On 29/04/2022 22:57, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:50:53 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 29/04/2022 10:41, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:21:06 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29/04/2022 09:12, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 22:46:03 +0100, Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 22:08:40 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 27/04/2022 21:44, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Please do not feed the ponies
>>>>>>>> It encourages them to stay near the road where they might be
>>>>>>>> killed or
>>>>>>>> seriously injured."
>>>>>>>> - that reminds me of something I saw advertised on Ebay for only a
>>>>>>>> fiver.  You fit it under the bonnet of your car and it emits
>>>>>>>> ultrasound
>>>>>>>> to scare off deer etc, so they don't get run over.  Maybe all cars
>>>>>>>> should have these.  I've killed one with my Golf :-(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It hurts. :-(  In my lifetime, I've hit two. One was pregnant and
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> baby spilt out onto the road. I felt terrible and rang and asked the
>>>>>>> police to deal with the remains.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps you are right about Ultrasound.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think I'll buy one.  You can get one here:
>>>>>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/194805544449
>>>>>
>>>>> OMFG.  These are not ultrasonic speakers, not electronic, not
>>>>> electrical.  It's a piece of plastic in some form of whistle shape
>>>>> that
>>>>> alledgedly makes ultrasound when travelling over 60kmph.  I blew
>>>>> into it
>>>>> and it made a normal human hearable whistling sound, so I'm guessing
>>>>> that under 60kmph it's going to piss off every pedestrian.  I like it.
>>>>
>>>> No worries there, then! You don't drive at less than 100!
>>>
>>> In a built up area I do not exceed 60mph.  Although I guess that is over
>>> the pansy 60kmph quoted on the instructions.
>>
>> Maybe you'll watch and learn here:-
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig8uOyybH_o
>
> I've never hit anyone with my car.  If I do, it'll be because they
> didn't look before crossing, so their fault.

That's good. I trust it will continue that way.

>> Some of the comments are interesting.
>
> My favourite is "America is that special needs kid in class"

They are a different breed to us, for sure! ;-)

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 23:36:45 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 29/04/2022 22:57, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:50:53 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 29/04/2022 10:41, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:21:06 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No worries there, then! You don't drive at less than 100!
>>>>
>>>> In a built up area I do not exceed 60mph. Although I guess that is over
>>>> the pansy 60kmph quoted on the instructions.
>>>
>>> Maybe you'll watch and learn here:-
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig8uOyybH_o
>>
>> I've never hit anyone with my car. If I do, it'll be because they
>> didn't look before crossing, so their fault.
>
> That's good. I trust it will continue that way.

Are these illegal?:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i402aqgctfsndp2/Scatter%20scooters%21.mp4?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4wtexv2dhgb00nn/Fast%20bumps.mp4?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6smlrj9svg0k32q/Slalom.mp4?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uonb2oiv107sm5s/Bicycle.mp4?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x01423s99pbqqyl/Scatter.mp4?dl=0

>>> Some of the comments are interesting.
>>
>> My favourite is "America is that special needs kid in class"
>
> They are a different breed to us, for sure! ;-)

They're just what we sere 100 years ago. Something made them evolve slower.

On 29/04/2022 23:55, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 23:36:45 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 29/04/2022 22:57, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:50:53 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29/04/2022 10:41, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:21:06 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No worries there, then! You don't drive at less than 100!
>>>>>
>>>>> In a built up area I do not exceed 60mph.  Although I guess that is
>>>>> over
>>>>> the pansy 60kmph quoted on the instructions.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you'll watch and learn here:-
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig8uOyybH_o
>>>
>>> I've never hit anyone with my car.  If I do, it'll be because they
>>> didn't look before crossing, so their fault.
>>
>> That's good. I trust it will continue that way.
>
> Are these illegal?:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/i402aqgctfsndp2/Scatter%20scooters%21.mp4?dl=0
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/4wtexv2dhgb00nn/Fast%20bumps.mp4?dl=0
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/6smlrj9svg0k32q/Slalom.mp4?dl=0
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uonb2oiv107sm5s/Bicycle.mp4?dl=0
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/x01423s99pbqqyl/Scatter.mp4?dl=0

Everyone is entitle to have a camera in their car, so no, not illegal.

>>>> Some of the comments are interesting.
>>>
>>> My favourite is "America is that special needs kid in class"
>>
>> They are a different breed to us, for sure! ;-)
>
> They're just what we were 100 years ago.  Something made them evolve
> slower.

Probably the guilt they've been carrying for killing most of the
indigenous population.

On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 00:12:11 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 29/04/2022 23:55, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 23:36:45 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 29/04/2022 22:57, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:50:53 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 29/04/2022 10:41, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:21:06 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No worries there, then! You don't drive at less than 100!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a built up area I do not exceed 60mph. Although I guess that is
>>>>>> over
>>>>>> the pansy 60kmph quoted on the instructions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you'll watch and learn here:-
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig8uOyybH_o
>>>>
>>>> I've never hit anyone with my car. If I do, it'll be because they
>>>> didn't look before crossing, so their fault.
>>>
>>> That's good. I trust it will continue that way.
>>
>> Are these illegal?:
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/i402aqgctfsndp2/Scatter%20scooters%21.mp4?dl=0
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/4wtexv2dhgb00nn/Fast%20bumps.mp4?dl=0
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/6smlrj9svg0k32q/Slalom.mp4?dl=0
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uonb2oiv107sm5s/Bicycle.mp4?dl=0
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/x01423s99pbqqyl/Scatter.mp4?dl=0
>
> Everyone is entitle to have a camera in their car, so no, not illegal.

