Another one of those 200 year events that's become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html

Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/

CO2 may be good for plants, but drought definitely is not. Europe has a problem.

On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>Another one of those 200 year events that's become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.
>
>https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html
>
>Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.
>
>https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/

Historical records are online. Average temp in PR has risen about 1F
since 1950, which could be blamed on instrumentation changes.

The hottest 5-year period seems to be 1950-1955.

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fstatesummaries.ncics.org%2Fimg%2Ffigure%2Fpr-figure-2.png&tbnid=zL8vPqnfscr6lM&vet=12ahUKEwiRz9yw2rH_AhU-N0QIHXN0AKkQMygDegUIARDDAQ..i&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fstatesummaries.ncics.org%2Fchapter%2Fpr%2F&docid=Ea-pdDu3_9x9sM&w=4096&h=4095&q=puerto%20rico%20temperature%20history&ved=2ahUKEwiRz9yw2rH_AhU-N0QIHXN0AKkQMygDegUIARDDAQ

Rainfall is erratic year-to-year everywhere, so if you search the
world you can find something alarming, if that's what you enjoy.

There are plenty of "places" on earth so there will be lots of
200-year events to be found.

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 1:52:15 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Another one of those 200 year events that's become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.
> >
> >https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html
> >
> >Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.
> >
> >https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/
> Historical records are online. Average temp in PR has risen about 1F
> since 1950, which could be blamed on instrumentation changes.
>
> The hottest 5-year period seems to be 1950-1955.
>
> https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fstatesummaries.ncics..org%2Fimg%2Ffigure%2Fpr-figure-2.png&tbnid=zL8vPqnfscr6lM&vet=12ahUKEwiRz9yw2rH_AhU-N0QIHXN0AKkQMygDegUIARDDAQ..i&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fstatesummaries.ncics.org%2Fchapter%2Fpr%2F&docid=Ea-pdDu3_9x9sM&w=4096&h=4095&q=puerto%20rico%20temperature%20history&ved=2ahUKEwiRz9yw2rH_AhU-N0QIHXN0AKkQMygDegUIARDDAQ
>
> Rainfall is erratic year-to-year everywhere, so if you search the
> world you can find something alarming, if that's what you enjoy.
>
> There are plenty of "places" on earth so there will be lots of
> 200-year events to be found.

You make it sound like it's a localized place. Southeast Asia is a huge expanse of area. A few of those island/ archipelago nations have populations over a hundred million people. The one commonality seems to be they're surrounded by hot tub warm oceans. The hot tub warm oceans are causing a new warmer equilibrium in surface atmospheric temperatures to continue to accept heat.

On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>Another one of those 200 year events that's become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.
>
>https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html
>
>Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.
>
>https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/
>
>CO2 may be good for plants, but drought definitely is not. Europe has a problem.

Too many people taking too many showers is one reason. Many of us here
are old enough to remember when we had to have stand-up washes in tin
bathtubs using just a few inches of water, typically boiled from a
kettle. For the vast majority of people, this weekly ritual was the
extent of their personal hygiene regime. IIRC, I don't think the
French even bothered at all. Today however, the population has
exploded and everyone wants to take a shower every day and sometimes
twice a day. Even those folks in prison expect that much! And who
wants to use a hosepipe to wash the driveway and car with a pressure
washer in the garage? It's easy to see how the massive increase in
demand and consumption has brought about water shortages in the West.
It's nothing to do with "climate change" and all that BS. The last
thing we need is more BS.

