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 by: geoff - Wed, 2 Feb 2022 21:12 UTC

On 3/02/2022 1:56 am, Paul Carmichael wrote:
> El Wed, 02 Feb 2022 04:33:54 -0800, sobriquet escribió:
>
>> Maybe just a matter of more practice then, judging from other pictures
>> taken with that lens.
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/michelevillafranca/21159246390/
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/140249051@N03/49935834148/
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/michelevillafranca/23542785022/
>
> Yup.
>
> Definitely a capable lens. Crap operator.
>
> Hence the title of the post.
>
> FWIW I wasn't trying to get the whole thing in focus - just its head and
> scary arms. I was 100% convinced that I had the eyes in perfect focus.
> Maybe it's my age. Not seeing as well as I might like.
>
>

Lens motorised or not, you camera presumably has an in-focus indicator
of some sort.

Circumstance will surely be covered in the manual ....

geoff

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 by: Ken Hart - Wed, 2 Feb 2022 21:26 UTC

On 2/2/22 7:56 AM, Paul Carmichael wrote:
> El Wed, 02 Feb 2022 04:33:54 -0800, sobriquet escribió:
>
>> Maybe just a matter of more practice then, judging from other pictures
>> taken with that lens.
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/michelevillafranca/21159246390/
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/140249051@N03/49935834148/
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/michelevillafranca/23542785022/
>
> Yup.
>
> Definitely a capable lens. Crap operator.
>
> Hence the title of the post.
>
> FWIW I wasn't trying to get the whole thing in focus - just its head and
> scary arms. I was 100% convinced that I had the eyes in perfect focus.
> Maybe it's my age. Not seeing as well as I might like.
>
>
If I were to attempt a photo like that, I would first grab my reading
glasses.
Age related "Short Arm Syndrome".

--
Ken Hart
kwhart1@centurylink.net

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 by: Paul Carmichael - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 08:51 UTC

El Thu, 03 Feb 2022 10:12:29 +1300, geoff escribió:

> On 3/02/2022 1:56 am, Paul Carmichael wrote:
>> El Wed, 02 Feb 2022 04:33:54 -0800, sobriquet escribió:
>>
>>> Maybe just a matter of more practice then, judging from other pictures
>>> taken with that lens.
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/michelevillafranca/21159246390/
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/140249051@N03/49935834148/
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/michelevillafranca/23542785022/
>>
>> Yup.
>>
>> Definitely a capable lens. Crap operator.
>>
>> Hence the title of the post.
>>
>> FWIW I wasn't trying to get the whole thing in focus - just its head
>> and scary arms. I was 100% convinced that I had the eyes in perfect
>> focus. Maybe it's my age. Not seeing as well as I might like.
>>
>>
>>
> Lens motorised or not, you camera presumably has an in-focus indicator
> of some sort.

The lens has a chip that I glued in. I certainly wouldn't rely on it.


> Circumstance will surely be covered in the manual ....

Or not. I really cannot see what help "the manual" could possibly be (not
that I even have a manual).

--
Paul.

https://paulc.es/elpatio

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 by: Paul Carmichael - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 08:53 UTC

El Wed, 02 Feb 2022 16:26:37 -0500, Ken Hart escribió:

> On 2/2/22 7:56 AM, Paul Carmichael wrote:
>> El Wed, 02 Feb 2022 04:33:54 -0800, sobriquet escribió:
>>
>>> Maybe just a matter of more practice then, judging from other pictures
>>> taken with that lens.
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/michelevillafranca/21159246390/
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/140249051@N03/49935834148/
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/michelevillafranca/23542785022/
>>
>> Yup.
>>
>> Definitely a capable lens. Crap operator.
>>
>> Hence the title of the post.
>>
>> FWIW I wasn't trying to get the whole thing in focus - just its head
>> and scary arms. I was 100% convinced that I had the eyes in perfect
>> focus. Maybe it's my age. Not seeing as well as I might like.
>>
>>
> If I were to attempt a photo like that, I would first grab my reading
> glasses.
> Age related "Short Arm Syndrome".

It's a bastard, I can tell you. I can barely see the camera close up, but
I can spot a wasp at 30 paces. I certainly can't use the camera with
glasses on. So I am constantly glasses on - glasses off.

--
Paul.

https://paulc.es/elpatio

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 by: Paul Carmichael - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 08:54 UTC

El Wed, 02 Feb 2022 13:44:23 -0600, Bill W escribió:

