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by: Jane - Wed, 3 May 2023 00:23 UTC

I remember him cursing every time he mentioned the name. Now I see that
he was quite justified. The good professor cannot even understand
rotating frames. He does not know that a point at rest in the Earth's ECI
frame MOVES in its rotating frame. This is what he has been giving
students as a 'refutation' of ballistic theory of light.
https://paulba.no/pdf/sagnac_ring.pdf

Can you see the blatant error?

--
-- lover of truth

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by: Paul Alsing - Wed, 3 May 2023 02:01 UTC

On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 5:23:48 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote:

> I remember him cursing every time he mentioned the name. Now I see that
> he was quite justified. The good professor cannot even understand
> rotating frames. He does not know that a point at rest in the Earth's ECI
> frame MOVES in its rotating frame. This is what he has been giving
> students as a 'refutation' of ballistic theory of light.
> https://paulba.no/pdf/sagnac_ring.pdf
>
> Can you see the blatant error?

"Uncle John" was rarely right about anything. He was the original Great Pretender... apparently, that sort of thing runs in the family...

Paul B Anderson has forgotten more physics than John Parker ever knew!

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by: Jane - Wed, 3 May 2023 08:57 UTC

On Tue, 02 May 2023 19:01:18 -0700, Paul Alsing wrote:

> On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 5:23:48 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote:
>
>> I remember him cursing every time he mentioned the name. Now I see that
>> he was quite justified. The good professor cannot even understand
>> rotating frames. He does not know that a point at rest in the Earth's
>> ECI frame MOVES in its rotating frame. This is what he has been giving
>> students as a 'refutation' of ballistic theory of light.
>> https://paulba.no/pdf/sagnac_ring.pdf
>>
>> Can you see the blatant error?
>
> "Uncle John" was rarely right about anything. He was the original Great
> Pretender... apparently, that sort of thing runs in the family...
>
> Paul B Anderson has forgotten more physics than John Parker ever knew!

Anyone who cannot see the error is not qualified to post to this NG. Mind
you, I am apparently the first who did discover it in one hundred and so
I accept that it is not terribly obvious.

--
-- lover of truth

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by: gehan.am...@gmail.co - Wed, 3 May 2023 11:58 UTC

On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 1:57:22 PM UTC+5, Jane wrote:
> On Tue, 02 May 2023 19:01:18 -0700, Paul Alsing wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 5:23:48 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote:
> >
> >> I remember him cursing every time he mentioned the name. Now I see that
> >> he was quite justified. The good professor cannot even understand
> >> rotating frames. He does not know that a point at rest in the Earth's
> >> ECI frame MOVES in its rotating frame. This is what he has been giving
> >> students as a 'refutation' of ballistic theory of light.
> >> https://paulba.no/pdf/sagnac_ring.pdf
> >>
> >> Can you see the blatant error?
> >
> > "Uncle John" was rarely right about anything. He was the original Great
> > Pretender... apparently, that sort of thing runs in the family...
> >
> > Paul B Anderson has forgotten more physics than John Parker ever knew!
> Anyone who cannot see the error is not qualified to post to this NG. Mind
> you, I am apparently the first who did discover it in one hundred and so
> I accept that it is not terribly obvious.
> --
> -- lover of truth

First of all, "Jane" is actually Jan E, and is a paraglider enthusiast who has posted his You Tube video channel link here, is that correct?

Second, is this the "Der Hexenmiester" "Androcles" Engineer John we are talking about? He had a website with some interesting illustrations that I did not quite understand at the time.

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by: Paul Alsing - Wed, 3 May 2023 17:28 UTC

On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 1:57:22 AM UTC-7, Jane wrote:
> On Tue, 02 May 2023 19:01:18 -0700, Paul Alsing wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 5:23:48 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote:
> >
> >> I remember him cursing every time he mentioned the name. Now I see that
> >> he was quite justified. The good professor cannot even understand
> >> rotating frames. He does not know that a point at rest in the Earth's
> >> ECI frame MOVES in its rotating frame. This is what he has been giving
> >> students as a 'refutation' of ballistic theory of light.
> >> https://paulba.no/pdf/sagnac_ring.pdf
> >>
> >> Can you see the blatant error?
> >
> > "Uncle John" was rarely right about anything. He was the original Great
> > Pretender... apparently, that sort of thing runs in the family...
> >
> > Paul B Anderson has forgotten more physics than John Parker ever knew!

> Anyone who cannot see the error is not qualified to post to this NG. Mind
> you, I am apparently the first who did discover it in one hundred and so
> I accept that it is not terribly obvious.

