On 03/03/2022 16:44, Whisky-dave wrote:
> On Thursday, 3 March 2022 at 14:08:49 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
>> On 03/03/2022 13:26, Whisky-dave wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 3 March 2022 at 12:36:58 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
>>>> *On 03/03/2022 11:54, Whisky-dave - *Questions*!
>>>>
>>>> Can you use your mobile phone to look at Savageduck's link?
>>>
>>> Yes that works using the college wireless eduroam network,
>>> using google groups just like I do on the iMac.
>>> Opens ups the link and plays it perfectly.
>>> This is using safari, I might try it with FF on iPhone later.
>>>
>>> Which is the same network that I use on the iMac to access the 'web'
>> Do you have another Apple Mac available to see if you can open up the
>> link on a different Mac?
>
> Not in the lab that is a mid 2011 , well mine is the only iMac in my labs.
>
> I'll try the one at home perhaps tonnigh or tomorrow as I'm working from home
> tomorrow.

If the one at home DOES work as intended, it will indicate a 'fault'
with your one at work.

>> If you have, and you can, I suggest you restart your personal iMac in
>> Safe Boot mode. Safe mode may help you resolve or isolate problems that
>> you’re having with your Mac.
>>
>> "When you start up in safe mode, your Mac prevents some software, such
>> as startup items, from loading, and it performs a check of your startup
>> disk. Your Mac may take longer to start up because of the check."
>
> I won't bother doing that too much hassle for little to no gain.
It's no hassle at all! :-D
Just restart your iMac whilst holding down the shift key.
It shouldn't take more than a minute or so.
(make sure you can see ''Safe Boot' in red text in the top right-hand
corner of your screen)

One it has started up, you can simply restart again.

All done and dusted within 5 minutes.

>> Details here:- https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201262
>>>> Can you use your mobile phone as a 'hotspot'?
>>>>
>>>> If you can, connect your iMac wirelessly to your phone in Network
>>>> Preferences. Test on, say, the BBC - if working, try Savageduck's link
>>>> from your iMac using your phone as the Internet connection.
>> When you connect your phone directly to the 4G network, *can you use
>> your phone as a hotspot*?
>>
>> HTH

On Friday, 4 March 2022 at 5:24:02 am UTC+10, David Brooks wrote:
> On 03/03/2022 16:44, Whisky-dave wrote:
> > On Thursday, 3 March 2022 at 14:08:49 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> >> On 03/03/2022 13:26, Whisky-dave wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, 3 March 2022 at 12:36:58 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> >>>> *On 03/03/2022 11:54, Whisky-dave - *Questions*!
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you use your mobile phone to look at Savageduck's link?
> >>>
> >>> Yes that works using the college wireless eduroam network,
> >>> using google groups just like I do on the iMac.
> >>> Opens ups the link and plays it perfectly.
<Some Mac specific stuff snipped>

From Bill W
>> You glossed over one important question: when you click on a link, does it
>> appear in the browser address bar exactly as the link you clicked on in the
>> post?

On FF: New Tab opens, with 'about:blank' in the address bar.

On Chrome: New tab opens with the following in the address bar:
https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4
and the following text in the body of the page:
This site can’t be reached
The web page at https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4 might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.
ERR_INVALID_RESPONSE

I also tried Pale Moon (I think it's based on FF) and got:-

File not found
Pale Moon can't find the file at https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539d7/1920/Morro Bay February 28 2022-1920.mp4.
Check the file name for capitalization or other typing errors.
Check to see if the file was moved, renamed or deleted.

Obviously the file is there, and again, if I copy the URL and paste it into a new tab, it all works as advertised.

I've also tried using my phone as a hotspot (as suggested above) and confirmed that even with a new IP/DNS resolver, I get the same results.
A (very) mad stab in the dark here, but is there any one else in this group who is outside the USA and not having this issue (ie: anyone who isn't either Whisky-Dave or me)?

I've had a decent look through Google and nothing comes out as significant or relevant. I think I'm going to put this down to 'one of those computer things' that can't be solved by switching it off and on again. As a retired bloke, I only have a limited number of years left. :-)

Cheers,
Magani

On Mar 3, 2022, Magani wrote
(in article<e68634d1-962b-4f22-87c0-fbcf5b9d19d0n@googlegroups.com>):

> On Friday, 4 March 2022 at 5:24:02 am UTC+10, David Brooks wrote:
> > On 03/03/2022 16:44, Whisky-dave wrote:
> > > On Thursday, 3 March 2022 at 14:08:49 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> > > > On 03/03/2022 13:26, Whisky-dave wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, 3 March 2022 at 12:36:58 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> > > > > > *On 03/03/2022 11:54, Whisky-dave - *Questions*!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you use your mobile phone to look at Savageduck's link?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes that works using the college wireless eduroam network,
> > > > > using google groups just like I do on the iMac.
> > > > > Opens ups the link and plays it perfectly.
> <Some Mac specific stuff snipped>
>
> From Bill W
> > > You glossed over one important question: when you click on a link, does it
> > > appear in the browser address bar exactly as the link you clicked on in the
> > > post?
>
> On FF: New Tab opens, with 'about:blank' in the address bar.
>
> On Chrome: New tab opens with the following in the address bar:
> https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539
> d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4
> and the following text in the body of the page:
> This site can’t be reached
> The web page at
> https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539
> d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4 might be temporarily down
> or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.
> ERR_INVALID_RESPONSE

When I click on either of the above links, they both work, even when I switch
my VPN to a server in the UK.

