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Andrew Huff, who worked for a New York-based nonprofit that studied viruses, said COVID leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China two-plus years ago and blamed authorities for the “biggest US intelligence failure since 9/11,” Britain’s the Sun reported Saturday.

https://nypost.com/2022/12/03/scientist-who-worked-at-wuhan-lab-says-covid-man-made-virus/

What he really wants to do is sell his book- to airheads. He's thrown every facet of conspiracy theory including the kitchen sink into it.

https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Truth-about-Wuhan/Andrew-G-Huff/9781510773882

Skyhorse publishing is a cesspool publisher specializing in fringe sensationalism.

The reality is Andrew Huff was a low level bit-head employee at EcoHealth Alliance:

EcoHealth Alliance Statement Regarding Book by Andrew Huff

https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/2022/12/ecohealth-alliance-statement-regarding-book-by-andrew-huff

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On Monday, 5 December 2022 at 23:36:54 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> Andrew Huff, who worked for a New York-based nonprofit that studied viruses, said COVID leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China two-plus years ago and blamed authorities for the “biggest US intelligence failure since 9/11,” Britain’s the Sun reported Saturday.
>
> https://nypost.com/2022/12/03/scientist-who-worked-at-wuhan-lab-says-covid-man-made-virus/
>
> What he really wants to do is sell his book- to airheads. He's thrown every facet of conspiracy theory including the kitchen sink into it.
>
> https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Truth-about-Wuhan/Andrew-G-Huff/9781510773882
>
> Skyhorse publishing is a cesspool publisher specializing in fringe sensationalism.
>
> The reality is Andrew Huff was a low level bit-head employee at EcoHealth Alliance:
>
> EcoHealth Alliance Statement Regarding Book by Andrew Huff
>
> https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/2022/12/ecohealth-alliance-statement-regarding-book-by-andrew-huff
#dailyfakebyfred

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 by: Ricky - Mon, 5 Dec 2022 23:42 UTC

On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 5:36:54 PM UTC-5, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> Andrew Huff, who worked for a New York-based nonprofit that studied viruses, said COVID leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China two-plus years ago and blamed authorities for the “biggest US intelligence failure since 9/11,” Britain’s the Sun reported Saturday.
>
> https://nypost.com/2022/12/03/scientist-who-worked-at-wuhan-lab-says-covid-man-made-virus/
>
> What he really wants to do is sell his book- to airheads. He's thrown every facet of conspiracy theory including the kitchen sink into it.
>
> https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Truth-about-Wuhan/Andrew-G-Huff/9781510773882
>
> Skyhorse publishing is a cesspool publisher specializing in fringe sensationalism.
>
> The reality is Andrew Huff was a low level bit-head employee at EcoHealth Alliance:

So, why are you sharing it with us?

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On Mon, 5 Dec 2022 14:36:49 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>Andrew Huff, who worked for a New York-based nonprofit that studied viruses, said COVID leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China two-plus years ago and blamed authorities for the “biggest US intelligence failure since 9/11,” Britain’s the Sun reported Saturday.
>
>https://nypost.com/2022/12/03/scientist-who-worked-at-wuhan-lab-says-covid-man-made-virus/
>
>What he really wants to do is sell his book- to airheads. He's thrown every facet of conspiracy theory including the kitchen sink into it.

Have you read the book?

>
>https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Truth-about-Wuhan/Andrew-G-Huff/9781510773882
>
>Skyhorse publishing is a cesspool publisher specializing in fringe sensationalism.
>
>The reality is Andrew Huff was a low level bit-head employee at EcoHealth Alliance:
>
>EcoHealth Alliance Statement Regarding Book by Andrew Huff
>
>https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/2022/12/ecohealth-alliance-statement-regarding-book-by-andrew-huff

It was extradordinarily improbable that the virus originated from a
wet market withing walking distance of a lab doing gain-of-function
research on bat viruses.

Insisting that the institute could not be the source of covid is also
extraordinary.

Lab accidents with viruses aren't conspiracy theories. They happen.

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Tue, 6 Dec 2022 01:17 UTC

On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 6:54:51 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Dec 2022 14:36:49 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Andrew Huff, who worked for a New York-based nonprofit that studied viruses, said COVID leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China two-plus years ago and blamed authorities for the “biggest US intelligence failure since 9/11,” Britain’s the Sun reported Saturday.
> >
> >https://nypost.com/2022/12/03/scientist-who-worked-at-wuhan-lab-says-covid-man-made-virus/
> >
> >What he really wants to do is sell his book- to airheads. He's thrown every facet of conspiracy theory including the kitchen sink into it.
> Have you read the book?

According to EcoHealth Alliance "Mr. Huff was employed by the EcoHealth Alliance from 2014 to 2016." That sort of dates him to a full four years before the outbreak.

