Volney wrote:

>> T̶r̶y̶ t̶o̶ m̶a̶k̶e̶ a̶n̶ o̶b̶j̶e̶c̶t̶ g̶o̶ a̶r̶o̶u̶n̶d̶ i̶n̶ c̶i̶r̶c̶l̶e̶s̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶ j̶u̶s̶t̶ o̶n̶e̶ a̶t̶t̶r̶a̶c̶t̶i̶v̶e̶
>> f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶.....y̶o̶u̶ c̶a̶n̶'t̶;
>
> N̶o̶t̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶ a̶i̶r̶ r̶e̶s̶i̶s̶t̶a̶n̶c̶e̶ a̶n̶d̶ f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶. I̶'d̶ h̶a̶v̶e̶ t̶o̶ a̶d̶d̶ a̶ l̶i̶t̶t̶l̶e̶ e̶n̶e̶r̶g̶y̶
> c̶o̶n̶s̶t̶a̶n̶t̶l̶y̶ t̶o̶ c̶o̶m̶p̶e̶n̶s̶a̶t̶e̶ f̶o̶r̶ a̶i̶r̶ r̶e̶s̶i̶s̶t̶a̶n̶c̶e̶. (E̶n̶e̶r̶g̶y̶, n̶o̶t̶ a̶ r̶e̶p̶u̶l̶s̶i̶v̶e̶
> f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶)

friction alone makes wheel rotate. Idiot.

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 10:51:22 AM UTC-8, Dario De filippis
> wrote:
>> Volney wrote:
>>
>> >> T̶r̶y̶ t̶o̶ m̶a̶k̶e̶ a̶n̶ o̶b̶j̶e̶c̶t̶ g̶o̶ a̶r̶o̶u̶n̶d̶ i̶n̶
>> >> c̶i̶r̶c̶l̶e̶s̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶ j̶u̶s̶t̶ o̶n̶e̶ a̶t̶t̶r̶a̶c̶t̶i̶v̶e̶
>> >> f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶.....y̶o̶u̶ c̶a̶n̶'t̶;
>> >
>> > N̶o̶t̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶ a̶i̶r̶ r̶e̶s̶i̶s̶t̶a̶n̶c̶e̶ a̶n̶d̶ f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶.
>> > I̶'d̶ h̶a̶v̶e̶ t̶o̶ a̶d̶d̶ a̶ l̶i̶t̶t̶l̶e̶ e̶n̶e̶r̶g̶y̶
>> > c̶o̶n̶s̶t̶a̶n̶t̶l̶y̶ t̶o̶ c̶o̶m̶p̶e̶n̶s̶a̶t̶e̶ f̶o̶r̶ a̶i̶r̶
>> > r̶e̶s̶i̶s̶t̶a̶n̶c̶e̶. (E̶n̶e̶r̶g̶y̶, n̶o̶t̶ a̶ r̶e̶p̶u̶l̶s̶i̶v̶e̶
>> > f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶)
>>
>> friction alone makes wheel rotate. Idiot.
>
> Friction slows and ends motion instead.

not at all. When you have friction, you have motion. Try again.

