On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:50:29 PM UTC-8, Skybuck Flying wrote:
> What is the difference between these two network chips ?
>
> My main worry is "connection issues"... like Intel I225-V "Products formerly Foxville"...
>
> Which one is newer:
> Realtek RTL8125 or Realtek RTL8125BG ?
>
> I think the BG version/revision ? but not sure...

I would think that BG is newer than B, B is newer than A, A is newer than nothing .

Depending on your OS, for example:
"Linux support for the RTL 8125 is relatively new and newer revisions like RTL 8125B require a very new kernel. Linux 5.4.x is the first long term supported Linux kernel with support for the RTL 8125 chip. It supports the RTL 8125A, but it does not support RTL8125B. Support for RTL8125B was not introduced until Linux 5.9. "

https://linuxreviews.org/Realtek_RTL_8125

On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 4:06:56 PM UTC-8, Ed Lee wrote:
> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:50:29 PM UTC-8, Skybuck Flying wrote:
> > What is the difference between these two network chips ?
> >
> > My main worry is "connection issues"... like Intel I225-V "Products formerly Foxville"...
> >
> > Which one is newer:
> > Realtek RTL8125 or Realtek RTL8125BG ?
> >
> > I think the BG version/revision ? but not sure...
> I would think that BG is newer than B, B is newer than A, A is newer than nothing .
>
> Depending on your OS, for example:
> "Linux support for the RTL 8125 is relatively new and newer revisions like RTL 8125B require a very new kernel. Linux 5.4.x is the first long term supported Linux kernel with support for the RTL 8125 chip. It supports the RTL 8125A, but it does not support RTL8125B. Support for RTL8125B was not introduced until Linux 5.9. "
>
> https://linuxreviews.org/Realtek_RTL_8125

Speaking of driver hell with newer chips. I am trying to get the Intel 8260 (11bgn + BT5.0) working. It doesn't work with Linux 4.15. It works with 5.15, but 5.15 is massive (perhaps 5G bytes just for modules).

I got 3 older chips (Intel 5235, 7260 and BCM 4313) working under 4.15, but they are PCIe rather than M.2.

Anyone knows about Intel 3160, AX210 and BCM 94360? I can find them with M..2

On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 02:12:04 UTC, Ed Lee wrote:
> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 4:06:56 PM UTC-8, Ed Lee wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:50:29 PM UTC-8, Skybuck Flying wrote:
> > > What is the difference between these two network chips ?
> > >
> > > My main worry is "connection issues"... like Intel I225-V "Products formerly Foxville"...
> > >
> > > Which one is newer:
> > > Realtek RTL8125 or Realtek RTL8125BG ?
> > >
> > > I think the BG version/revision ? but not sure...
> > I would think that BG is newer than B, B is newer than A, A is newer than nothing .
> >
> > Depending on your OS, for example:
> > "Linux support for the RTL 8125 is relatively new and newer revisions like RTL 8125B require a very new kernel. Linux 5.4.x is the first long term supported Linux kernel with support for the RTL 8125 chip. It supports the RTL 8125A, but it does not support RTL8125B. Support for RTL8125B was not introduced until Linux 5.9. "
> >
> > https://linuxreviews.org/Realtek_RTL_8125
> Speaking of driver hell with newer chips. I am trying to get the Intel 8260 (11bgn + BT5.0) working. It doesn't work with Linux 4.15. It works with 5.15, but 5.15 is massive (perhaps 5G bytes just for modules).
>
> I got 3 older chips (Intel 5235, 7260 and BCM 4313) working under 4.15, but they are PCIe rather than M.2.
>
> Anyone knows about Intel 3160, AX210 and BCM 94360? I can find them with M.2

I am currently using an AX210 on a mini PCI-e card in an old Dell E5410 notebook PC. Intel
don't make such cards, but there are Chinese manufacturers who do. I'm running
Linux Mint Mate with kernel 5.19.0-28. Even with that much newer kernel, I do have one
problem. WiFi does not always restart after the computer comes out of hibernation. A full
power cycle usually, but not always fixes it. The Bluetooth part of the chip seems to be OK.
Otherwise, it works really well and is rock solid. Previously I used a 7260 and that was
completely stable, including coming out of hibernation reliably. When I have finished
experimenting with WiFi 6e in the 6GHz band I will probably return to using the 7260.
It doesn't connect at quite such a high speed as the AX210 (with equal bandwidths and
channels in each case), but it does always start up.
It is of course possible that I have a faulty chip...

Intel have a support page which lists which linux kernels and firmware drivers support
each of their WiFi chips.
https://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/support/articles/000005511/wireless.html

