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 by: a a - Sun, 25 Dec 2022 13:32 UTC

Proposed European Union law that would if passed make batteries in appliances “designed so that consumers can easily remove and replace them themselves“.
https://hackaday.com/2022/12/24/non-replaceable-battery-not-if-this-proposed-eu-law-passes/

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Sun, 25 Dec 2022 15:46 UTC

On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 8:32:30 AM UTC-5, a a wrote:
> Proposed European Union law that would if passed make batteries in appliances “designed so that consumers can easily remove and replace them themselves“.
>
> https://hackaday.com/2022/12/24/non-replaceable-battery-not-if-this-proposed-eu-law-passes/

Good! Those non-replaceable battery products are just obselescense by design. A ripoff.

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 by: Ed Lee - Sun, 25 Dec 2022 16:33 UTC

On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 7:46:33 AM UTC-8, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 8:32:30 AM UTC-5, a a wrote:
> > Proposed European Union law that would if passed make batteries in appliances “designed so that consumers can easily remove and replace them themselves“.
> >
> > https://hackaday.com/2022/12/24/non-replaceable-battery-not-if-this-proposed-eu-law-passes/
> Good! Those non-replaceable battery products are just obselescense by design. A ripoff.

Yes, and it should include EVs.

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 by: corvid - Sun, 25 Dec 2022 22:11 UTC

On 12/25/22 05:32, a a wrote:
> Proposed European Union law that would if passed make batteries in
> appliances “designed so that consumers can easily remove and replace
> them themselves“.
>
> https://hackaday.com/2022/12/24/non-replaceable-battery-not-if-this-proposed-eu-law-passes

TI lawyers think it's risky.

https://education.ti.com/en/customer-support/knowledge-base/scientific-elem-calculators/general-information/17009

About replacing the cell battery on a TI-1795 SV
For safety purposes and to prevent ingestion, the button-cell batteries
in school, student-owned calculators, as well basic/elementary
calculators without battery doors are not designed to be replaced.

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 by: a a - Sun, 25 Dec 2022 22:29 UTC

On Sunday, 25 December 2022 at 23:11:39 UTC+1, corvid wrote:
> On 12/25/22 05:32, a a wrote:
> > Proposed European Union law that would if passed make batteries in
> > appliances “designed so that consumers can easily remove and replace
> > them themselves“.
> >
> > https://hackaday.com/2022/12/24/non-replaceable-battery-not-if-this-proposed-eu-law-passes
> TI lawyers think it's risky.
>
> https://education.ti.com/en/customer-support/knowledge-base/scientific-elem-calculators/general-information/17009
>
> About replacing the cell battery on a TI-1795 SV
> For safety purposes and to prevent ingestion, the button-cell batteries
> in school, student-owned calculators, as well basic/elementary
> calculators without battery doors are not designed to be replaced.
monopoly rulez

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 by: Cydrome Leader - Mon, 26 Dec 2022 01:39 UTC

corvid <bl@ckbi.rds> wrote:
> On 12/25/22 05:32, a a wrote:
>> Proposed European Union law that would if passed make batteries in
>> appliances ???designed so that consumers can easily remove and replace
>> them themselves???.
>>
>> https://hackaday.com/2022/12/24/non-replaceable-battery-not-if-this-proposed-eu-law-passes
>
> TI lawyers think it's risky.
>
> https://education.ti.com/en/customer-support/knowledge-base/scientific-elem-calculators/general-information/17009
>
> About replacing the cell battery on a TI-1795 SV
> For safety purposes and to prevent ingestion, the button-cell batteries
> in school, student-owned calculators, as well basic/elementary
> calculators without battery doors are not designed to be replaced.

You forgot to copy the text just below that starting with

To replace the battery:
1) Using a small Phillips screwdriver, remove the screws that are on the back of the unit.
2) Carefully pry apart the back case and the front case. Be careful not to damage any internal parts.
3) Remove the lithium battery carefully and replace it with a new one.
4) After the lithium battery has been replaced, attach the back case of the unit on to the front case
and replace the screws.
5) Turn the unit on. The calculator should now function properly.

