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* ot floods in SFJohn Larkin
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 by: John Larkin - Sun, 1 Jan 2023 19:31 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ4wk6bOtJI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpd1KwMXE5o

We get no rain all summer and then get "atmospheric rivers" worth. The
geometry of SF funnels a lot of water into the low spots. We had a
mudslide+rock just the other side of the canyon from our house, on
O'Shaughnessy Boulevard.

5" rain in one day is a record. 20" a year is common.

We have a single sewage+drainage system, which can be nasty.

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Sun, 1 Jan 2023 20:08 UTC

On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 2:31:36 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ4wk6bOtJI
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpd1KwMXE5o
>
> We get no rain all summer and then get "atmospheric rivers" worth. The
> geometry of SF funnels a lot of water into the low spots. We had a
> mudslide+rock just the other side of the canyon from our house, on
> O'Shaughnessy Boulevard.
>
> 5" rain in one day is a record. 20" a year is common.
>
> We have a single sewage+drainage system, which can be nasty.

Yeah- water is heavy, it will blow manhole covers off their seats. The mud slurry can be lethal, probably over 100 lbs/cu.ft., will knock you off your feet at ankle height, bury and drown you if it has any flow to it. That antiquated sewer runoff water system is doing more than you know. When water treatment is overwhelmed, it is let loose untreated into Bay or wherever it is they do it. That's just the obvious stuff. It will take a few weeks to make the news, but I'm sure there are more than few highly toxic retention ponds overflow and general area contamination.

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 by: John Larkin - Sun, 1 Jan 2023 21:15 UTC

On Sun, 1 Jan 2023 12:08:06 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 2:31:36 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ4wk6bOtJI
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpd1KwMXE5o
>>
>> We get no rain all summer and then get "atmospheric rivers" worth. The
>> geometry of SF funnels a lot of water into the low spots. We had a
>> mudslide+rock just the other side of the canyon from our house, on
>> O'Shaughnessy Boulevard.
>>
>> 5" rain in one day is a record. 20" a year is common.
>>
>> We have a single sewage+drainage system, which can be nasty.
>
>Yeah- water is heavy, it will blow manhole covers off their seats. The mud slurry can be lethal, probably over 100 lbs/cu.ft., will knock you off your feet at ankle height, bury and drown you if it has any flow to it. That antiquated sewer runoff water system is doing more than you know. When water treatment is overwhelmed, it is let loose untreated into Bay or wherever it is they do it. That's just the obvious stuff. It will take a few weeks to make the news, but I'm sure there are more than few highly toxic retention ponds overflow and general area contamination.

I've done the Paris and San Francisco sewer tours. SF was more fun and
smelled a lot better.

There's actually a (stinky) cafe' in the underground Paris sewer
complex.

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Sun, 1 Jan 2023 21:26 UTC

On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 4:16:01 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Jan 2023 12:08:06 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 2:31:36 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ4wk6bOtJI
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpd1KwMXE5o
> >>
> >> We get no rain all summer and then get "atmospheric rivers" worth. The
> >> geometry of SF funnels a lot of water into the low spots. We had a
> >> mudslide+rock just the other side of the canyon from our house, on
> >> O'Shaughnessy Boulevard.
> >>
> >> 5" rain in one day is a record. 20" a year is common.
> >>
> >> We have a single sewage+drainage system, which can be nasty.
> >
> >Yeah- water is heavy, it will blow manhole covers off their seats. The mud slurry can be lethal, probably over 100 lbs/cu.ft., will knock you off your feet at ankle height, bury and drown you if it has any flow to it. That antiquated sewer runoff water system is doing more than you know. When water treatment is overwhelmed, it is let loose untreated into Bay or wherever it is they do it. That's just the obvious stuff. It will take a few weeks to make the news, but I'm sure there are more than few highly toxic retention ponds overflow and general area contamination.
> I've done the Paris and San Francisco sewer tours. SF was more fun and
> smelled a lot better.
>
> There's actually a (stinky) cafe' in the underground Paris sewer
> complex.

Well, Paris is thousands of years older than SF. That's a lot of water under the bridge.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris#Origins

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 by: Jan Panteltje - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 07:16 UTC

On a sunny day (Sun, 01 Jan 2023 11:31:26 -0800) it happened John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
<0dn3rh1i79j4tondt3pgtji7m5d3rq8f2c@4ax.com>:

>
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ4wk6bOtJI
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpd1KwMXE5o
>
>We get no rain all summer and then get "atmospheric rivers" worth. The
>geometry of SF funnels a lot of water into the low spots. We had a
>mudslide+rock just the other side of the canyon from our house, on
>O'Shaughnessy Boulevard.
>
>5" rain in one day is a record. 20" a year is common.
>
>We have a single sewage+drainage system, which can be nasty.

Same here, Dec 31 was the warmest ever recorded,
at midnight I had like +15.1 C Celsius...
and it has been raining now intermittently for week.