So... where do you keep your Nobel Prize? Should I assume that when your theory is finally appreciated, present-day science will be seen for the sham it truly is?

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by: Jane - Sat, 6 May 2023 00:16 UTC

On Wed, 03 May 2023 04:58:08 -0700, gehan.am...@gmail.com wrote:

>> >> Can you see the blatant error?
>> >
>> > "Uncle John" was rarely right about anything. He was the original
>> > Great Pretender... apparently, that sort of thing runs in the
>> > family...
>> >
>> > Paul B Anderson has forgotten more physics than John Parker ever
>> > knew!
>> Anyone who cannot see the error is not qualified to post to this NG.
>> Mind you, I am apparently the first who did discover it in one hundred
>> and so I accept that it is not terribly obvious.
>> --
>> -- lover of truth
>
> First of all, "Jane" is actually Jan E, and is a paraglider enthusiast
> who has posted his You Tube video channel link here, is that correct?

Hardly. I don't like heights.
> Second, is this the "Der Hexenmiester" "Androcles" Engineer John we
> are talking about? He had a website with some interesting illustrations
> that I did not quite understand at the time.

The late Dr. John Parker. His work was exceptional.... till he went
crazy.

--
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by: Jane - Sat, 6 May 2023 00:19 UTC

On Wed, 03 May 2023 10:28:01 -0700, Paul Alsing wrote:

>> >
>> > "Uncle John" was rarely right about anything. He was the original
>> > Great Pretender... apparently, that sort of thing runs in the
>> > family...
>> >
>> > Paul B Anderson has forgotten more physics than John Parker ever
>> > knew!
>
>> Anyone who cannot see the error is not qualified to post to this NG.
>> Mind you, I am apparently the first who did discover it in one hundred
>> and so I accept that it is not terribly obvious.
>
> So... where do you keep your Nobel Prize? Should I assume that when your
> theory is finally appreciated, present-day science will be seen for the
> sham it truly is?

Oh that's nothing compared with my other discoveries.

Now! Find the obvious error or go away please.

--
-- lover of truth

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by: Paul Alsing - Sat, 6 May 2023 01:44 UTC

On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 5:19:14 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote:
> On Wed, 03 May 2023 10:28:01 -0700, Paul Alsing wrote:
>
>
> >> >
> >> > "Uncle John" was rarely right about anything. He was the original
> >> > Great Pretender... apparently, that sort of thing runs in the
> >> > family...
> >> >
> >> > Paul B Anderson has forgotten more physics than John Parker ever
> >> > knew!
> >
> >> Anyone who cannot see the error is not qualified to post to this NG.
> >> Mind you, I am apparently the first who did discover it in one hundred
> >> and so I accept that it is not terribly obvious.
> >
> > So... where do you keep your Nobel Prize? Should I assume that when your
> > theory is finally appreciated, present-day science will be seen for the
> > sham it truly is?

> Oh that's nothing compared with my other discoveries.

> Now! Find the obvious error or go away please.

I don't see any error, and neither do you. Present your evidence or *you* go away...

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by: gehan.am...@gmail.co - Sat, 6 May 2023 02:45 UTC

On Saturday, May 6, 2023 at 5:16:27 AM UTC+5, Jane wrote:
> On Wed, 03 May 2023 04:58:08 -0700, gehan.am...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> >> >> Can you see the blatant error?
> >> >
> >> > "Uncle John" was rarely right about anything. He was the original
> >> > Great Pretender... apparently, that sort of thing runs in the
> >> > family...
> >> >
> >> > Paul B Anderson has forgotten more physics than John Parker ever
> >> > knew!
> >> Anyone who cannot see the error is not qualified to post to this NG.
> >> Mind you, I am apparently the first who did discover it in one hundred
> >> and so I accept that it is not terribly obvious.
> >> --
> >> -- lover of truth
> >
> > First of all, "Jane" is actually Jan E, and is a paraglider enthusiast
> > who has posted his You Tube video channel link here, is that correct?
> Hardly. I don't like heights.
> > Second, is this the "Der Hexenmiester" "Androcles" Engineer John we
> > are talking about? He had a website with some interesting illustrations
> > that I did not quite understand at the time.
> The late Dr. John Parker. His work was exceptional.... till he went
> crazy.
> --
> -- lover of truth

I once made a comment the Late John Parker is with the Almighty laughing at the fact that now, for them, Special Relativity is not a thing anymore.

"Tell me Lord, did this event happen before that event although the light cone may put some restrictions on your Omniscience?"

And there is much laughter.

"Wait wait here is another one... which - twin - is older????"

More laughter.