>
>
> I also tried Pale Moon (I think it's based on FF) and got:-
>
> File not found
> Pale Moon can't find the file at
> https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539
> d7/1920/Morro Bay February 28 2022-1920.mp4.
> Check the file name for capitalization or other typing errors.
> Check to see if the file was moved, renamed or deleted.

The above link is broken, and maybe the browser broke it. Did you check the
two links above this one for any stray spaces in the address bar after you
clicked on the link?

>
>
> Obviously the file is there, and again, if I copy the URL and paste it into a
> new tab, it all works as advertised.
>
> I've also tried using my phone as a hotspot (as suggested above) and
> confirmed that even with a new IP/DNS resolver, I get the same results.

I hate to ask this, but did you turn the wifi on your phone OFF before you
made it a hotspot? If not, all you did was use your home wifi, but with trip
through the phone first.

>
> A (very) mad stab in the dark here, but is there any one else in this group
> who is outside the USA and not having this issue (ie: anyone who isn't either
> Whisky-Dave or me)?

That’s why I tried the VPN set to the UK, but I don’t know if that was
any sort of valid test of anything.

On 04/03/2022 02:39, Bill W wrote:
> On Mar 3, 2022, Magani wrote
> (in article<e68634d1-962b-4f22-87c0-fbcf5b9d19d0n@googlegroups.com>):
>
>> On Friday, 4 March 2022 at 5:24:02 am UTC+10, David Brooks wrote:
>>> On 03/03/2022 16:44, Whisky-dave wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, 3 March 2022 at 14:08:49 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>> On 03/03/2022 13:26, Whisky-dave wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, 3 March 2022 at 12:36:58 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>> *On 03/03/2022 11:54, Whisky-dave - *Questions*!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you use your mobile phone to look at Savageduck's link?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes that works using the college wireless eduroam network,
>>>>>> using google groups just like I do on the iMac.
>>>>>> Opens ups the link and plays it perfectly.
>> <Some Mac specific stuff snipped>
>>
>> From Bill W
>>>> You glossed over one important question: when you click on a link, does it
>>>> appear in the browser address bar exactly as the link you clicked on in the
>>>> post?
>>
>> On FF: New Tab opens, with 'about:blank' in the address bar.
>>
>> On Chrome: New tab opens with the following in the address bar:
>> https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539
>> d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4
>> and the following text in the body of the page:
>> This site can’t be reached
>> The web page at
>> https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539
>> d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4 might be temporarily down
>> or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.
>> ERR_INVALID_RESPONSE
>
> When I click on either of the above links, they both work, even when I switch
> my VPN to a server in the UK.

Both of those links work for me too.

>> I also tried Pale Moon (I think it's based on FF) and got:-
>>
>> File not found
>> Pale Moon can't find the file at
>> https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539
>> d7/1920/Morro Bay February 28 2022-1920.mp4.
>> Check the file name for capitalization or other typing errors.
>> Check to see if the file was moved, renamed or deleted.
>
> The above link is broken, and maybe the browser broke it. Did you check the
> two links above this one for any stray spaces in the address bar after you
> clicked on the link?

Agreed

>> Obviously the file is there, and again, if I copy the URL and paste it into a
>> new tab, it all works as advertised.
>>
>> I've also tried using my phone as a hotspot (as suggested above) and
>> confirmed that even with a new IP/DNS resolver, I get the same results.
>
> I hate to ask this, but did you turn the wifi on your phone OFF before you
> made it a hotspot? If not, all you did was use your home wifi, but with trip
> through the phone first.

Good thinking! That is quite possible.

>> A (very) mad stab in the dark here, but is there any one else in this group
>> who is outside the USA and not having this issue (ie: anyone who isn't either
>> Whisky-Dave or me)?
>
> That’s why I tried the VPN set to the UK, but I don’t know if that was
> any sort of valid test of anything.

I'm in Devon, England and the links *DO* work for me.

There's ALWAYS a reason for failure. Be persistent and you'll find it!

Good luck!

On Friday, 4 March 2022 at 7:00:54 pm UTC+10, David Brooks wrote:
> On 04/03/2022 02:39, Bill W wrote:
> > On Mar 3, 2022, Magani wrote
> > (in article<e68634d1-962b-4f22...@googlegroups.com>):
> >
> >> On Friday, 4 March 2022 at 5:24:02 am UTC+10, David Brooks wrote:
> >>> On 03/03/2022 16:44, Whisky-dave wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, 3 March 2022 at 14:08:49 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> >>>>> On 03/03/2022 13:26, Whisky-dave wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thursday, 3 March 2022 at 12:36:58 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> >>>>>>> *On 03/03/2022 11:54, Whisky-dave - *Questions*!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Can you use your mobile phone to look at Savageduck's link?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes that works using the college wireless eduroam network,
> >>>>>> using google groups just like I do on the iMac.
> >>>>>> Opens ups the link and plays it perfectly.
> >> <Some Mac specific stuff snipped>
> >>
> >> From Bill W
> >>>> You glossed over one important question: when you click on a link, does it
> >>>> appear in the browser address bar exactly as the link you clicked on in the
> >>>> post?
> >>
> >> On FF: New Tab opens, with 'about:blank' in the address bar.
> >>
> >> On Chrome: New tab opens with the following in the address bar:
> >> https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539
> >> d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4
> >> and the following text in the body of the page:
> >> This site can’t be reached
> >> The web page at
> >> https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539
> >> d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4 might be temporarily down
> >> or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.
> >> ERR_INVALID_RESPONSE
> >
> > When I click on either of the above links, they both work, even when I switch
> > my VPN to a server in the UK.
> Both of those links work for me too.
> >> I also tried Pale Moon (I think it's based on FF) and got:-
> >>
> >> File not found
> >> Pale Moon can't find the file at
> >> https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539
> >> d7/1920/Morro Bay February 28 2022-1920.mp4.
> >> Check the file name for capitalization or other typing errors.
> >> Check to see if the file was moved, renamed or deleted.
> >
> > The above link is broken, and maybe the browser broke it. Did you check the
> > two links above this one for any stray spaces in the address bar after you
> > clicked on the link?