Very funny. I was referring to the speed and terrorizing of pedestrians.

My highest ever speed is 140mph.

Or 700 if you count planes.

55 on a boat.

>>>>> Some of the comments are interesting.
>>>>
>>>> My favourite is "America is that special needs kid in class"
>>>
>>> They are a different breed to us, for sure! ;-)
>>
>> They're just what we were 100 years ago. Something made them evolve
>> slower.
>
> Probably the guilt they've been carrying for killing most of the
> indigenous population.

Most do not feel guilty about that. Some do.

https://youtu.be/NY5Nc5MHZvc

On 30/04/2022 00:21, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 00:12:11 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 29/04/2022 23:55, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 23:36:45 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29/04/2022 22:57, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:50:53 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 29/04/2022 10:41, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:21:06 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No worries there, then! You don't drive at less than 100!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In a built up area I do not exceed 60mph.  Although I guess that is
>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>> the pansy 60kmph quoted on the instructions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe you'll watch and learn here:-
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig8uOyybH_o
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never hit anyone with my car.  If I do, it'll be because they
>>>>> didn't look before crossing, so their fault.
>>>>
>>>> That's good. I trust it will continue that way.
>>>
>>> Are these illegal?:
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/i402aqgctfsndp2/Scatter%20scooters%21.mp4?dl=0
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/4wtexv2dhgb00nn/Fast%20bumps.mp4?dl=0
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/6smlrj9svg0k32q/Slalom.mp4?dl=0
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uonb2oiv107sm5s/Bicycle.mp4?dl=0
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/x01423s99pbqqyl/Scatter.mp4?dl=0
>>
>> Everyone is entitle to have a camera in their car, so no, not illegal.
>
> Very funny.  I was referring to the speed and terrorizing of pedestrians.
>
> My highest ever speed is 140mph.
>
> Or 700 if you count planes.
>
> 55 on a boat.

I'm sorry - I didn't note the speed on the videos! ;-)

>>>>>> Some of the comments are interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>> My favourite is "America is that special needs kid in class"
>>>>
>>>> They are a different breed to us, for sure! ;-)
>>>
>>> They're just what we were 100 years ago.  Something made them evolve
>>> slower.
>>
>> Probably the guilt they've been carrying for killing most of the
>> indigenous population.
>
> Most do not feel guilty about that.  Some do.
>
> https://youtu.be/NY5Nc5MHZvc

A great song - with great Lyrics.

Lyrics
She came from Providence, the one in Rhode Island
Where the old world shadows hang heavy in the air
She packed her hopes and dreams like a refugee
Just as her father came across the sea
She heard about a place people were smilin'
They spoke about the red man's way, how they loved the land
And they came from everywhere to the Great Divide
Seeking a place to stand or a place to hide
Down in the crowded bars out for a good time,
Can't wait to tell you all what it's like up there
And they called it paradise, I don't know why
Somebody laid the mountains low while the town got high
Then the chilly winds blew down across the desert
Through the canyons of the coast to the Malibu
Where the pretty people play hungry for power
To light their neon way and give them things to do
Some rich man came and raped the land, nobody caught 'em
Put up a bunch of ugly boxes and, Jesus, people bought 'em
And they called it paradise, the place to be,
They watched the hazy sun sinking in the sea
You can leave it all behind and sail to Lahaina
Just like the missionaries did so many years ago
They even brought a neon sign 'Jesus is Coming'
Brought the white man's burden down, brought the white man's reign
Who will provide the grand design, what is yours and what is mine?
'Cause there is no more new frontier, we have got to make it here
We satisfy our endless needs and justify our bloody deeds
In the name of destiny and in the name of God
And you can see them there on Sunday morning
Stand up and sing about what it's like up there
They called it paradise, I don't know why
You call some place paradise, kiss it goodbye
Source: LyricFind

On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 09:58:20 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 30/04/2022 00:21, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 00:12:11 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 29/04/2022 23:55, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 23:36:45 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 29/04/2022 22:57, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:50:53 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 29/04/2022 10:41, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:21:06 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No worries there, then! You don't drive at less than 100!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In a built up area I do not exceed 60mph. Although I guess that is
>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>> the pansy 60kmph quoted on the instructions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe you'll watch and learn here:-
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig8uOyybH_o
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never hit anyone with my car. If I do, it'll be because they
>>>>>> didn't look before crossing, so their fault.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's good. I trust it will continue that way.
>>>>
>>>> Are these illegal?:
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/i402aqgctfsndp2/Scatter%20scooters%21.mp4?dl=0
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/4wtexv2dhgb00nn/Fast%20bumps.mp4?dl=0
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/6smlrj9svg0k32q/Slalom.mp4?dl=0
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uonb2oiv107sm5s/Bicycle.mp4?dl=0
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/x01423s99pbqqyl/Scatter.mp4?dl=0
>>>
>>> Everyone is entitle to have a camera in their car, so no, not illegal.
>>
>> Very funny. I was referring to the speed and terrorizing of pedestrians.
>>
>> My highest ever speed is 140mph.
>>
>> Or 700 if you count planes.
>>
>> 55 on a boat.
>
> I'm sorry - I didn't note the speed on the videos! ;-)

Those videos were not 140. That occurred in France. The Gendarme lost me.

