaning, it still makes no sense.
> >
>
> Unfortunately your vernacular appears somewhat limited.

i'm not the one using the wrong words to describe something, which even
if you used the correct words, still makes no sense.

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 by: geoff - Sat, 20 Nov 2021 00:21 UTC

On 19/11/2021 1:06 pm, nospam wrote:
> In article <Q-udnbOSk5SzdQv8nZ2dnUU7-f-dnZ2d@giganews.com>, geoff
> <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> Too little, too late?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.dpreview.com/news/8185781394/apple-self-service-repair-progr
>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A cunning plan to facilitate users to root their iPhones, so that they
>>>>>> can purchase new ones !
>>>>>
>>>>> that makes absolutely no sense.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 'Root' in the sense of stuff, ruin, break, destroy, fuck, whatever.
>>>
>>> that's not what root means.
>>>
>>> but even using your meaning, it still makes no sense.
>>>
>>
>> Unfortunately your vernacular appears somewhat limited.
>
> i'm not the one using the wrong words to describe something, which even
> if you used the correct words, still makes no sense.
>

So you don't think unleashing the wherewithal to every Tom Dick and
Harry to attempt to repair their own phones will likely result in an
increase in the number of (insert appropriate word of your choice here
if you are vocabulary-challenged, or particular) phones that will likely
be replaced with new ones ?

geoff

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On Thursday, 18 November 2021 at 15:30:21 UTC-5, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2021-11-18 15:09, geoff wrote:
> > On 19/11/2021 12:31 am, nospam wrote:
> >> In article <EOidnaMpHYH6Uwj8...@giganews.com>, geoff
> >> <ge...@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Too little, too late?
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.dpreview.com/news/8185781394/apple-self-service-repair-program
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> A cunning plan to facilitate users to root their iPhones, so that they
> >>> can purchase new ones !
> >>
> >> that makes absolutely no sense.
> >>
> >
> > 'Root' in the sense of stuff, ruin, break, destroy, fuck, whatever.
> In computerish, root usually means to install malware in the root
> directory or bootstrap section of the boot media.

As opposed to "root" around? Which is, you know, English?

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 by: nospam - Sat, 20 Nov 2021 00:50 UTC

In article <C_adnbjo5dMLogX8nZ2dnUU7-UHNnZ2d@giganews.com>, geoff
<geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:

>
> So you don't think unleashing the wherewithal to every Tom Dick and
> Harry to attempt to repair their own phones will likely result in an
> increase in the number of (insert appropriate word of your choice here
> if you are vocabulary-challenged, or particular) phones that will likely
> be replaced with new ones ?

nope, because the people who want to do that and have the skills are
already doing their own repairs, sometimes with genuine parts and
sometimes not.

most people are not going to bother.

<https://www.macrumors.com/2021/11/19/only-a-small-fraction-will-use-sel
f-service-repair/>
Very few iPhone users will repair their own iPhone to postpone
their next smartphone purchase, despite the Self Service Repair
program, according to research by Consumer Intelligence Research
Partners (CIRP).

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 by: geoff - Sat, 20 Nov 2021 03:52 UTC

On 20/11/2021 1:31 pm, RichA wrote:
> On Thursday, 18 November 2021 at 15:30:21 UTC-5, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2021-11-18 15:09, geoff wrote:
>>> On 19/11/2021 12:31 am, nospam wrote:
>>>> In article <EOidnaMpHYH6Uwj8...@giganews.com>, geoff
>>>> <ge...@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Too little, too late?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.dpreview.com/news/8185781394/apple-self-service-repair-program
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A cunning plan to facilitate users to root their iPhones, so that they
>>>>> can purchase new ones !
>>>>
>>>> that makes absolutely no sense.
>>>>
>>>
>>> 'Root' in the sense of stuff, ruin, break, destroy, fuck, whatever.
>> In computerish, root usually means to install malware in the root
>> directory or bootstrap section of the boot media.
>
>
> As opposed to "root" around? Which is, you know, English?
>

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=A%20Root&page=2

And not only Australia. You could be forgiven for not know a colloquial
usage, but could have figured it out from the context.

geoff

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 by: Alfred Molon - Sat, 20 Nov 2021 14:38 UTC