If I copy and paste the link into a new tab, it always works. Even savageduck's new clip around the dry landscape works if I do that. It just doesn't work when I click on the link directly.
The link above is broken because the news group editor truncated it and added a CRLF. On my original post it was all in one line.

> Agreed
> >> Obviously the file is there, and again, if I copy the URL and paste it into a
> >> new tab, it all works as advertised.
> >>
> >> I've also tried using my phone as a hotspot (as suggested above) and
> >> confirmed that even with a new IP/DNS resolver, I get the same results..
> >
> > I hate to ask this, but did you turn the wifi on your phone OFF before you
> > made it a hotspot? If not, all you did was use your home wifi, but with trip
> > through the phone first.
> Good thinking! That is quite possible.

Yes. My phone does that automatically. You cannot have a hotspot and WiFi at the same time.

> >> A (very) mad stab in the dark here, but is there any one else in this group
> >> who is outside the USA and not having this issue (ie: anyone who isn't either
> >> Whisky-Dave or me)?
> >
> > That’s why I tried the VPN set to the UK, but I don’t know if that was
> > any sort of valid test of anything.
> I'm in Devon, England and the links *DO* work for me.

Good to know it's not country specific then.

>
> There's ALWAYS a reason for failure. Be persistent and you'll find it!
>
> Good luck!

Thanks. :-)

On Mar 4, 2022, Magani wrote
(in article<a5a7d187-4220-4e73-92ad-f827d0c8b1d0n@googlegroups.com>):

> On Friday, 4 March 2022 at 7:00:54 pm UTC+10, David Brooks wrote:
> > On 04/03/2022 02:39, Bill W wrote:
> > > On Mar 3, 2022, Magani wrote
> > > (in article<e68634d1-962b-4f22...@googlegroups.com>):
> > >
> > > > On Friday, 4 March 2022 at 5:24:02 am UTC+10, David Brooks wrote:
> > > > > On 03/03/2022 16:44, Whisky-dave wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, 3 March 2022 at 14:08:49 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> > > > > > > On 03/03/2022 13:26, Whisky-dave wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Thursday, 3 March 2022 at 12:36:58 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> > > > > > > > > *On 03/03/2022 11:54, Whisky-dave - *Questions*!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Can you use your mobile phone to look at Savageduck's link?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes that works using the college wireless eduroam network,
> > > > > > > > using google groups just like I do on the iMac.
> > > > > > > > Opens ups the link and plays it perfectly.
> > > > <Some Mac specific stuff snipped>
> > > >
> > > > From Bill W
> > > > > > You glossed over one important question: when you click on a link, does
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > appear in the browser address bar exactly as the link you clicked on in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > post?
> > > >
> > > > On FF: New Tab opens, with 'about:blank' in the address bar.
> > > >
> > > > On Chrome: New tab opens with the following in the address bar:
> > > > https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db
> > > > 3539
> > > > d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4
> > > > and the following text in the body of the page:
> > > > This site can’t be reached
> > > > The web page at
> > > > https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db
> > > > 3539
> > > > d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4 might be temporarily
> > > > down
> > > > or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.
> > > > ERR_INVALID_RESPONSE
> > >
> > > When I click on either of the above links, they both work, even when I
> > > switch
> > > my VPN to a server in the UK.
> > Both of those links work for me too.
> > > > I also tried Pale Moon (I think it's based on FF) and got:-
> > > >
> > > > File not found
> > > > Pale Moon can't find the file at
> > > > https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db
> > > > 3539
> > > > d7/1920/Morro Bay February 28 2022-1920.mp4.
> > > > Check the file name for capitalization or other typing errors.
> > > > Check to see if the file was moved, renamed or deleted.
> > >
> > > The above link is broken, and maybe the browser broke it. Did you check the
> > > two links above this one for any stray spaces in the address bar after you
> > > clicked on the link?
>
> If I copy and paste the link into a new tab, it always works. Even
> savageduck's new clip around the dry landscape works if I do that. It just
> doesn't work when I click on the link directly.
> The link above is broken because the news group editor truncated it and added
> a CRLF. On my original post it was all in one line.

If the exact same characters appear in the link whether you click on the link
or paste it in, than nothing I’ve said so far is useful. The only remaining
thing I can think of is that browsers might treat pasted and clicked links
differently from a security standpoint, and might block some clicked links
based on your security settings, but ignore pasted links.

