On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 18:32:03 -0800 (PST), Rich <rander3128@gmail.com>
wrote:

>https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20231128-what-we-can-learn-from-the-ancient-art-of-wayfinding

But they're alive... unlike an awful lot of those who practiced those
old navigation methods, which so often failed.

On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 9:23:45 PM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 18:32:03 -0800 (PST), Rich <rande...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20231128-what-we-can-learn-from-the-ancient-art-of-wayfinding
>
> But they're alive... unlike an awful lot of those who practiced those
> old navigation methods, which so often failed.

I think, it's good to know old navigation methods, bc electronics, mobil phones can fail.
Even the military's basic training teach how to use maps, compass etc... to new recruits.
Even in every day life, it happens, people get hurt or die, bc gets lost in the mountain or forest during hiking.
I read a story, family was driving in heavy snow, fog, zero visibility, when grandpa had a nature call.
They pulled over, out in nowhere, grandpa jumped out to do his business, but never returned.
He had a mobile phone, but he left it in the car.
He was found dead, frozen 2 days later, after the weather cleared.
He never found his way back to the car, he was walking in circles till his end.
2-3 years ago, studied navigation on my own, even bought a US military compass.
It's very accurate, it lights without battery and no fluid inside, which can freeze.
Add a good map and one can navigate anywhere in the world, without GPS, just using map coordinates.

On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 3:26:09 AM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 9:23:45 PM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> > On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 18:32:03 -0800 (PST), Rich <rande...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20231128-what-we-can-learn-from-the-ancient-art-of-wayfinding
> >
> > But they're alive... unlike an awful lot of those who practiced those
> > old navigation methods, which so often failed.
> I think, it's good to know old navigation methods, bc electronics, mobil phones can fail.
> Even the military's basic training teach how to use maps, compass etc... to new recruits.
> Even in every day life, it happens, people get hurt or die, bc gets lost in the mountain or forest during hiking.
> I read a story, family was driving in heavy snow, fog, zero visibility, when grandpa had a nature call.
> They pulled over, out in nowhere, grandpa jumped out to do his business, but never returned.
> He had a mobile phone, but he left it in the car.
> He was found dead, frozen 2 days later, after the weather cleared.
> He never found his way back to the car, he was walking in circles till his end.
> 2-3 years ago, studied navigation on my own, even bought a US military compass.
> It's very accurate, it lights without battery and no fluid inside, which can freeze.
> Add a good map and one can navigate anywhere in the world, without GPS, just using map coordinates.

All they family needed to do was to blow the car’s horn every few moments.

On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 3:22:24 AM UTC-8, W wrote:
> On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 3:26:09 AM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 9:23:45 PM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> > > On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 18:32:03 -0800 (PST), Rich <rande...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20231128-what-we-can-learn-from-the-ancient-art-of-wayfinding
> > >
> > > But they're alive... unlike an awful lot of those who practiced those
> > > old navigation methods, which so often failed.
> > I think, it's good to know old navigation methods, bc electronics, mobil phones can fail.
> > Even the military's basic training teach how to use maps, compass etc.... to new recruits.
> > Even in every day life, it happens, people get hurt or die, bc gets lost in the mountain or forest during hiking.
> > I read a story, family was driving in heavy snow, fog, zero visibility, when grandpa had a nature call.
> > They pulled over, out in nowhere, grandpa jumped out to do his business, but never returned.
> > He had a mobile phone, but he left it in the car.
> > He was found dead, frozen 2 days later, after the weather cleared.
> > He never found his way back to the car, he was walking in circles till his end.
> > 2-3 years ago, studied navigation on my own, even bought a US military compass.
> > It's very accurate, it lights without battery and no fluid inside, which can freeze.
> > Add a good map and one can navigate anywhere in the world, without GPS, just using map coordinates.
> All they family needed to do was to blow the car’s horn every few moments.

They probably did, but in the storm the old guy confused, went to wrong direction?
Some people have very poor sense of orientation, navigation, I guess?
In snow storms, high wind, even experienced hikers get lost and die.
The latest victim is the famous actor, Julian Sands who died on Mt. Baldy!

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/julian-sands-found-dead-after-missing-during-hike-1234779450/