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Perfect clocks

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Subject: Perfect clocks
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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Tue, 2 May 2023 06:19 UTC

Better our devices are - more resistance
to the nature and its fancies they have.
A perfect clock would ignore the nature
completely.

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 by: J. J. Lodder - Tue, 2 May 2023 08:27 UTC

Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> wrote:

> Better our devices are - more resistance
> to the nature and its fancies they have.
> A perfect clock would ignore the nature
> completely.

Why kick down this open door once again?
Perfect clocks do not exist, period.

Perfect clocks are idealisations,
like ideal gasses, frictionless planes,
and spherical cows.
All we can ever have are imperfect clocks,
which we correct for their imperfections
as well as possible,

Jan

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Subject: Re: Perfect clocks
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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Tue, 2 May 2023 08:28 UTC

On Tuesday, 2 May 2023 at 08:19:18 UTC+2, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> Better our devices are - more resistance
> to the nature and its fancies they have.
> A perfect clock would ignore the nature
> completely.

Obviously, the famous Einstein's (Mach's?)
definition - should be read "time is what
PERFECT clocks indicate". The word "perfect"
is omitted, however - it's not a good word
for an idiot physicist, he can't comprehend
it and can't deal with it correctly.

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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Tue, 2 May 2023 08:34 UTC

On Tuesday, 2 May 2023 at 10:27:07 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Better our devices are - more resistance
> > to the nature and its fancies they have.
> > A perfect clock would ignore the nature
> > completely.
> Why kick down this open door once again?
> Perfect clocks do not exist, period.
>
> Perfect clocks are idealisations,
> like ideal gasses, frictionless planes,
> and spherical cows.
> All we can ever have are imperfect clocks
> which we correct for their imperfections
> as well as possible,

Sure. The perfect clocks - the ones perfectly
indicating time - are outside of your tale.
They are not physical and completely
independent on your precious experiments.
And, as said above - whole nature can
do nothing about them.

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