> > Agreed
> > > > Obviously the file is there, and again, if I copy the URL and paste it
> > > > into a
> > > > new tab, it all works as advertised.
> > > >
> > > > I've also tried using my phone as a hotspot (as suggested above) and
> > > > confirmed that even with a new IP/DNS resolver, I get the same results.
> > >
> > > I hate to ask this, but did you turn the wifi on your phone OFF before you
> > > made it a hotspot? If not, all you did was use your home wifi, but with
> > > trip
> > > through the phone first.
> > Good thinking! That is quite possible.
>
> Yes. My phone does that automatically. You cannot have a hotspot and WiFi at
> the same time.

That’s odd. I am talking about hotspot, and not tethering, and I don’t
know if it makes a difference, but my phone, if connected to wifi, will
become a hotspot and just pass my home wifi through. They can both be on at
the same time. I must manually turn off the wifi or I end up with the same IP
address on my PC whether on hotspot or direct wifi. You also must make sure
you don’t have an ethernet cable plugged into your PC, or it overrides any
wifi.

On Thursday, 3 March 2022 at 16:49:58 UTC, Bill W wrote:
> On Mar 3, 2022, Whisky-dave wrote

<snipped>

> You glossed over one important question: when you click on a link, does it
> appear in the browser address bar exactly as the link you clicked on in the
> post?

Here at home on my iMac FF bug sur

It opens up a new new window, with the title :Blank, with a black screen.

>If not, then the link is breaking somewhere after you click on it. If
> it is the same, didn’t you say somewhere that you saw an error message that
> the browser couldn’t find the address of the link?.

No error reported

> That is why I brought up
> DNS. And if this is happening only at work, why are you bothering with it?
> There’s nothing you can do about it. And that DNS you saw might be only the
> IP of the school’s gateway, not the actual DNS being used.

true I guess that down to security too.

On Friday, 4 March 2022 at 02:39:15 UTC, Bill W wrote:
> On Mar 3, 2022, Magani wrote
> (in article<e68634d1-962b-4f22...@googlegroups.com>):
> > On Friday, 4 March 2022 at 5:24:02 am UTC+10, David Brooks wrote:
> > > On 03/03/2022 16:44, Whisky-dave wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, 3 March 2022 at 14:08:49 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> > > > > On 03/03/2022 13:26, Whisky-dave wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, 3 March 2022 at 12:36:58 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> > > > > > > *On 03/03/2022 11:54, Whisky-dave - *Questions*!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can you use your mobile phone to look at Savageduck's link?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes that works using the college wireless eduroam network,
> > > > > > using google groups just like I do on the iMac.
> > > > > > Opens ups the link and plays it perfectly.
> > <Some Mac specific stuff snipped>
> >
> > From Bill W
> > > > You glossed over one important question: when you click on a link, does it
> > > > appear in the browser address bar exactly as the link you clicked on in the
> > > > post?
> >
> > On FF: New Tab opens, with 'about:blank' in the address bar.
> >
> > On Chrome: New tab opens with the following in the address bar:
> > https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539
> > d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4
> > and the following text in the body of the page:
> > This site can’t be reached
> > The web page at
> > https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539
> > d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4 might be temporarily down
> > or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.
> > ERR_INVALID_RESPONSE
> When I click on either of the above links, they both work, even when I switch
> my VPN to a server in the UK.
> >
> >
> > I also tried Pale Moon (I think it's based on FF) and got:-
> >
> > File not found
> > Pale Moon can't find the file at
> > https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539
> > d7/1920/Morro Bay February 28 2022-1920.mp4.
> > Check the file name for capitalization or other typing errors.

When I click on a broken link still don't get the video but the URL bar does have that part of the address that was "Blue" ie section that was a link

"https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539 "

> > Check to see if the file was moved, renamed or deleted.
> The above link is broken, and maybe the browser broke it. Did you check the
> two links above this one for any stray spaces in the address bar after you
> clicked on the link?
> >
> >
> > Obviously the file is there, and again, if I copy the URL and paste it into a
> > new tab, it all works as advertised.
> >
> > I've also tried using my phone as a hotspot (as suggested above) and
> > confirmed that even with a new IP/DNS resolver, I get the same results.
> I hate to ask this, but did you turn the wifi on your phone OFF before you
> made it a hotspot? If not, all you did was use your home wifi, but with trip
> through the phone first.
> >
> > A (very) mad stab in the dark here, but is there any one else in this group
> > who is outside the USA and not having this issue (ie: anyone who isn't either
> > Whisky-Dave or me)?
> That’s why I tried the VPN set to the UK, but I don’t know if that was
> any sort of valid test of anything.

On Thursday, 3 March 2022 at 19:24:02 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> On 03/03/2022 16:44, Whisky-dave wrote:
> > On Thursday, 3 March 2022 at 14:08:49 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> >> On 03/03/2022 13:26, Whisky-dave wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, 3 March 2022 at 12:36:58 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> >>>> *On 03/03/2022 11:54, Whisky-dave - *Questions*!
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you use your mobile phone to look at Savageduck's link?
> >>>
> >>> Yes that works using the college wireless eduroam network,
> >>> using google groups just like I do on the iMac.
> >>> Opens ups the link and plays it perfectly.
> >>> This is using safari, I might try it with FF on iPhone later.
> >>>
> >>> Which is the same network that I use on the iMac to access the 'web'
> >> Do you have another Apple Mac available to see if you can open up the
> >> link on a different Mac?
> >
> > Not in the lab that is a mid 2011 , well mine is the only iMac in my labs.
> >
> > I'll try the one at home perhaps tonnigh or tomorrow as I'm working from home
> > tomorrow.
> If the one at home DOES work as intended, it will indicate a 'fault'
> with your one at work.

