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* Tarim Basin mummies were ANE descendants from ice age SiberiaDD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves
+* Re: Tarim Basin mummies were ANE descendants from ice age SiberiaI Envy JTEM
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|     `* Re: Tarim Basin mummies were ANE descendants from ice age SiberiaI Envy JTEM
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Subject: Tarim Basin mummies were ANE descendants from ice age Siberia
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 by: DD'eDeN aka not - Thu, 28 Oct 2021 14:09 UTC

https://www.science.org/content/article/western-china-s-mysterious-mummies-were-local-descendants-ice-age-ancestors#.YXmmQw9MNmE.twitter

By Anne Gibbons

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DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
> https://www.science.org/content/article/western-china-s-mysterious-mummies-were-local-descendants-ice-age-ancestors#.YXmmQw9MNmE.twitter
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> By Anne Gibbons

The story is rubbish. They're related to people in Siberia and the Americas but
at the same time genetically isolated and didn't interbreed.

It's not saying what you think it says, and they are far too recent to be that
important to the peopling of the Americas.

Fact is, the closer you get to the present, the more DNA lines go extinct. It's
really not surprising that their DNA really only bears similarity to populations
which were isolated themselves. What would be surprising is if we expanded
the data, including samples from DNA representing the entire region, and we
didn't find a great more similar lines.

DNA just plain doesn't work the way the media tells us it works...

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 by: Primum Sapienti - Fri, 29 Oct 2021 03:48 UTC

DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
> https://www.science.org/content/article/western-china-s-mysterious-mummies-were-local-descendants-ice-age-ancestors#.YXmmQw9MNmE.twitter
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> By Anne Gibbons
>

"But a new study of the mummies’ DNA finds they were locals with deep
roots in the
region. Indeed, they appear to be relics of an ancient population that
disappeared in
Eurasia after the last ice age—one that was ancestral to Indigenous
peoples living in
Siberia and the Americas today.

"It’s “fantastic” to learn that these mummies were local Asians, says
Alison Betts, an
archaeologist of Scottish descent at the University of Sydney who was not
involved with
the work. "

Barber's very good 1999 "The Mummies of Urumchi" had little on DNA work as
the tools
weren't available yet.

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Primum Sapienti wrote:

[...]

Wow you really added a lot... NOT!

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On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 7:44:32 PM UTC-4, I Envy JTEM wrote:
> DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
> > https://www.science.org/content/article/western-china-s-mysterious-mummies-were-local-descendants-ice-age-ancestors#.YXmmQw9MNmE.twitter
> >
> > By Anne Gibbons
> The story is rubbish. They're related to people in Siberia and the Americas but
> at the same time genetically isolated and didn't interbreed.
>
> It's not saying what you think it says, and they are far too recent to be that
> important to the peopling of the Americas.
>
> Fact is, the closer you get to the present, the more DNA lines go extinct. It's
> really not surprising that their DNA really only bears similarity to populations
> which were isolated themselves. What would be surprising is if we expanded
> the data, including samples from DNA representing the entire region, and we
> didn't find a great more similar lines.
>
> DNA just plain doesn't work the way the media tells us it works...
>
>
>
>
>
> -- --
>
> https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/666225679575220224

Nothing about Americas, brainfart.

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On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 2:52:10 AM UTC-4, I Envy JTEM wrote:
> Primum Sapienti wrote:
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Says the brainfart.

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DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:

> Says the brainfart.

Hmm. So you think that mentioning that a 22 year old paper lacked
the DNA claims is adding a lot to the topic? Wow. You wish you
had a brain to fart...

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On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 4:14:04 AM UTC-4, I Envy JTEM wrote:
> DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
> > Says the brainfart.
>
> Hmm. So you think that mentioning that a 22 year old paper lacked
> the DNA claims is adding a lot to the topic? Wow. You wish you
> had a brain to fart...
>
>
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> https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/666225679575220224
I did not mention America, you did. Stop being stupid. The topic refers to the mummies of the Tarim basin not the dummies of SAP, brainfart.

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DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:

> I did not mention America,

Your cite did.

> you did.

Your cite did. Your cite, the one I was commenting on. Your cite.

You didn't read it, did you? Or where you covering over that part with your
domeshield?

> Stop being stupid.

You are hilariously ignorant.

> The topic refers to the mummies of the Tarim basin not the dummies of SAP, brainfart.

Try the second paragraph. IN YOUR CITE. Ask a grownup to help you count.

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On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 7:44:32 PM UTC-4, I Envy JTEM wrote:
> DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
> > https://www.science.org/content/article/western-china-s-mysterious-mummies-were-local-descendants-ice-age-ancestors#.YXmmQw9MNmE.twitter
> >
> > By Anne Gibbons
> The story is rubbish. They're related to people in Siberia and the Americas but
> at the same time genetically isolated and didn't interbreed.

Their common ancestors did. How can you not get that?

> It's not saying what you think it says,

That's not even not funny. Psych. projecting is beyond your ken

and they are far too recent to be that
> important to the peopling of the Americas.

Common ancestry.
>
> Fact is, the closer you get to the present, the more DNA lines go extinct. It's
> really not surprising that their DNA really only bears similarity to populations
> which were isolated themselves. What would be surprising is if we expanded
> the data, including samples from DNA representing the entire region, and we
> didn't find a great more similar lines.
>
> DNA just plain doesn't work the way the media tells us it works...
>
> -- --
>
> https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/666225679575220224

Your confusion is uncalled for.