>>>>>>> Some of the comments are interesting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My favourite is "America is that special needs kid in class"
>>>>>
>>>>> They are a different breed to us, for sure! ;-)
>>>>
>>>> They're just what we were 100 years ago. Something made them evolve
>>>> slower.
>>>
>>> Probably the guilt they've been carrying for killing most of the
>>> indigenous population.
>>
>> Most do not feel guilty about that. Some do.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/NY5Nc5MHZvc
>
> A great song - with great Lyrics.
>
> Lyrics
> She came from Providence, the one in Rhode Island
> Where the old world shadows hang heavy in the air
> She packed her hopes and dreams like a refugee
> Just as her father came across the sea
> She heard about a place people were smilin'
> They spoke about the red man's way, how they loved the land
> And they came from everywhere to the Great Divide
> Seeking a place to stand or a place to hide
> Down in the crowded bars out for a good time,
> Can't wait to tell you all what it's like up there
> And they called it paradise, I don't know why
> Somebody laid the mountains low while the town got high
> Then the chilly winds blew down across the desert
> Through the canyons of the coast to the Malibu
> Where the pretty people play hungry for power
> To light their neon way and give them things to do
> Some rich man came and raped the land, nobody caught 'em
> Put up a bunch of ugly boxes and, Jesus, people bought 'em
> And they called it paradise, the place to be,
> They watched the hazy sun sinking in the sea
> You can leave it all behind and sail to Lahaina
> Just like the missionaries did so many years ago
> They even brought a neon sign 'Jesus is Coming'
> Brought the white man's burden down, brought the white man's reign
> Who will provide the grand design, what is yours and what is mine?
> 'Cause there is no more new frontier, we have got to make it here
> We satisfy our endless needs and justify our bloody deeds
> In the name of destiny and in the name of God
> And you can see them there on Sunday morning
> Stand up and sing about what it's like up there
> They called it paradise, I don't know why
> You call some place paradise, kiss it goodbye
> Source: LyricFind

Indeed, it's a pity people don't listen to lyrics properly. This is another favourite:
https://youtu.be/PGNTaM7roSY

On 30/04/2022 10:21, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 09:58:20 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 30/04/2022 00:21, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 00:12:11 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29/04/2022 23:55, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 23:36:45 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 29/04/2022 22:57, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:50:53 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 29/04/2022 10:41, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:21:06 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No worries there, then! You don't drive at less than 100!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In a built up area I do not exceed 60mph.  Although I guess
>>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>> the pansy 60kmph quoted on the instructions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe you'll watch and learn here:-
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig8uOyybH_o
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've never hit anyone with my car.  If I do, it'll be because they
>>>>>>> didn't look before crossing, so their fault.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's good. I trust it will continue that way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are these illegal?:
>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/i402aqgctfsndp2/Scatter%20scooters%21.mp4?dl=0
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/4wtexv2dhgb00nn/Fast%20bumps.mp4?dl=0
>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/6smlrj9svg0k32q/Slalom.mp4?dl=0
>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uonb2oiv107sm5s/Bicycle.mp4?dl=0
>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/x01423s99pbqqyl/Scatter.mp4?dl=0
>>>>
>>>> Everyone is entitle to have a camera in their car, so no, not illegal.
>>>
>>> Very funny.  I was referring to the speed and terrorizing of
>>> pedestrians.
>>>
>>> My highest ever speed is 140mph.
>>>
>>> Or 700 if you count planes.
>>>
>>> 55 on a boat.
>>
>> I'm sorry - I didn't note the speed on the videos! ;-)
>
> Those videos were not 140.  That occurred in France.  The Gendarme lost me.

You are a card! ;-)

>>>>>>>> Some of the comments are interesting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My favourite is "America is that special needs kid in class"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are a different breed to us, for sure! ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> They're just what we were 100 years ago.  Something made them evolve
>>>>> slower.
>>>>
>>>> Probably the guilt they've been carrying for killing most of the
>>>> indigenous population.
>>>
>>> Most do not feel guilty about that.  Some do.
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/NY5Nc5MHZvc
>>
>> A great song - with great Lyrics.
>>
>> Lyrics
[....]
> Indeed, it's a pity people don't listen to lyrics properly.  This is
> another favourite:
> https://youtu.be/PGNTaM7roSY

That is lovely. Words, music and singer.

Thank you for sharing. :-D

On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 10:33:48 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 30/04/2022 10:21, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 09:58:20 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 30/04/2022 00:21, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 00:12:11 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 29/04/2022 23:55, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 23:36:45 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 29/04/2022 22:57, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:50:53 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 29/04/2022 10:41, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:21:06 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No worries there, then! You don't drive at less than 100!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In a built up area I do not exceed 60mph. Although I guess
>>>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>> the pansy 60kmph quoted on the instructions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe you'll watch and learn here:-
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig8uOyybH_o
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've never hit anyone with my car. If I do, it'll be because they
>>>>>>>> didn't look before crossing, so their fault.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's good. I trust it will continue that way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are these illegal?:
>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/i402aqgctfsndp2/Scatter%20scooters%21.mp4?dl=0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/4wtexv2dhgb00nn/Fast%20bumps.mp4?dl=0
>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/6smlrj9svg0k32q/Slalom.mp4?dl=0
>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uonb2oiv107sm5s/Bicycle.mp4?dl=0
>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/x01423s99pbqqyl/Scatter.mp4?dl=0
>>>>>
>>>>> Everyone is entitle to have a camera in their car, so no, not illegal.
>>>>
>>>> Very funny. I was referring to the speed and terrorizing of
>>>> pedestrians.
>>>>
>>>> My highest ever speed is 140mph.
>>>>
>>>> Or 700 if you count planes.
>>>>
>>>> 55 on a boat.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry - I didn't note the speed on the videos! ;-)
>>
>> Those videos were not 140. That occurred in France. The Gendarme lost me.
>
> You are a card! ;-)

I was given a red card. Another one nicked me for having a radar detector. "C'est interdit en France!"