Same at home.

> >> If you have, and you can, I suggest you restart your personal iMac in
> >> Safe Boot mode. Safe mode may help you resolve or isolate problems that
> >> you’re having with your Mac.
> >>
> >> "When you start up in safe mode, your Mac prevents some software, such
> >> as startup items, from loading, and it performs a check of your startup
> >> disk. Your Mac may take longer to start up because of the check."
> >
> > I won't bother doing that too much hassle for little to no gain.
> It's no hassle at all! :-D

Well I have other things running, plus replying to students as they type their orders into google doc,
I'll try it when I think of it during a quieter time.
> Just restart your iMac whilst holding down the shift key.
> It shouldn't take more than a minute or so.
> (make sure you can see ''Safe Boot' in red text in the top right-hand
> corner of your screen)
>
> One it has started up, you can simply restart again.
>
> All done and dusted within 5 minutes.
> >> Details here:- https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201262
> >>>> Can you use your mobile phone as a 'hotspot'?
> >>>>
> >>>> If you can, connect your iMac wirelessly to your phone in Network
> >>>> Preferences. Test on, say, the BBC - if working, try Savageduck's link
> >>>> from your iMac using your phone as the Internet connection.
> >> When you connect your phone directly to the 4G network, *can you use
> >> your phone as a hotspot*?
> >>
> >> HTH

On Tuesday, 1 March 2022 at 02:20:51 UTC, Savageduck wrote:
> It was a beautiful day down at Morro Bay today, except for some hefty wind. Fortunately the Air 2S was able to handle it.
>
> <https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4>
>

Get gets stranger...
here at home
when I right click and open in "new tab" or open in "new window" I get blank aka SFA

When I open in a "new private window" it works opens up in the same size window and plays fine.
So maybe a cookie problem.

I'm guessing that will the same at work, but will have to wait until Monday for that.
So sort of sorted.
> --
> Regards,
> Savageduck

On 06/03/2022 02:06, Whisky-dave wrote:
> On Thursday, 3 March 2022 at 19:24:02 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
>> On 03/03/2022 16:44, Whisky-dave wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 3 March 2022 at 14:08:49 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
>>>> On 03/03/2022 13:26, Whisky-dave wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, 3 March 2022 at 12:36:58 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>> *On 03/03/2022 11:54, Whisky-dave - *Questions*!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you use your mobile phone to look at Savageduck's link?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes that works using the college wireless eduroam network,
>>>>> using google groups just like I do on the iMac.
>>>>> Opens ups the link and plays it perfectly.
>>>>> This is using safari, I might try it with FF on iPhone later.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which is the same network that I use on the iMac to access the 'web'
>>>> Do you have another Apple Mac available to see if you can open up the
>>>> link on a different Mac?
>>>
>>> Not in the lab that is a mid 2011 , well mine is the only iMac in my labs.
>>>
>>> I'll try the one at home perhaps tonnigh or tomorrow as I'm working from home
>>> tomorrow.
>> If the one at home DOES work as intended, it will indicate a 'fault'
>> with your one at work.
>
> Same at home.

Noted. There may be no computer problem at work.

>>>> If you have, and you can, I suggest you restart your personal iMac in
>>>> Safe Boot mode. Safe mode may help you resolve or isolate problems that
>>>> you’re having with your Mac.
>>>>
>>>> "When you start up in safe mode, your Mac prevents some software, such
>>>> as startup items, from loading, and it performs a check of your startup
>>>> disk. Your Mac may take longer to start up because of the check."
>>>
>>> I won't bother doing that too much hassle for little to no gain.
>> It's no hassle at all! :-D
>
> Well I have other things running, plus replying to students as they type their orders into google doc,
> I'll try it when I think of it during a quieter time.

Understood.

<snip>

A suggestion, Download and install the Brave browser. https://brave.com/

Then copy and paste this link into the browser address bar and click
return:-

https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4

It 'works' almost instantly for me (There is a black screen momentarily)

Does this approach work for you?

--
David

On 06/03/2022 02:14, Whisky-dave wrote:
> On Tuesday, 1 March 2022 at 02:20:51 UTC, Savageduck wrote:
>> It was a beautiful day down at Morro Bay today, except for some hefty wind. Fortunately the Air 2S was able to handle it.
>>
>> <https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4>
>>
>
> Get gets stranger...
> here at home
> when I right click and open in "new tab" or open in "new window" I get blank aka SFA
>
> When I open in a "new private window" it works opens up in the same size window and plays fine.
> So maybe a cookie problem.
>
> I'm guessing that will the same at work, but will have to wait until Monday for that.
> So sort of sorted.

Have you considered updating your iMac to macOS Monterey?

It works just fine for me - now on Version 12.2.1

You could have your machine 'up and running' with it before lunchtime! ;-)

--
David

On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 12:14:22 pm UTC+10, Whisky-dave wrote:
> On Tuesday, 1 March 2022 at 02:20:51 UTC, Savageduck wrote:
> > It was a beautiful day down at Morro Bay today, except for some hefty wind. Fortunately the Air 2S was able to handle it.
> >
> > <https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4>
> >
>
> Get gets stranger...
> here at home
> when I right click and open in "new tab" or open in "new window" I get blank aka SFA
>
> When I open in a "new private window" it works opens up in the same size window and plays fine.
> So maybe a cookie problem.