On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 11:09:43 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 1:52:15?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Another one of those 200 year events that's become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.
>> >
>> >https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html
>> >
>> >Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.
>> >
>> >https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/
>> Historical records are online. Average temp in PR has risen about 1F
>> since 1950, which could be blamed on instrumentation changes.
>>
>> The hottest 5-year period seems to be 1950-1955.
>>
>> https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fstatesummaries.ncics.org%2Fimg%2Ffigure%2Fpr-figure-2.png&tbnid=zL8vPqnfscr6lM&vet=12ahUKEwiRz9yw2rH_AhU-N0QIHXN0AKkQMygDegUIARDDAQ..i&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fstatesummaries.ncics.org%2Fchapter%2Fpr%2F&docid=Ea-pdDu3_9x9sM&w=4096&h=4095&q=puerto%20rico%20temperature%20history&ved=2ahUKEwiRz9yw2rH_AhU-N0QIHXN0AKkQMygDegUIARDDAQ
>>
>> Rainfall is erratic year-to-year everywhere, so if you search the
>> world you can find something alarming, if that's what you enjoy.
>>
>> There are plenty of "places" on earth so there will be lots of
>> 200-year events to be found.
>
>
>You make it sound like it's a localized place. Southeast Asia is a huge expanse of area. A few of those island/ archipelago nations have populations over a hundred million people. The one commonality seems to be they're surrounded by hot tub warm oceans. The hot tub warm oceans are causing a new warmer equilibrium in surface atmospheric temperatures to continue to accept heat.

Which mneans we'll all die?

On Wed, 07 Jun 2023 19:38:51 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
><bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Another one of those 200 year events that's become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.
>>
>>https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html
>>
>>Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.
>>
>>https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/
>>
>>CO2 may be good for plants, but drought definitely is not. Europe has a problem.
>
>Too many people taking too many showers is one reason. Many of us here
>are old enough to remember when we had to have stand-up washes in tin
>bathtubs using just a few inches of water, typically boiled from a
>kettle. For the vast majority of people, this weekly ritual was the
>extent of their personal hygiene regime. IIRC, I don't think the
>French even bothered at all. Today however, the population has
>exploded and everyone wants to take a shower every day and sometimes
>twice a day. Even those folks in prison expect that much! And who
>wants to use a hosepipe to wash the driveway and car with a pressure
>washer in the garage? It's easy to see how the massive increase in
>demand and consumption has brought about water shortages in the West.
>It's nothing to do with "climate change" and all that BS. The last
>thing we need is more BS.

Households use about 7% of the water in California. The big slurp is
agriculture, growing cash crops like almonds and cotton and rice in
what is officially a desert.

The big household use is in pools and lawns. Nobody needs either. We
shower daily and use about 60 gallons a day. There are people not far
from here who use 1000.

On Wed, 07 Jun 2023 16:21:16 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 07 Jun 2023 19:38:51 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>><bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Another one of those 200 year events that's become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.
>>>
>>>https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html
>>>
>>>Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.
>>>
>>>https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/
>>>
>>>CO2 may be good for plants, but drought definitely is not. Europe has a problem.
>>
>>Too many people taking too many showers is one reason. Many of us here
>>are old enough to remember when we had to have stand-up washes in tin
>>bathtubs using just a few inches of water, typically boiled from a
>>kettle. For the vast majority of people, this weekly ritual was the
>>extent of their personal hygiene regime. IIRC, I don't think the
>>French even bothered at all. Today however, the population has
>>exploded and everyone wants to take a shower every day and sometimes
>>twice a day. Even those folks in prison expect that much! And who
>>wants to use a hosepipe to wash the driveway and car with a pressure
>>washer in the garage? It's easy to see how the massive increase in
>>demand and consumption has brought about water shortages in the West.
>>It's nothing to do with "climate change" and all that BS. The last
>>thing we need is more BS.
>
>Households use about 7% of the water in California. The big slurp is
>agriculture, growing cash crops like almonds and cotton and rice in
>what is officially a desert.
>
>The big household use is in pools and lawns. Nobody needs either. We
>shower daily and use about 60 gallons a day. There are people not far
>from here who use 1000.

Harry and Meghan?