Am 20.11.2021 um 04:52 schrieb geoff:
> On 20/11/2021 1:31 pm, RichA wrote:
>> On Thursday, 18 November 2021 at 15:30:21 UTC-5, Alan Browne wrote:
>>> On 2021-11-18 15:09, geoff wrote:
>>>> On 19/11/2021 12:31 am, nospam wrote:
>>>>> In article <EOidnaMpHYH6Uwj8...@giganews.com>, geoff
>>>>> <ge...@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Too little, too late?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.dpreview.com/news/8185781394/apple-self-service-repair-program
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A cunning plan to facilitate users to root their iPhones, so that
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> can purchase new ones !
>>>>>
>>>>> that makes absolutely no sense.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 'Root' in the sense of stuff, ruin, break, destroy, fuck, whatever.
>>> In computerish, root usually means to install malware in the root
>>> directory or bootstrap section of the boot media.
>>
>> As opposed to "root" around?  Which is, you know, English?
>>
>
>
> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=A%20Root&page=2
>
> And not only Australia.  You could be forgiven for not know a colloquial
> usage, but could have figured it out from the context.

Well, the context here is technical. I also interpreted "rooting a
phone" as gaining root access or installing some rootkit or other boot
software.
--
Alfred Molon

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In article <LL7mJ.104447$xalc.1808@fx12.ams1>, Alfred Molon
<alfred_molon@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A cunning plan to facilitate users to root their iPhones, so that
> >>>>>> they can purchase new ones !
> >>>>>
> >>>>> that makes absolutely no sense.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 'Root' in the sense of stuff, ruin, break, destroy, fuck, whatever.
> >>> In computerish, root usually means to install malware in the root
> >>> directory or bootstrap section of the boot media.
> >>
> >> As opposed to "root" around?  Which is, you know, English?
> >>
> >
> >
> > https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=A%20Root&page=2
> >
> > And not only Australia.  You could be forgiven for not know a colloquial
> > usage, but could have figured it out from the context.
>
> Well, the context here is technical. I also interpreted "rooting a
> phone" as gaining root access or installing some rootkit or other boot
> software.

yep. given the context, that's the correct interpretation of 'root',
which for android, is a well known term. on iphones, it's called
jailbreaking, although they're sometimes used interchangeably.

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On Saturday, 20 November 2021 at 14:45:59 UTC, nospam wrote:
> In article <LL7mJ.104447$xalc...@fx12.ams1>, Alfred Molon
> <alfred...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> A cunning plan to facilitate users to root their iPhones, so that
> > >>>>>> they can purchase new ones !
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> that makes absolutely no sense.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 'Root' in the sense of stuff, ruin, break, destroy, fuck, whatever.
> > >>> In computerish, root usually means to install malware in the root
> > >>> directory or bootstrap section of the boot media.
> > >>
> > >> As opposed to "root" around? Which is, you know, English?
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=A%20Root&page=2
> > >
> > > And not only Australia. You could be forgiven for not know a colloquial
> > > usage, but could have figured it out from the context.
> >
> > Well, the context here is technical. I also interpreted "rooting a
> > phone" as gaining root access or installing some rootkit or other boot
> > software.
> yep. given the context, that's the correct interpretation of 'root',
> which for android, is a well known term. on iphones, it's called
> jailbreaking, although they're sometimes used interchangeably.

Root for me will always be the 'master' or start/first directory of any OS.
Any other root is a vegetable or where a tree comes from.

Anything else is a distortaion that foreigners place on our words.

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On 23/11/2021 5:08 am, Whisky-dave wrote:
> On Saturday, 20 November 2021 at 14:45:59 UTC, nospam wrote:
>> In article <LL7mJ.104447$xalc...@fx12.ams1>, Alfred Molon
>> <alfred...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A cunning plan to facilitate users to root their iPhones, so that
>>>>>>>>> they can purchase new ones !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that makes absolutely no sense.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'Root' in the sense of stuff, ruin, break, destroy, fuck, whatever.
>>>>>> In computerish, root usually means to install malware in the root
>>>>>> directory or bootstrap section of the boot media.
>>>>>
>>>>> As opposed to "root" around? Which is, you know, English?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=A%20Root&page=2
>>>>
>>>> And not only Australia. You could be forgiven for not know a colloquial
>>>> usage, but could have figured it out from the context.
>>>
>>> Well, the context here is technical. I also interpreted "rooting a
>>> phone" as gaining root access or installing some rootkit or other boot
>>> software.
>> yep. given the context, that's the correct interpretation of 'root',
>> which for android, is a well known term. on iphones, it's called
>> jailbreaking, although they're sometimes used interchangeably.
>
> Root for me will always be the 'master' or start/first directory of any OS.
> Any other root is a vegetable or where a tree comes from.
>
> Anything else is a distortaion that foreigners place on our words.

"Our words" ! Great coming from a culture that thrives of misspelling,
mis-connotation, mis-pronunciation, and other misuse of words and
grammar of the English language. Most of which evolved with ignorance
being the driving force. ANd most don't even realise the differences !