Ditto. Interesting (Win10, FF). Thanks W/Dave, hadn't tried that before.

<snip>

Cheers,
Magani

On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 08:28:23 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> On 06/03/2022 02:14, Whisky-dave wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 1 March 2022 at 02:20:51 UTC, Savageduck wrote:
> >> It was a beautiful day down at Morro Bay today, except for some hefty wind. Fortunately the Air 2S was able to handle it.
> >>
> >> <https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4>
> >>
> >
> > Get gets stranger...
> > here at home
> > when I right click and open in "new tab" or open in "new window" I get blank aka SFA
> >
> > When I open in a "new private window" it works opens up in the same size window and plays fine.
> > So maybe a cookie problem.
> >
> > I'm guessing that will the same at work, but will have to wait until Monday for that.
> > So sort of sorted.
> Have you considered updating your iMac to macOS Monterey?

My personal one no not yet haven;t seen any real advantage in doing so
My one at work well it;s a mid 2011 and it;s at it's most recent you can have with high Sierra.
10.13.6

Now at work I get something different.

maybe FF updated over the weekend.

As everything now seems to be OK at work.
clicking the smugmug link opens, and when right clicking it does too.
Except with open in new tab when it stated auto play blocked.

>
> It works just fine for me - now on Version 12.2.1
>
> You could have your machine 'up and running' with it before lunchtime! ;-)

Last time I updated from sierra to high S. it took more than 45mins.

>
> --
> David

On Monday, 7 March 2022 at 13:22:40 UTC, Whisky-dave wrote:
> On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 08:28:23 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> > On 06/03/2022 02:14, Whisky-dave wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, 1 March 2022 at 02:20:51 UTC, Savageduck wrote:
> > >> It was a beautiful day down at Morro Bay today, except for some hefty wind. Fortunately the Air 2S was able to handle it.
> > >>
> > >> <https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4>
> > >>
> > >
> > > Get gets stranger...
> > > here at home
> > > when I right click and open in "new tab" or open in "new window" I get blank aka SFA
> > >
> > > When I open in a "new private window" it works opens up in the same size window and plays fine.
> > > So maybe a cookie problem.
> > >
> > > I'm guessing that will the same at work, but will have to wait until Monday for that.
> > > So sort of sorted.
> > Have you considered updating your iMac to macOS Monterey?
> My personal one no not yet haven;t seen any real advantage in doing so
> My one at work well it;s a mid 2011 and it;s at it's most recent you can have with high Sierra.
> 10.13.6
>
> Now at work I get something different.
>
> maybe FF updated over the weekend.

Version now 97.0.2 (64-bit)

think it was 97.0.1 (64-bit), thought I made a note of it, but where who knows.

As everything now seems to be OK at work.
clicking the smugmug link opens, and when right clicking it does too.
Except with open in new tab when it stated auto play blocked.

On 07/03/2022 13:22, Whisky-dave wrote:
> On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 08:28:23 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
>> On 06/03/2022 02:14, Whisky-dave wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 1 March 2022 at 02:20:51 UTC, Savageduck wrote:
>>>> It was a beautiful day down at Morro Bay today, except for some hefty wind. Fortunately the Air 2S was able to handle it.
>>>>
>>>> <https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Get gets stranger...
>>> here at home
>>> when I right click and open in "new tab" or open in "new window" I get blank aka SFA
>>>
>>> When I open in a "new private window" it works opens up in the same size window and plays fine.
>>> So maybe a cookie problem.
>>>
>>> I'm guessing that will the same at work, but will have to wait until Monday for that.
>>> So sort of sorted.
>> Have you considered updating your iMac to macOS Monterey?
>
> My personal one no not yet haven;t seen any real advantage in doing so
> My one at work well it;s a mid 2011 and it;s at it's most recent you can have with high Sierra.
> 10.13.6

I understand the limitations of running an obsolete computer! ;-)

https://www.macrumors.com/guide/vintage-and-obsolete/

> Now at work I get something different.
>
> maybe FF updated over the weekend.

Maybe. Maybe Apple itself changed something too.

> As everything now seems to be OK at work.
> clicking the smugmug link opens, and when right clicking it does too.

It's frustrating when one cannot pinpoint the reason for such a major
change.

I'd try scanning with Malwarebytes - the free facility.

> Except with open in new tab when it stated auto play blocked.

Sorry. I cannot help with that.

>> It works just fine for me - now on Version 12.2.1
>>
>> You could have your machine 'up and running' with it before lunchtime! ;-)
>
> Last time I updated from sierra to high S. it took more than 45mins.

