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 by: Fred Bloggs - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 18:19 UTC

People a century ago must have been vegetables.

Cognitive abilities declined between 2006 and 2018 across three of four broad domains of intelligence, the study found. Researchers tracked falling scores in logic, vocabulary, visual and mathematical problem-solving and analogies, the latter category familiar to anyone who took the old SAT.

The 2016 election results indicate just how far they fell.

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3922608-american-iqs-rose-30-points-in-the-last-century-now-they-may-be-falling/

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 by: John Larkin - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 19:04 UTC

On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 11:19:30 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>People a century ago must have been vegetables.
>
>Cognitive abilities declined between 2006 and 2018 across three of four broad domains of intelligence, the study found. Researchers tracked falling scores in logic, vocabulary, visual and mathematical problem-solving and analogies, the latter category familiar to anyone who took the old SAT.
>
>The 2016 election results indicate just how far they fell.
>
>https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3922608-american-iqs-rose-30-points-in-the-last-century-now-they-may-be-falling/

Immigration probably reduces tested IQ scores, because English fluency
and early education matter on tests.

Video games and cell phones and woke education don't help either.

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 by: Ralph Mowery - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 20:47 UTC

In article <8863be3f-5433-4de0-9d4a-8226c2db5001n@googlegroups.com>,
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com says...
>
> People a century ago must have been vegetables.
>
> Cognitive abilities declined between 2006 and 2018 across three of four broad domains of intelligence, the study found. Researchers tracked falling scores in logic, vocabulary, visual and mathematical problem-solving and analogies, the latter category familiar to anyone who took the old SAT.
>
> The 2016 election results indicate just how far they fell.
>
> https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3922608-american-iqs-rose-30-points-in-the-last-century-now-they-may-be-falling/
>
>

I can see why the average rose up to around 1940. The dumb ones did not
survive. After that we started looking out for the dumb people and they
bread fast and poluted the IQ pool.

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 20:50 UTC

On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 3:04:16 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 11:19:30 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >People a century ago must have been vegetables.
> >
> >Cognitive abilities declined between 2006 and 2018 across three of four broad domains of intelligence, the study found. Researchers tracked falling scores in logic, vocabulary, visual and mathematical problem-solving and analogies, the latter category familiar to anyone who took the old SAT.
> >
> >The 2016 election results indicate just how far they fell.
> >
> >https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3922608-american-iqs-rose-30-points-in-the-last-century-now-they-may-be-falling/
> Immigration probably reduces tested IQ scores, because English fluency
> and early education matter on tests.
>
> Video games and cell phones and woke education don't help either.

That was originally my thinking. But did you read the part about the average IQ of today would be in the top 5% of times past? Up to about 1900, the standard of literacy was the ability to sign your name. Sounds weak but almost everyone was doing menial labor back then, so it was good enough.

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 20:52 UTC

On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 4:47:40 PM UTC-4, Ralph Mowery wrote:
> In article <8863be3f-5433-4de0...@googlegroups.com>,
> bloggs.fred...@gmail.com says...
> >
> > People a century ago must have been vegetables.
> >
> > Cognitive abilities declined between 2006 and 2018 across three of four broad domains of intelligence, the study found. Researchers tracked falling scores in logic, vocabulary, visual and mathematical problem-solving and analogies, the latter category familiar to anyone who took the old SAT.
> >
> > The 2016 election results indicate just how far they fell.
> >
> > https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3922608-american-iqs-rose-30-points-in-the-last-century-now-they-may-be-falling/
> >
> >
> I can see why the average rose up to around 1940. The dumb ones did not
> survive. After that we started looking out for the dumb people and they
> bread fast and poluted the IQ pool.

LOL- I think dumb people survived better back in the day because there was plenty of work to employ them. These days they either go on welfare or starve- they can't be employed for the simplest little thing.

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 by: Ralph Mowery - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 22:11 UTC

In article <a2023395-4f3a-4ad3-bb4a-8fa0c1090352n@googlegroups.com>,
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com says...
>
> That was originally my thinking. But did you read the part about the average IQ of today would be in the top 5% of times past? Up to about 1900, the standard of literacy was the ability to sign your name. Sounds weak but almost everyone was doing menial labor back then, so it was good enough.
>
>

IQ tests that test things you are familiar with do not really test you.
My dad who was born in 1920 was very good at working with his hands. He
worked as an appliance repair man. Could repair lawn mowers and do
plumbing and wiring a house. He did not know how to write a check or
that each branch of a bank was the same bank. Mother was a book keeper
and handled all the money. Dad would ask her if they had the money to
do something and if they did she would give him the money. Dad had to
have a higher than normal IQ to do all that but he had very book
learning.