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On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 11:48:47 PM UTC-4, Primum Sapienti wrote:
> DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
> > https://www.science.org/content/article/western-china-s-mysterious-mummies-were-local-descendants-ice-age-ancestors#.YXmmQw9MNmE.twitter
> >
> > By Anne Gibbons
> >
> "But a new study of the mummies’ DNA finds they were locals with deep
> roots in the
> region. Indeed, they appear to be relics of an ancient population that
> disappeared in
> Eurasia after the last ice age—one that was ancestral to Indigenous
> peoples living in
> Siberia and the Americas today.
>
> "It’s “fantastic” to learn that these mummies were local Asians, says
> Alison Betts, an
> archaeologist of Scottish descent at the University of Sydney who was not
> involved with
> the work. "
>
> Barber's very good 1999 "The Mummies of Urumchi" had little on DNA work as
> the tools
> weren't available yet.

Yes. Much ado about weaves. I like the deeper focus on the buffalo boat coffins, this culture was at least part-time maritime despite being inland desert dwellers. There is a link to the kudru bowl boats of Tibet, made with wicker and greased buffalo skin.

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DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:

> That's not even not funny. Psych. projecting is beyond your ken
> and they are far too recent to be that

You had no idea what it even said. You didn't bother to read it before posting. You
accused me of inventing the connection to the Americas, you were so busy catching
trout with your domeshield...

> Your confusion is uncalled for.

I'm not confused. You didn't even bother to read your own cite before posting it,
and that's hilarious.

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On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 2:55:56 AM UTC-4, I Envy JTEM wrote:
> DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
>
> > That's not even not funny. Psych. projecting is beyond your ken
> > and they are far too recent to be that
> You had no idea what it even said. You didn't bother to read it before posting. You
> accused me of inventing the connection to the Americas, you were so busy catching
> trout with your domeshield...
> > Your confusion is uncalled for.
> I'm not confused. You didn't even bother to read your own cite before posting it,
> and that's hilarious.
>
>
>
>
> -- --
>
> https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/666444340305018880

I can lead an ass to water, but I can't stop it from pissing in it.

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DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:

> I can lead an ass

You need to remove your head from it. I mean, you didn't even bother to
read your own cite before posting it!

That's hilarious!

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On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 2:30:57 PM UTC-4, I Envy JTEM wrote:
> DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
>
> > I can lead an ass
> You need to remove your head from it. I mean, you didn't even bother to
> read your own cite before posting it!
>
> That's hilarious!
>
>
>
>
> -- --
>
> https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/666444340305018880

^ JERM's homo-erotica ^

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 by: I Envy JTEM - Mon, 1 Nov 2021 05:52 UTC

DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:

> ^ JERM's

You didn't even read your own cite, even hanged yourself on your own rope
of ignorance by insisting that there was nothing about the Americas and
it was all a brainfart... you never even reached two paragraphs into your
own cite, you're THAT ignorant...

This isn't going to go away. No pathetic attempts at your (f)Lamming is
going to change this fact: You never read your own cite before posting
it, and you rudely defended your ignorance on the matter.

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https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/666444340305018880

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Subject: Re: Tarim Basin mummies were ANE descendants from ice age Siberia
From: daud.de...@gmail.com (DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves)
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 by: DD'eDeN aka not - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 09:46 UTC

On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 1:52:50 AM UTC-4, I Envy JTEM wrote:
> DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
> > ^ JERM's
>
> You didn't even read your own cite, even hanged yourself on your own rope
> of ignorance by insisting that there was nothing about the Americas and
> it was all a brainfart... you never even reached two paragraphs into your
> own cite, you're THAT ignorant...
>
> This isn't going to go away. No pathetic attempts at your (f)Lamming is
> going to change this fact: You never read your own cite before posting
> it, and you rudely defended your ignorance on the matter.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- --
>
> https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/666444340305018880
JERM tumbled again.

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Subject: Re: Tarim Basin mummies were ANE descendants from ice age Siberia
From: jte...@gmail.com (I Envy JTEM)
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 by: I Envy JTEM - Thu, 4 Nov 2021 05:21 UTC

DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:

[...]

You're embarrassed by your stupid mistake. Well, getting caught
anyway.

You posted a cite you never even read, much less understood and
got caught after displaying your ignorance of it's content.

Now you can't emotionally deal with your exposure so you're playing
this OCD game in order to distract from your stupid mistake.

It can't work. It's highlighting your stupid mistake. It's reminding you,
the only audience you care about, about your stupid mistake.

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Subject: Re: Tarim Basin mummies were ANE descendants from ice age Siberia
From: daud.de...@gmail.com (DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves)
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 by: DD'eDeN aka not - Thu, 4 Nov 2021 05:41 UTC

On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 1:21:18 AM UTC-4, I Envy JTEM wrote:
> DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
> [...]
>
> You're embarrassed by your stupid mistake. Well, getting caught
> anyway.
>
> You posted a cite you never even read, much less understood and
> got caught after displaying your ignorance of it's content.
>
> Now you can't emotionally deal with your exposure so you're playing
> this OCD game in order to distract from your stupid mistake.
>
> It can't work. It's highlighting your stupid mistake. It's reminding you,
> the only audience you care about, about your stupid mistake.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- --
>
> https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/666789124141940736
I can lead an ass to water...

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