Not a bit futuristic, it's happening now, time constants finally caught up and blindsided climate scientists.

zeta = 10^21 or a billion tera's

Not to worry about a bit of this- the politicians will figure it out and everything will alright.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/may/15/oceans-have-been-absorbing-the-worlds-extra-heat-but-theres-a-huge-payback

On Wed, 17 May 2023 13:52:56 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>Not a bit futuristic, it's happening now, time constants finally caught up and blindsided climate scientists.

Now that's funny. Thanks.

On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:45:50 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 6:53:04 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > Not a bit futuristic, it's happening now, time constants finally caught up and blindsided climate scientists.
> >
> > zeta = 10^21 or a billion tera's
> >
> > Not to worry about a bit of this- the politicians will figure it out and everything will alright.
> >
> > https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/may/15/oceans-have-been-absorbing-the-worlds-extra-heat-but-theres-a-huge-payback
> Climate porn. Getting excited about the heat stored in the oceans is nuts..
>
> https://phys.org/news/2014-12-percent-earth.html
>
> That water constitutes 0.02% of the earth's mass. The specific heat of water is fairly high so it's a bit more of earth's heat capacity, but still not all that much.
>
> Getting excited about how warm the surfaces of the oceans have got would be more sensible - that's what drives our weather - but if you want to write a bit of attention getting alarmism any few silly numbers can do the trick.

If that isn't an airhead remark I don't what is. Report from Grantham Institute has calculated that without ocean heat absorption Earth would be at 36oC temperature rise by now.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/grantham-institute/public/publications/briefing-papers/Ocean-heat-uptake---Grantham-BP-15.pdf

>
> --
> Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 9:49:50 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> On Wed, 17 May 2023 13:52:56 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Not a bit futuristic, it's happening now, time constants finally caught up and blindsided climate scientists.
> Now that's funny. Thanks.

Mankind has no more than two generations remaining, and that last one won't be pretty. You can only take technology so far, and when it tries to go up against something on this scale, it loses.

On Thu, 18 May 2023 11:02:57 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:45:50?AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
>> On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 6:53:04?AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
>> > Not a bit futuristic, it's happening now, time constants finally caught up and blindsided climate scientists.
>> >
>> > zeta = 10^21 or a billion tera's
>> >
>> > Not to worry about a bit of this- the politicians will figure it out and everything will alright.
>> >
>> > https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/may/15/oceans-have-been-absorbing-the-worlds-extra-heat-but-theres-a-huge-payback
>> Climate porn. Getting excited about the heat stored in the oceans is nuts.
>>
>> https://phys.org/news/2014-12-percent-earth.html
>>
>> That water constitutes 0.02% of the earth's mass. The specific heat of water is fairly high so it's a bit more of earth's heat capacity, but still not all that much.
>>
>> Getting excited about how warm the surfaces of the oceans have got would be more sensible - that's what drives our weather - but if you want to write a bit of attention getting alarmism any few silly numbers can do the trick.
>
>If that isn't an airhead remark I don't what is. Report from Grantham Institute has calculated that without ocean heat absorption Earth would be at 36oC temperature rise by now.
>
>https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/grantham-institute/public/publications/briefing-papers/Ocean-heat-uptake---Grantham-BP-15.pdf
>
>

Things would be a lot different without oceans.

On Thu, 18 May 2023 11:04:50 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 9:49:50?AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 May 2023 13:52:56 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Not a bit futuristic, it's happening now, time constants finally caught up and blindsided climate scientists.
>> Now that's funny. Thanks.
>
>Mankind has no more than two generations remaining, and that last one won't be pretty. You can only take technology so far, and when it tries to go up against something on this scale, it loses.

That's crazy. Will everyone on earth all drop dead one Tuesday
afternoon, the instant the average temp hits the lethal 1.5c rise from
the end of little ice age?

What will happen is that birth rates will decline to zero and then
negative population growth, somewhere below 10 billion, and
productivity will spread and reduce poverty.

THAT is what will blindside the experts.

On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 2:14:32 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> On Thu, 18 May 2023 11:04:50 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 9:49:50?AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> >> On Wed, 17 May 2023 13:52:56 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Not a bit futuristic, it's happening now, time constants finally caught up and blindsided climate scientists.
> >> Now that's funny. Thanks.
> >
> >Mankind has no more than two generations remaining, and that last one won't be pretty. You can only take technology so far, and when it tries to go up against something on this scale, it loses.
> That's crazy. Will everyone on earth all drop dead one Tuesday
> afternoon, the instant the average temp hits the lethal 1.5c rise from
> the end of little ice age?
>
> What will happen is that birth rates will decline to zero and then
> negative population growth, somewhere below 10 billion, and
> productivity will spread and reduce poverty.
>
> THAT is what will blindside the experts.