> On Feb 2, 2022, Paul Carmichael wrote (in
> article<pan$8de88$854240$cb6155c5$efd7cc19@gmail.com>):
>
>> El Wed, 02 Feb 2022 12:51:09 -0600, Bill W escribió:
>>
>> > On Feb 2, 2022, Paul Carmichael wrote (in
>> > article<pan$52fe1$98700967$2400e4d2$d7c79125@gmail.com>):
>> >
>> > > El Wed, 02 Feb 2022 11:13:12 -0600, Bill W escribió:
>> > >
>> > > > On Feb 2, 2022, Paul Carmichael wrote (in
>> > > > article<pan$2aeb4$92e0f3ae$6b1b4368$1709f0d@gmail.com>):
>> > > >
>> > > > > El Wed, 02 Feb 2022 09:04:39 -0600, Bill W escribió:
>> > > > > > I see you mentioned the lens is MF. But doesn’t the focus
>> > > > > > confirmation work? That can work better than your eyes, along
>> > > > > > with telling you exactly where it’s focusing. I believe there
>> > > > > > are also settings regarding how small the spot focus area is,
>> > > > > > which might affect the focus confirmation.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > It does have an aftermarket chip glued in there and does indeed
>> > > > > beep when the lens is open enough.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I think this has more to do with unsteady hands and the fact
>> > > > > that I was holding the camera at arm's length and actually
>> > > > > moving the camera to focus rather than the focus ring.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I think I'm just not very good at macro work. Not steady
>> > > > > enough.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Praps I'll try upping the shutter speed and iso.
>> > > >
>> > > > How about live view with focus peaking enabled? That also uses
>> > > > contrast detect which I believe is more accurate, but slower.
>> > >
>> > > Almost certainly would produce better results, but this was an
>> > > apportunistic shoot on my patio and I had to get in and out before
>> > > the cats noticed.
>> > >
>> > > My favourite models are goats:
>> > >
>> > > https://flickr.com/photos/wibbleypants/7321450498/in/
>> > > album-72157630014030874/
>> > >
>> > > (Samyang)
>> >
>> > As someone else mentioned, you might want to look into the diopter
>> > adjustment on your camera. Do you have AF lenses for that camera?
>>
>> I've adjusted the thing by the eyepiece. I do have one AF lens - a
>> Sigma that everyone says is crap.
>>
>> It's what I took these with:
>>
>> https://flickr.com/photos/wibbleypants/albums/72157688436887885
>
> I asked about the AF lens so that you could check what focus you see
> through the viewfinder compared to what the photos look like after
> taken. Or just manually focus that lens, and then turn AF back on and
> see if it changes.

I believe the photos I've taken with the AF lens are pretty much OK. So
it's me.

--
Paul.

https://paulc.es/elpatio

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 by: geoff - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 08:56 UTC

On 3/02/2022 9:51 pm, Paul Carmichael wrote:
> El Thu, 03 Feb 2022 10:12:29 +1300, geoff escribió:
>
>> On 3/02/2022 1:56 am, Paul Carmichael wrote:
>>> El Wed, 02 Feb 2022 04:33:54 -0800, sobriquet escribió:
>>>
>>>> Maybe just a matter of more practice then, judging from other pictures
>>>> taken with that lens.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/michelevillafranca/21159246390/
>>>>
>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/140249051@N03/49935834148/
>>>>
>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/michelevillafranca/23542785022/
>>>
>>> Yup.
>>>
>>> Definitely a capable lens. Crap operator.
>>>
>>> Hence the title of the post.
>>>
>>> FWIW I wasn't trying to get the whole thing in focus - just its head
>>> and scary arms. I was 100% convinced that I had the eyes in perfect
>>> focus. Maybe it's my age. Not seeing as well as I might like.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Lens motorised or not, you camera presumably has an in-focus indicator
>> of some sort.
>
> The lens has a chip that I glued in. I certainly wouldn't rely on it.
>
>
>> Circumstance will surely be covered in the manual ....
>
> Or not. I really cannot see what help "the manual" could possibly be (not
> that I even have a manual).
>
>

It will tell you how to use the 'in-focus' indicator.

https://lmgtfy.app/?q=EOS+6D+user+manual&iie=1

geoff

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 by: Paul Carmichael - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 12:46 UTC

El Thu, 03 Feb 2022 21:56:15 +1300, geoff escribió:

> It will tell you how to use the 'in-focus' indicator.
>
> https://lmgtfy.app/?q=EOS+6D+user+manual&iie=1

Yes, very helpful, thankyou.

But I still don't need a manual.

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 by: geoff - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 21:52 UTC

On 4/02/2022 1:46 am, Paul Carmichael wrote:
> El Thu, 03 Feb 2022 21:56:15 +1300, geoff escribió:
>
>> It will tell you how to use the 'in-focus' indicator.
>>
>> https://lmgtfy.app/?q=EOS+6D+user+manual&iie=1
>
>
> Yes, very helpful, thankyou.
>
> But I still don't need a manual.
>

So you are rueing that you are unable to focus optimally, you don't know
how to get your camera to assist in this, and you apparently don't
need/want the manual which will show you how to get your camera to
assist in this.

OK ....

geoff

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 by: Paul Carmichael - Fri, 4 Feb 2022 09:00 UTC

El Fri, 04 Feb 2022 10:52:08 +1300, geoff escribió:

> On 4/02/2022 1:46 am, Paul Carmichael wrote:
>> El Thu, 03 Feb 2022 21:56:15 +1300, geoff escribió:
>>
>>> It will tell you how to use the 'in-focus' indicator.
>>>
>>> https://lmgtfy.app/?q=EOS+6D+user+manual&iie=1
>>
>>
>> Yes, very helpful, thankyou.
>>
>> But I still don't need a manual.
>>
>>
> So you are rueing that you are unable to focus optimally, you don't know
> how to get your camera to assist in this, and you apparently don't
> need/want the manual which will show you how to get your camera to
> assist in this.

Correct. The camera can't help with my eyes. But thanks anyway.

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