Take almost anyone that lives in a town and doubt they could go out,
shoot a rabbit and skin and cook it.

I like the joke where someone from out of the big city ask what does a
pig say ? Hands up MF.

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 by: Lasse Langwadt Chris - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 22:16 UTC

fredag den 31. marts 2023 kl. 00.11.22 UTC+2 skrev Ralph Mowery:
> In article <a2023395-4f3a-4ad3...@googlegroups.com>,
> bloggs.fred...@gmail.com says...
> >
> > That was originally my thinking. But did you read the part about the average IQ of today would be in the top 5% of times past? Up to about 1900, the standard of literacy was the ability to sign your name. Sounds weak but almost everyone was doing menial labor back then, so it was good enough.
> >
> >
> IQ tests that test things you are familiar with do not really test you.
> My dad who was born in 1920 was very good at working with his hands. He
> worked as an appliance repair man. Could repair lawn mowers and do
> plumbing and wiring a house. He did not know how to write a check or
> that each branch of a bank was the same bank. Mother was a book keeper
> and handled all the money. Dad would ask her if they had the money to
> do something and if they did she would give him the money. Dad had to
> have a higher than normal IQ to do all that but he had very book
> learning.
>
> Take almost anyone that lives in a town and doubt they could go out,
> shoot a rabbit and skin and cook it.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ESgUqeexZ0U

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 by: John Larkin - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 22:31 UTC

On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 13:50:12 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 3:04:16?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 11:19:30 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >People a century ago must have been vegetables.
>> >
>> >Cognitive abilities declined between 2006 and 2018 across three of four broad domains of intelligence, the study found. Researchers tracked falling scores in logic, vocabulary, visual and mathematical problem-solving and analogies, the latter category familiar to anyone who took the old SAT.
>> >
>> >The 2016 election results indicate just how far they fell.
>> >
>> >https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3922608-american-iqs-rose-30-points-in-the-last-century-now-they-may-be-falling/
>> Immigration probably reduces tested IQ scores, because English fluency
>> and early education matter on tests.
>>
>> Video games and cell phones and woke education don't help either.
>
>That was originally my thinking. But did you read the part about the average IQ of today would be in the top 5% of times past? Up to about 1900, the standard of literacy was the ability to sign your name. Sounds weak but almost everyone was doing menial labor back then, so it was good enough.

An IQ test is largely a reading comprehension test. And measured IQ
improves with practise taking the tests.

We took the SAT multiple times in high school, and improved with
experience. One becomes test wise. I scored 800 math and 720 verbal,
mostly from practise.

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Fri, 31 Mar 2023 00:47 UTC

On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 6:11:22 PM UTC-4, Ralph Mowery wrote:
> In article <a2023395-4f3a-4ad3...@googlegroups.com>,
> bloggs.fred...@gmail.com says...
> >
> > That was originally my thinking. But did you read the part about the average IQ of today would be in the top 5% of times past? Up to about 1900, the standard of literacy was the ability to sign your name. Sounds weak but almost everyone was doing menial labor back then, so it was good enough.
> >
> >
> IQ tests that test things you are familiar with do not really test you.
> My dad who was born in 1920 was very good at working with his hands. He
> worked as an appliance repair man. Could repair lawn mowers and do
> plumbing and wiring a house. He did not know how to write a check or
> that each branch of a bank was the same bank. Mother was a book keeper
> and handled all the money. Dad would ask her if they had the money to
> do something and if they did she would give him the money. Dad had to
> have a higher than normal IQ to do all that but he had very book
> learning.

Those were the days. Things have changed considerably.

>
> Take almost anyone that lives in a town and doubt they could go out,
> shoot a rabbit and skin and cook it.

I "skinned" a rabbit once. You split its asshole open and pull the skin right off it like a glove , all in one go.

I wouldn't eat a wild caught rabbit these days though. Too much disease floating around.