That car didn't speed again, the engine seized a few days later. French shite.

On 30/04/2022 10:38, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 10:33:48 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 30/04/2022 10:21, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 09:58:20 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30/04/2022 00:21, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 00:12:11 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 29/04/2022 23:55, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 23:36:45 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 29/04/2022 22:57, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:50:53 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 29/04/2022 10:41, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:21:06 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>>>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No worries there, then! You don't drive at less than 100!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In a built up area I do not exceed 60mph.  Although I guess
>>>>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>> the pansy 60kmph quoted on the instructions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you'll watch and learn here:-
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig8uOyybH_o
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've never hit anyone with my car.  If I do, it'll be because they
>>>>>>>>> didn't look before crossing, so their fault.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's good. I trust it will continue that way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are these illegal?:
>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/i402aqgctfsndp2/Scatter%20scooters%21.mp4?dl=0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/4wtexv2dhgb00nn/Fast%20bumps.mp4?dl=0
>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/6smlrj9svg0k32q/Slalom.mp4?dl=0
>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uonb2oiv107sm5s/Bicycle.mp4?dl=0
>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/x01423s99pbqqyl/Scatter.mp4?dl=0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everyone is entitle to have a camera in their car, so no, not
>>>>>> illegal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very funny.  I was referring to the speed and terrorizing of
>>>>> pedestrians.
>>>>>
>>>>> My highest ever speed is 140mph.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or 700 if you count planes.
>>>>>
>>>>> 55 on a boat.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry - I didn't note the speed on the videos! ;-)
>>>
>>> Those videos were not 140.  That occurred in France.  The Gendarme
>>> lost me.
>>
>> You are a card! ;-)
>
> I was given a red card.  Another one nicked me for having a radar
> detector.  "C'est interdit en France!"
>
> That car didn't speed again, the engine seized a few days later.  French
> shite.

Ha! You've told me that before! :-D

On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 15:09:19 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 30/04/2022 10:38, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 10:33:48 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 30/04/2022 10:21, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 09:58:20 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 30/04/2022 00:21, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 00:12:11 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 29/04/2022 23:55, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 23:36:45 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 29/04/2022 22:57, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:50:53 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 29/04/2022 10:41, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:21:06 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>>>>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No worries there, then! You don't drive at less than 100!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In a built up area I do not exceed 60mph. Although I guess
>>>>>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>> the pansy 60kmph quoted on the instructions.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you'll watch and learn here:-
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig8uOyybH_o
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've never hit anyone with my car. If I do, it'll be because they
>>>>>>>>>> didn't look before crossing, so their fault.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's good. I trust it will continue that way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are these illegal?:
>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/i402aqgctfsndp2/Scatter%20scooters%21.mp4?dl=0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/4wtexv2dhgb00nn/Fast%20bumps.mp4?dl=0
>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/6smlrj9svg0k32q/Slalom.mp4?dl=0
>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uonb2oiv107sm5s/Bicycle.mp4?dl=0
>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/x01423s99pbqqyl/Scatter.mp4?dl=0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Everyone is entitle to have a camera in their car, so no, not
>>>>>>> illegal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very funny. I was referring to the speed and terrorizing of
>>>>>> pedestrians.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My highest ever speed is 140mph.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or 700 if you count planes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 55 on a boat.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sorry - I didn't note the speed on the videos! ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Those videos were not 140. That occurred in France. The Gendarme
>>>> lost me.
>>>
>>> You are a card! ;-)
>>
>> I was given a red card. Another one nicked me for having a radar
>> detector. "C'est interdit en France!"
>>
>> That car didn't speed again, the engine seized a few days later. French
>> shite.
>
> Ha! You've told me that before! :-D

That cost the AA a lot of money to tow it right across two countries while renting me a Laguna.

On 30/04/2022 23:11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
[....]
>>>> You are a card! ;-)
>>>
>>> I was given a red card.  Another one nicked me for having a radar
>>> detector.  "C'est interdit en France!"
>>>
>>> That car didn't speed again, the engine seized a few days later.  French
>>> shite.
>>
>> Ha! You've told me that before! :-D
>
> That cost the AA a lot of money to tow it right across two countries
> while renting me a Laguna.

You never cease to surprise me!

Do you actually PAY for a subscription to the AA?

Btw - what's with this "renting me a car"? That's Americanese!

On Sun, 01 May 2022 12:24:23 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 30/04/2022 23:11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> [....]
>>>>> You are a card! ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I was given a red card. Another one nicked me for having a radar
>>>> detector. "C'est interdit en France!"
>>>>
>>>> That car didn't speed again, the engine seized a few days later. French
>>>> shite.
>>>
>>> Ha! You've told me that before! :-D
>>
>> That cost the AA a lot of money to tow it right across two countries
>> while renting me a Laguna.
>
> You never cease to surprise me!

I am a master of making things go wrong.

