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 by: Fred Bloggs - Mon, 19 Dec 2022 19:19 UTC

This is a pretty good summary of how he operates;

Here's the Musk playbook: Enter a field with very little competition. Claim that your new company will solve a massive, global problem or achieve a seemingly impossible goal. Raise money from a fervent group of true believers and keep them on the hook with flashy, half-baked product ideas. Suck up billions from the government. Underpay, undervalue, and overwork your employees. Repeat.

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-business-playbook-boss-visionary-jerk-spacex-tesla-twitter-2022-12

This nightmare:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Tesla,_Inc.

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 by: Ed Lee - Mon, 19 Dec 2022 19:30 UTC

On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:19:55 AM UTC-8, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> This is a pretty good summary of how he operates;
>
> Here's the Musk playbook: Enter a field with very little competition. Claim that your new company will solve a massive, global problem or achieve a seemingly impossible goal. Raise money from a fervent group of true believers and keep them on the hook with flashy, half-baked product ideas. Suck up billions from the government. Underpay, undervalue, and overwork your employees. Repeat.
>
> https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-business-playbook-boss-visionary-jerk-spacex-tesla-twitter-2022-12
>
> This nightmare:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Tesla,_Inc.

And using public company resources to run his own private company.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/19/sen-warren-warns-tesla-board-about-musk-conflicts-of-interest-with-twitter.html

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 by: a a - Mon, 19 Dec 2022 19:32 UTC

On Monday, 19 December 2022 at 20:19:55 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> This is a pretty good summary of how he operates;
>
> Here's the Musk playbook: Enter a field with very little competition. Claim that your new company will solve a massive, global problem or achieve a seemingly impossible goal. Raise money from a fervent group of true believers and keep them on the hook with flashy, half-baked product ideas. Suck up billions from the government. Underpay, undervalue, and overwork your employees. Repeat.
>
> https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-business-playbook-boss-visionary-jerk-spacex-tesla-twitter-2022-12
>
> This nightmare:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Tesla,_Inc.
Elon is Innovator like me, Global Innovator.

Job of the innovator is to make your ideas a reality.
That's true about every innovator.

What matters is how to suck up cash from the government
since true believers don't have sacks full of cash.

Money should be farmed or grown on the trees

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On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 2:32:16 PM UTC-5, a a wrote:
> On Monday, 19 December 2022 at 20:19:55 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > This is a pretty good summary of how he operates;
> >
> > Here's the Musk playbook: Enter a field with very little competition. Claim that your new company will solve a massive, global problem or achieve a seemingly impossible goal. Raise money from a fervent group of true believers and keep them on the hook with flashy, half-baked product ideas. Suck up billions from the government. Underpay, undervalue, and overwork your employees. Repeat.
> >
> > https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-business-playbook-boss-visionary-jerk-spacex-tesla-twitter-2022-12
> >
> > This nightmare:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Tesla,_Inc.
> Elon is Innovator like me, Global Innovator.
>
> Job of the innovator is to make your ideas a reality.
> That's true about every innovator.
>
> What matters is how to suck up cash from the government
> since true believers don't have sacks full of cash.
>
> Money should be farmed or grown on the trees

LOL- good.

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Mon, 19 Dec 2022 19:42 UTC

On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 2:30:41 PM UTC-5, Ed Lee wrote:
> On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:19:55 AM UTC-8, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > This is a pretty good summary of how he operates;
> >
> > Here's the Musk playbook: Enter a field with very little competition. Claim that your new company will solve a massive, global problem or achieve a seemingly impossible goal. Raise money from a fervent group of true believers and keep them on the hook with flashy, half-baked product ideas. Suck up billions from the government. Underpay, undervalue, and overwork your employees. Repeat.
> >
> > https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-business-playbook-boss-visionary-jerk-spacex-tesla-twitter-2022-12
> >
> > This nightmare:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Tesla,_Inc.
> And using public company resources to run his own private company.
>
> https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/19/sen-warren-warns-tesla-board-about-musk-conflicts-of-interest-with-twitter.html

Right- it's a breach of fiduciary responsibility. That's not just a high sounding phrase, it's something very real. The law can remove quite a lot of his capability to do any more business on the basis of that.

See Corporations and fiduciary duties:

https://www.upcounsel.com/fiduciary-responsibility

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 by: Ed Lee - Mon, 19 Dec 2022 19:45 UTC

On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:35:48 AM UTC-8, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 2:32:16 PM UTC-5, a a wrote:
> > On Monday, 19 December 2022 at 20:19:55 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > > This is a pretty good summary of how he operates;
> > >
> > > Here's the Musk playbook: Enter a field with very little competition. Claim that your new company will solve a massive, global problem or achieve a seemingly impossible goal. Raise money from a fervent group of true believers and keep them on the hook with flashy, half-baked product ideas. Suck up billions from the government. Underpay, undervalue, and overwork your employees. Repeat.
> > >
> > > https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-business-playbook-boss-visionary-jerk-spacex-tesla-twitter-2022-12
> > >
> > > This nightmare:
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Tesla,_Inc.
> > Elon is Innovator like me, Global Innovator.
> >
> > Job of the innovator is to make your ideas a reality.
> > That's true about every innovator.
> >
> > What matters is how to suck up cash from the government
> > since true believers don't have sacks full of cash.
> >
> > Money should be farmed or grown on the trees
> LOL- good.

Yes, innovation. Can we patent process of making money against customer's will? I.e. Spamming.

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 by: John Larkin - Tue, 20 Dec 2022 00:46 UTC

On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 11:19:51 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>This is a pretty good summary of how he operates;
>
>Here's the Musk playbook: Enter a field with very little competition. Claim that your new company will solve a massive, global problem or achieve a seemingly impossible goal. Raise money from a fervent group of true believers and keep them on the hook with flashy, half-baked product ideas. Suck up billions from the government. Underpay, undervalue, and overwork your employees. Repeat.
>
>https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-business-playbook-boss-visionary-jerk-spacex-tesla-twitter-2022-12
>
>This nightmare:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Tesla,_Inc.

Please tell us more about Britney Spears and Harry & Meghan.

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Subject: Re: Elon's stale playbook
From: bloggs.f...@gmail.com (Fred Bloggs)
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 by: Fred Bloggs - Tue, 20 Dec 2022 01:32 UTC

On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 7:46:33 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 11:19:51 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >This is a pretty good summary of how he operates;
> >
> >Here's the Musk playbook: Enter a field with very little competition. Claim that your new company will solve a massive, global problem or achieve a seemingly impossible goal. Raise money from a fervent group of true believers and keep them on the hook with flashy, half-baked product ideas. Suck up billions from the government. Underpay, undervalue, and overwork your employees. Repeat.
> >
> >https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-business-playbook-boss-visionary-jerk-spacex-tesla-twitter-2022-12
> >
> >This nightmare:
> >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Tesla,_Inc.
> Please tell us more about Britney Spears and Harry & Meghan.

What about them? I don't follow them.

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