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by: whodat - Sat, 6 May 2023 02:59 UTC

On 5/5/2023 7:16 PM, Jane wrote:
> On Wed, 03 May 2023 04:58:08 -0700, gehan.am...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>>>> Can you see the blatant error?
>>>>
>>>> "Uncle John" was rarely right about anything. He was the original
>>>> Great Pretender... apparently, that sort of thing runs in the
>>>> family...
>>>>
>>>> Paul B Anderson has forgotten more physics than John Parker ever
>>>> knew!
>>> Anyone who cannot see the error is not qualified to post to this NG.
>>> Mind you, I am apparently the first who did discover it in one hundred
>>> and so I accept that it is not terribly obvious.
>>> --
>>> -- lover of truth
>>
>> First of all, "Jane" is actually Jan E, and is a paraglider enthusiast
>> who has posted his You Tube video channel link here, is that correct?
>
> Hardly. I don't like heights.
>
>> Second, is this the "Der Hexenmiester" "Androcles" Engineer John we
>> are talking about? He had a website with some interesting illustrations
>> that I did not quite understand at the time.
>
> The late Dr. John Parker. His work was exceptional.... till he went
> crazy.

Runs in the family?

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by: gehan.am...@gmail.co - Sat, 6 May 2023 11:10 UTC

On Saturday, May 6, 2023 at 8:02:02 AM UTC+5, whodat wrote:
> On 5/5/2023 7:16 PM, Jane wrote:
> > On Wed, 03 May 2023 04:58:08 -0700, gehan.am...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>>> Can you see the blatant error?
> >>>>
> >>>> "Uncle John" was rarely right about anything. He was the original
> >>>> Great Pretender... apparently, that sort of thing runs in the
> >>>> family...
> >>>>
> >>>> Paul B Anderson has forgotten more physics than John Parker ever
> >>>> knew!
> >>> Anyone who cannot see the error is not qualified to post to this NG.
> >>> Mind you, I am apparently the first who did discover it in one hundred
> >>> and so I accept that it is not terribly obvious.
> >>> --
> >>> -- lover of truth
> >>
> >> First of all, "Jane" is actually Jan E, and is a paraglider enthusiast
> >> who has posted his You Tube video channel link here, is that correct?
> >
> > Hardly. I don't like heights.
> >
> >> Second, is this the "Der Hexenmiester" "Androcles" Engineer John we
> >> are talking about? He had a website with some interesting illustrations
> >> that I did not quite understand at the time.
> >
> > The late Dr. John Parker. His work was exceptional.... till he went
> > crazy.
> Runs in the family?

Runs in this newsgroup where he inherited it from.

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by: Jane - Sun, 7 May 2023 01:23 UTC

On Sat, 06 May 2023 04:10:21 -0700, gehan.am...@gmail.com wrote:

>> >>
>> >> First of all, "Jane" is actually Jan E, and is a paraglider
>> >> enthusiast who has posted his You Tube video channel link here, is
>> >> that correct?
>> >
>> > Hardly. I don't like heights.
>> >
>> >> Second, is this the "Der Hexenmiester" "Androcles" Engineer John we
>> >> are talking about? He had a website with some interesting
>> >> illustrations that I did not quite understand at the time.
>> >
>> > The late Dr. John Parker. His work was exceptional.... till he went
>> > crazy.
>> Runs in the family?
>

They drove him crazy...but his morphine helped.

> Runs in this newsgroup where he inherited it from.

.....very low mentality on one side...

--
-- lover of truth

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by: Jane - Sun, 7 May 2023 01:24 UTC

On Fri, 05 May 2023 18:44:11 -0700, Paul Alsing wrote:

> On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 5:19:14 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote:

>> >
>> > So... where do you keep your Nobel Prize? Should I assume that when
>> > your theory is finally appreciated, present-day science will be seen
>> > for the sham it truly is?
>
>> Oh that's nothing compared with my other discoveries.
>
>> Now! Find the obvious error or go away please.
>
> I don't see any error,

You never will. You are not smart enough.

>and neither do you. Present your evidence or
> *you* go away...

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Subject	Author
Uncle John was Right about Paul Andersen	Jane
Re: Uncle John was Right about Paul Andersen	Paul Alsing
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Re: Uncle John was Right about Paul Andersen	gehan.am...@gmail.com
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Re: Uncle John was Right about Paul Andersen	gehan.am...@gmail.com
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Re: Uncle John was Right about Paul Andersen	Paul Alsing
Re: Uncle John was Right about Paul Andersen	Jane
Re: Uncle John was Right about Paul Andersen	Paul Alsing
Re: Uncle John was Right about Paul Andersen	Jane