I've talked to some old timers living in the country during the Depression era. Almost all of them couldn't afford even the price of ammunition, so they hunted small game by throwing rocks. They got pretty good at it too. If the game is a meal, and you're hungry, you will be surprised at how good you get at throwing rocks.

>
> I like the joke where someone from out of the big city ask what does a
> pig say ? Hands up MF.

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 by: bitrex - Fri, 31 Mar 2023 00:56 UTC

On 3/30/2023 3:04 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 11:19:30 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> People a century ago must have been vegetables.
>>
>> Cognitive abilities declined between 2006 and 2018 across three of four broad domains of intelligence, the study found. Researchers tracked falling scores in logic, vocabulary, visual and mathematical problem-solving and analogies, the latter category familiar to anyone who took the old SAT.
>>
>> The 2016 election results indicate just how far they fell.
>>
>> https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3922608-american-iqs-rose-30-points-in-the-last-century-now-they-may-be-falling/
>
> Immigration probably reduces tested IQ scores, because English fluency
> and early education matter on tests.
>
> Video games and cell phones and woke education don't help either.
>

Throwing the buzzword "woke" around helps compensate for the modern
conservative's lack of any coherent or consistent ideas about anything.

Good ol' witch-hunting (with the transgender population serving as
today's witches) and red-baiting will have to do.

What isn't "woke" if you think about it. I got ripped off at the store
the other day, must have been a woke cashier. Hey and ever notice how
new car designs are becoming pretty woke, lately? Will the radical left
ever be satisfied

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Fri, 31 Mar 2023 00:57 UTC

On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 6:31:55 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 13:50:12 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 3:04:16?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> >> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 11:19:30 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >People a century ago must have been vegetables.
> >> >
> >> >Cognitive abilities declined between 2006 and 2018 across three of four broad domains of intelligence, the study found. Researchers tracked falling scores in logic, vocabulary, visual and mathematical problem-solving and analogies, the latter category familiar to anyone who took the old SAT.
> >> >
> >> >The 2016 election results indicate just how far they fell.
> >> >
> >> >https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3922608-american-iqs-rose-30-points-in-the-last-century-now-they-may-be-falling/
> >> Immigration probably reduces tested IQ scores, because English fluency
> >> and early education matter on tests.
> >>
> >> Video games and cell phones and woke education don't help either.
> >
> >That was originally my thinking. But did you read the part about the average IQ of today would be in the top 5% of times past? Up to about 1900, the standard of literacy was the ability to sign your name. Sounds weak but almost everyone was doing menial labor back then, so it was good enough.
> An IQ test is largely a reading comprehension test. And measured IQ
> improves with practise taking the tests.
>
> We took the SAT multiple times in high school, and improved with
> experience. One becomes test wise. I scored 800 math and 720 verbal,
> mostly from practise.

Yeah, the whole thing is just a selection process, for lack of anything better. There has to be a time element to it too. If they make it a take home test, everybody would be a genius. Interestingly, setting a time limit is standard deviation amplification, it really makes the results scatter all over the place.

The practice tests are to familiarize you with the types of questions you'll be asked, so you don't have to waste valuable time figuring out an approach to something you haven't seen before, thereby somewhat defeating the time constraint of IQ testing. SAT is more of a proficiency test.

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Fri, 31 Mar 2023 01:04 UTC

On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 8:56:22 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
> On 3/30/2023 3:04 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 11:19:30 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> > <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> People a century ago must have been vegetables.
> >>
> >> Cognitive abilities declined between 2006 and 2018 across three of four broad domains of intelligence, the study found. Researchers tracked falling scores in logic, vocabulary, visual and mathematical problem-solving and analogies, the latter category familiar to anyone who took the old SAT.
> >>
> >> The 2016 election results indicate just how far they fell.
> >>
> >> https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3922608-american-iqs-rose-30-points-in-the-last-century-now-they-may-be-falling/
> >
> > Immigration probably reduces tested IQ scores, because English fluency
> > and early education matter on tests.
> >
> > Video games and cell phones and woke education don't help either.
> >
> Throwing the buzzword "woke" around helps compensate for the modern
> conservative's lack of any coherent or consistent ideas about anything.
>
> Good ol' witch-hunting (with the transgender population serving as
> today's witches) and red-baiting will have to do.
>
> What isn't "woke" if you think about it. I got ripped off at the store
> the other day, must have been a woke cashier. Hey and ever notice how
> new car designs are becoming pretty woke, lately? Will the radical left
> ever be satisfied

