Could this tax be the answer to the city's homelessness problem, or will it drive away the real estate market? Comment below.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1643016048986210304

On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 15:32:52 -0700 (PDT), a a <manta103g@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Could this tax be the answer to the city's homelessness problem, or will it drive away the real estate market? Comment below.
>
>https://twitter.com/i/status/1643016048986210304

More spending on homeless creates magnets for the homeless. Spending
usually increases the homeless population.

On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 6:32:56 PM UTC-4, a a wrote:
> Could this tax be the answer to the city's homelessness problem, or will it drive away the real estate market? Comment below.
>
> https://twitter.com/i/status/1643016048986210304

There is no answer to the homelessness "problem." Just like there's no answer to mental illness and substance abuse.

>

Yet one more #veryStupidByLowIQaa post.

On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 05:55:26 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 6:32:56?PM UTC-4, a a wrote:
>> Could this tax be the answer to the city's homelessness problem, or will it drive away the real estate market? Comment below.
>>
>> https://twitter.com/i/status/1643016048986210304
>
>There is no answer to the homelessness "problem." Just like there's no answer to mental illness and substance abuse.

Getting addictive drugs off the streets would help a lot. Some
fentanyl dealers are mass murdrerers.

Homelessness is of course a giant industry. The homeless are to that
industry what the cows are to the gourmet cheese business.

tirsdag den 4. april 2023 kl. 17.19.27 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
> On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 05:55:26 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 6:32:56?PM UTC-4, a a wrote:
> >> Could this tax be the answer to the city's homelessness problem, or will it drive away the real estate market? Comment below.
> >>
> >> https://twitter.com/i/status/1643016048986210304
> >
> >There is no answer to the homelessness "problem." Just like there's no answer to mental illness and substance abuse.
> Getting addictive drugs off the streets would help a lot. Some
> fentanyl dealers are mass murdrerers.

if it was legal the addicts could could buy it from a pharmacy and would know what they are getting
fentanyl is "just" an opiod, it just happens to be extremely strong

On 4/4/2023 11:19 AM, John Larkin wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 05:55:26 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 6:32:56?PM UTC-4, a a wrote:
>>> Could this tax be the answer to the city's homelessness problem, or will it drive away the real estate market? Comment below.
>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/i/status/1643016048986210304
>>
>> There is no answer to the homelessness "problem." Just like there's no answer to mental illness and substance abuse.
>
> Getting addictive drugs off the streets would help a lot. Some
> fentanyl dealers are mass murdrerers.
>
> Homelessness is of course a giant industry. The homeless are to that
> industry what the cows are to the gourmet cheese business.
>

According to the federal government, it is your human right to pay for
14 Ohio class ballistic missile submarines, each of which was ungodly
expensive but are already considered obsolete and going to be replaced
with the Columbia class, total procurement of which is estimated at $150
billion, so multiply by four or five to get a realistic figure.

But meanwhile the ability to have somewhere to live is a _privilege_.

If homelessness is "giant industry" (doubtful) it's a drop in the bucket
compared to the megatons of pork awarded in cost-plus, no-bid contracts
to DOD affiliates.

On 4/4/2023 11:48 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:19:27 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 05:55:26 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 6:32:56?PM UTC-4, a a wrote:
>>>> Could this tax be the answer to the city's homelessness problem, or will it drive away the real estate market? Comment below.
>>>>
>>>> https://twitter.com/i/status/1643016048986210304
>>>
>>> There is no answer to the homelessness "problem." Just like there's no answer to mental illness and substance abuse.
>>
>> Getting addictive drugs off the streets would help a lot. Some fentanyl dealers are mass murderers.
>
> But once people are dead they aren't homeless. A more generous supply of addictive drugs might eliminate the homelessness problem, as well as a lot of the homeless..
>
>> Homelessness is of course a giant industry. The homeless are to that industry what the cows are to the gourmet cheese business.
>
> An industry produces something that somebody can sell. Homeless people might be seen as a target for charity. but that makes them part of the entertainment business rather than any kind of industry.
>
> Calling them migrant workers, vagrants or vagabonds defines the problem out of existence. Right wing politicians are great at defining problems out of existence.
>
> A male is anybody with one X and one Y chromosome, and a female is somebody with two X chromosomes, and gender isn't an issue.
>

JL probably doesn't know much about the contributions of all the social
workers and social service agencies run ragged trying to keep people
from falling into homelessness in the first place, which in the USA is
sometimes only one family member with a serious illness/injury or large
unexpected bill away.

My late mother was one of them and was hardly wealthy, she retired at 70
and downsized to a one-bedroom "flat" where she lived the rest of her days.