In sci.physics Dario De filippis <ioss@delloidl.id> wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 10:51:22 AM UTC-8, Dario De filippis
>> wrote:
>>> Volney wrote:
>>>
>>> >> T̶r̶y̶ t̶o̶ m̶a̶k̶e̶ a̶n̶ o̶b̶j̶e̶c̶t̶ g̶o̶ a̶r̶o̶u̶n̶d̶ i̶n̶
>>> >> c̶i̶r̶c̶l̶e̶s̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶ j̶u̶s̶t̶ o̶n̶e̶ a̶t̶t̶r̶a̶c̶t̶i̶v̶e̶
>>> >> f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶.....y̶o̶u̶ c̶a̶n̶'t̶;
>>> >
>>> > N̶o̶t̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶ a̶i̶r̶ r̶e̶s̶i̶s̶t̶a̶n̶c̶e̶ a̶n̶d̶ f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶.
>>> > I̶'d̶ h̶a̶v̶e̶ t̶o̶ a̶d̶d̶ a̶ l̶i̶t̶t̶l̶e̶ e̶n̶e̶r̶g̶y̶
>>> > c̶o̶n̶s̶t̶a̶n̶t̶l̶y̶ t̶o̶ c̶o̶m̶p̶e̶n̶s̶a̶t̶e̶ f̶o̶r̶ a̶i̶r̶
>>> > r̶e̶s̶i̶s̶t̶a̶n̶c̶e̶. (E̶n̶e̶r̶g̶y̶, n̶o̶t̶ a̶ r̶e̶p̶u̶l̶s̶i̶v̶e̶
>>> > f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶)
>>>
>>> friction alone makes wheel rotate. Idiot.
>>
>> Friction slows and ends motion instead.
>
> not at all. When you have friction, you have motion. Try again.

It appears you have never heard of static friction. Try again.

Jim Pennino wrote:

> In sci.physics Dario De filippis <ioss@delloidl.id> wrote:
>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 10:51:22 AM UTC-8, Dario De filippis
>>> wrote:
>>>> Volney wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >> T̶r̶y̶ t̶o̶ m̶a̶k̶e̶ a̶n̶ o̶b̶j̶e̶c̶t̶ g̶o̶ a̶r̶o̶u̶n̶d̶ i̶n̶
>>>> >> c̶i̶r̶c̶l̶e̶s̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶ j̶u̶s̶t̶ o̶n̶e̶ a̶t̶t̶r̶a̶c̶t̶i̶v̶e̶
>>>> >> f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶.....y̶o̶u̶ c̶a̶n̶'t̶;
>>>> >
>>>> > N̶o̶t̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶ a̶i̶r̶ r̶e̶s̶i̶s̶t̶a̶n̶c̶e̶ a̶n̶d̶
>>>> > f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶.
>>>> > I̶'d̶ h̶a̶v̶e̶ t̶o̶ a̶d̶d̶ a̶ l̶i̶t̶t̶l̶e̶ e̶n̶e̶r̶g̶y̶
>>>> > c̶o̶n̶s̶t̶a̶n̶t̶l̶y̶ t̶o̶ c̶o̶m̶p̶e̶n̶s̶a̶t̶e̶ f̶o̶r̶ a̶i̶r̶
>>>> > r̶e̶s̶i̶s̶t̶a̶n̶c̶e̶. (E̶n̶e̶r̶g̶y̶, n̶o̶t̶ a̶ r̶e̶p̶u̶l̶s̶i̶v̶e̶
>>>> > f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶)
>>>>
>>>> friction alone makes wheel rotate. Idiot.
>>>
>>> Friction slows and ends motion instead.
>>
>> not at all. When you have friction, you have motion. Try again.
>
> It appears y̶o̶u̶ h̶a̶v̶e̶ n̶e̶v̶e̶r̶ h̶e̶a̶r̶d̶ of static friction. Try again.

that's still motion, microscopic scale. You don't undrestand physics. Maybe you are good at something else.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction#/media/File:Static_kinetic_friction_vs_time.png

