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 by: The Starmaker - Thu, 29 Jun 2023 21:03 UTC

Time in the 4th Dimension?? Who came up with that idea dat

time is in the 4th dimension????

(Please, just give me one name)

(and if you don't know the answer...don't even fuckin bother with this
thread)

don't fuckin waste my time.

(... just give me one name)

if i hear two differnt answers, one of yous is WRONG!

If the answer is "nobody knows", i'd be happy wit dat.

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Fri, 30 Jun 2023 01:24 UTC

On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 2:02:56 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> Time in the 4th Dimension?? Who came up with that idea dat
>
> time is in the 4th dimension????
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> (Please, just give me one name)
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> (and if you don't know the answer...don't even fuckin bother with this
> thread)
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> don't fuckin waste my time.
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> if i hear two differnt answers, one of yous is WRONG!
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> If the answer is "nobody knows", i'd be happy wit dat.
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> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

Time isn't a dimension. The hypersphere is.
Its job is to close and expand the universe.
Time is order.

Mitchell Raemsch

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 by: Chris M. Thomasson - Fri, 30 Jun 2023 01:26 UTC

On 6/29/2023 2:03 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Time in the 4th Dimension?? Who came up with that idea dat
[...]

Think of a 4d being looking at a clock hanging on the wall of a room in
the 3'rd dimension... It can sync itself up with it.

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Fri, 30 Jun 2023 02:14 UTC

On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 6:27:00 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 6/29/2023 2:03 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Time in the 4th Dimension?? Who came up with that idea dat
> [...]
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> Think of a 4d being looking at a clock hanging on the wall of a room in
> the 3'rd dimension... It can sync itself up with it.

The shadow of the tesseract is man's imagination...
The hypersphere or what closes the universe is real.
That is the round dimension where nothing has ever moved.

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 by: Chris M. Thomasson - Fri, 30 Jun 2023 02:21 UTC

On 6/29/2023 7:14 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 6:27:00 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 6/29/2023 2:03 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Time in the 4th Dimension?? Who came up with that idea dat
>> [...]
>>
>> Think of a 4d being looking at a clock hanging on the wall of a room in
>> the 3'rd dimension... It can sync itself up with it.
>
> The shadow of the tesseract is man's imagination...

Not sure if we can even begin to imagine the 4'th dimension. Its not
time because time exists in all dimensions...

> The hypersphere or what closes the universe is real.
> That is the round dimension where nothing has ever moved.

Just a fun question... Can this hypersphere be the "cage" that holds us
back from a much larger realm?

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Fri, 30 Jun 2023 03:35 UTC

On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 7:21:30 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 6/29/2023 7:14 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 6:27:00 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >> On 6/29/2023 2:03 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Time in the 4th Dimension?? Who came up with that idea dat
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> Think of a 4d being looking at a clock hanging on the wall of a room in
> >> the 3'rd dimension... It can sync itself up with it.
> >
> > The shadow of the tesseract is man's imagination...
> Not sure if we can even begin to imagine the 4'th dimension. Its not
> time because time exists in all dimensions...
> > The hypersphere or what closes the universe is real.
> > That is the round dimension where nothing has ever moved.
> Just a fun question... Can this hypersphere be the "cage" that holds us
> back from a much larger realm?

Time isn't everywhere. The hypersphere came first and is not of time.
Time does not precede everything. The absolute beginning shows how.

Mitchell Raemsch

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 by: The Starmaker - Fri, 30 Jun 2023 04:39 UTC

Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
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> On 6/29/2023 2:03 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Time in the 4th Dimension?? Who came up with that idea dat
> [...]
>
> Think of a 4d being looking at a clock hanging on the wall of a room in
> the 3'rd dimension... It can sync itself up with it.

Okay, since you don't know Who came up with that idea dat of Time in the
fourth Dimension, then
who Who came up with that idea dat there IS a 4th dimension????
(nevermind your Twilight Zone clock....)

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 by: Mikko - Fri, 30 Jun 2023 13:16 UTC

On 2023-06-29 21:03:23 +0000, The Starmaker said:

> Who came up with that idea dat time is in the 4th dimension????

"In the 4th dimension" does not make sense.
According to d'Alembert "a man of wit" came up with the idea that
time is the 4th dimension.