On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 08:55:45 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 07 Jun 2023 16:21:16 -0700, John Larkin
><jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 07 Jun 2023 19:38:51 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>>><bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Another one of those 200 year events that's become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.
>>>>
>>>>https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html
>>>>
>>>>Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.
>>>>
>>>>https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/
>>>>
>>>>CO2 may be good for plants, but drought definitely is not. Europe has a problem.
>>>
>>>Too many people taking too many showers is one reason. Many of us here
>>>are old enough to remember when we had to have stand-up washes in tin
>>>bathtubs using just a few inches of water, typically boiled from a
>>>kettle. For the vast majority of people, this weekly ritual was the
>>>extent of their personal hygiene regime. IIRC, I don't think the
>>>French even bothered at all. Today however, the population has
>>>exploded and everyone wants to take a shower every day and sometimes
>>>twice a day. Even those folks in prison expect that much! And who
>>>wants to use a hosepipe to wash the driveway and car with a pressure
>>>washer in the garage? It's easy to see how the massive increase in
>>>demand and consumption has brought about water shortages in the West.
>>>It's nothing to do with "climate change" and all that BS. The last
>>>thing we need is more BS.
>>
>>Households use about 7% of the water in California. The big slurp is
>>agriculture, growing cash crops like almonds and cotton and rice in
>>what is officially a desert.
>>
>>The big household use is in pools and lawns. Nobody needs either. We
>>shower daily and use about 60 gallons a day. There are people not far
>>from here who use 1000.
>
>Harry and Meghan?

Beverly Hills 90201 has 32 customers who each use over 2.8 million
gallons per year. One home is close to 12 million.

The kgal/day types are in the burbs of the Bay Area, mostly people
with giant lawns.

https://revealnews.org/article/the-wet-prince-of-bel-air-who-is-californias-biggest-water-guzzler/

San Francisco has zero mega-users. We have very few pools or lawns.

But the big slurp is still agriculture, which is depleting ground
water at unsustainable rates. It will be self-limiting after the water
table and the land have sunk enough, and the soil is salty enough to
kill crops.

Most of the crisies blamed on Climate Change are in fact man-made,
plain bad policy and engineering.

Fremont is dreadful. I used to work there.

On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:33:49 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

> Beverly Hills 90201 has 32 customers who each use over 2.8 million
> gallons per year. One home is close to 12 million.
>
> The kgal/day types are in the burbs of the Bay Area, mostly people
> with giant lawns.
>
> https://revealnews.org/article/the-wet-prince-of-bel-air-who-is-californias-biggest-water-guzzler/

If the water goes into plants, it gets evaporated, prevailing winds take the water
vapor eastward, and it falls on land as rain or snow to be renewed freshwater supply.

> San Francisco has zero mega-users. We have very few pools or lawns.

So, it's just a lot of shower stalls and toilets? That 'used' water goes through
treatment, and dumped into the ocean; it doesn't much affect the evaporation
there, so offers little return to the continent. Pools and lawns
are minor 'consumers' because their net effect is redistribution downwind,
not removal to the ocean.

> But the big slurp is still agriculture, which is depleting ground
> water at unsustainable rates. It will be self-limiting after the water
> table and the land have sunk enough, and the soil is salty enough to
> kill crops.
>
> Most of the crisies blamed on Climate Change are in fact man-made,
> plain bad policy and engineering.

Of course, climate change is also man-made, and the causations are bad policies
which JL heartily supports.

On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 07:45:17 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:33:49?AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>
>> Beverly Hills 90201 has 32 customers who each use over 2.8 million
>> gallons per year. One home is close to 12 million.
>>
>> The kgal/day types are in the burbs of the Bay Area, mostly people
>> with giant lawns.
>>
>> https://revealnews.org/article/the-wet-prince-of-bel-air-who-is-californias-biggest-water-guzzler/
>
>If the water goes into plants, it gets evaporated, prevailing winds take the water
>vapor eastward, and it falls on land as rain or snow to be renewed freshwater supply.

But not in California.

>
>> San Francisco has zero mega-users. We have very few pools or lawns.
>
>So, it's just a lot of shower stalls and toilets?