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 14:42 UTC

On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 2:17:04 AM UTC-5, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Sun, 01 Jan 2023 11:31:26 -0800) it happened John Larkin
> <jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
> <0dn3rh1i79j4tondt...@4ax.com>:
> >
> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ4wk6bOtJI
> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpd1KwMXE5o
> >
> >We get no rain all summer and then get "atmospheric rivers" worth. The
> >geometry of SF funnels a lot of water into the low spots. We had a
> >mudslide+rock just the other side of the canyon from our house, on
> >O'Shaughnessy Boulevard.
> >
> >5" rain in one day is a record. 20" a year is common.
> >
> >We have a single sewage+drainage system, which can be nasty.
> Same here, Dec 31 was the warmest ever recorded,
> at midnight I had like +15.1 C Celsius...
> and it has been raining now intermittently for week.

What is your latitude longitude there? Where do your prevailing winds come from?

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 by: John Larkin - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 15:49 UTC

On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 07:16:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On a sunny day (Sun, 01 Jan 2023 11:31:26 -0800) it happened John Larkin
><jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
><0dn3rh1i79j4tondt3pgtji7m5d3rq8f2c@4ax.com>:
>
>>
>>
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ4wk6bOtJI
>>
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpd1KwMXE5o
>>
>>We get no rain all summer and then get "atmospheric rivers" worth. The
>>geometry of SF funnels a lot of water into the low spots. We had a
>>mudslide+rock just the other side of the canyon from our house, on
>>O'Shaughnessy Boulevard.
>>
>>5" rain in one day is a record. 20" a year is common.
>>
>>We have a single sewage+drainage system, which can be nasty.
>
>Same here, Dec 31 was the warmest ever recorded,
>at midnight I had like +15.1 C Celsius...
>and it has been raining now intermittently for week.

Sugar Bowl, the ski area at the Sierra peak, got 34" of snow in the
last 24 hours, 216" so far, and the snow season has just begun. They
get 80 feet in a good year.

Our summer water supply is mostly snowmelt from the mountains.

We're expecting another few big "atomospheric rivers" this week. Once
the ground saturates, we get floods and landslides. We have a lot of
non-native eucalyptus trees which get very tall and tend to fall over
when it rains.

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 16:04 UTC

On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 10:50:03 AM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 07:16:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje
> <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On a sunny day (Sun, 01 Jan 2023 11:31:26 -0800) it happened John Larkin
> ><jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
> ><0dn3rh1i79j4tondt...@4ax.com>:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ4wk6bOtJI
> >>
> >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpd1KwMXE5o
> >>
> >>We get no rain all summer and then get "atmospheric rivers" worth. The
> >>geometry of SF funnels a lot of water into the low spots. We had a
> >>mudslide+rock just the other side of the canyon from our house, on
> >>O'Shaughnessy Boulevard.
> >>
> >>5" rain in one day is a record. 20" a year is common.
> >>
> >>We have a single sewage+drainage system, which can be nasty.
> >
> >Same here, Dec 31 was the warmest ever recorded,
> >at midnight I had like +15.1 C Celsius...
> >and it has been raining now intermittently for week.
> Sugar Bowl, the ski area at the Sierra peak, got 34" of snow in the
> last 24 hours, 216" so far, and the snow season has just begun. They
> get 80 feet in a good year.
>
> Our summer water supply is mostly snowmelt from the mountains.
>
> We're expecting another few big "atomospheric rivers" this week. Once
> the ground saturates, we get floods and landslides. We have a lot of
> non-native eucalyptus trees which get very tall and tend to fall over
> when it rains.

Jeremy Renner severely injured himself plowing snow around his ranch in Lake Tahoe area. Looks they got about 5ft. A snow drift must have fooled him, covering up a steep embankment enough to lure him in and roll his truck more or less violently.

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 by: Ed Lee - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 16:56 UTC

On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 6:42:36 AM UTC-8, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 2:17:04 AM UTC-5, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> > On a sunny day (Sun, 01 Jan 2023 11:31:26 -0800) it happened John Larkin
> > <jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
> > <0dn3rh1i79j4tondt...@4ax.com>:
> > >
> > >
> > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ4wk6bOtJI
> > >
> > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpd1KwMXE5o
> > >
> > >We get no rain all summer and then get "atmospheric rivers" worth. The
> > >geometry of SF funnels a lot of water into the low spots. We had a
> > >mudslide+rock just the other side of the canyon from our house, on
> > >O'Shaughnessy Boulevard.
> > >
> > >5" rain in one day is a record. 20" a year is common.
> > >
> > >We have a single sewage+drainage system, which can be nasty.
> > Same here, Dec 31 was the warmest ever recorded,
> > at midnight I had like +15.1 C Celsius...
> > and it has been raining now intermittently for week.
> What is your latitude longitude there? Where do your prevailing winds come from?

It's not too bad for us. We are near the Ukrainian Hill (refuse to use the R word) area. Unfortunately, the chargers are at the opposite side of the hill. Even brake/regen does not recover all the energy uphill. No big deal, but i usually go around the hill.

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