Recent disasters and research show a strong need to integrate management and risk reduction strategies of droughts and flood. Having one agency focus on one hazard can have unintended consequences for another hazard. For example, maximizing reservoir storage when expecting a drought can increase the flood risk.

https://theconversation.com/atmospheric-rivers-over-californias-wildfire-burn-scars-raise-fears-of-deadly-mudslides-this-is-what-cascading-climate-disasters-look-like-197563

#fake

On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 2:57:20 PM UTC-8, a a wrote:
> #fake

The world has seen MANY "climate" disasters over our know history (you can look them up easily). It is only now that these "disasters" are blamed on human activity.

On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 7:37:35 PM UTC-8, Flyguy wrote:

> The world has seen MANY "climate" disasters over our know history (you can look them up easily). It is only now that these "disasters" are blamed on human activity.

Yeah. There's a first time for everything. It's possible that desertification and soil depletion
are precedent events, but... sands of the Sahara cover up the evidence.
Climate change hasn't had any cover for the last thirty years: it's here, it's now, we know
its causes.

On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:37:31 -0800 (PST), Flyguy
<soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 2:57:20 PM UTC-8, a a wrote:
>> #fake
>
>The world has seen MANY "climate" disasters over our know history (you can look them up easily). It is only now that these "disasters" are blamed on human activity.

Yes, weather and climate are both chaotic and sometimes violent, but
lots of climate misery is self-inflicted. Building on beaches and in
flood plains and in badly managed forests. Slurping out groundwater.
Mismanaging waterways and reservoirs and dams and levees.

We had a mild landslide this afternoon on Diamond Heights Boulevard, a
short walk away. Cutting the road created a steep dirt cliff and a
mess of ugly condos were built into the peak. The hill is just about
saturated now and a lot more rain is predicted. They have great views,
between avalanches.

O'Shaughnessy Blvd is another canyon cut that is slipping.

On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 9:11:14 PM UTC-8, John Larkin wrote:

> Yes, weather and climate are both chaotic and sometimes violent, but ...

Huh? Traditional estimates of climate are just no-change-expected (i.e.
extrapolation) and modern ones like greenhouse gas modeling are
not showing any signs of chaotic character.

Define 'chaotic' and give an example of some climate element that
fits it. If you can't do that, your claim is void.

> O'Shaughnessy Blvd is another canyon cut that is slipping.

And, every cliff everywhere on the planet is evidence of successive
losses off the face into whatever lies below. That's something that
occurs sometimes during weather events, but... it was happening slowly
anyhow. The Grand Canyon

On 2023-01-12 06:43, whit3rd wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 9:11:14 PM UTC-8, John Larkin wrote:
>
>> Yes, weather and climate are both chaotic and sometimes violent, but ...
>
> Huh? Traditional estimates of climate are just no-change-expected (i.e.
> extrapolation) and modern ones like greenhouse gas modeling are
> not showing any signs of chaotic character.
>
> Define 'chaotic' and give an example of some climate element that
> fits it. If you can't do that, your claim is void.
>
>
>> O'Shaughnessy Blvd is another canyon cut that is slipping.
>
> And, every cliff everywhere on the planet is evidence of successive
> losses off the face into whatever lies below. That's something that
> occurs sometimes during weather events, but... it was happening slowly
> anyhow. The Grand Canyon
>

Slowly on average, maybe. In fits and starts when looked at more
in detail. Nothing may happen for centuries and then suddenly half
a mountain comes sliding down.

Jeroen Belleman

On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 4:03:04 PM UTC-6, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> Recent disasters and research show a strong need to integrate management and risk reduction strategies of droughts and flood. Having one agency focus on one hazard can have unintended consequences for another hazard. For example, maximizing reservoir storage when expecting a drought can increase the flood risk.
>
> https://theconversation.com/atmospheric-rivers-over-californias-wildfire-burn-scars-raise-fears-of-deadly-mudslides-this-is-what-cascading-climate-disasters-look-like-197563

TV happened to be showing a snow avalanche that killed people trapped
on a train back in 1910. Wellington, Washington.
<https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/trains-buried-by-avalanche>

On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 21:43:23 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 9:11:14 PM UTC-8, John Larkin wrote:
>
>> Yes, weather and climate are both chaotic and sometimes violent, but ...
>
>Huh? Traditional estimates of climate are just no-change-expected (i.e.
>extrapolation) and modern ones like greenhouse gas modeling are
>not showing any signs of chaotic character.
>
>Define 'chaotic' and give an example of some climate element that
>fits it. If you can't do that, your claim is void.
>
>
>> O'Shaughnessy Blvd is another canyon cut that is slipping.
>
>And, every cliff everywhere on the planet is evidence of successive
>losses off the face into whatever lies below. That's something that
>occurs sometimes during weather events, but... it was happening slowly
>anyhow. The Grand Canyon

I bailed at Huh?

Now you can say LOL.

On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 11:21:05 AM UTC-8, John Larkin wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 21:43:23 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 9:11:14 PM UTC-8, John Larkin wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, weather and climate are both chaotic and sometimes violent, but ...
> >
> >Huh? Traditional estimates of climate are just no-change-expected (i.e.
> >extrapolation) and modern ones like greenhouse gas modeling are
> >not showing any signs of chaotic character.
> >
> >Define 'chaotic' and give an example of some climate element that
> >fits it. If you can't do that, your claim is void.

> I bailed at Huh?

No you bailed when it came time to sanity-check the claim of
chaos. I filled in the lacunae in that process. You're welcome.

On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 8:29:25 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 2:37:35 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 2:57:20 PM UTC-8, a a wrote:
> > > #fake
> >
> > The world has seen MANY "climate" disasters over our know history (you can look them up easily). It is only now that these "disasters" are blamed on human activity.
> https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/trends/
>
> Atmospheric CO2 used to sit at about 270 ppm during interglacials and a bout 180 ppm during ices age, as we known from Antarctic and Greenland ice care samples.
>
> The current level - about 420 ppm - is higher than it has been for some 20 million years and it is being produced by human activity - there less C-13 in it than there to used to be, so it's clearly coming from fossil carbon that we had dug and burnt.
>
> That extra green-house gas is having a clear and obvious effect on the climate. The "climate" disasters are actually weather disasters, but warmer oceans evaporate more water that provide the extra energy that fuels more energetic "extreme weather events".
>
> Bozo's Sewage Sweeper is much to stupid to see the connection, and he's addicted to political propaganda that's concocted to deny it.

So says the IDIOT who wants to FIREBOMB and NUKE his own fucking country. Elevated CO2 levels have been scientifically shown to have a negligible affect on global temperatures.
>
> --
> Bozo Bill Sloman, Sydney

Bozo's Sewage Sweeper