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Finite isn't dark but zero is...

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 by: Efftard K. Donglemei - Fri, 21 Oct 2022 19:34 UTC

On 10/21/2022 12:18 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> Finite isn't dark but zero is...

Shut up imbecile.

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Fri, 21 Oct 2022 19:55 UTC

On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 12:34:53 PM UTC-7, Efftard K. Donglemeier wrote:
> On 10/21/2022 12:18 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Finite isn't dark but zero is...
> Shut up imbecile.

The liar lies and it is not me... it is you...
Go away...

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 by: Sergi o - Fri, 21 Oct 2022 20:50 UTC

On 10/21/2022 2:18 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> Finite isn't dark but zero is...

remove dark by light

light comes from flashlights

zero flashlight means the batteries are dead.

zero causes dark.

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Fri, 21 Oct 2022 21:21 UTC

On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:50:50 PM UTC-7, Sergi o wrote:
> On 10/21/2022 2:18 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Finite isn't dark but zero is...
> remove dark by light
>

Zero is primary dark no quantity... with sub finite above...

> light comes from flashlights
>
> zero flashlight means the batteries are dead.
>
> zero causes dark.

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 by: Jim Burns - Fri, 21 Oct 2022 21:49 UTC

On 10/21/2022 3:18 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Finite isn't dark but zero is...

Something to know for trivia contests:

| Certain systems can achieve negative thermodynamic
| temperature; that is, their temperature can be
| expressed as a negative quantity on the Kelvin or
| Rankine scales. This should be distinguished from
| temperatures expressed as negative numbers on
| non-thermodynamic Celsius or Fahrenheit scales,
| which are nevertheless higher than absolute zero.

| Bounded phase space is the essential property that
| allows for negative temperatures, and can occur in
| both classical and quantum systems.

| A system with a truly negative temperature on the
| Kelvin scale is _hotter_ than any system with a
| positive temperature. If a negative-temperature
| system and a positive-temperature system come in
| contact, heat will flow from the negative- to the
| positive-temperature system. A standard example of
| such a system is population inversion in laser physics.

| The paradox is resolved by considering the more
| rigorous definition of thermodynamic temperature as
| the tradeoff between internal energy and entropy
| contained in the system, with "coldness", the
| _reciprocal_ of temperature, being the more fundamental
| quantity. Systems with a positive temperature will
| increase in entropy as one adds energy to the system,
| while systems with a negative temperature will decrease
| in entropy as one adds energy to the system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Fri, 21 Oct 2022 21:58 UTC

On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 2:49:16 PM UTC-7, Jim Burns wrote:
> On 10/21/2022 3:18 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Finite isn't dark but zero is...
> Something to know for trivia contests:
>
> | Certain systems can achieve negative thermodynamic
> | temperature; that is, their temperature can be
> | expressed as a negative quantity on the Kelvin or

Jim? You are using man's relative zeroes.
Temperature is everywhere above absolute zero.
Heat density is with every atom.

Mitchell Raemsch

> | Rankine scales. This should be distinguished from
> | temperatures expressed as negative numbers on
> | non-thermodynamic Celsius or Fahrenheit scales,
> | which are nevertheless higher than absolute zero.
>
> | Bounded phase space is the essential property that
> | allows for negative temperatures, and can occur in
> | both classical and quantum systems.
>
> | A system with a truly negative temperature on the
> | Kelvin scale is _hotter_ than any system with a
> | positive temperature. If a negative-temperature
> | system and a positive-temperature system come in
> | contact, heat will flow from the negative- to the
> | positive-temperature system. A standard example of
> | such a system is population inversion in laser physics.
>
> | The paradox is resolved by considering the more
> | rigorous definition of thermodynamic temperature as
> | the tradeoff between internal energy and entropy
> | contained in the system, with "coldness", the
> | _reciprocal_ of temperature, being the more fundamental
> | quantity. Systems with a positive temperature will
> | increase in entropy as one adds energy to the system,
> | while systems with a negative temperature will decrease
> | in entropy as one adds energy to the system.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature

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 by: Jim Burns - Fri, 21 Oct 2022 22:38 UTC

On 10/21/2022 5:58 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, October 21, 2022
> at 2:49:16 PM UTC-7, Jim Burns wrote:
>> On 10/21/2022 3:18 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Finite isn't dark but zero is...
>> Something to know for trivia contests:
>>
>> | Certain systems can achieve negative thermodynamic
>> | temperature; that is, their temperature can be
>> | expressed as a negative quantity on the Kelvin or
>
>
> Jim? You are using man's relative zeroes.
> Temperature is everywhere above absolute zero.
> Heat density is with every atom.

