Is that true that the 550 nm laser beam is first redshifted and then blueshifted?

At which distance the threshold from red to blue shifting happens?

Is GPS periodically affected by Moon's gravitational potential? Where are
the corrections detailed?

On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 10:26:48 AM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
> Is that true that the 550 nm laser beam is first redshifted and then blueshifted?
>
> At which distance the threshold from red to blue shifting happens?
>
> Is GPS periodically affected by Moon's gravitational potential? Where are
> the corrections detailed?

I'd like to see how Schwarzschilists solve this problem. LOL.

On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 12:33:19 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 10:26:48 AM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > Is that true that the 550 nm laser beam is first redshifted and then blueshifted?
> >
> > At which distance the threshold from red to blue shifting happens?
> >
> > Is GPS periodically affected by Moon's gravitational potential? Where are
> > the corrections detailed?
> I'd like to see how Schwarzschilists solve this problem. LOL.

I don't read about any relativist daring to write even an approximate equation, to honor their deity: Albert Einstein.

Advice: Drop Schwarzschild and try newtonian expression of gravitational potential along an axis between Earth and Moon.

Then, try to figure out what happens, periodically, to an atomic clock onboard of a GPS SV orbiting at 20,500 Km.

I don't know why this perturbation has been ignored. It's in the order of 10E-10, like the effect of motion and Earth.
The only difference is that is not constant.

But, as expected, relativists run in panic. Snowflakes.

On 3/16/2023 11:33 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 10:26:48 AM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
>> Is that true that the 550 nm laser beam is first redshifted and then blueshifted?
>>
>> At which distance the threshold from red to blue shifting happens?
>>
>> Is GPS periodically affected by Moon's gravitational potential? Where are
>> the corrections detailed?
>
> I'd like to see how Schwarzschilists solve this problem. LOL.

"Schwarzschilists"? You really are going down the path into dementia
quickly!

Anyway, the gravity of the moon (and sun) does affect the orbits, in the
ns range, and these effects are included in the parameters of the
downlink, along with ionosphere activity, solar wind and so forth.

On 3/16/2023 9:26 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> Is that true that the 550 nm laser beam is first redshifted and then blueshifted [to the moon and back]?

What happens is the light gets redshifted when leaving the earth, then
(slightly) blueshifted once the moon's gravity potential becomes
dominant, then the reflected light gets slightly redshifted and then
blueshifted on the way to the detector. The sum of these will be ZERO.
The detection equipment isn't sensitive enough to detect any of these
redshifts/blueshifts by themselves anyway, and it's not what they're
looking for. They're looking at the timing, to determine the earth-moon
distance.

If you are talking about a one way trip, the net result is a redshift
since the earth's gravitational potential is stronger than that of the moon.

On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 1:15:13 PM UTC-3, Volney wrote:
> On 3/16/2023 9:26 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > Is that true that the 550 nm laser beam is first redshifted and then blueshifted [to the moon and back]?
>
> What happens is the light gets redshifted when leaving the earth, then
> (slightly) blueshifted once the moon's gravity potential becomes
> dominant, then the reflected light gets slightly redshifted and then
> blueshifted on the way to the detector. The sum of these will be ZERO.
> The detection equipment isn't sensitive enough to detect any of these
> redshifts/blueshifts by themselves anyway, and it's not what they're
> looking for. They're looking at the timing, to determine the earth-moon
> distance.
>
> If you are talking about a one way trip, the net result is a redshift
> since the earth's gravitational potential is stronger than that of the moon.

I asked for a mathematical expression, not bla bla bla.

But, as you sucks at math, it's OK.

You didn't answer how your Schwarzschild' solution (Mudrak 2017) was affected by the Moon.

On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 9:15:13 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> On 3/16/2023 9:26 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > Is that true that the 550 nm laser beam is first redshifted and then blueshifted [to the moon and back]?
>
> What happens is the light gets redshifted when leaving the earth, then
> (slightly) blueshifted once the moon's gravity potential becomes
> dominant,

Gravitational potentials are additive, not subtractive.

On 3/19/2023 1:05 PM, Dono. wrote:
> On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 9:15:13 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
>> On 3/16/2023 9:26 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
>>> Is that true that the 550 nm laser beam is first redshifted and then blueshifted [to the moon and back]?
>>
>> What happens is the light gets redshifted when leaving the earth, then
>> (slightly) blueshifted once the moon's gravity potential becomes
>> dominant,
>
> Gravitational potentials are additive, not subtractive.

Yes but it also varies with distance. I was describing what would be
seen if the beam was intercepted and measured along the way.

As it leaves earth the potential from the earth increases and the (much
smaller) potential from the moon decreases, total potential increases.
Once near enough to the moon, its potential's effect is larger than that
of the earth and the total decreases. The reverse happens when the beam
returns to earth. Total effect: 0.

On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 7:43:20 PM UTC-3, Volney wrote:
> On 3/19/2023 1:05 PM, Dono. wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 9:15:13 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> >> On 3/16/2023 9:26 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> >>> Is that true that the 550 nm laser beam is first redshifted and then blueshifted [to the moon and back]?
> >>
> >> What happens is the light gets redshifted when leaving the earth, then
> >> (slightly) blueshifted once the moon's gravity potential becomes
> >> dominant,
> >
> > Gravitational potentials are additive, not subtractive.
> Yes but it also varies with distance. I was describing what would be
> seen if the beam was intercepted and measured along the way.
>
> As it leaves earth the potential from the earth increases and the (much
> smaller) potential from the moon decreases, total potential increases.
> Once near enough to the moon, its potential's effect is larger than that
> of the earth and the total decreases. The reverse happens when the beam
> returns to earth. Total effect: 0.

