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Ultrasonic sounds from plants, plants speaking at 40 kHz to 80 kHz
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/03/230330133551.htm

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On Saturday, 1 April 2023 at 07:05:21 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> Ultrasonic sounds from plants, plants speaking at 40 kHz to 80 kHz
> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/03/230330133551.htm
ultrasounds stay below 20Hz

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Sat, 1 Apr 2023 14:00 UTC

On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 1:05:21 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> Ultrasonic sounds from plants, plants speaking at 40 kHz to 80 kHz
> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/03/230330133551.htm

The plants are not speaking at all. Sounds caused by cavitation effects as internal water columns drain due to dehydration is not speaking.

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On Saturday, 1 April 2023 at 16:00:52 UTC+2, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 1:05:21 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> > Ultrasonic sounds from plants, plants speaking at 40 kHz to 80 kHz
> > https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/03/230330133551.htm
> The plants are not speaking at all. Sounds caused by cavitation effects as internal water columns drain due to dehydration is not speaking.
woman under stress can emit alike ultrasonic sounds

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On Saturday, 1 April 2023 at 07:05:21 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> Ultrasonic sounds from plants, plants speaking at 40 kHz to 80 kHz
> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/03/230330133551.htm
Songbirds and Humans Share Some Common Speech Patterns
June 23, 2021 — If you listen to songbirds, you will recognize repeated melodies or phrases. Each phrase is made up of distinct sounds, strung together. A study has found that the song phrases of many songbird ...
Study Charts Developmental Map of Inner Ear Sound Sensor in Mice
May 29, 2020 — A team of researchers has generated a developmental map of a key sound-sensing structure in the mouse inner ear. Scientists analyzed data from 30,000 cells from mouse cochlea, the snail-shaped ...
Noises from Human Activity May Threaten New England's Freshwater Soundscape
Mar. 18, 2020 — Sounds produced by human activities -- anthropogenic sounds -- account for more than 90% of the underwater soundscape in major freshwater habitats of New ...
Can Chimpanzee Vocalizations Reveal the Origins of Human Language?
May 8, 2018 — Fossil primates provide important clues about human evolution, but the sounds they made and the soft tissue involved in making those sounds weren't preserved. So chimpanzees can provide important ...

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Yet one more #veryStupidByLowIQaa post.

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Sun, 2 Apr 2023 17:37 UTC

On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 6:04:09 PM UTC-4, a a wrote:
> On Saturday, 1 April 2023 at 07:05:21 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> > Ultrasonic sounds from plants, plants speaking at 40 kHz to 80 kHz
> > https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/03/230330133551.htm
> Songbirds and Humans Share Some Common Speech Patterns
> June 23, 2021 — If you listen to songbirds, you will recognize repeated melodies or phrases. Each phrase is made up of distinct sounds, strung together. A study has found that the song phrases of many songbird ...
> Study Charts Developmental Map of Inner Ear Sound Sensor in Mice
> May 29, 2020 — A team of researchers has generated a developmental map of a key sound-sensing structure in the mouse inner ear. Scientists analyzed data from 30,000 cells from mouse cochlea, the snail-shaped ...
> Noises from Human Activity May Threaten New England's Freshwater Soundscape
> Mar. 18, 2020 — Sounds produced by human activities -- anthropogenic sounds -- account for more than 90% of the underwater soundscape in major freshwater habitats of New ...
> Can Chimpanzee Vocalizations Reveal the Origins of Human Language?
> May 8, 2018 — Fossil primates provide important clues about human evolution, but the sounds they made and the soft tissue involved in making those sounds weren't preserved. So chimpanzees can provide important ...

Birds have two separate windpipes which they manipulate to make much more complex sounds.

http://people.eku.edu/ritchisong/birdrespiration.html

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 by: Martin Brown - Mon, 3 Apr 2023 10:32 UTC

On 01/04/2023 15:00, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 1:05:21 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> Ultrasonic sounds from plants, plants speaking at 40 kHz to 80 kHz
>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/03/230330133551.htm
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> The plants are not speaking at all. Sounds caused by cavitation effects as internal water columns drain due to dehydration is not speaking.