No, I'm not doing that. Keep reading.
Kelvin and Rankin scales are absolute scales.

On the other hand,
negative absolute temperatures are _hotter_
than positive absolute temperatures.

Energy flows spontaneously in the direction
that most increases entropy.

A physical systems with a negative temperature
_decreases_ its entropy when energy flows
into it. Energy will flow out of it to any
positive-temperature system. That is what
we mean by "hotter": energy flows to the colder.

>> | Rankine scales. This should be distinguished from
>> | temperatures expressed as negative numbers on
>> | non-thermodynamic Celsius or Fahrenheit scales,
>> | which are nevertheless higher than absolute zero.
>>
>> | Bounded phase space is the essential property that
>> | allows for negative temperatures, and can occur in
>> | both classical and quantum systems.
>>
>> | A system with a truly negative temperature on the
>> | Kelvin scale is _hotter_ than any system with a
>> | positive temperature. If a negative-temperature
>> | system and a positive-temperature system come in
>> | contact, heat will flow from the negative- to the
>> | positive-temperature system. A standard example of
>> | such a system is population inversion in laser physics.
>>
>> | The paradox is resolved by considering the more
>> | rigorous definition of thermodynamic temperature as
>> | the tradeoff between internal energy and entropy
>> | contained in the system, with "coldness", the
>> | _reciprocal_ of temperature, being the more fundamental
>> | quantity. Systems with a positive temperature will
>> | increase in entropy as one adds energy to the system,
>> | while systems with a negative temperature will decrease
>> | in entropy as one adds energy to the system.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature

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 by: Sergi o - Fri, 21 Oct 2022 22:48 UTC

On 10/21/2022 4:21 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:50:50 PM UTC-7, Sergi o wrote:
>> On 10/21/2022 2:18 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Finite isn't dark but zero is...
>> remove dark by light
>>
>
> Zero is primary dark no quantity... with sub finite above...

yep, bad batteries

>
>> light comes from flashlights
>>
>> zero flashlight means the batteries are dead.
>>
>> zero causes dark.

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 by: Sergi o - Fri, 21 Oct 2022 22:51 UTC

On 10/21/2022 5:38 PM, Jim Burns wrote:
> On 10/21/2022 5:58 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Friday, October 21, 2022
>> at 2:49:16 PM UTC-7, Jim Burns wrote:
>>> On 10/21/2022 3:18 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Finite isn't dark but zero is...
>>> Something to know for trivia contests:
>>>
>>> | Certain systems can achieve negative thermodynamic
>>> | temperature; that is, their temperature can be
>>> | expressed as a negative quantity on the Kelvin or
>>
>>
>> Jim? You are using man's relative zeroes.
>> Temperature is everywhere above absolute zero.
>> Heat density is with every atom.
>
> No, I'm not doing that. Keep reading.
> Kelvin and Rankin scales are absolute scales.
>
> On the other hand,
> negative absolute temperatures are _hotter_
> than positive absolute temperatures.
>
> Energy flows spontaneously in the direction
> that most increases entropy.
>
> A physical systems with a negative temperature
> _decreases_ its entropy when energy flows
> into it. Energy will flow out of it to any
> positive-temperature system. That is what
> we mean by "hotter": energy flows to the colder.
>
>>> | Rankine scales. This should be distinguished from
>>> | temperatures expressed as negative numbers on
>>> | non-thermodynamic Celsius or Fahrenheit scales,
>>> | which are nevertheless higher than absolute zero.
>>>
>>> | Bounded phase space is the essential property that
>>> | allows for negative temperatures, and can occur in
>>> | both classical and quantum systems.
>>>
>>> | A system with a truly negative temperature on the
>>> | Kelvin scale is _hotter_ than any system with a
>>> | positive temperature. If a negative-temperature
>>> | system and a positive-temperature system come in
>>> | contact, heat will flow from the negative- to the
>>> | positive-temperature system. A standard example of
>>> | such a system is population inversion in laser physics.
>>>
>>> | The paradox is resolved by considering the more
>>> | rigorous definition of thermodynamic temperature as
>>> | the tradeoff between internal energy and entropy
>>> | contained in the system, with "coldness", the
>>> | _reciprocal_ of temperature, being the more fundamental
>>> | quantity. Systems with a positive temperature will
>>> | increase in entropy as one adds energy to the system,
>>> | while systems with a negative temperature will decrease
>>> | in entropy as one adds energy to the system.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature
>

Absolute Temperature is the temperature of the Absolute Atom.

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