People will be dying in large numbers from the excessive heat, drought, famine and pestilence.

On Thu, 18 May 2023 11:29:31 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 2:14:32?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 May 2023 11:04:50 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 9:49:50?AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 17 May 2023 13:52:56 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>> >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Not a bit futuristic, it's happening now, time constants finally caught up and blindsided climate scientists.
>> >> Now that's funny. Thanks.
>> >
>> >Mankind has no more than two generations remaining, and that last one won't be pretty. You can only take technology so far, and when it tries to go up against something on this scale, it loses.
>> That's crazy. Will everyone on earth all drop dead one Tuesday
>> afternoon, the instant the average temp hits the lethal 1.5c rise from
>> the end of little ice age?
>>
>> What will happen is that birth rates will decline to zero and then
>> negative population growth, somewhere below 10 billion, and
>> productivity will spread and reduce poverty.
>>
>> THAT is what will blindside the experts.
>
>People will be dying in large numbers from the excessive heat, drought, famine and pestilence.

Keep hoping, but you'll probably be disappointed.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/owpv49n1pg58bll/Climate_Deaths_2.jpg?raw=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0tm8wyli83nt1v4/human-progress.jpg?raw=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jf8rjfh93e13rre/Corn_Yield.jpg?raw=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mebwcus72nmr16p/Leaf_Area_NASA.jpg?raw=1

Plants love warmth and CO2.

On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:10:05 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
> On Thu, 18 May 2023 11:29:31 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >People will be dying in large numbers from the excessive heat, drought, famine and pestilence.
> Keep hoping, but you'll probably be disappointed.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/owpv49n1pg58bll/Climate_Deaths_2.jpg?raw=1

Bad data; time-of-death climate anomaly is not the only way climate change shortens lives.

> https://www.dropbox.com/s/0tm8wyli83nt1v4/human-progress.jpg?raw=1

Huh?

> https://www.dropbox.com/s/jf8rjfh93e13rre/Corn_Yield.jpg?raw=1

Yeah, corn is a standout. Beef, on the other hand, is on decline.

> https://www.dropbox.com/s/mebwcus72nmr16p/Leaf_Area_NASA.jpg?raw=1
>
> Plants love warmth and CO2.

Ya don't eat sargassum.

Weeds in their profusion... aren't nutritious crop plants. CO2 only is useful for
making carbohydrates, NOT proteins and other nutrients. The green color can fool ya.
Don't bother me with what plants want, we're humans.
Here's what I want from John Barleycorn... but the plants don't love it.

<https://genius.com/Jethro-tull-john-barleycorn-lyrics>

On Fri, 19 May 2023 02:34:03 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:10:05?PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 May 2023 11:29:31 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >People will be dying in large numbers from the excessive heat, drought, famine and pestilence.
>> Keep hoping, but you'll probably be disappointed.
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/owpv49n1pg58bll/Climate_Deaths_2.jpg?raw=1
>
>Bad data; time-of-death climate anomaly is not the only way climate change shortens lives.
>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/0tm8wyli83nt1v4/human-progress.jpg?raw=1
>
>Huh?
>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/jf8rjfh93e13rre/Corn_Yield.jpg?raw=1
>
>Yeah, corn is a standout. Beef, on the other hand, is on decline.
>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/mebwcus72nmr16p/Leaf_Area_NASA.jpg?raw=1
>>
>> Plants love warmth and CO2.
>
>Ya don't eat sargassum.
>
>Weeds in their profusion... aren't nutritious crop plants. CO2 only is useful for
>making carbohydrates, NOT proteins and other nutrients.

You and Fred can be as gloomy and depressed and bummed-out as you
want. I'll go the local farmers' market every Saturday morning and buy
beautiful fruits and veggies and huge tasty oysters.

We BBQ the oysters. We also BBQ the beautiful purple onions and, when
we can get them, the giant dark-purple, almost black, asparagus.

https://www.savorysuitcase.com/purple-asparagus/

Seems to me that fresh produce has gotten much better in the last
decade or two, both quality and variety.

I cooked a giant pot of red beans yesterday. The Louisiana classic,
Red Beans And Rice, feeds a decent fraction of the world's population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidney_bean

9% protein. Rice is 3%. You really should hire a kid to teach you how
to use google.

I guess that the 20% DV protein in the beans assumes that you only eat
one serving, which nobody does with mine. The bacon and andouille add
more protein.