Then "Given that he never worked at or with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, his assertions along these lines cannot be trusted." IOW he could not possibly know what he's talking about

Collins, Director of NIH: “NIH wants to set the record straight on NIH-supported research to understand naturally occurring bat coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, funded through a subaward from NIH grantee EcoHealth Alliance. Analysis of published genomic data and other documents from the grantee demonstrate that the naturally occurring bat coronaviruses studied under the NIH grant are genetically far distant from SARS-CoV-2 and could not possibly have caused the COVID-19 pandemic. Any claims to the contrary are demonstrably false."

Here's the science:

https://www.niaid.nih.gov/diseases-conditions/coronavirus-bat-research

That's on the order of well-established scientific fact.

> >
> >https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Truth-about-Wuhan/Andrew-G-Huff/9781510773882
> >
> >Skyhorse publishing is a cesspool publisher specializing in fringe sensationalism.
> >
> >The reality is Andrew Huff was a low level bit-head employee at EcoHealth Alliance:
> >
> >EcoHealth Alliance Statement Regarding Book by Andrew Huff
> >
> >https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/2022/12/ecohealth-alliance-statement-regarding-book-by-andrew-huff
> It was extradordinarily improbable that the virus originated from a
> wet market withing walking distance of a lab doing gain-of-function
> research on bat viruses.

Not really. And the reason the investigators zoomed in on the animal market is because the first SARS-CoV occurring in 2003, again in China, originated in an animal market. Since 2003 a bunch of investigational studies have been done on everything. One interesting study was testing for SARS-CoV antibodies in Chinese animal traders in Guangdong Province. There they found a full 19% had been exposed to SARS virus, versus a background level of about 1% in the general population. That was SARS as in the first killer virus. That should give you a warm feeling that animals are the source of transmission. The people in China don't practice good hygiene when it comes to handling animals and preparing animals for food, they're all loaded with disease ( the people ). The animal host for SARS-CoV-2 they're looking for is themselves.
>
> Insisting that the institute could not be the source of covid is also
> extraordinary.
>
> Lab accidents with viruses aren't conspiracy theories. They happen.

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 by: whit3rd - Tue, 6 Dec 2022 01:18 UTC

On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 3:54:51 PM UTC-8, John Larkin wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Dec 2022 14:36:49 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Andrew Huff, who worked for a New York-based nonprofit that studied viruses, said COVID leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China two-plus years ago and blamed authorities for the “biggest US intelligence failure since 9/11,” Britain’s the Sun reported Saturday.
> >
> >https://nypost.com/2022/12/03/scientist-who-worked-at-wuhan-lab-says-covid-man-made-virus/
> >
> >What he really wants to do is sell his book- to airheads. He's thrown every facet of conspiracy theory including the kitchen sink into it.
> Have you read the book?

And John Larkin also wants to sell the book?

> It was extradordinarily improbable that the virus originated from a
> wet market withing walking distance of a lab doing gain-of-function
> research on bat viruses.

Nah; I live in a big city, and there's a LOT of activity that's within walking
distance of lots of other activity. That's what a city IS, a lot of enterprises
crowded together

> Lab accidents with viruses aren't conspiracy theories. They happen.

That's a bit of cherry-picking; the 'lab accident' scenario isn't what the book
was pushing, but it also involves Wuhan like several other alternative theories... all of
which rely on the 'conspiracy' theme to reject evidence and testimony that contradicts 'em.

The timeline for the human virus coming out of the lab is wrong; it was introduced to labs
AFTER it was loose in the population. A similar bat virus was in the lab BEFORE the
human disease, but lab glassware doesn't cough in your face, it is extremely unlikely to
sequentially (1) mutate in vitro, (2) evade normal lab containment undetected, (3) infect personnel,
(4) mutate back in vitro to the harmless bat variant.

The two-word 'lab accident' suggestion doesn't have credibility. IMHO, it never did.

The market and wild-animal source hypothesis doesn't have any conflict against evidence
and testimony. There's some missing links (like the old anti-Darwin arguments
pushed into public discourse) but that's normal.

Science normally says "we need more research" about missing links. I'm with science.

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Tue, 6 Dec 2022 01:32 UTC

On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 6:54:51 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:

> Have you read the book?

I don't plan to give it the time of day.

Here's a story on Skyhorse publishing:
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/books/story/2020-10-08/woody-allens-publisher-cant-be-canceled

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 by: John Larkin - Tue, 6 Dec 2022 03:31 UTC

On Mon, 5 Dec 2022 17:32:41 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
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>On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 6:54:51 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
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>> Have you read the book?
>
>I don't plan to give it the time of day.

I thought not.

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