> Do you actually PAY for a subscription to the AA?

I pay one third of their normal price.

> Btw - what's with this "renting me a car"? That's Americanese!

What is the English for that then?

On 02/05/2022 04:12, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Sun, 01 May 2022 12:24:23 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 30/04/2022 23:11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> [....]
>>>>>> You are a card! ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I was given a red card.  Another one nicked me for having a radar
>>>>> detector.  "C'est interdit en France!"
>>>>>
>>>>> That car didn't speed again, the engine seized a few days later.
>>>>> French
>>>>> shite.
>>>>
>>>> Ha! You've told me that before! :-D
>>>
>>> That cost the AA a lot of money to tow it right across two countries
>>> while renting me a Laguna.
>>
>> You never cease to surprise me!
>
> I am a master of making things go wrong.

Yet your heart is in the right place! ❤️

>> Do you actually PAY for a subscription to the AA?
>
> I pay one third of their normal price.

How come? (but congratulations anyway!)

>> Btw - what's with this "renting me a car"? That's Americanese!
>
> What is the English for that then?

They lent you or loaned you a car.

If you had to pay, you'd have hired the car.

On Mon, 02 May 2022 07:46:36 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 02/05/2022 04:12, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sun, 01 May 2022 12:24:23 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 30/04/2022 23:11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> [....]
>>>>>>> You are a card! ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was given a red card. Another one nicked me for having a radar
>>>>>> detector. "C'est interdit en France!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That car didn't speed again, the engine seized a few days later.
>>>>>> French
>>>>>> shite.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ha! You've told me that before! :-D
>>>>
>>>> That cost the AA a lot of money to tow it right across two countries
>>>> while renting me a Laguna.
>>>
>>> You never cease to surprise me!
>>
>> I am a master of making things go wrong.
>
> Yet your heart is in the right place! ❤️
>
>>> Do you actually PAY for a subscription to the AA?
>>
>> I pay one third of their normal price.
>
> How come? (but congratulations anyway!)

Just threaten to leave. Quote Greenflag price. Greenflag sux, but the AA will still discount you to keep you. You have to do this every year though, they sneak it back up. They count on most people not bothering.

And car insurance is no longer allowed to do introductory first year prices but they still fuck you about and will take money off if they think you're leaving.

>>> Btw - what's with this "renting me a car"? That's Americanese!
>>
>> What is the English for that then?
>
> They lent you or loaned you a car.
>
> If you had to pay, you'd have hired the car.

No, if you loaned me a car, that would be your car. If you rented me a car, you have paid for a rental car from a company with your money, but for me. Big difference.

As for rent and hire, they mean precisely the same. You would say you hire a car but you rent a house?! I just rent both.

On 02/05/2022 07:57, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Mon, 02 May 2022 07:46:36 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 02/05/2022 04:12, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Sun, 01 May 2022 12:24:23 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30/04/2022 23:11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>> You are a card! ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was given a red card.  Another one nicked me for having a radar
>>>>>>> detector.  "C'est interdit en France!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That car didn't speed again, the engine seized a few days later.
>>>>>>> French
>>>>>>> shite.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ha! You've told me that before! :-D
>>>>>
>>>>> That cost the AA a lot of money to tow it right across two countries
>>>>> while renting me a Laguna.
>>>>
>>>> You never cease to surprise me!
>>>
>>> I am a master of making things go wrong.
>>
>> Yet your heart is in the right place!  ❤️
>>
>>>> Do you actually PAY for a subscription to the AA?
>>>
>>> I pay one third of their normal price.
>>
>> How come? (but congratulations anyway!)
>
> Just threaten to leave.  Quote Greenflag price.  Greenflag sux, but the
> AA will still discount you to keep you.  You have to do this every year
> though, they sneak it back up.  They count on most people not bothering.

I understand completely. My wife carries out this exercise each year
with the RAC. Well worthwhile!

> And car insurance is no longer allowed to do introductory first year
> prices but they still fuck you about and will take money off if they
> think you're leaving.

My renewal this year was £30 less than last year, so I didn't bother
shopping around!

>>>> Btw - what's with this "renting me a car"? That's Americanese!
>>>
>>> What is the English for that then?
>>
>> They lent you or loaned you a car.
>>
>> If you had to pay, you'd have hired the car.
>
> No, if you loaned me a car, that would be your car.  If you rented me a
> car, you have paid for a rental car from a company with your money, but
> for me.  Big difference.
>
> As for rent and hire, they mean precisely the same.  You would say you
> hire a car but you rent a house?!  I just rent both.

I concede. I don't do either. :-D

On Mon, 02 May 2022 08:10:29 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 02/05/2022 07:57, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Mon, 02 May 2022 07:46:36 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/05/2022 04:12, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 01 May 2022 12:24:23 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid..org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 30/04/2022 23:11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>> You are a card! ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was given a red card. Another one nicked me for having a radar
>>>>>>>> detector. "C'est interdit en France!"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That car didn't speed again, the engine seized a few days later..
>>>>>>>> French
>>>>>>>> shite.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ha! You've told me that before! :-D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That cost the AA a lot of money to tow it right across two countries
>>>>>> while renting me a Laguna.
>>>>>
>>>>> You never cease to surprise me!
>>>>
>>>> I am a master of making things go wrong.
>>>
>>> Yet your heart is in the right place! ❤️
>>>
>>>>> Do you actually PAY for a subscription to the AA?
>>>>
>>>> I pay one third of their normal price.
>>>
>>> How come? (but congratulations anyway!)
>>
>> Just threaten to leave. Quote Greenflag price. Greenflag sux, but the
>> AA will still discount you to keep you. You have to do this every year
>> though, they sneak it back up. They count on most people not bothering.
>
> I understand completely. My wife carries out this exercise each year
> with the RAC. Well worthwhile!