You forgot Doppler effects.

Volney wrote:

> On 3/19/2023 1:05 PM, Dono. wrote:
>> Gravitational potentials are additive, not subtractive.
>
> Yes but it also varies with distance. I was describing what would be
> seen if the beam was intercepted and measured along the way

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On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 3:43:20 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> On 3/19/2023 1:05 PM, Dono. wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 9:15:13 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> >> On 3/16/2023 9:26 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> >>> Is that true that the 550 nm laser beam is first redshifted and then blueshifted [to the moon and back]?
> >>
> >> What happens is the light gets redshifted when leaving the earth, then
> >> (slightly) blueshifted once the moon's gravity potential becomes
> >> dominant,
> >
> > Gravitational potentials are additive, not subtractive.
> Yes but it also varies with distance. I was describing what would be
> seen if the beam was intercepted and measured along the way.
>
> As it leaves earth the potential from the earth increases and the (much
> smaller) potential from the moon decreases, total potential increases.
> Once near enough to the moon, its potential's effect is larger than that
> of the earth and the total decreases.
You are correct, the potential has an extremum in a point very close to the Moon (because the mass of the Earth is much larger than the mass of the Moon), So, the AMOUNT of redshifting keeps decreasing up to the extremum point after which is starts increasing again. The net effect is a redshift throughout.

>The reverse happens when the beam returns to earth. Total effect: 0.

Correct, the effect is an exact inverse of the effect in the path from Earth to the Moon.

On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 3:51:43 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 7:43:20 PM UTC-3, Volney wrote:
> > On 3/19/2023 1:05 PM, Dono. wrote:
> > > On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 9:15:13 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> > >> On 3/16/2023 9:26 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > >>> Is that true that the 550 nm laser beam is first redshifted and then blueshifted [to the moon and back]?
> > >>
> > >> What happens is the light gets redshifted when leaving the earth, then
> > >> (slightly) blueshifted once the moon's gravity potential becomes
> > >> dominant,
> > >
> > > Gravitational potentials are additive, not subtractive.
> > Yes but it also varies with distance. I was describing what would be
> > seen if the beam was intercepted and measured along the way.
> >
> > As it leaves earth the potential from the earth increases and the (much
> > smaller) potential from the moon decreases, total potential increases.
> > Once near enough to the moon, its potential's effect is larger than that
> > of the earth and the total decreases. The reverse happens when the beam
> > returns to earth. Total effect: 0.
> You forgot Doppler effects.

There aren't any.

On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 8:33:01 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote:
> On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 3:51:43 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 7:43:20 PM UTC-3, Volney wrote:
> > > On 3/19/2023 1:05 PM, Dono. wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 9:15:13 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> > > >> On 3/16/2023 9:26 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > >>> Is that true that the 550 nm laser beam is first redshifted and then blueshifted [to the moon and back]?
> > > >>
> > > >> What happens is the light gets redshifted when leaving the earth, then
> > > >> (slightly) blueshifted once the moon's gravity potential becomes
> > > >> dominant,
> > > >
> > > > Gravitational potentials are additive, not subtractive.
> > > Yes but it also varies with distance. I was describing what would be
> > > seen if the beam was intercepted and measured along the way.
> > >
> > > As it leaves earth the potential from the earth increases and the (much
> > > smaller) potential from the moon decreases, total potential increases..
> > > Once near enough to the moon, its potential's effect is larger than that
> > > of the earth and the total decreases. The reverse happens when the beam
> > > returns to earth. Total effect: 0.
> > You forgot Doppler effects.
> There aren't any.

Imbecile, you didn't see the redshift effect. What a cretin.

On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:05:54 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 8:33:01 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote:
> > On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 3:51:43 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 7:43:20 PM UTC-3, Volney wrote:
> > > > On 3/19/2023 1:05 PM, Dono. wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 9:15:13 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> > > > >> On 3/16/2023 9:26 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > >>> Is that true that the 550 nm laser beam is first redshifted and then blueshifted [to the moon and back]?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> What happens is the light gets redshifted when leaving the earth, then
> > > > >> (slightly) blueshifted once the moon's gravity potential becomes
> > > > >> dominant,
> > > > >
> > > > > Gravitational potentials are additive, not subtractive.
> > > > Yes but it also varies with distance. I was describing what would be
> > > > seen if the beam was intercepted and measured along the way.
> > > >
> > > > As it leaves earth the potential from the earth increases and the (much
> > > > smaller) potential from the moon decreases, total potential increases.
> > > > Once near enough to the moon, its potential's effect is larger than that
> > > > of the earth and the total decreases. The reverse happens when the beam
> > > > returns to earth. Total effect: 0.
> > > You forgot Doppler effects.
> > There aren't any.
> I am an Imbecile

You sure are, gravitational redshifft is not a Doppler effect.

On Monday, 20 March 2023 at 23:43:20 UTC+1, Volney wrote:
> On 3/19/2023 1:05 PM, Dono. wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 9:15:13 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> >> On 3/16/2023 9:26 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> >>> Is that true that the 550 nm laser beam is first redshifted and then blueshifted [to the moon and back]?
> >>
> >> What happens is the light gets redshifted when leaving the earth, then
> >> (slightly) blueshifted once the moon's gravity potential becomes
> >> dominant,
> >
> > Gravitational potentials are additive, not subtractive.
> Yes but it also varies with distance. I was describing what would be

And do you still believe that 9 192 631 770 ISO idiocy
is some "Newton mode"? You're such an amazing idiot,
stupid Mike, even considering the standards of your
moronic religion.