John

On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:57:15 AM UTC-8, John Walliker wrote:
> On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 02:12:04 UTC, Ed Lee wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 4:06:56 PM UTC-8, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:50:29 PM UTC-8, Skybuck Flying wrote:
> > > > What is the difference between these two network chips ?
> > > >
> > > > My main worry is "connection issues"... like Intel I225-V "Products formerly Foxville"...
> > > >
> > > > Which one is newer:
> > > > Realtek RTL8125 or Realtek RTL8125BG ?
> > > >
> > > > I think the BG version/revision ? but not sure...
> > > I would think that BG is newer than B, B is newer than A, A is newer than nothing .
> > >
> > > Depending on your OS, for example:
> > > "Linux support for the RTL 8125 is relatively new and newer revisions like RTL 8125B require a very new kernel. Linux 5.4.x is the first long term supported Linux kernel with support for the RTL 8125 chip. It supports the RTL 8125A, but it does not support RTL8125B. Support for RTL8125B was not introduced until Linux 5.9. "
> > >
> > > https://linuxreviews.org/Realtek_RTL_8125
> > Speaking of driver hell with newer chips. I am trying to get the Intel 8260 (11bgn + BT5.0) working. It doesn't work with Linux 4.15. It works with 5.15, but 5.15 is massive (perhaps 5G bytes just for modules).
> >
> > I got 3 older chips (Intel 5235, 7260 and BCM 4313) working under 4.15, but they are PCIe rather than M.2.
> >
> > Anyone knows about Intel 3160, AX210 and BCM 94360? I can find them with M.2
> I am currently using an AX210 on a mini PCI-e card in an old Dell E5410 notebook PC. Intel
> don't make such cards, but there are Chinese manufacturers who do. I'm running
> Linux Mint Mate with kernel 5.19.0-28. Even with that much newer kernel, I do have one
> problem. WiFi does not always restart after the computer comes out of hibernation. A full
> power cycle usually, but not always fixes it. The Bluetooth part of the chip seems to be OK.
> Otherwise, it works really well and is rock solid. Previously I used a 7260 and that was
> completely stable, including coming out of hibernation reliably. When I have finished
> experimenting with WiFi 6e in the 6GHz band I will probably return to using the 7260.
> It doesn't connect at quite such a high speed as the AX210 (with equal bandwidths and
> channels in each case), but it does always start up.
> It is of course possible that I have a faulty chip...
>
> Intel have a support page which lists which linux kernels and firmware drivers support
> each of their WiFi chips.
> https://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/support/articles/000005511/wireless.html

According to Intel, it should work at 4.1+. But it doesn't work on the default 4.10 on Mint 19 or 5.19 on Mint 22. I got it working with custom 5.19 on Mint 19, after manually stripping lib modules to fit in the 16G SSD. The default Mint 22 lib modules are 0.5G, but my complied one is 10x bigger. I must be missing a step between "make modules_install" and "make install"..

It's possible that the default Mint stripped too many files, perhaps the firmware.

BTW, it's a Dell E7470 with 8260 on M.2

I have to either downgrade the radio (for Mint 19) or upgrade the SSD (for Mint 22)

On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 11:12:30 UTC, Ed Lee wrote:
> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:57:15 AM UTC-8, John Walliker wrote:
> > On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 02:12:04 UTC, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 4:06:56 PM UTC-8, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:50:29 PM UTC-8, Skybuck Flying wrote:
> > > > > What is the difference between these two network chips ?
> > > > >
> > > > > My main worry is "connection issues"... like Intel I225-V "Products formerly Foxville"...
> > > > >
> > > > > Which one is newer:
> > > > > Realtek RTL8125 or Realtek RTL8125BG ?
> > > > >
> > > > > I think the BG version/revision ? but not sure...
> > > > I would think that BG is newer than B, B is newer than A, A is newer than nothing .
> > > >
> > > > Depending on your OS, for example:
> > > > "Linux support for the RTL 8125 is relatively new and newer revisions like RTL 8125B require a very new kernel. Linux 5.4.x is the first long term supported Linux kernel with support for the RTL 8125 chip. It supports the RTL 8125A, but it does not support RTL8125B. Support for RTL8125B was not introduced until Linux 5.9. "
> > > >
> > > > https://linuxreviews.org/Realtek_RTL_8125
> > > Speaking of driver hell with newer chips. I am trying to get the Intel 8260 (11bgn + BT5.0) working. It doesn't work with Linux 4.15. It works with 5.15, but 5.15 is massive (perhaps 5G bytes just for modules).
> > >
> > > I got 3 older chips (Intel 5235, 7260 and BCM 4313) working under 4.15, but they are PCIe rather than M.2.
> > >
> > > Anyone knows about Intel 3160, AX210 and BCM 94360? I can find them with M.2
> > I am currently using an AX210 on a mini PCI-e card in an old Dell E5410 notebook PC. Intel
> > don't make such cards, but there are Chinese manufacturers who do. I'm running
> > Linux Mint Mate with kernel 5.19.0-28. Even with that much newer kernel, I do have one
> > problem. WiFi does not always restart after the computer comes out of hibernation. A full
> > power cycle usually, but not always fixes it. The Bluetooth part of the chip seems to be OK.
> > Otherwise, it works really well and is rock solid. Previously I used a 7260 and that was
> > completely stable, including coming out of hibernation reliably. When I have finished
> > experimenting with WiFi 6e in the 6GHz band I will probably return to using the 7260.
> > It doesn't connect at quite such a high speed as the AX210 (with equal bandwidths and
> > channels in each case), but it does always start up.
> > It is of course possible that I have a faulty chip...
> >
> > Intel have a support page which lists which linux kernels and firmware drivers support
> > each of their WiFi chips.
> > https://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/support/articles/000005511/wireless.html
> According to Intel, it should work at 4.1+. But it doesn't work on the default 4.10 on Mint 19 or 5.19 on Mint 22. I got it working with custom 5.19 on Mint 19, after manually stripping lib modules to fit in the 16G SSD. The default Mint 22 lib modules are 0.5G, but my complied one is 10x bigger. I must be missing a step between "make modules_install" and "make install".
>
> It's possible that the default Mint stripped too many files, perhaps the firmware.
>
> BTW, it's a Dell E7470 with 8260 on M.2
>
> I have to either downgrade the radio (for Mint 19) or upgrade the SSD (for Mint 22)

An SSD upgrade seems much simpler than anything else. There are plenty of low-capacity
SSDs from reputable manufacturers for sale at give-away prices.

Anything less than about 120Gbyte counts as low capacity nowadays.

John