AA is cheaper than RAC. How much do you pay and for what package?

>> And car insurance is no longer allowed to do introductory first year
>> prices but they still fuck you about and will take money off if they
>> think you're leaving.
>
> My renewal this year was £30 less than last year, so I didn't bother
> shopping around!

I've never seen one go down by itself.

>>>>> Btw - what's with this "renting me a car"? That's Americanese!
>>>>
>>>> What is the English for that then?
>>>
>>> They lent you or loaned you a car.
>>>
>>> If you had to pay, you'd have hired the car.
>>
>> No, if you loaned me a car, that would be your car. If you rented me a
>> car, you have paid for a rental car from a company with your money, but
>> for me. Big difference.
>>
>> As for rent and hire, they mean precisely the same. You would say you
>> hire a car but you rent a house?! I just rent both.
>
> I concede. I don't do either. :-D

Neither do I, I was talking about what I would call it.

On 02/05/2022 08:27, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Mon, 02 May 2022 08:10:29 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 02/05/2022 07:57, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Mon, 02 May 2022 07:46:36 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 02/05/2022 04:12, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 01 May 2022 12:24:23 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>> <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 30/04/2022 23:11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>>> You are a card! ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was given a red card.  Another one nicked me for having a radar
>>>>>>>>> detector.  "C'est interdit en France!"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That car didn't speed again, the engine seized a few days later.
>>>>>>>>> French
>>>>>>>>> shite.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ha! You've told me that before! :-D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That cost the AA a lot of money to tow it right across two countries
>>>>>>> while renting me a Laguna.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You never cease to surprise me!
>>>>>
>>>>> I am a master of making things go wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Yet your heart is in the right place!  ❤️
>>>>
>>>>>> Do you actually PAY for a subscription to the AA?
>>>>>
>>>>> I pay one third of their normal price.
>>>>
>>>> How come? (but congratulations anyway!)
>>>
>>> Just threaten to leave.  Quote Greenflag price.  Greenflag sux, but the
>>> AA will still discount you to keep you.  You have to do this every year
>>> though, they sneak it back up.  They count on most people not bothering.
>>
>> I understand completely. My wife carries out this exercise each year
>> with the RAC. Well worthwhile!
>
> AA is cheaper than RAC.  How much do you pay and for what package?

I'll check.

>>> And car insurance is no longer allowed to do introductory first year
>>> prices but they still fuck you about and will take money off if they
>>> think you're leaving.
>>
>> My renewal this year was £30 less than last year, so I didn't bother
>> shopping around!
>
> I've never seen one go down by itself.

I'd never seen it either!

>>>>>> Btw - what's with this "renting me a car"? That's Americanese!
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the English for that then?
>>>>
>>>> They lent you or loaned you a car.
>>>>
>>>> If you had to pay, you'd have hired the car.
>>>
>>> No, if you loaned me a car, that would be your car.  If you rented me a
>>> car, you have paid for a rental car from a company with your money, but
>>> for me.  Big difference.
>>>
>>> As for rent and hire, they mean precisely the same.  You would say you
>>> hire a car but you rent a house?!  I just rent both.
>>
>> I concede. I don't do either. :-D
>
> Neither do I, I was talking about what I would call it.

Sorry. I misunderstood.

On 02/05/2022 08:36, David Brooks wrote:
> On 02/05/2022 08:27, Commander Kinsey wrote:

>> AA is cheaper than RAC.  How much do you pay and for what package?
>
> I'll check.

I suspect we didn't challenge last October - probably more concerned
with Covid infections etc.

We actually paid £126.99 - for their top-of-the-range package.

I've been with the RAC for over 50 years and have enjoyed excellent
service throughout.

On Mon, 02 May 2022 09:12:33 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 02/05/2022 08:36, David Brooks wrote:
>> On 02/05/2022 08:27, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>
>>> AA is cheaper than RAC. How much do you pay and for what package?
>>
>> I'll check.
>
> I suspect we didn't challenge last October - probably more concerned
> with Covid infections etc.
>
> We actually paid £126.99 - for their top-of-the-range package.
>
> I've been with the RAC for over 50 years and have enjoyed excellent
> service throughout.

Holy shit that's expensive, but then I don't get top of the range. Just basic fix it or take me to a garage. My neighbour does the same. We've both towed each other a quarter mile from home because we didn't have home start.

On 02/05/2022 09:24, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Mon, 02 May 2022 09:12:33 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 02/05/2022 08:36, David Brooks wrote:
>>> On 02/05/2022 08:27, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>
>>>> AA is cheaper than RAC.  How much do you pay and for what package?
>>>
>>> I'll check.
>>
>> I suspect we didn't challenge last October - probably more concerned
>> with Covid infections etc.
>>
>> We actually paid £126.99 - for their top-of-the-range package.
>>
>> I've been with the RAC for over 50 years and have enjoyed excellent
>> service throughout.
>
> Holy shit that's expensive, but then I don't get top of the range.  Just
> basic fix it or take me to a garage.  My neighbour does the same.  We've
> both towed each other a quarter mile from home because we didn't have
> home start.

