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* Time as "what clocks indicate"Maciej Wozniak
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GPS time, UTC time, TAI time, zone times -
they're all culture driven. Like some content of
a book.
The world is not spinning around the belly button
of your precious physics:(. Time, i.e. "what clocks
indicate" is not depending on it at all.

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 by: Paparios - Mon, 31 Jul 2023 15:04 UTC

El lunes, 31 de julio de 2023 a las 2:29:15 UTC-4, Maciej Wozniak escribió:
> GPS time, UTC time, TAI time, zone times -
> they're all culture driven. Like some content of
> a book.
> The world is not spinning around the belly button
> of your precious physics:(. Time, i.e. "what clocks
> indicate" is not depending on it at all.

It is clear that you do not know what "time" is. Actually nobody knows what time is. The definition of time involves its measurement:

"Time is the continued sequence of existence and events that occurs in an apparently irreversible succession from the past, through the present, into the future. It is a component quantity of various MEASUREMENTS used to sequence events, to compare the duration of events or the intervals between them, and to quantify rates of change of quantities in material reality or in the conscious experience".

Therefore "time is what clocks indicate" is the only useful measurement definition of something we do not know how it is generated.

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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Mon, 31 Jul 2023 15:12 UTC

On Monday, 31 July 2023 at 17:04:36 UTC+2, Paparios wrote:
> El lunes, 31 de julio de 2023 a las 2:29:15 UTC-4, Maciej Wozniak escribió:
> > GPS time, UTC time, TAI time, zone times -
> > they're all culture driven. Like some content of
> > a book.
> > The world is not spinning around the belly button
> > of your precious physics:(. Time, i.e. "what clocks
> > indicate" is not depending on it at all.
> It is clear that you do not know what "time" is. Actually nobody knows what time is. The definition of time involves its measurement:

For sure nobody of your bunch of idiots knows -
no surprise: it's not a physical entity, but a
culture driven one.
Your mystical pseudophilosophy doesn't apply
here, we have UTC time, GPS time, TAI time,
zone times - they're all defined well enough
to know what they are. There is no mystery
you and your fellows could guard, poor
halfbrain.

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Mon, 31 Jul 2023 16:59 UTC

On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:04:36 AM UTC-7, Paparios wrote:
> El lunes, 31 de julio de 2023 a las 2:29:15 UTC-4, Maciej Wozniak escribió:
> > GPS time, UTC time, TAI time, zone times -
> > they're all culture driven. Like some content of
> > a book.
> > The world is not spinning around the belly button
> > of your precious physics:(. Time, i.e. "what clocks
> > indicate" is not depending on it at all.
> It is clear that you do not know what "time" is. Actually nobody knows what time is. The definition of time involves its measurement:
>
> "Time is the continued sequence of existence and events that occurs in an apparently irreversible succession from the past, through the present, into the future. It is a component quantity of various MEASUREMENTS used to sequence events, to compare the duration of events or the intervals between them, and to quantify rates of change of quantities in material reality or in the conscious experience".
>
> Therefore "time is what clocks indicate" is the only useful measurement definition of something we do not know how it is generated.

Time is rate. And that has a temporary order... it is constantly changing.
Temporal is such. It is unsteady.

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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Mon, 31 Jul 2023 18:05 UTC

On Monday, 31 July 2023 at 18:59:37 UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:04:36 AM UTC-7, Paparios wrote:
> > El lunes, 31 de julio de 2023 a las 2:29:15 UTC-4, Maciej Wozniak escribió:
> > > GPS time, UTC time, TAI time, zone times -
> > > they're all culture driven. Like some content of
> > > a book.
> > > The world is not spinning around the belly button
> > > of your precious physics:(. Time, i.e. "what clocks
> > > indicate" is not depending on it at all.
> > It is clear that you do not know what "time" is. Actually nobody knows what time is. The definition of time involves its measurement:
> >
> > "Time is the continued sequence of existence and events that occurs in an apparently irreversible succession from the past, through the present, into the future. It is a component quantity of various MEASUREMENTS used to sequence events, to compare the duration of events or the intervals between them, and to quantify rates of change of quantities in material reality or in the conscious experience".
> >
> > Therefore "time is what clocks indicate" is the only useful measurement definition of something we do not know how it is generated.
> Time is rate. And that has a temporary order... it is constantly changing..
> Temporal is such. It is unsteady.

Ever heard of UTC time? Warsaw time? TAI time?

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Mon, 31 Jul 2023 21:08 UTC

On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:05:04 AM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Monday, 31 July 2023 at 18:59:37 UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:04:36 AM UTC-7, Paparios wrote:
> > > El lunes, 31 de julio de 2023 a las 2:29:15 UTC-4, Maciej Wozniak escribió:
> > > > GPS time, UTC time, TAI time, zone times -
> > > > they're all culture driven. Like some content of
> > > > a book.
> > > > The world is not spinning around the belly button
> > > > of your precious physics:(. Time, i.e. "what clocks
> > > > indicate" is not depending on it at all.
> > > It is clear that you do not know what "time" is. Actually nobody knows what time is. The definition of time involves its measurement:
> > >
> > > "Time is the continued sequence of existence and events that occurs in an apparently irreversible succession from the past, through the present, into the future. It is a component quantity of various MEASUREMENTS used to sequence events, to compare the duration of events or the intervals between them, and to quantify rates of change of quantities in material reality or in the conscious experience".
> > >
> > > Therefore "time is what clocks indicate" is the only useful measurement definition of something we do not know how it is generated.
> > Time is rate. And that has a temporary order... it is constantly changing.
> > Temporal is such. It is unsteady.
> Ever heard of UTC time? Warsaw time? TAI time?

That has to come back around.
That is what you are using your clock for?

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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Mon, 31 Jul 2023 21:38 UTC

On Monday, 31 July 2023 at 23:08:04 UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:05:04 AM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > On Monday, 31 July 2023 at 18:59:37 UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:04:36 AM UTC-7, Paparios wrote:
> > > > El lunes, 31 de julio de 2023 a las 2:29:15 UTC-4, Maciej Wozniak escribió:
> > > > > GPS time, UTC time, TAI time, zone times -
> > > > > they're all culture driven. Like some content of
> > > > > a book.
> > > > > The world is not spinning around the belly button
> > > > > of your precious physics:(. Time, i.e. "what clocks
> > > > > indicate" is not depending on it at all.
> > > > It is clear that you do not know what "time" is. Actually nobody knows what time is. The definition of time involves its measurement:
> > > >
> > > > "Time is the continued sequence of existence and events that occurs in an apparently irreversible succession from the past, through the present, into the future. It is a component quantity of various MEASUREMENTS used to sequence events, to compare the duration of events or the intervals between them, and to quantify rates of change of quantities in material reality or in the conscious experience".
> > > >
> > > > Therefore "time is what clocks indicate" is the only useful measurement definition of something we do not know how it is generated.
> > > Time is rate. And that has a temporary order... it is constantly changing.
> > > Temporal is such. It is unsteady.
> > Ever heard of UTC time? Warsaw time? TAI time?
> That has to come back around.
> That is what you are using your clock for?

So, ever heard about them?

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 by: Laurence Clark Cross - Tue, 1 Aug 2023 17:52 UTC

On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 11:29:15 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> GPS time, UTC time, TAI time, zone times -
> they're all culture driven. Like some content of
> a book.
> The world is not spinning around the belly button
> of your precious physics:(. Time, i.e. "what clocks
> indicate" is not depending on it at all.
The relativists can't even define time when we know time equals distance divided by speed.

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