For example - the rest of the English-speaking world doesn't use 'honk'
for 'wank or masturbate. But at least we do understand your usage.

geoff

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On Monday, 22 November 2021 at 21:17:38 UTC, geoff wrote:
> On 23/11/2021 5:08 am, Whisky-dave wrote:
> > On Saturday, 20 November 2021 at 14:45:59 UTC, nospam wrote:
> >> In article <LL7mJ.104447$xalc...@fx12.ams1>, Alfred Molon
> >> <alfred...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> A cunning plan to facilitate users to root their iPhones, so that
> >>>>>>>>> they can purchase new ones !
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> that makes absolutely no sense.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 'Root' in the sense of stuff, ruin, break, destroy, fuck, whatever.
> >>>>>> In computerish, root usually means to install malware in the root
> >>>>>> directory or bootstrap section of the boot media.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As opposed to "root" around? Which is, you know, English?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=A%20Root&page=2
> >>>>
> >>>> And not only Australia. You could be forgiven for not know a colloquial
> >>>> usage, but could have figured it out from the context.
> >>>
> >>> Well, the context here is technical. I also interpreted "rooting a
> >>> phone" as gaining root access or installing some rootkit or other boot
> >>> software.
> >> yep. given the context, that's the correct interpretation of 'root',
> >> which for android, is a well known term. on iphones, it's called
> >> jailbreaking, although they're sometimes used interchangeably.
> >
> > Root for me will always be the 'master' or start/first directory of any OS.
> > Any other root is a vegetable or where a tree comes from.
> >
> > Anything else is a distortaion that foreigners place on our words.
> "Our words" ! Great coming from a culture that thrives of misspelling,
> mis-connotation, mis-pronunciation, and other misuse of words and
> grammar of the English language.

That's the way the English language evolve, we no longer spell how shakespeare did.
..

>Most of which evolved with ignorance
> being the driving force. ANd most don't even realise the differences !

I can tell the differnce between american spelling of english and english english.
Isn't that way we have two separate dictionaries
> For example - the rest of the English-speaking world doesn't use 'honk'
> for 'wank or masturbate. But at least we do understand your usage.

I've never used honk for that, I thought that was american english.
I've not heard anyone use the word honk for masterbate either.

we use sherman, one off the wrist, hand job, even polishing the helmet amosnst others
but never heard honk used.

I've only ever heard it used as honk your horn which is a motorists way of telling someone to hurry up
or get out of the way.

I thought that was american english, used by blacks and why white people were called honkies in the USA because
of how they got black prostitutes to come over to their car.

>
> geoff

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On Monday, 22 November 2021 at 21:17:38 UTC, geoff wrote:
> On 23/11/2021 5:08 am, Whisky-dave wrote:
> > On Saturday, 20 November 2021 at 14:45:59 UTC, nospam wrote:
> >> In article <LL7mJ.104447$xalc...@fx12.ams1>, Alfred Molon
> >> <alfred...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> A cunning plan to facilitate users to root their iPhones, so that
> >>>>>>>>> they can purchase new ones !
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> that makes absolutely no sense.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 'Root' in the sense of stuff, ruin, break, destroy, fuck, whatever.
> >>>>>> In computerish, root usually means to install malware in the root
> >>>>>> directory or bootstrap section of the boot media.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As opposed to "root" around? Which is, you know, English?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=A%20Root&page=2
> >>>>
> >>>> And not only Australia. You could be forgiven for not know a colloquial
> >>>> usage, but could have figured it out from the context.
> >>>
> >>> Well, the context here is technical. I also interpreted "rooting a
> >>> phone" as gaining root access or installing some rootkit or other boot
> >>> software.
> >> yep. given the context, that's the correct interpretation of 'root',
> >> which for android, is a well known term. on iphones, it's called
> >> jailbreaking, although they're sometimes used interchangeably.
> >
> > Root for me will always be the 'master' or start/first directory of any OS.
> > Any other root is a vegetable or where a tree comes from.
> >
> > Anything else is a distortaion that foreigners place on our words.
> "Our words" ! Great coming from a culture that thrives of misspelling,
> mis-connotation, mis-pronunciation, and other misuse of words and
> grammar of the English language. Most of which evolved with ignorance
> being the driving force. ANd most don't even realise the differences !
>
> For example - the rest of the English-speaking world doesn't use 'honk'
> for 'wank or masturbate. But at least we do understand your usage.

Maybe you've been confused by the term "getting the horn" which is not the same as a honk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPcDREaxsu8

>
> geoff

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