I may have done such a thing when I was a youngster, but I can now
afford to pay for the convenience. What you do costs a lot in terms of
time, too.

On Mon, 02 May 2022 10:15:16 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 02/05/2022 09:24, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Mon, 02 May 2022 09:12:33 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/05/2022 08:36, David Brooks wrote:
>>>> On 02/05/2022 08:27, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>
>>>>> AA is cheaper than RAC. How much do you pay and for what package?
>>>>
>>>> I'll check.
>>>
>>> I suspect we didn't challenge last October - probably more concerned
>>> with Covid infections etc.
>>>
>>> We actually paid £126.99 - for their top-of-the-range package.
>>>
>>> I've been with the RAC for over 50 years and have enjoyed excellent
>>> service throughout.
>>
>> Holy shit that's expensive, but then I don't get top of the range. Just
>> basic fix it or take me to a garage. My neighbour does the same. We've
>> both towed each other a quarter mile from home because we didn't have
>> home start.
>
> I may have done such a thing when I was a youngster, but I can now
> afford to pay for the convenience. What you do costs a lot in terms of
> time, too.

No time taken, tow it while they're arriving.

On Monday, 2 May 2022 at 6:12:41 pm UTC+10, David Brooks wrote:
> On 02/05/2022 08:36, David Brooks wrote:
> > On 02/05/2022 08:27, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>
> >> AA is cheaper than RAC. How much do you pay and for what package?
> >
> > I'll check.
> I suspect we didn't challenge last October - probably more concerned
> with Covid infections etc.
>
> We actually paid £126.99 - for their top-of-the-range package.
>
> I've been with the RAC for over 50 years and have enjoyed excellent
> service throughout.

A bit pricey? I pay about AUD$186 (say £105) for RACQ top cover - each state has its own auto association, but no real competition like AA vs RAC. That is top cover for breakdowns, etc and will also cover the caravan, towing (both car and van if needed) up to $3300/annum, accommodation and free hire car if needed. Also, it covers any car I drive, as well as anyone driving my nominated vehicle (ie: SWMBO or son). As a 50+yr member, I also get a decent discount on their annual membership.

I've used it once in the last five years when my LandCruiser went into 'limp' mode in Mt Isa, and was VERY happy with how efficient it all was. Within half an hour of ringing, I had a tilt-tray winching it up, and a lovely person asking if I needed a motel room (we didn't as we were in a caravan park with our own van), and did I need a hire car (why don't we wait until we find out why The Beast is sullking).

All in all, very satisfied.

Really OT: I can recall when we were driving around the UK on holidays in the '50s and the RAC/AA (can't remember as I was <10) man on their bike/sidecar combo used to salute after seeing the badge on the front of our hire car. I really don't think I'd swap that for no internet, no decent roads, no mobile phones, etc though. :-)

Cheers,
Magani

On Tue, 03 May 2022 01:35:35 +0100, Magani <cdsross@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, 2 May 2022 at 6:12:41 pm UTC+10, David Brooks wrote:
>> On 02/05/2022 08:36, David Brooks wrote:
>> > On 02/05/2022 08:27, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>
>> >> AA is cheaper than RAC. How much do you pay and for what package?
>> >
>> > I'll check.
>> I suspect we didn't challenge last October - probably more concerned
>> with Covid infections etc.
>>
>> We actually paid £126.99 - for their top-of-the-range package.
>>
>> I've been with the RAC for over 50 years and have enjoyed excellent
>> service throughout.
>
> A bit pricey? I pay about AUD$186 (say £105) for RACQ top cover - each state has its own auto association, but no real competition like AA vs RAC. That is top cover for breakdowns, etc and will also cover the caravan, towing (both car and van if needed) up to $3300/annum, accommodation and free hire car if needed. Also, it covers any car I drive, as well as anyone driving my nominated vehicle (ie: SWMBO or son). As a 50+yr member, I also get a decent discount on their annual membership.
>
> I've used it once in the last five years when my LandCruiser went into 'limp' mode in Mt Isa, and was VERY happy with how efficient it all was.. Within half an hour of ringing, I had a tilt-tray winching it up, and a lovely person asking if I needed a motel room (we didn't as we were in a caravan park with our own van), and did I need a hire car (why don't we wait until we find out why The Beast is sullking).
>
> All in all, very satisfied.

Why not do what I do? All you need is to get out of the mess you're in. Get your car and you taken to civilisation. You can rent your own car and hotel room. Then your premium is far lower. I pay less than half what you do.

> Really OT: I can recall when we were driving around the UK on holidays in the '50s and the RAC/AA (can't remember as I was <10) man on their bike/sidecar combo used to salute after seeing the badge on the front of our hire car. I really don't think I'd swap that for no internet, no decent roads, no mobile phones, etc though. :-)

Are you sure that was a salute? The AA started as a warning for speed cameras. If you had the badge and there was a cop ahead, the AA would warn you.

