Mid-Late-Pleistocene we evolved remakably fast: we're not aquatic any more at all: frequent drownings! Why did predom.diving archaic Homo evolve into to predom.wading-walking early sapiens? salmon trek? trout? This easily explains: our less dorsal foramen magnum, loss of platycephaly & supra-orbital torus, our high forehead, chin, loss of pachyosteosclerosis, reduced plantigrady, less wide pelvis + shorter & less horizontal femoral necks, loss of platymeria, our longer tibias, reduced nose, smaller paranasal sinuses & smaller lungs than in neandertals, etc.

Early-Pleist.archaic Homo already used stone tools to collect &/or open shellfish: did the late-Pleist.shift to wading + tools in the hands preadapt to terrestrial walking? But which foods mostly initially? waterside plants that had to be cut? rice & later other grains? Did the shift from shellfish/fish to waterside & later terrestrial ("brain-poor") foods require sapiens' later puberty?

In any case, savanna hunting was only very localized & extremely late, probably Holocene: only incredible imbeciles believe their Pleistocene ancestors ran after antelopes.

On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 7:34:54 AM UTC-5, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Mid-Late-Pleistocene we evolved remakably fast: we're not aquatic any more at all: frequent drownings! Why did predom.diving archaic Homo evolve into to predom.wading-walking early sapiens? salmon trek? trout? This easily explains: our less dorsal foramen magnum, loss of platycephaly & supra-orbital torus, our high forehead, chin, loss of pachyosteosclerosis, reduced plantigrady, less wide pelvis + shorter & less horizontal femoral necks, loss of platymeria, our longer tibias, reduced nose, smaller paranasal sinuses & smaller lungs than in neandertals, etc.
>
> Early-Pleist.archaic Homo already used stone tools to collect &/or open shellfish: did the late-Pleist.shift to wading + tools in the hands preadapt to terrestrial walking? But which foods mostly initially? waterside plants that had to be cut? rice & later other grains? Did the shift from shellfish/fish to waterside & later terrestrial ("brain-poor") foods require sapiens' later puberty?
>
> In any case, savanna hunting was only very localized & extremely late, probably Holocene: only incredible imbeciles believe their Pleistocene ancestors ran after antelopes.

Wading -> diving/backfloating -> wading -> ??

Op zaterdag 18 december 2021 om 17:38:04 UTC+1 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:

> Wading -> diving/backfloating -> wading -> ??

???

It's no difficult, even you can understand:

Mio-Pliocene aquarboreal hominoids,
early-Pleistocene littoral archaic Homo,
late-Pleistocene waiding-walking H.sapiens.

On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 12:14:22 PM UTC-5, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Op zaterdag 18 december 2021 om 17:38:04 UTC+1 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:
> > Wading -> diving/backfloating -> wading -> ??
> ???
>
>
> It's no difficult, even you can understand:
>
> Mio-Pliocene aquarboreal hominoids,
> early-Pleistocene littoral archaic Homo,
> late-Pleistocene waiding-walking H.sapiens.

So wading birds have diving/backfloating ancestors???

Where do you dig up these silly ideas???

Humans are simply grounded apes with inverted bowl nests. Why detour all over when we already have the parsimonious answers?

> Humans are simply grounded apes with inverted bowl nests.

:-DDD

Op zaterdag 18 december 2021 om 13:34:54 UTC+1 schreef littor...@gmail.com:

> Mid-Late-Pleistocene we evolved remakably fast: we're not aquatic any more at all: frequent drownings! Why did predom.diving archaic Homo evolve into to predom.wading-walking early sapiens? salmon trek? trout? This easily explains: our less dorsal foramen magnum, loss of platycephaly & supra-orbital torus, our high forehead, chin, loss of pachyosteosclerosis, reduced plantigrady, less wide pelvis + shorter & less horizontal femoral necks, loss of platymeria, our longer tibias, reduced nose, smaller paranasal sinuses & smaller lungs than in neandertals, etc.

Biologically-anatomically-medically obvious.

> Early-Pleist.archaic Homo already used stone tools to collect &/or open shellfish: did the late-Pleist.shift to wading + tools in the hands preadapt to terrestrial walking? But which foods mostly initially? waterside plants that had to be cut? rice & later other grains? ...

In wading, not only the hands were above the water, but also the mouth: what was the importance of speech in the archaic->sapiens transition?
Human speech became possble thanks to voluntary breath!ng (diving animals) & probably hyoidal descent (see papers of Nishimura, probably for suction-feeding, allowing consonants) & perhaps brain enlargement (DHA etc.).

On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 12:43:34 PM UTC-5, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Op zaterdag 18 december 2021 om 13:34:54 UTC+1 schreef littor...@gmail.com:
> > Mid-Late-Pleistocene we evolved remakably fast: we're not aquatic any more at all: frequent drownings! Why did predom.diving archaic Homo evolve into to predom.wading-walking early sapiens? salmon trek? trout? This easily explains: our less dorsal foramen magnum, loss of platycephaly & supra-orbital torus, our high forehead, chin, loss of pachyosteosclerosis, reduced plantigrady, less wide pelvis + shorter & less horizontal femoral necks, loss of platymeria, our longer tibias, reduced nose, smaller paranasal sinuses & smaller lungs than in neandertals, etc.
> Biologically-anatomically-medically obvious.
>
> > Early-Pleist.archaic Homo already used stone tools to collect &/or open shellfish: did the late-Pleist.shift to wading + tools in the hands preadapt to terrestrial walking? But which foods mostly initially? waterside plants that had to be cut? rice & later other grains? ...
>
> In wading, not only the hands were above the water, but also the mouth: what was the importance of speech in the archaic->sapiens transition?