The moron DeSantis is going after this woke college in Florida, they have an elevated performance record of academic achievement, so it must be destroyed:

https://apnews.com/article/ron-desantis-new-college-florida-woke-15d61ab52724dc447ba6d03238f7719e

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On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 10:51:57 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 5:19:34 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > People a century ago must have been vegetables.
> >
> > Cognitive abilities declined between 2006 and 2018 across three of four broad domains of intelligence, the study found. Researchers tracked falling scores in logic, vocabulary, visual and mathematical problem-solving and analogies, the latter category familiar to anyone who took the old SAT.
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> > The 2016 election results indicate just how far they fell.
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> > https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3922608-american-iqs-rose-30-points-in-the-last-century-now-they-may-be-falling/
> Old news.
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
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> Flynn's take on it was that it was mainly reflected an improved understanding of what the tests were about in the people taking them.
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> Not so much improved intelligence as improved familiarity with the tests.

Psychologists organize this kind of testing into three categories of aptitude, achievement, and general intelligence. Aptitude testing is mainly used to test the 'potential' for successfully learning a more specific skill. Achievement, the 'A' in SAT, tests how much and how well you learned in school in preparation for higher education, and that makes sense. The so-called IQ testing is a broader form of testing and , unlike the previous two which are used for selection or admissions processing, doesn't seem to actually be used for anything- except maybe strict medical application to diagnose cognitive decline.

There should be plenty of evidence to establish a very positive correlation between good performance on aptitude and achievement tests with successful and satisfactory completion of the programs the people were admitted to, I would think. Which is what you want, to avoid wasting time, space, and other resources on a lump of coal who doesn't have a chance in hell of amounting to anything. Although in U.S. there are plenty of money-making enterprises that try to do this, with either ridiculously low graduation rates on the order of 5%, or totally fraudulent standards of success.

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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 10:13:46 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: American IQs rose 30 points in the last century. Now, they may be falling.
From: bloggs.f...@gmail.com (Fred Bloggs)
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 by: Fred Bloggs - Fri, 31 Mar 2023 17:13 UTC

On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 11:39:45 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 11:59:35 PM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 10:51:57 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> > > On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 5:19:34 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > > > People a century ago must have been vegetables.
> > > >
> > > > Cognitive abilities declined between 2006 and 2018 across three of four broad domains of intelligence, the study found. Researchers tracked falling scores in logic, vocabulary, visual and mathematical problem-solving and analogies, the latter category familiar to anyone who took the old SAT.
> > > >
> > > > The 2016 election results indicate just how far they fell.
> > > >
> > > > https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3922608-american-iqs-rose-30-points-in-the-last-century-now-they-may-be-falling/
> > > Old news.
> > >
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
> > >
> > > Flynn's take on it was that it was mainly reflected an improved understanding of what the tests were about in the people taking them.
> > >
> > > Not so much improved intelligence as improved familiarity with the tests.
> <snipped Fred pretending to know what he is talking about>

I know how to listen to people who do rather than allowing overconfidentia to mislead me as happens to a certain somebody else around here:

https://www.verywellmind.com/how-are-scores-on-iq-tests-calculated-2795584

https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-an-aptitude-test-2794806

> >
> > There should be plenty of evidence to establish a very positive correlation between good performance on aptitude and achievement tests with successful and satisfactory completion of the programs the people were admitted to, I would think.
> People have been looking for years. The correlations aren't strong.

College board says otherwise, stating SAT scores are "highly predictive"

https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/national-sat-validity-study-overview-admissions-enrollment-leaders.pdf

> > Which is what you want, to avoid wasting time, space, and other resources on a lump of coal who doesn't have a chance in hell of amounting to anything.
> That the aim. Pencil and paper IQ tests don't do it very well at all buyt they are quick and cheap.
> > Although in U.S. there are plenty of money-making enterprises that try to do this, with either ridiculously low graduation rates on the order of 5%, or totally fraudulent standards of success.
> Trump University comes to mind.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University
>
> --
> Bill Sloman, Sydney

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