On 03/05/2022 05:10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Tue, 03 May 2022 01:35:35 +0100, Magani <cdsross@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, 2 May 2022 at 6:12:41 pm UTC+10, David Brooks wrote:
>>> On 02/05/2022 08:36, David Brooks wrote:
>>> > On 02/05/2022 08:27, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>
>>> >> AA is cheaper than RAC.  How much do you pay and for what package?
>>> >
>>> > I'll check.
>>> I suspect we didn't challenge last October - probably more concerned
>>> with Covid infections etc.
>>>
>>> We actually paid £126.99 - for their top-of-the-range package.
>>>
>>> I've been with the RAC for over 50 years and have enjoyed excellent
>>> service throughout.
>>
>> A bit pricey?  I pay about AUD$186 (say £105) for RACQ top cover -
>> each state has its own auto association, but no real competition like
>> AA vs RAC.  That is top cover for breakdowns, etc and will also cover
>> the caravan, towing (both car and van if needed) up to $3300/annum,
>> accommodation and free hire car if needed.  Also, it covers any car I
>> drive, as well as anyone driving my nominated vehicle (ie: SWMBO or
>> son).  As a 50+yr member, I also get a decent discount on their annual
>> membership.
>>
>> I've used it once in the last five years when my LandCruiser went into
>> 'limp' mode in Mt Isa, and was VERY happy with how efficient it all
>> was.  Within half an hour of ringing, I had a tilt-tray winching it
>> up, and a lovely person asking if I needed a motel room (we didn't as
>> we were in a caravan park with our own van), and did I need a hire car
>> (why don't we wait until we find out why The Beast is sullking).
>>
>> All in all, very satisfied.
>
> Why not do what I do?  All you need is to get out of the mess you're
> in.  Get your car and you taken to civilisation.  You can rent your own
> car and hotel room.  Then your premium is far lower.  I pay less than
> half what you do.

Perhaps in 30 years time you'll be doing the same as me and Magani! ;-)

>> Really OT: I can recall when we were driving around the UK on holidays
>> in the '50s and the RAC/AA (can't remember as I was <10) man on their
>> bike/sidecar combo used to salute after seeing the badge on the front
>> of our hire car.  I really don't think I'd swap that for no internet,
>> no decent roads, no mobile phones, etc though. :-)
>
> Are you sure that was a salute?  The AA started as a warning for speed
> cameras.  If you had the badge and there was a cop ahead, the AA would
> warn you.

There's substantiating evidence too!
https://www.theaa.com/about-us/aa-history/timeline

Please come and defend yourself here, m8!

http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165159564100

If I'm in the wrong, please tell me!

On Tue, 03 May 2022 18:26:55 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 03/05/2022 05:10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 May 2022 01:35:35 +0100, Magani <cdsross@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, 2 May 2022 at 6:12:41 pm UTC+10, David Brooks wrote:
>>>> On 02/05/2022 08:36, David Brooks wrote:
>>>> > On 02/05/2022 08:27, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >> AA is cheaper than RAC. How much do you pay and for what package?
>>>> >
>>>> > I'll check.
>>>> I suspect we didn't challenge last October - probably more concerned
>>>> with Covid infections etc.
>>>>
>>>> We actually paid £126.99 - for their top-of-the-range package.
>>>>
>>>> I've been with the RAC for over 50 years and have enjoyed excellent
>>>> service throughout.
>>>
>>> A bit pricey? I pay about AUD$186 (say £105) for RACQ top cover -
>>> each state has its own auto association, but no real competition like
>>> AA vs RAC. That is top cover for breakdowns, etc and will also cover
>>> the caravan, towing (both car and van if needed) up to $3300/annum,
>>> accommodation and free hire car if needed. Also, it covers any car I
>>> drive, as well as anyone driving my nominated vehicle (ie: SWMBO or
>>> son). As a 50+yr member, I also get a decent discount on their annual
>>> membership.
>>>
>>> I've used it once in the last five years when my LandCruiser went into
>>> 'limp' mode in Mt Isa, and was VERY happy with how efficient it all
>>> was. Within half an hour of ringing, I had a tilt-tray winching it
>>> up, and a lovely person asking if I needed a motel room (we didn't as
>>> we were in a caravan park with our own van), and did I need a hire car
>>> (why don't we wait until we find out why The Beast is sullking).
>>>
>>> All in all, very satisfied.
>>
>> Why not do what I do? All you need is to get out of the mess you're
>> in. Get your car and you taken to civilisation. You can rent your own
>> car and hotel room. Then your premium is far lower. I pay less than
>> half what you do.
>
> Perhaps in 30 years time you'll be doing the same as me and Magani! ;-)

I doubt I have 30 years left unless medicine becomes a real science. I've now got 7 graphics cards running Folding at Home flat out. They mainly do cancer and Alzheimers, which are the two things I see a lot of around here. Is it a bad thing when a 13A plug is really warm? If I get enough stuff I'll see if I can get the incoming 100A cable warm....

>>> Really OT: I can recall when we were driving around the UK on holidays
>>> in the '50s and the RAC/AA (can't remember as I was <10) man on their
>>> bike/sidecar combo used to salute after seeing the badge on the front
>>> of our hire car. I really don't think I'd swap that for no internet,
>>> no decent roads, no mobile phones, etc though. :-)
>>
>> Are you sure that was a salute? The AA started as a warning for speed
>> cameras. If you had the badge and there was a cop ahead, the AA would
>> warn you.
>
> There's substantiating evidence too!
> https://www.theaa.com/about-us/aa-history/timeline

1865: 4mph limit
1897: 14mph
1903: 20mph
1966: 70mph
Isn't it about time they increased it again?

Seems a newspaper boy was prosecuted for claiming he couldn't go over 16mph on his bicycle!

> Please come and defend yourself here, m8!
>
> http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165159564100
>
> If I'm in the wrong, please tell me!

Nasty piece of work indeed. Perhaps he should meet me in person, then he'll find out what nasty is.