Dishwashers and laundries too. And a lot of gardening, fortunately
mostly small gardens.

My neighbor across the street does have a small farm.

>That 'used' water goes through
>treatment, and dumped into the ocean; it doesn't much affect the evaporation
>there, so offers little return to the continent. Pools and lawns
>are minor 'consumers' because their net effect is redistribution downwind,
>not removal to the ocean.
>
>> But the big slurp is still agriculture, which is depleting ground
>> water at unsustainable rates. It will be self-limiting after the water
>> table and the land have sunk enough, and the soil is salty enough to
>> kill crops.
>>
>> Most of the crisies blamed on Climate Change are in fact man-made,
>> plain bad policy and engineering.
>
>Of course, climate change is also man-made,

That's one theory.

>and the causations are bad policies
>which JL heartily supports.

I like heat in my house. It's 61F outside right now.

On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:58:48 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 07:45:17 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:33:49?AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

> >> Most of the crisies blamed on Climate Change are in fact man-made,
> >> plain bad policy and engineering.
> >
> >Of course, climate change is also man-made,

> That's one theory.

Yeah; it's the credible one.

> >and the causations are bad policies
> >which JL heartily supports.

> I like heat in my house. It's 61F outside right now.

And that's relevant because one cannot make clothing choices?

On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 11:01:17 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:58:48?AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 07:45:17 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:33:49?AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>
>> >> Most of the crisies blamed on Climate Change are in fact man-made,
>> >> plain bad policy and engineering.
>> >
>> >Of course, climate change is also man-made,
>
>> That's one theory.
>
>Yeah; it's the credible one.
>
>> >and the causations are bad policies
>> >which JL heartily supports.
>
>> I like heat in my house. It's 61F outside right now.
>
>And that's relevant because one cannot make clothing choices?

I suppose I could make wife choices, but I like the one I have.

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:39:00 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Another one of those 200 year events that's become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.
> >
> >https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html
> >
> >Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.
> >
> >https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/
> >
> >CO2 may be good for plants, but drought definitely is not. Europe has a problem.
> Too many people taking too many showers is one reason. Many of us here
> are old enough to remember when we had to have stand-up washes in tin
> bathtubs using just a few inches of water, typically boiled from a
> kettle. For the vast majority of people, this weekly ritual was the
> extent of their personal hygiene regime. IIRC, I don't think the
> French even bothered at all. Today however, the population has
> exploded and everyone wants to take a shower every day and sometimes
> twice a day. Even those folks in prison expect that much! And who
> wants to use a hosepipe to wash the driveway and car with a pressure
> washer in the garage? It's easy to see how the massive increase in
> demand and consumption has brought about water shortages in the West.
> It's nothing to do with "climate change" and all that BS. The last
> thing we need is more BS.

You can use a product like this. It's almost as good as bathing, the cloth is saturated with antiseptic and other cleansers.

https://homecare.stryker.com/sage-essential-bath-cloths-7800-7803

On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 18:11:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:39:00?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Another one of those 200 year events that's become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.
>> >
>> >https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html
>> >
>> >Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.
>> >
>> >https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/
>> >
>> >CO2 may be good for plants, but drought definitely is not. Europe has a problem.
>> Too many people taking too many showers is one reason. Many of us here
>> are old enough to remember when we had to have stand-up washes in tin
>> bathtubs using just a few inches of water, typically boiled from a
>> kettle. For the vast majority of people, this weekly ritual was the
>> extent of their personal hygiene regime. IIRC, I don't think the
>> French even bothered at all. Today however, the population has
>> exploded and everyone wants to take a shower every day and sometimes
>> twice a day. Even those folks in prison expect that much! And who
>> wants to use a hosepipe to wash the driveway and car with a pressure
>> washer in the garage? It's easy to see how the massive increase in
>> demand and consumption has brought about water shortages in the West.
>> It's nothing to do with "climate change" and all that BS. The last
>> thing we need is more BS.
>
>You can use a product like this. It's almost as good as bathing, the cloth is saturated with antiseptic and other cleansers.
>
>https://homecare.stryker.com/sage-essential-bath-cloths-7800-7803

I get my best ideas standing in the shower with hot water pouring on
my head. I don't think rubbing with a chemical rag would have the same
effect.