In sci.physics Dario De filippis <ioss@delloidl.id> wrote:
> Jim Pennino wrote:
>
>> In sci.physics Dario De filippis <ioss@delloidl.id> wrote:
>>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 10:51:22 AM UTC-8, Dario De filippis
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Volney wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >> T̶r̶y̶ t̶o̶ m̶a̶k̶e̶ a̶n̶ o̶b̶j̶e̶c̶t̶ g̶o̶ a̶r̶o̶u̶n̶d̶ i̶n̶
>>>>> >> c̶i̶r̶c̶l̶e̶s̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶ j̶u̶s̶t̶ o̶n̶e̶ a̶t̶t̶r̶a̶c̶t̶i̶v̶e̶
>>>>> >> f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶.....y̶o̶u̶ c̶a̶n̶'t̶;
>>>>> >
>>>>> > N̶o̶t̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶ a̶i̶r̶ r̶e̶s̶i̶s̶t̶a̶n̶c̶e̶ a̶n̶d̶
>>>>> > f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶.
>>>>> > I̶'d̶ h̶a̶v̶e̶ t̶o̶ a̶d̶d̶ a̶ l̶i̶t̶t̶l̶e̶ e̶n̶e̶r̶g̶y̶
>>>>> > c̶o̶n̶s̶t̶a̶n̶t̶l̶y̶ t̶o̶ c̶o̶m̶p̶e̶n̶s̶a̶t̶e̶ f̶o̶r̶ a̶i̶r̶
>>>>> > r̶e̶s̶i̶s̶t̶a̶n̶c̶e̶. (E̶n̶e̶r̶g̶y̶, n̶o̶t̶ a̶ r̶e̶p̶u̶l̶s̶i̶v̶e̶
>>>>> > f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶)
>>>>>
>>>>> friction alone makes wheel rotate. Idiot.
>>>>
>>>> Friction slows and ends motion instead.
>>>
>>> not at all. When you have friction, you have motion. Try again.
>>
>> It appears y̶o̶u̶ h̶a̶v̶e̶ n̶e̶v̶e̶r̶ h̶e̶a̶r̶d̶ of static friction. Try again.
>
> that's still motion, microscopic scale.

Nope.

> You don't undrestand physics. Maybe you are good at something else.

Pot, kettle, black.

>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction#/media/File:Static_kinetic_friction_vs_time.png

Which illustrates static friction with an increasing applied force until
the object moves and the friction becomes kinetic friction.

From the article where you got the graph that you don't understand:

"Static friction is friction between two or more solid objects that are
not moving relative to each other."

Notice the word "not" in that sentence.

Try again.

Jim Pennino wrote:

>>> It appears y̶o̶u̶ h̶a̶v̶e̶ n̶e̶v̶e̶r̶ h̶e̶a̶r̶d̶ of static friction.
>>> Try again.
>>
>> that's still motion, microscopic scale.
>
> Nope.
>
>> You don't undrestand physics. Maybe you are good at something else.
>
> Pot, kettle, black.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction#/media/File:Static_kinetic_friction_vs_time.png
>
> W̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ i̶l̶l̶u̶s̶t̶r̶a̶t̶e̶s̶ s̶t̶a̶t̶i̶c̶ f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶ a̶n̶ i̶n̶c̶r̶e̶a̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ a̶p̶p̶l̶i̶e̶d̶ f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶ u̶n̶t̶i̶l̶
> t̶h̶e̶ o̶b̶j̶e̶c̶t̶ m̶o̶v̶e̶s̶ a̶n̶d̶ t̶h̶e̶ f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ b̶e̶c̶o̶m̶e̶s̶ k̶i̶n̶e̶t̶i̶c̶ f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶.

we must conclude you are an idiot. See the difference in time? What is a force, other then F=ma, the later is *acceleration*. Do you fucking know what an acceleration is, when you also have a difference in time??

these half-engineers know nothing about physics. Which country are we talking about here?

In sci.physics Dario De filippis <ioss@delloidl.id> wrote:
> Jim Pennino wrote:
>
>>>> It appears y̶o̶u̶ h̶a̶v̶e̶ n̶e̶v̶e̶r̶ h̶e̶a̶r̶d̶ of static friction.
>>>> Try again.
>>>
>>> that's still motion, microscopic scale.
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>>> You don't undrestand physics. Maybe you are good at something else.
>>
>> Pot, kettle, black.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction#/media/File:Static_kinetic_friction_vs_time.png
>>
>> W̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ i̶l̶l̶u̶s̶t̶r̶a̶t̶e̶s̶ s̶t̶a̶t̶i̶c̶ f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶ a̶n̶ i̶n̶c̶r̶e̶a̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ a̶p̶p̶l̶i̶e̶d̶ f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶ u̶n̶t̶i̶l̶
>> t̶h̶e̶ o̶b̶j̶e̶c̶t̶ m̶o̶v̶e̶s̶ a̶n̶d̶ t̶h̶e̶ f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ b̶e̶c̶o̶m̶e̶s̶ k̶i̶n̶e̶t̶i̶c̶ f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶.
>
> we must conclude you are an idiot. See the difference in time? What is a force, other then F=ma, the later is *acceleration*. Do you fucking know what an acceleration is, when you also have a difference in time??
>

It is sad that you don't understand such a simple graph.