It's more than most of her hundreds or thousands of clients over the
years would have had without the help of her or people like her; the
homelessness problem in America would be much worse and some of them
might be bashing in JL's office door out in tony San Fran.

But at least for the moment they probably aren't doing that most of the
time. The "homelessness industry" was working for him in a sense, not
that he likely sees it that way.

On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 9:33:06 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
> On 4/4/2023 11:48 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:19:27 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
> >> On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 05:55:26 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 6:32:56?PM UTC-4, a a wrote:
> >>>> Could this tax be the answer to the city's homelessness problem, or will it drive away the real estate market? Comment below.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://twitter.com/i/status/1643016048986210304
> >>>
> >>> There is no answer to the homelessness "problem." Just like there's no answer to mental illness and substance abuse.
> >>
> >> Getting addictive drugs off the streets would help a lot. Some fentanyl dealers are mass murderers.
> >
> > But once people are dead they aren't homeless. A more generous supply of addictive drugs might eliminate the homelessness problem, as well as a lot of the homeless..
> >
> >> Homelessness is of course a giant industry. The homeless are to that industry what the cows are to the gourmet cheese business.
> >
> > An industry produces something that somebody can sell. Homeless people might be seen as a target for charity. but that makes them part of the entertainment business rather than any kind of industry.
> >
> > Calling them migrant workers, vagrants or vagabonds defines the problem out of existence. Right wing politicians are great at defining problems out of existence.
> >
> > A male is anybody with one X and one Y chromosome, and a female is somebody with two X chromosomes, and gender isn't an issue.
> >
> JL probably doesn't know much about the contributions of all the social
> workers and social service agencies run ragged trying to keep people
> from falling into homelessness in the first place, which in the USA is
> sometimes only one family member with a serious illness/injury or large
> unexpected bill away.
>
> My late mother was one of them and was hardly wealthy, she retired at 70
> and downsized to a one-bedroom "flat" where she lived the rest of her days.
>
> It's more than most of her hundreds or thousands of clients over the
> years would have had without the help of her or people like her; the
> homelessness problem in America would be much worse and some of them
> might be bashing in JL's office door out in tony San Fran.

That's an affordable housing issue, and completely different from homelessness. Most of the homeless portrayed in videos in the big cities are younger than mid-life, mainly because that's the ceiling on their life expectancy, they're certifiable lunatics, and/or suicidally drug addicted.

On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 09:32:59 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

>On 4/4/2023 11:48 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:19:27?AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
>>> On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 05:55:26 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 6:32:56?PM UTC-4, a a wrote:
>>>>> Could this tax be the answer to the city's homelessness problem, or will it drive away the real estate market? Comment below.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://twitter.com/i/status/1643016048986210304
>>>>
>>>> There is no answer to the homelessness "problem." Just like there's no answer to mental illness and substance abuse.
>>>
>>> Getting addictive drugs off the streets would help a lot. Some fentanyl dealers are mass murderers.
>>
>> But once people are dead they aren't homeless. A more generous supply of addictive drugs might eliminate the homelessness problem, as well as a lot of the homeless..
>>
>>> Homelessness is of course a giant industry. The homeless are to that industry what the cows are to the gourmet cheese business.
>>
>> An industry produces something that somebody can sell. Homeless people might be seen as a target for charity. but that makes them part of the entertainment business rather than any kind of industry.
>>
>> Calling them migrant workers, vagrants or vagabonds defines the problem out of existence. Right wing politicians are great at defining problems out of existence.
>>
>> A male is anybody with one X and one Y chromosome, and a female is somebody with two X chromosomes, and gender isn't an issue.
>>
>
>JL probably doesn't know much about the contributions of all the social
>workers and social service agencies run ragged trying to keep people
>from falling into homelessness in the first place, which in the USA is
>sometimes only one family member with a serious illness/injury or large
>unexpected bill away.
>
>My late mother was one of them and was hardly wealthy, she retired at 70
>and downsized to a one-bedroom "flat" where she lived the rest of her days.
>
>It's more than most of her hundreds or thousands of clients over the
>years would have had without the help of her or people like her; the
>homelessness problem in America would be much worse and some of them
>might be bashing in JL's office door out in tony San Fran.
>
>But at least for the moment they probably aren't doing that most of the
>time. The "homelessness industry" was working for him in a sense, not
>that he likely sees it that way.

SF spends roughly $140K per year per homeless on "services". That
feeds an army of non-profit managers, ambulance companies, lawyers,
and city employees. And all that money kills on average about 2 of
their "clients" per day, more than covid killed at its peak.