On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 18:11:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:39:00?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Another one of those 200 year events that's become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.
>> >
>> >https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html
>> >
>> >Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.
>> >
>> >https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/
>> >
>> >CO2 may be good for plants, but drought definitely is not. Europe has a problem.
>> Too many people taking too many showers is one reason. Many of us here
>> are old enough to remember when we had to have stand-up washes in tin
>> bathtubs using just a few inches of water, typically boiled from a
>> kettle. For the vast majority of people, this weekly ritual was the
>> extent of their personal hygiene regime. IIRC, I don't think the
>> French even bothered at all. Today however, the population has
>> exploded and everyone wants to take a shower every day and sometimes
>> twice a day. Even those folks in prison expect that much! And who
>> wants to use a hosepipe to wash the driveway and car with a pressure
>> washer in the garage? It's easy to see how the massive increase in
>> demand and consumption has brought about water shortages in the West.
>> It's nothing to do with "climate change" and all that BS. The last
>> thing we need is more BS.
>
>You can use a product like this. It's almost as good as bathing, the cloth is saturated with antiseptic and other cleansers.
>
>https://homecare.stryker.com/sage-essential-bath-cloths-7800-7803

I'd rather something were done about overpopulation.

On Fri, 09 Jun 2023 08:00:30 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 18:11:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
><bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:39:00?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>> On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >Another one of those 200 year events that's become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.
>>> >
>>> >https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html
>>> >
>>> >Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.
>>> >
>>> >https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/
>>> >
>>> >CO2 may be good for plants, but drought definitely is not. Europe has a problem.
>>> Too many people taking too many showers is one reason. Many of us here
>>> are old enough to remember when we had to have stand-up washes in tin
>>> bathtubs using just a few inches of water, typically boiled from a
>>> kettle. For the vast majority of people, this weekly ritual was the
>>> extent of their personal hygiene regime. IIRC, I don't think the
>>> French even bothered at all. Today however, the population has
>>> exploded and everyone wants to take a shower every day and sometimes
>>> twice a day. Even those folks in prison expect that much! And who
>>> wants to use a hosepipe to wash the driveway and car with a pressure
>>> washer in the garage? It's easy to see how the massive increase in
>>> demand and consumption has brought about water shortages in the West.
>>> It's nothing to do with "climate change" and all that BS. The last
>>> thing we need is more BS.
>>
>>You can use a product like this. It's almost as good as bathing, the cloth is saturated with antiseptic and other cleansers.
>>
>>https://homecare.stryker.com/sage-essential-bath-cloths-7800-7803
>
>I'd rather something were done about overpopulation.

Do your part: don't make babies.

On Fri, 09 Jun 2023 05:56:03 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 09 Jun 2023 08:00:30 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 18:11:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>><bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:39:00?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>>>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >Another one of those 200 year events that's become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.
>>>> >
>>>> >https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html
>>>> >
>>>> >Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.
>>>> >
>>>> >https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/
>>>> >
>>>> >CO2 may be good for plants, but drought definitely is not. Europe has a problem.
>>>> Too many people taking too many showers is one reason. Many of us here
>>>> are old enough to remember when we had to have stand-up washes in tin
>>>> bathtubs using just a few inches of water, typically boiled from a
>>>> kettle. For the vast majority of people, this weekly ritual was the
>>>> extent of their personal hygiene regime. IIRC, I don't think the
>>>> French even bothered at all. Today however, the population has
>>>> exploded and everyone wants to take a shower every day and sometimes
>>>> twice a day. Even those folks in prison expect that much! And who
>>>> wants to use a hosepipe to wash the driveway and car with a pressure
>>>> washer in the garage? It's easy to see how the massive increase in
>>>> demand and consumption has brought about water shortages in the West.
>>>> It's nothing to do with "climate change" and all that BS. The last
>>>> thing we need is more BS.
>>>
>>>You can use a product like this. It's almost as good as bathing, the cloth is saturated with antiseptic and other cleansers.
>>>
>>>https://homecare.stryker.com/sage-essential-bath-cloths-7800-7803
>>
>>I'd rather something were done about overpopulation.
>
>Do your part: don't make babies.