> these half-engineers know nothing about physics. Which country are we talking about here?

Yet another Russian halfwit trying to convince the world how clever
Russians are through babbling nonsense and childish insults...

Jim Pennino wrote:

>>> Pot, kettle, black.
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction#/media/File:Static_kinetic_friction_vs_time.png
>>>
>>> W̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ i̶l̶l̶u̶s̶t̶r̶a̶t̶e̶s̶ s̶t̶a̶t̶i̶c̶ f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶
>>> w̶i̶t̶h̶ a̶n̶ i̶n̶c̶r̶e̶a̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ a̶p̶p̶l̶i̶e̶d̶ f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶ u̶n̶t̶i̶l̶
>>> t̶h̶e̶ o̶b̶j̶e̶c̶t̶ m̶o̶v̶e̶s̶ a̶n̶d̶ t̶h̶e̶ f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶
>>> b̶e̶c̶o̶m̶e̶s̶ k̶i̶n̶e̶t̶i̶c̶ f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶.
>>
>> we must conclude you are an idiot. See the difference in time? What is a
>> force, other then F=ma, the later is *acceleration*. Do you fucking know
>> what an acceleration is, when you also have a difference in time??
>>
> It is sad that you d̶o̶n̶'t̶ u̶n̶d̶e̶r̶s̶t̶a̶n̶d̶ s̶u̶c̶h̶ a̶ s̶i̶m̶p̶l̶e̶ g̶r̶a̶p̶h̶.

this cretin, not understanding graphs and acceleration is trying
teaching me about physics. Write down the expression for acceleration,
my friend. You have force without acceleration, are you stupid, my friend?

you have the force depicted in the graph, what an idiot.

In sci.physics Dario De filippis <ioss@delloidl.id> wrote:
> Jim Pennino wrote:
>
>>>> Pot, kettle, black.
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction#/media/File:Static_kinetic_friction_vs_time.png
>>>>
>>>> W̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ i̶l̶l̶u̶s̶t̶r̶a̶t̶e̶s̶ s̶t̶a̶t̶i̶c̶ f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶
>>>> w̶i̶t̶h̶ a̶n̶ i̶n̶c̶r̶e̶a̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ a̶p̶p̶l̶i̶e̶d̶ f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶ u̶n̶t̶i̶l̶
>>>> t̶h̶e̶ o̶b̶j̶e̶c̶t̶ m̶o̶v̶e̶s̶ a̶n̶d̶ t̶h̶e̶ f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶
>>>> b̶e̶c̶o̶m̶e̶s̶ k̶i̶n̶e̶t̶i̶c̶ f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶.
>>>
>>> we must conclude you are an idiot. See the difference in time? What is a
>>> force, other then F=ma, the later is *acceleration*. Do you fucking know
>>> what an acceleration is, when you also have a difference in time??
>>>
>> It is sad that you d̶o̶n̶'t̶ u̶n̶d̶e̶r̶s̶t̶a̶n̶d̶ s̶u̶c̶h̶ a̶ s̶i̶m̶p̶l̶e̶ g̶r̶a̶p̶h̶.
>
> this cretin, not understanding graphs and acceleration is trying
> teaching me about physics. Write down the expression for acceleration,
> my friend. You have force without acceleration, are you stupid, my friend?

Push against a T-90 tank with all the force you can muster; does the
tank move, Sergey?

>
> you have the force depicted in the graph, what an idiot.

Actually there are 3 forces depicted in the graph; applied, static
friction and kinetic friction.