They might just possibly be communicating with insects - saying words to
the effect of "Go away - I'm toxic". But I don't see an obvious
mechanism for them to generate such ultrasonic clicks though.

Capillary effects in xylem are strong enough to support very tall
columns of water as tall trees demonstrate so well.

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Re: Ultrasonic sounds from plants, plants speaking at 40 kHz to 80 kHz

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Subject: Re: Ultrasonic sounds from plants, plants speaking at 40 kHz to 80 kHz
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 by: Fred Bloggs - Mon, 3 Apr 2023 13:40 UTC

On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 6:32:52 AM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote:
> On 01/04/2023 15:00, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 1:05:21 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> >> Ultrasonic sounds from plants, plants speaking at 40 kHz to 80 kHz
> >> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/03/230330133551.htm
> >
> > The plants are not speaking at all. Sounds caused by cavitation effects as internal water columns drain due to dehydration is not speaking.
> They might just possibly be communicating with insects - saying words to
> the effect of "Go away - I'm toxic". But I don't see an obvious
> mechanism for them to generate such ultrasonic clicks though.
>
> Capillary effects in xylem are strong enough to support very tall
> columns of water as tall trees demonstrate so well.

Pretty sure they were talking about the herbaceous forb variety, not ligneous.

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> Martin Brown

Re: Ultrasonic sounds from plants, plants speaking at 40 kHz to 80 kHz

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Subject: Re: Ultrasonic sounds from plants, plants speaking at 40 kHz to 80 kHz
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 by: a a - Mon, 3 Apr 2023 14:05 UTC

On Monday, 3 April 2023 at 15:40:53 UTC+2, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 6:32:52 AM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote:
> > On 01/04/2023 15:00, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > > On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 1:05:21 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> > >> Ultrasonic sounds from plants, plants speaking at 40 kHz to 80 kHz
> > >> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/03/230330133551.htm
> > >
> > > The plants are not speaking at all. Sounds caused by cavitation effects as internal water columns drain due to dehydration is not speaking.
> > They might just possibly be communicating with insects - saying words to
> > the effect of "Go away - I'm toxic". But I don't see an obvious
> > mechanism for them to generate such ultrasonic clicks though.
> >
> > Capillary effects in xylem are strong enough to support very tall
> > columns of water as tall trees demonstrate so well.
> Pretty sure they were talking about the herbaceous forb variety, not ligneous.
>
>
> >
> > --
> > Martin Brown
Another fake research paper

Re: Ultrasonic sounds from plants, plants speaking at 40 kHz to 80 kHz

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Yet one more #veryStupidByLowIQaa post.

Re: Ultrasonic sounds from plants, plants speaking at 40 kHz to 80 kHz

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Subject: Re: Ultrasonic sounds from plants, plants speaking at 40 kHz to 80 kHz
From: bloggs.f...@gmail.com (Fred Bloggs)
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 by: Fred Bloggs - Mon, 3 Apr 2023 18:20 UTC

On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 10:05:09 AM UTC-4, a a wrote:
> On Monday, 3 April 2023 at 15:40:53 UTC+2, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 6:32:52 AM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote:
> > > On 01/04/2023 15:00, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 1:05:21 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> > > >> Ultrasonic sounds from plants, plants speaking at 40 kHz to 80 kHz
> > > >> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/03/230330133551.htm
> > > >
> > > > The plants are not speaking at all. Sounds caused by cavitation effects as internal water columns drain due to dehydration is not speaking.
> > > They might just possibly be communicating with insects - saying words to
> > > the effect of "Go away - I'm toxic". But I don't see an obvious
> > > mechanism for them to generate such ultrasonic clicks though.
> > >
> > > Capillary effects in xylem are strong enough to support very tall
> > > columns of water as tall trees demonstrate so well.
> > Pretty sure they were talking about the herbaceous forb variety, not ligneous.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Martin Brown
> Another fake research paper

Being Chinese you would know all about that.

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