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* Re: There IS no interior of a black holeEmmet Robustelli
`* Re: There IS no interior of a black holeDimitrios Antonelli
 `- Re: There IS no interior of a black holeDimitrios Antonelli

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Re: There IS no interior of a black hole

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From: utt...@etlmms.re (Emmet Robustelli)
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Subject: Re: There IS no interior of a black hole
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 by: Emmet Robustelli - Thu, 29 Dec 2022 19:49 UTC

Mike Fontenot wrote:

> On 12/28/22 9:12 PM, JanPB wrote:
>> [...]
> WOW! I'm really impressed with your knowledge.
> Thanks.

nonsense. That's _repetition_, not knowledge. Math
requires not knowledge, nor _understanding_, but
_getting_used_to_it_. Kiss my ass.

Re: There IS no interior of a black hole

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From: oen...@sitsnnri.in (Dimitrios Antonelli)
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Subject: Re: There IS no interior of a black hole
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 by: Dimitrios Antonelli - Thu, 29 Dec 2022 20:52 UTC

JanPB wrote:

> On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 11:49:19 AM UTC-8, Emmet Robustelli
> wrote:
>> Mike Fontenot wrote:
>>
>> > On 12/28/22 9:12 PM, JanPB wrote:
>> >> [...]
>> > WOW! I'm really impressed with your knowledge.
>> > Thanks.
>> nonsense. That's _repetition_, not knowledge. Math requires not
>> knowledge, nor _understanding_, but _getting_used_to_it_. Kiss my ass.
>
> I don't know what Mike was referring to but understanding something and
> reporting on it is not repetition. The very concept of "understanding"

so you don't even know the *_very_basics_* of
mathematics and derivation, that it doesn't require
understanding, just getting used to it. Where have you
been? You just need to get used _to_pack_and_unpack_
the thing, not understanding it. You just *unpack*.

shall I help you pack and unpack??

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 by: Dimitrios Antonelli - Thu, 29 Dec 2022 23:39 UTC

JanPB wrote:

>> >> nonsense. That's _repetition_, not knowledge.
>> >> Math requires not knowledge, nor _understanding_,
>> >> but _getting_used_to_it_. Kiss my ass.
>> >
>> > I don't know what Mike was referring to but
>> > understanding something and reporting on it is not
>> > repetition. The very concept of "understanding"
>>
>> so you don't even know the *_very_basics_* of
>> mathematics and derivation, that it doesn't require
>> understanding, just getting used to it.
>
> Reread what I wrote.
> In general, read the posts before answering them.

it appears that you don't read. Math is about doing it,
so you do the same next time you are doing it. That's
repetition. It's NOT _understanding_.

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