Silly fantast, Dutch-speaking parrots never wade, Dutch wading birds do not speak Dutch! Cannot get more fantastic than your nonsense. Just let apes be apes, arboreal or terrestrial.
No more marine-maniac mermaids please!
> Human speech became possble thanks to voluntary breath!ng (diving animals) & probably hyoidal descent (see papers of Nishimura, probably for suction-feeding, allowing consonants) & perhaps brain enlargement (DHA etc.).

Nonsense, see G Morgan's work at AAT.io, or did you forget already again?

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DD ~ David ~ Da'ud ~ Diode ~ ∆^¥°∆

Op zaterdag 18 december 2021 om 19:35:20 UTC+1 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:

was miserably unable to say 1 sensible word.

On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 2:01:10 PM UTC-5, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Op zaterdag 18 december 2021 om 19:35:20 UTC+1 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:
>
> was miserably unable to say 1 sensible word.

Exostoses meine kleine tochter? Put your ears underwater and sneeze. Works every time.

Humans sleep in shelters on land.

Op zaterdag 18 december 2021 om 20:14:19 UTC+1 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:

> Exostoses meine kleine tochter? Put your ears underwater and sneeze. Works every time.

Simply look up: ear exostosis.

Op zaterdag 18 december 2021 om 13:34:54 UTC+1 schreef littor...@gmail.com:
> Mid-Late-Pleistocene we evolved remakably fast: we're not aquatic any more at all: frequent drownings! Why did predom.diving archaic Homo evolve into to predom.wading-walking early sapiens? salmon trek? trout? This easily explains: our less dorsal foramen magnum, loss of platycephaly & supra-orbital torus, our high forehead, chin, loss of pachyosteosclerosis, reduced plantigrady, less wide pelvis + shorter & less horizontal femoral necks, loss of platymeria, our longer tibias, reduced nose, smaller paranasal sinuses & smaller lungs than in neandertals, etc.

Each of these *independently* shows, suggests or is best compatible with semi-aquaticness:
-more dorsal for.magnum
-platycephaly + SOT
-no chin
-pachy-osteo-sclerosis (leaves no doubt: neandertals frequently dived for shallow-aquatic sessile foods)
-full plantigrady
-platypelloidy + long & horizontal femoral necks (later movements of legs)
-shorter tibias
-big nose
-large lungs

IOW, only incredible imbeciles believe their Pleistocene ancestors ran after antelopes.

On Sunday, December 19, 2021 at 4:50:27 AM UTC-5, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Op zaterdag 18 december 2021 om 13:34:54 UTC+1 schreef littor...@gmail.com:
> > Mid-Late-Pleistocene we evolved remakably fast: we're not aquatic any more at all: frequent drownings! Why did predom.diving archaic Homo evolve into to predom.wading-walking early sapiens? salmon trek? trout? This easily explains: our less dorsal foramen magnum, loss of platycephaly & supra-orbital torus, our high forehead, chin, loss of pachyosteosclerosis, reduced plantigrady, less wide pelvis + shorter & less horizontal femoral necks, loss of platymeria, our longer tibias, reduced nose, smaller paranasal sinuses & smaller lungs than in neandertals, etc.
> Each of these *independently* shows, suggests or is best compatible with semi-aquaticness:
> -more dorsal for.magnum
> -platycephaly + SOT
> -no chin
> -pachy-osteo-sclerosis (leaves no doubt: neandertals frequently dived for shallow-aquatic sessile foods)
> -full plantigrady
> -platypelloidy + long & horizontal femoral necks (later movements of legs)
> -shorter tibias
> -big nose
> -large lungs
>
> IOW, only incredible imbeciles believe their Pleistocene ancestors ran after antelopes.
Continue to answer yourself, best fantasy !

Op maandag 20 december 2021 om 01:04:57 UTC+1 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:

> > > Mid-Late-Pleistocene we evolved remakably fast: we're not aquatic any more at all: frequent drownings! Why did predom.diving archaic Homo evolve into to predom.wading-walking early sapiens? salmon trek? trout? This easily explains: our less dorsal foramen magnum, loss of platycephaly & supra-orbital torus, our high forehead, chin, loss of pachyosteosclerosis, reduced plantigrady, less wide pelvis + shorter & less horizontal femoral necks, loss of platymeria, our longer tibias, reduced nose, smaller paranasal sinuses & smaller lungs than in neandertals, etc.

> > Each of these *independently* shows, suggests or is best compatible with semi-aquaticness:
> > -more dorsal for.magnum
> > -platycephaly + SOT
> > -no chin
> > -pachy-osteo-sclerosis (leaves no doubt: neandertals frequently dived for shallow-aquatic sessile foods)
> > -full plantigrady
> > -platypelloidy + long & horizontal femoral necks (later movements of legs)
> > -shorter tibias
> > -big nose
> > -large lungs

> Continue to answer yourself, best fantasy !

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