It will take far longer than that to upgrade to macOS Monterey! ;-)

--
Kind regards,
David

On Monday, 7 March 2022 at 23:53:27 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> On 07/03/2022 13:22, Whisky-dave wrote:
> > On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 08:28:23 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> >> On 06/03/2022 02:14, Whisky-dave wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, 1 March 2022 at 02:20:51 UTC, Savageduck wrote:
> >>>> It was a beautiful day down at Morro Bay today, except for some hefty wind. Fortunately the Air 2S was able to handle it.
> >>>>
> >>>> <https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Get gets stranger...
> >>> here at home
> >>> when I right click and open in "new tab" or open in "new window" I get blank aka SFA
> >>>
> >>> When I open in a "new private window" it works opens up in the same size window and plays fine.
> >>> So maybe a cookie problem.
> >>>
> >>> I'm guessing that will the same at work, but will have to wait until Monday for that.
> >>> So sort of sorted.
> >> Have you considered updating your iMac to macOS Monterey?
> >
> > My personal one no not yet haven;t seen any real advantage in doing so
> > My one at work well it;s a mid 2011 and it;s at it's most recent you can have with high Sierra.
> > 10.13.6
> I understand the limitations of running an obsolete computer! ;-)
>
> https://www.macrumors.com/guide/vintage-and-obsolete/

Depends what you mean by obsolete, I still prefer simcity 2000 to the later versions.
I sometimes play a bit of starcraft on my G4 tower running OS9.2
and I'd like to resurrect 3 G3 computers the first iMacs to play networked carmaggedon on,
you can get it for the the iPhone and iPad but it's pretty difficult to control.

But I doubt my G3s will support ultimaker cura for 3D printing , doubt they'll be much good
for social media stuff either.

> > Now at work I get something different.
> >
> > maybe FF updated over the weekend.
> Maybe. Maybe Apple itself changed something too.

Nah I think it was FF, as I do manual updates and firefox was the only think I was prompted
to do restart for, I think it went from 97.0.1 (64-bit) to 97.0.2 (64-bit) released on 5th March.

> > As everything now seems to be OK at work.
> > clicking the smugmug link opens, and when right clicking it does too.
> It's frustrating when one cannot pinpoint the reason for such a major
> change.

Hardly major as smugmug was the only link I tried to open that didn't work,
but copy and pasted worked.
Seems tiktok had similar issues, now fixed. Bu not using tiktok so didn't care.

>
> I'd try scanning with Malwarebytes - the free facility.

Can't see the point it wasn't malware

> > Except with open in new tab when it stated auto play blocked.
> Sorry. I cannot help with that.
> >> It works just fine for me - now on Version 12.2.1
> >>
> >> You could have your machine 'up and running' with it before lunchtime! ;-)
> >
> > Last time I updated from sierra to high S. it took more than 45mins.
> It will take far longer than that to upgrade to macOS Monterey! ;-)

Yep and won't go to anything higher than high sierra anyway.

>
> --
> Kind regards,
> David

On 08/03/2022 13:33, Whisky-dave wrote:
> On Monday, 7 March 2022 at 23:53:27 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
>> On 07/03/2022 13:22, Whisky-dave wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 08:28:23 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
>>>> On 06/03/2022 02:14, Whisky-dave wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, 1 March 2022 at 02:20:51 UTC, Savageduck wrote:
>>>>>> It was a beautiful day down at Morro Bay today, except for some hefty wind. Fortunately the Air 2S was able to handle it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Get gets stranger...
>>>>> here at home
>>>>> when I right click and open in "new tab" or open in "new window" I get blank aka SFA
>>>>>
>>>>> When I open in a "new private window" it works opens up in the same size window and plays fine.
>>>>> So maybe a cookie problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm guessing that will the same at work, but will have to wait until Monday for that.
>>>>> So sort of sorted.
>>>> Have you considered updating your iMac to macOS Monterey?
>>>
>>> My personal one no not yet haven;t seen any real advantage in doing so
>>> My one at work well it;s a mid 2011 and it;s at it's most recent you can have with high Sierra.
>>> 10.13.6
>> I understand the limitations of running an obsolete computer! ;-)
>>
>> https://www.macrumors.com/guide/vintage-and-obsolete/
>
> Depends what you mean by obsolete, I still prefer simcity 2000 to the later versions.
> I sometimes play a bit of starcraft on my G4 tower running OS9.2
> and I'd like to resurrect 3 G3 computers the first iMacs to play networked carmaggedon on,
> you can get it for the the iPhone and iPad but it's pretty difficult to control.
>
> But I doubt my G3s will support ultimaker cura for 3D printing , doubt they'll be much good
> for social media stuff either.

Obsolete is an Apple expression as mentioned in the article.

"Obsolete products are those that have been discontinued for at least
seven years, and Apple does not provide any hardware service for these
products."

>>> Now at work I get something different.
>>>
>>> maybe FF updated over the weekend.
>> Maybe. Maybe Apple itself changed something too.
>
> Nah I think it was FF, as I do manual updates and firefox was the only think I was prompted
> to do restart for, I think it went from 97.0.1 (64-bit) to 97.0.2 (64-bit) released on 5th March.

I don't think your 'problem' has anything to do with Thunderbird.

>>> As everything now seems to be OK at work.
>>> clicking the smugmug link opens, and when right clicking it does too.
>> It's frustrating when one cannot pinpoint the reason for such a major
>> change.
>
> Hardly major as smugmug was the only link I tried to open that didn't work,
> but copy and pasted worked.
> Seems tiktok had similar issues, now fixed. Bu not using tiktok so didn't care.

Ha!

>> I'd try scanning with Malwarebytes - the free facility.
>
> Can't see the point it wasn't malware

You don't KNOW that!

Are you using an anti-malware software?

>>> Except with open in new tab when it stated auto play blocked.
>> Sorry. I cannot help with that.
>>>> It works just fine for me - now on Version 12.2.1
>>>>
>>>> You could have your machine 'up and running' with it before lunchtime! ;-)
>>>
>>> Last time I updated from sierra to high S. it took more than 45mins.
>> It will take far longer than that to upgrade to macOS Monterey! ;-)
>
> Yep and won't go to anything higher than high sierra anyway.