If F is the applied force, Fs is the static friction and Fk is the
kinetic friction, the object moves when F>Fs and it moves according to
(F - Fk) = Ma.

But you are just being a trolling ass so there in no point in any
further discussion with you, Sergey.

Jim Pennino wrote:

>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction#/media/
File:Static_kinetic_friction_vs_time.png
>>>>>
>>>>> W̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ i̶l̶l̶u̶s̶t̶r̶a̶t̶e̶s̶ s̶t̶a̶t̶i̶c̶ f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶
>>>>> w̶i̶t̶h̶ a̶n̶ i̶n̶c̶r̶e̶a̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ a̶p̶p̶l̶i̶e̶d̶ f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶
>>>>> u̶n̶t̶i̶l̶ t̶h̶e̶ o̶b̶j̶e̶c̶t̶ m̶o̶v̶e̶s̶ a̶n̶d̶ t̶h̶e̶
>>>>> f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ b̶e̶c̶o̶m̶e̶s̶ k̶i̶n̶e̶t̶i̶c̶ f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶.
>>>>
>>>> we must conclude you are an idiot. See the difference in time? What
>>>> is a force, other then F=ma, the later is *acceleration*. Do you
>>>> fucking know what an acceleration is, when you also have a difference
>>>> in time??
>>>>
>>> It is sad that you d̶o̶n̶'t̶ u̶n̶d̶e̶r̶s̶t̶a̶n̶d̶ s̶u̶c̶h̶ a̶
>>> s̶i̶m̶p̶l̶e̶ g̶r̶a̶p̶h̶.
>>
>> this cretin, not understanding graphs and acceleration is trying
>> teaching me about physics. Write down the expression for acceleration,
>> my friend. You have force without acceleration, are you stupid, my
>> friend?
>
> Push against a T-90 tank with all the force you can muster; does the
> tank move, Sergey?

of course it does, at microscopic level, can't you fucking read. Otherwise
you create force for nothing, forbidden in physics. These usenet users
posting in physics know physics like my ass.

Jim Pennino wrote:

> In sci.physics Dario De filippis <ioss@delloidl.id> wrote:
>> Jim Pennino wrote:
>>
>>>>> Pot, kettle, black.
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction#/media/
File:Static_kinetic_friction_vs_time.png
>>>>>
>>>>> W̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ i̶l̶l̶u̶s̶t̶r̶a̶t̶e̶s̶ s̶t̶a̶t̶i̶c̶ f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶
>>>>> w̶i̶t̶h̶ a̶n̶ i̶n̶c̶r̶e̶a̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ a̶p̶p̶l̶i̶e̶d̶ f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶
>>>>> u̶n̶t̶i̶l̶ t̶h̶e̶ o̶b̶j̶e̶c̶t̶ m̶o̶v̶e̶s̶ a̶n̶d̶ t̶h̶e̶
>>>>> f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ b̶e̶c̶o̶m̶e̶s̶ k̶i̶n̶e̶t̶i̶c̶ f̶r̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶.
>>>>
>>>> we must conclude you are an idiot. See the difference in time? What
>>>> is a force, other then F=ma, the later is *acceleration*. Do you
>>>> fucking know what an acceleration is, when you also have a difference
>>>> in time??
>>>>
>>> It is sad that you d̶o̶n̶'t̶ u̶n̶d̶e̶r̶s̶t̶a̶n̶d̶ s̶u̶c̶h̶ a̶
>>> s̶i̶m̶p̶l̶e̶ g̶r̶a̶p̶h̶.
>>
>> this cretin, not understanding graphs and acceleration is trying
>> teaching me about physics. Write down the expression for acceleration,
>> my friend. You have force without acceleration, are you stupid, my
>> friend?
>
> Push against a T-90 tank with all the force you can muster; does the
> tank move, Sergey?

of course it does, as said, at microscopic level (you see the motion with
a microscope). Otherwise you have a "force" without acceleration, fucking
stoopid. Forbidden by physics.