WASPS like myself are not the problem. We're demographically doomed
anyway. Procreational success is inversely proportional to IQ, as
anyone with any sense knows.

On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 01:12:55 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

>On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 5:00:38?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 18:11:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:39:00?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> I'd rather something were done about overpopulation.
>
>Me too. I've got a little list. Of course you are on that list, along with a a and Flyguy.

That's always the solution for Communists like yourself though, isn't
it Bill? Just kill off anyone who's not onboard with your loony ideas.

On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 00:12:32 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 01:12:55 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
><bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
>
>>On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 5:00:38?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>> On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 18:11:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:39:00?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>> >> On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>> I'd rather something were done about overpopulation.
>>
>>Me too. I've got a little list. Of course you are on that list, along with a a and Flyguy.
>
>That's always the solution for Communists like yourself though, isn't
>it Bill? Just kill off anyone who's not onboard with your loony ideas.

Fortunately for all of us, Sloman is harmless.

On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 07:18:46 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 00:12:32 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 01:12:55 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
>><bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
>>
>>>On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 5:00:38?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 18:11:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:39:00?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>>> >> On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>> I'd rather something were done about overpopulation.
>>>
>>>Me too. I've got a little list. Of course you are on that list, along with a a and Flyguy.
>>
>>That's always the solution for Communists like yourself though, isn't
>>it Bill? Just kill off anyone who's not onboard with your loony ideas.
>
>Fortunately for all of us, Sloman is harmless.

He might be. But others who follow his ideology are far from harmless
and they have no interest in arriving at a way forward through
consensus.

On Sun, 11 Jun 2023 00:30:20 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 07:18:46 -0700, John Larkin
><jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 00:12:32 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 01:12:55 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
>>><bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 5:00:38?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 18:11:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:39:00?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>>>> >> On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>><snip>
>>>>
>>>>> I'd rather something were done about overpopulation.
>>>>
>>>>Me too. I've got a little list. Of course you are on that list, along with a a and Flyguy.
>>>
>>>That's always the solution for Communists like yourself though, isn't
>>>it Bill? Just kill off anyone who's not onboard with your loony ideas.
>>
>>Fortunately for all of us, Sloman is harmless.
>
>He might be. But others who follow his ideology are far from harmless
>and they have no interest in arriving at a way forward through
>consensus.

Nastiness is not an ideology, it's just a reflex. It doesn't seem to
be working very well for him.

Ignore him.

On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 16:52:23 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 11 Jun 2023 00:30:20 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 07:18:46 -0700, John Larkin
>><jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 00:12:32 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 01:12:55 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
>>>><bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 5:00:38?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 18:11:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:39:00?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>>>>> >> On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>><snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd rather something were done about overpopulation.
>>>>>
>>>>>Me too. I've got a little list. Of course you are on that list, along with a a and Flyguy.
>>>>
>>>>That's always the solution for Communists like yourself though, isn't
>>>>it Bill? Just kill off anyone who's not onboard with your loony ideas.
>>>
>>>Fortunately for all of us, Sloman is harmless.
>>
>>He might be. But others who follow his ideology are far from harmless
>>and they have no interest in arriving at a way forward through
>>consensus.
>
>Nastiness is not an ideology, it's just a reflex. It doesn't seem to
>be working very well for him.
>
>Ignore him.