Understood.

On 08/03/2022 13:33, Whisky-dave wrote:
> On Monday, 7 March 2022 at 23:53:27 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
>> On 07/03/2022 13:22, Whisky-dave wrote:[....]
>>> Now at work I get something different.
>>>
>>> maybe FF updated over the weekend.
>> Maybe. Maybe Apple itself changed something too.
>
> Nah I think it was FF, as I do manual updates
Apple DOES do things without your input, Dave!

https://eclecticlight.co/2022/03/08/apple-has-pushed-an-update-to-mrt-11/

HTH clarify matters.

On Tuesday, 8 March 2022 at 17:44:16 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> On 08/03/2022 13:33, Whisky-dave wrote:
> > On Monday, 7 March 2022 at 23:53:27 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> >> On 07/03/2022 13:22, Whisky-dave wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 08:28:23 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> >>>> On 06/03/2022 02:14, Whisky-dave wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, 1 March 2022 at 02:20:51 UTC, Savageduck wrote:
> >>>>>> It was a beautiful day down at Morro Bay today, except for some hefty wind. Fortunately the Air 2S was able to handle it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2S-Work-2022/Air2S-Work-2022/i-32KTCR5/0/db3539d7/1920/Morro%20Bay%20February%2028%202022-1920.mp4>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Get gets stranger...
> >>>>> here at home
> >>>>> when I right click and open in "new tab" or open in "new window" I get blank aka SFA
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When I open in a "new private window" it works opens up in the same size window and plays fine.
> >>>>> So maybe a cookie problem.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm guessing that will the same at work, but will have to wait until Monday for that.
> >>>>> So sort of sorted.
> >>>> Have you considered updating your iMac to macOS Monterey?
> >>>
> >>> My personal one no not yet haven;t seen any real advantage in doing so
> >>> My one at work well it;s a mid 2011 and it;s at it's most recent you can have with high Sierra.
> >>> 10.13.6
> >> I understand the limitations of running an obsolete computer! ;-)
> >>
> >> https://www.macrumors.com/guide/vintage-and-obsolete/
> >
> > Depends what you mean by obsolete, I still prefer simcity 2000 to the later versions.
> > I sometimes play a bit of starcraft on my G4 tower running OS9.2
> > and I'd like to resurrect 3 G3 computers the first iMacs to play networked carmaggedon on,
> > you can get it for the the iPhone and iPad but it's pretty difficult to control.
> >
> > But I doubt my G3s will support ultimaker cura for 3D printing , doubt they'll be much good
> > for social media stuff either.
> Obsolete is an Apple expression as mentioned in the article.

Obsolete is defined in English dictonaires, I'm not letting Apple tell me what it means.

>
> "Obsolete products are those that have been discontinued for at least
> seven years, and Apple does not provide any hardware service for these
> products."
> >>> Now at work I get something different.
> >>>
> >>> maybe FF updated over the weekend.
> >> Maybe. Maybe Apple itself changed something too.
> >
> > Nah I think it was FF, as I do manual updates and firefox was the only think I was prompted
> > to do restart for, I think it went from 97.0.1 (64-bit) to 97.0.2 (64-bit) released on 5th March.
> I don't think your 'problem' has anything to do with Thunderbird.
> >>> As everything now seems to be OK at work.
> >>> clicking the smugmug link opens, and when right clicking it does too.
> >> It's frustrating when one cannot pinpoint the reason for such a major
> >> change.
> >
> > Hardly major as smugmug was the only link I tried to open that didn't work,
> > but copy and pasted worked.
> > Seems tiktok had similar issues, now fixed. Bu not using tiktok so didn't care.
> Ha!
> >> I'd try scanning with Malwarebytes - the free facility.
> >
> > Can't see the point it wasn't malware
> You don't KNOW that!

I don't KNOW if it was the spaghetti monster either but I rules that out too.
>
> Are you using an anti-malware software?

No

> >>> Except with open in new tab when it stated auto play blocked.
> >> Sorry. I cannot help with that.
> >>>> It works just fine for me - now on Version 12.2.1
> >>>>
> >>>> You could have your machine 'up and running' with it before lunchtime! ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Last time I updated from sierra to high S. it took more than 45mins.
> >> It will take far longer than that to upgrade to macOS Monterey! ;-)
> >
> > Yep and won't go to anything higher than high sierra anyway.
> Understood.

On Tuesday, 8 March 2022 at 23:34:48 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> On 08/03/2022 13:33, Whisky-dave wrote:
> > On Monday, 7 March 2022 at 23:53:27 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
> >> On 07/03/2022 13:22, Whisky-dave wrote:[....]
> >>> Now at work I get something different.
> >>>
> >>> maybe FF updated over the weekend.
> >> Maybe. Maybe Apple itself changed something too.
> >
> > Nah I think it was FF, as I do manual updates
> Apple DOES do things without your input, Dave!

So ?

Apple does not define how Firefox works or how it decides whether top open
a page or not depending on whther you right click in your browser.

>
> https://eclecticlight.co/2022/03/08/apple-has-pushed-an-update-to-mrt-11/
>

Yes and that click when clicked on opens as expected unlike the smugmug link.

> HTH clarify matters.