Guido Wugi wrote:

> Op dinsdag 27 december 2022 om 17:30:03 UTC+1 schreef Richard Hachel:
>> > if the disk is rigid how do you expect it to contract? ? ? ?
>> It is not the material of the disk which contracts, but the space
>> itself which supports the disk.
>
> W̶r̶o̶n̶g̶, i̶t̶ i̶s̶ t̶h̶e̶ m̶a̶t̶e̶r̶i̶a̶l̶ w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ a̶r̶r̶a̶n̶g̶e̶s̶ i̶t̶s̶e̶l̶f̶ "a̶l̶o̶n̶g̶ i̶t̶s̶ o̶w̶n̶ i̶n̶e̶r̶t̶i̶a̶l̶
> s̶y̶s̶t̶e̶m̶" (*). H̶e̶n̶c̶e̶ t̶h̶e̶ L̶o̶r̶e̶n̶t̶z c̶o̶n̶t̶r̶a̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ c̶o̶n̶f̶l̶i̶c̶t̶ i̶n̶ t̶h̶e̶ r̶o̶t̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶
> d̶i̶s̶k̶, b̶e̶t̶w̶e̶e̶n̶ s̶u̶c̶c̶e̶s̶s̶i̶v̶e̶ l̶a̶y̶e̶r̶s̶ o̶f̶ m̶a̶t̶e̶r̶i̶a̶l̶, a̶l̶l̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶ t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ d̶i̶f̶f̶e̶r̶e̶n̶t̶
> i̶n̶s̶t̶a̶n̶t̶a̶n̶e̶o̶u̶s̶ i̶n̶e̶r̶t̶i̶a̶l̶ s̶y̶s̶t̶e̶m̶s̶. S̶e̶e̶ a̶l̶s̶o̶ J̶a̶n̶P̶B̶'s̶ a̶n̶s̶w̶e̶r̶s̶, a̶n̶d̶ m̶y̶ v̶i̶d̶e̶o̶.

you two are idiots. Dr. Richard Hachel is 100% correct. In relativity
gravity and the rest is about the space, with or without all in it, which
obey the effects. Not the objects alone.

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Le 27/12/2022 à 23:56, Thurman De palma a écrit :
> Guido Wugi wrote:

> you two are idiots. Dr. Richard Hachel is 100% correct.

What changes is the metric of the space, not the objects.

Objects have no variation "in themselves".

Let's just take the distances and put a distance of 12 light years.

We have x=12.

Now we're going to launch a rocket that will very quickly reach a speed of
0.8c and travel at that speed.

It will cross this distance.

For the terrestrial observer, things are very simple, and it will cross 12
ly of space to go, and 12 ly of space to return.

This is no longer true for the rocket, which will consider that the space
traversed is a reference mollusk, and not only this, but that the
contractions and expansions of space are not homogeneous depending on the
place where I measure them.

For example, in the middle of the journey, the terrestrial observer sees
six light years behind the rocket, and six light years ahead.

It's trivial.

But for the rocket, things are so amazing that even the greatest
physicists in the world have absolutely no idea what is going to happen
(don't laugh, it's not funny, they DON'T KNOW).

For the rocket, at this midpoint, the total distance in space is not 12
ly. But from 20 ly.
These 20 ly are broken down into 18 ly in front, and 2 ly behind.

It is therefore not the "objects" that contract or expand, but space
itself. Like when taking a photo at higher or lower magnification.

I am very surprised that many do not understand this, and that it is
relativistic perspective effects.

I then see the immense difficulty for me to teach them and to take them
further by teaching contractions and dilations as they are, and not as
they believe, with their simple L'=L.sqrt (1-v²/c²).

This equation is not even the correct one, and directly generates what is
called the inextricable paradox of Langevin's traveler studied in apparent
speeds (what we would see in a hyperpowered telescope).

The true equation is : L'=L.sqrt(1-vo²/c²)/(1+cosµ.Vo/c)

and, obviously, idem for the distances :
D'=D.sqrt(1-vo²/c²)/(1+cosµ.Vo/c)

R.H.

On 12/27/2022 3:17 PM, Richard Hachel wrote:
> Le 27/12/2022 à 23:56, Thurman De palma a écrit :
>> Guido Wugi wrote:
>
>> you two are idiots. Dr. Richard Hachel is 100% correct.
>
> What changes is the metric of the space, not the objects.
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