It seems my newsreader has more sense than I do. I've recently noticed
it's marking Bill's posts as 'read' so I don't tend to notice them as
easily any more. Perhaps Agent have introduced an AI feature to
automatically weed-out time wasters! On reflection I don't think I'll
change it back again. :)

On Sun, 11 Jun 2023 09:19:49 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 16:52:23 -0700, John Larkin
><jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 11 Jun 2023 00:30:20 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 07:18:46 -0700, John Larkin
>>><jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 00:12:32 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 01:12:55 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
>>>>><bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 5:00:38?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 18:11:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:39:00?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>>>>>> >> On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd rather something were done about overpopulation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Me too. I've got a little list. Of course you are on that list, along with a a and Flyguy.
>>>>>
>>>>>That's always the solution for Communists like yourself though, isn't
>>>>>it Bill? Just kill off anyone who's not onboard with your loony ideas.
>>>>
>>>>Fortunately for all of us, Sloman is harmless.
>>>
>>>He might be. But others who follow his ideology are far from harmless
>>>and they have no interest in arriving at a way forward through
>>>consensus.
>>
>>Nastiness is not an ideology, it's just a reflex. It doesn't seem to
>>be working very well for him.
>>
>>Ignore him.
>
>It seems my newsreader has more sense than I do. I've recently noticed
>it's marking Bill's posts as 'read' so I don't tend to notice them as
>easily any more. Perhaps Agent have introduced an AI feature to
>automatically weed-out time wasters! On reflection I don't think I'll
>change it back again. :)

Sounds like Agent has at least minimal AI.

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 7:52:38 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

> Nastiness is not an ideology, it's just...

That's too vague a claim to be testable, followed by a dismissal based
on something fitting the description 'nastiness' not belonging in the category
'ideology', whatever those terms mean here.

> Ignore him.

Is this an instance of the trendy and insidious cancel culture?
Or, is it simply arrogant dismissal?

I cannot easily distinguish between those two.

On Sun, 11 Jun 2023 07:43:25 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

>On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 6:19:57?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 16:52:23 -0700, John Larkin
>> <jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 11 Jun 2023 00:30:20 +0100, Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 07:18:46 -0700, John Larkin
>> >><jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 00:12:32 +0100, Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com>
>> >>>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 01:12:55 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
>> >>>><bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 5:00:38?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> >>>>>> On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 18:11:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:39:00?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> >>>>>> >> On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><snip>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> I'd rather something were done about overpopulation.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Me too. I've got a little list. Of course you are on that list, along with a a and Flyguy.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>That's always the solution for Communists like yourself though, isn't
>> >>>>it Bill? Just kill off anyone who's not onboard with your loony ideas.
>> >>>
>> >>>Fortunately for all of us, Sloman is harmless.
>> >>
>> >>He might be. But others who follow his ideology are far from harmless
>> >>and they have no interest in arriving at a way forward through
>> >>consensus.
>> >
>> >Nastiness is not an ideology, it's just a reflex. It doesn't seem to
>> >be working very well for him.
>> >
>> >Ignore him.
>>
>> It seems my newsreader has more sense than I do.
>
>It would be difficult for it to have less.
>
>> I've recently noticed it's marking Bill's posts as 'read' so I don't tend to notice them as easily any more. Perhaps Agent have introduced an AI feature to automatically weed-out time wasters!
>
>One that discouraged you from posting stuff to forums where you don't know what you are talking about?
>
>AI works in mysterious ways. The neural networks involved are notoriously difficult to unravel.
>
>> On reflection I don't think I'll change it back again. :)
>
>As if you knew how to.

I can still see you've posted a message, Bill. It's just no longer
highlighted so not so easy to spot among other replies. I quite like
it the new way. If by some miracle you change your ways and start
posting useful info again, like you used to once upon a time, then
perhaps the effort required to look into the settings and change
things back will become worthwhile. It's a shame you've become such an
unpleasant misantropist since you moved to Australia... I wonder if
that's got something to do with it.....?