Mikko

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 by: The Starmaker - Fri, 30 Jun 2023 22:41 UTC

Mikko wrote:
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> On 2023-06-29 21:03:23 +0000, The Starmaker said:
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> > Who came up with that idea dat time is in the 4th dimension????
>
> "In the 4th dimension" does not make sense.
> According to d'Alembert "a man of wit" came up with the idea that
> time is the 4th dimension.
>
> Mikko

and what is the 5th dimension?

--
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

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 by: The Starmaker - Sat, 1 Jul 2023 00:43 UTC

Alan Folmsbee wrote:
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> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 5:02:59 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Time in the 4th Dimension?? Who came up with that idea dat
> >
> > time is in the 4th dimension????
> >
> >
> > (Please, just give me one name)
> >
> >
> > (and if you don't know the answer...don't even fuckin bother with this
> > thread)
> >
> >
> > don't fuckin waste my time.
> >
> >
> > (... just give me one name)
> >
> >
> > if i hear two differnt answers, one of yous is WRONG!
> >
> >
> >
> > If the answer is "nobody knows", i'd be happy wit dat.
> >
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> >
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> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.

> Herman Minkowski, is my guess.
> He brought matrix algebra into Einstein's bailiwick.

I see you gots two different names there..you might as well throw in ten
more names.

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The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

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 by: Volney - Sat, 1 Jul 2023 00:53 UTC

On 6/30/2023 6:41 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Mikko wrote:
>>
>> On 2023-06-29 21:03:23 +0000, The Starmaker said:
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>>> Who came up with that idea dat time is in the 4th dimension????
>>
>> "In the 4th dimension" does not make sense.
>> According to d'Alembert "a man of wit" came up with the idea that
>> time is the 4th dimension.
>>
>> Mikko
>
> and what is the 5th dimension?
>
They were a music vocal group in the 1960s and 1970s.

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 by: The Starmaker - Sat, 1 Jul 2023 02:34 UTC

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 5:02:59 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Time in the 4th Dimension?? Who came up with that idea dat
> > >
> > > time is in the 4th dimension????
> > >
> > >
> > > (Please, just give me one name)
> > >
> > >
> > > (and if you don't know the answer...don't even fuckin bother with this
> > > thread)
> > >
> > >
> > > don't fuckin waste my time.
> > >
> > >
> > > (... just give me one name)
> > >
> > >
> > > if i hear two differnt answers, one of yous is WRONG!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If the answer is "nobody knows", i'd be happy wit dat.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
>
> > Herman Minkowski, is my guess.
> > He brought matrix algebra into Einstein's bailiwick.

some people cannot resist linking the kitchen sink to Einstien...

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The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

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 by: Chris M. Thomasson - Sat, 1 Jul 2023 02:50 UTC

On 6/30/2023 5:53 PM, Volney wrote:
> On 6/30/2023 6:41 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Mikko wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2023-06-29 21:03:23 +0000, The Starmaker said:
>>>
>>>> Who came up with that idea dat time is in the 4th dimension????
>>>
>>> "In the 4th dimension" does not make sense.
>>> According to d'Alembert "a man of wit" came up with the idea that
>>> time is the 4th dimension.
>>>
>>> Mikko
>>
>> and what is the 5th dimension?
>>
> They were a music vocal group in the 1960s and 1970s.

lol! ;^D

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 by: Chris M. Thomasson - Sat, 1 Jul 2023 03:24 UTC

On 6/29/2023 8:35 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 7:21:30 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 6/29/2023 7:14 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 6:27:00 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>> On 6/29/2023 2:03 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Time in the 4th Dimension?? Who came up with that idea dat
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> Think of a 4d being looking at a clock hanging on the wall of a room in
>>>> the 3'rd dimension... It can sync itself up with it.
>>>
>>> The shadow of the tesseract is man's imagination...
>> Not sure if we can even begin to imagine the 4'th dimension. Its not
>> time because time exists in all dimensions...
>>> The hypersphere or what closes the universe is real.
>>> That is the round dimension where nothing has ever moved.
>> Just a fun question... Can this hypersphere be the "cage" that holds us
>> back from a much larger realm?
>
> Time isn't everywhere. The hypersphere came first and is not of time.
> Time does not precede everything. The absolute beginning shows how.

I have a feeling there was no "absolute beginning". Its the great
chicken and egg problem. ;^)

One can think of something that was always there, and will never pass
away. Some think of it as the one God, but whatever...

You can tap your fingers together to keep time. Time exists in every
dimension. I do not think that time is the 4'th dimension.

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