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 by: a a - Mon, 26 Dec 2022 01:48 UTC

On Monday, 26 December 2022 at 02:39:52 UTC+1, Cydrome Leader wrote:
> corvid <b...@ckbi.rds> wrote:
> > On 12/25/22 05:32, a a wrote:
> >> Proposed European Union law that would if passed make batteries in
> >> appliances ???designed so that consumers can easily remove and replace
> >> them themselves???.
> >>
> >> https://hackaday.com/2022/12/24/non-replaceable-battery-not-if-this-proposed-eu-law-passes
> >
> > TI lawyers think it's risky.
> >
> > https://education.ti.com/en/customer-support/knowledge-base/scientific-elem-calculators/general-information/17009
> >
> > About replacing the cell battery on a TI-1795 SV
> > For safety purposes and to prevent ingestion, the button-cell batteries
> > in school, student-owned calculators, as well basic/elementary
> > calculators without battery doors are not designed to be replaced.
> You forgot to copy the text just below that starting with
>
> To replace the battery:
> 1) Using a small Phillips screwdriver, remove the screws that are on the back of the unit.
> 2) Carefully pry apart the back case and the front case. Be careful not to damage any internal parts.
> 3) Remove the lithium battery carefully and replace it with a new one.
> 4) After the lithium battery has been replaced, attach the back case of the unit on to the front case
> and replace the screws.
> 5) Turn the unit on. The calculator should now function properly.
I through away $5 calculators with internal battery to be replaced to the trash

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 by: Cydrome Leader - Mon, 26 Dec 2022 02:46 UTC

a a <manta103g@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, 26 December 2022 at 02:39:52 UTC+1, Cydrome Leader wrote:
>> corvid <b...@ckbi.rds> wrote:
>> > On 12/25/22 05:32, a a wrote:
>> >> Proposed European Union law that would if passed make batteries in
>> >> appliances ???designed so that consumers can easily remove and replace
>> >> them themselves???.
>> >>
>> >> https://hackaday.com/2022/12/24/non-replaceable-battery-not-if-this-proposed-eu-law-passes
>> >
>> > TI lawyers think it's risky.
>> >
>> > https://education.ti.com/en/customer-support/knowledge-base/scientific-elem-calculators/general-information/17009
>> >
>> > About replacing the cell battery on a TI-1795 SV
>> > For safety purposes and to prevent ingestion, the button-cell batteries
>> > in school, student-owned calculators, as well basic/elementary
>> > calculators without battery doors are not designed to be replaced.
>> You forgot to copy the text just below that starting with
>>
>> To replace the battery:
>> 1) Using a small Phillips screwdriver, remove the screws that are on the back of the unit.
>> 2) Carefully pry apart the back case and the front case. Be careful not to damage any internal parts.
>> 3) Remove the lithium battery carefully and replace it with a new one.
>> 4) After the lithium battery has been replaced, attach the back case of the unit on to the front case
>> and replace the screws.
>> 5) Turn the unit on. The calculator should now function properly.
> I through away $5 calculators with internal battery to be replaced to the trash

Cool story.

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Subject: Re: Proposed European Union law that would if passed make batteries
in appliances ???designed so that consumers can easily remove and replace
them themselves???.
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2022 19:50:27 -0800
Organization: a Murder of Crows
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 by: corvid - Mon, 26 Dec 2022 03:50 UTC

On 12/25/22 17:39, Cydrome Leader wrote:
> corvid <bl@ckbi.rds> wrote:
>> On 12/25/22 05:32, a a wrote:
>>> Proposed European Union law that would if passed make batteries
>>> in appliances ???designed so that consumers can easily remove
>>> and replace them themselves???.
>>>
>>> https://hackaday.com/2022/12/24/non-replaceable-battery-not-if-this-proposed-eu-law-passes
>>>
>> TI lawyers think it's risky.
>> https://education.ti.com/en/customer-support/knowledge-base/scientific-elem-calculators/general-information/17009
>>
>> About replacing the cell battery on a TI-1795 SV
>> For safety purposes and to prevent ingestion, the button-cell
>> batteries in school, student-owned calculators, as well
>> basic/elementary calculators without battery doors are not
>> designed to be replaced.
>
> You forgot to copy the text just below that starting with

I decided not to muddy it up, because making it difficult was deliberate.

aa's post is more about politics than DIY tricks and tips.

I gave my Mom a TI-1795 SV for Christmas. It does have a battery door,
which I also forgot to tell you.

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