I've two accounts in Mail.app. Both have a mailbox titled Conversation
History. I didn't create them, and there has never been anything in either.

What are they for? Presumably they are "smart" in some way.

John.

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In message <ss63se$cl2$1@dont-email.me> John Hill <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:

> I've two accounts in Mail.app. Both have a mailbox titled Conversation
> History. I didn't create them, and there has never been anything in either.

I have no such mailboxes. Are these, perhaps, mailboxes in your
accounts?

> What are they for? Presumably they are "smart" in some way.

the various "smart" mailboxes can be accessed via the "Edit" menu (top
right of the mailbox sidebar) and are:

VIP, All Inboxes, Unread, To or CC, Flagged, Attachments, Today, Thread
Notifications, Muted Threads, All Drafts, All Sent, All trash, and All
Archives.

What sorts of accounts are these? Maybe it's a gmail thing? (I have a
gmail account, but not on my iPad/iPhone).

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something is impossible, he is probably wrong.

On 2022-01-18, John Hill <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> I've two accounts in Mail.app. Both have a mailbox titled Conversation
> History. I didn't create them, and there has never been anything in either.
>
> What are they for? Presumably they are "smart" in some way.

IIRC, that's a Microsoft feature. Did you access these mail accounts
with a Microsoft product in the past?

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Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> In message <ss63se$cl2$1@dont-email.me> John Hill <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> I've two accounts in Mail.app. Both have a mailbox titled Conversation
>> History. I didn't create them, and there has never been anything in either.
>
> I have no such mailboxes. Are these, perhaps, mailboxes in your
> accounts?
>
>> What are they for? Presumably they are "smart" in some way.
>
> the various "smart" mailboxes can be accessed via the "Edit" menu (top
> right of the mailbox sidebar) and are:
>
> VIP, All Inboxes, Unread, To or CC, Flagged, Attachments, Today, Thread
> Notifications, Muted Threads, All Drafts, All Sent, All trash, and All
> Archives.
>
> What sorts of accounts are these? Maybe it's a gmail thing? (I have a
> gmail account, but not on my iPad/iPhone).

One is Outlook, one is Exchange. Both come under the Microsoft flag.

John.

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2022-01-18, John Hill <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>> I've two accounts in Mail.app. Both have a mailbox titled Conversation
>> History. I didn't create them, and there has never been anything in either.
>>
>> What are they for? Presumably they are "smart" in some way.
>
> IIRC, that's a Microsoft feature. Did you access these mail accounts
> with a Microsoft product in the past?
>

No, never. But both are Microsoft accounts, one is Outlook and the other is
Exchange.

I'd still like to know what they are supposed to be for, and if I can
safely delete them (assuming they're not locked in)

John.

--
Winning isn't everything, but losing isn't anything - Snoopy.

On 2022-01-18, John Hill <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2022-01-18, John Hill <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've two accounts in Mail.app. Both have a mailbox titled Conversation
>>> History. I didn't create them, and there has never been anything in either.
>>>
>>> What are they for? Presumably they are "smart" in some way.
>>
>> IIRC, that's a Microsoft feature. Did you access these mail accounts
>> with a Microsoft product in the past?
>
> No, never. But both are Microsoft accounts, one is Outlook and the other is
> Exchange.

It's still a Microsoft feature. Take it up with them.

> I'd still like to know what they are supposed to be for, and if I can
> safely delete them (assuming they're not locked in)

Messages you receive from others while you are away in Skype for
Business appear there, which may or may not be useful to you. At least
that's how it has worked for me in the past while working for
corporations that use both Exchange, Outlook, and Skype for Business. It
wouldn't surprise me if other Microsoft apps also integrate with it. I
haven't ever bothered to look into it further.

I have no idea what will happen if you try to delete them, but if they
are empty, I can't see the harm.

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In message <ss7438$ghl$1@dont-email.me> John Hill <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
> Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>> In message <ss63se$cl2$1@dont-email.me> John Hill <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've two accounts in Mail.app. Both have a mailbox titled Conversation
>>> History. I didn't create them, and there has never been anything in either.
>>
>> I have no such mailboxes. Are these, perhaps, mailboxes in your
>> accounts?
>>
>>> What are they for? Presumably they are "smart" in some way.
>>
>> the various "smart" mailboxes can be accessed via the "Edit" menu (top
>> right of the mailbox sidebar) and are:
>>
>> VIP, All Inboxes, Unread, To or CC, Flagged, Attachments, Today, Thread
>> Notifications, Muted Threads, All Drafts, All Sent, All trash, and All
>> Archives.
>>
>> What sorts of accounts are these? Maybe it's a gmail thing? (I have a
>> gmail account, but not on my iPad/iPhone).

> One is Outlook, one is Exchange. Both come under the Microsoft flag.

I think JR has covered this.

I will add that chances are very good that 1) you will not be able to
delete these folders or if you do delete them 2) they will come back.

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Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> In message <ss7438$ghl$1@dont-email.me> John Hill <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>> Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>>> In message <ss63se$cl2$1@dont-email.me> John Hill <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've two accounts in Mail.app. Both have a mailbox titled Conversation
>>>> History. I didn't create them, and there has never been anything in either.
>>>
>>> I have no such mailboxes. Are these, perhaps, mailboxes in your
>>> accounts?
>>>
>>>> What are they for? Presumably they are "smart" in some way.
>>>
>>> the various "smart" mailboxes can be accessed via the "Edit" menu (top
>>> right of the mailbox sidebar) and are:
>>>
>>> VIP, All Inboxes, Unread, To or CC, Flagged, Attachments, Today, Thread
>>> Notifications, Muted Threads, All Drafts, All Sent, All trash, and All
>>> Archives.
>>>
>>> What sorts of accounts are these? Maybe it's a gmail thing? (I have a
>>> gmail account, but not on my iPad/iPhone).
>
>> One is Outlook, one is Exchange. Both come under the Microsoft flag.
>
> I think JR has covered this.
>
> I will add that chances are very good that 1) you will not be able to
> delete these folders or if you do delete them 2) they will come back.
>
>

Well, they seem to be harmless, just clutter. I'll just ignore them FTTB.

John.

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On 18 Jan 2022 at 22:27:51 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2022-01-18, John Hill <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> On 2022-01-18, John Hill <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've two accounts in Mail.app. Both have a mailbox titled Conversation
>>>> History. I didn't create them, and there has never been anything in either.
>>>>
>>>> What are they for? Presumably they are "smart" in some way.
>>>
>>> IIRC, that's a Microsoft feature. Did you access these mail accounts
>>> with a Microsoft product in the past?
>>
>> No, never. But both are Microsoft accounts, one is Outlook and the other is
>> Exchange.
>
> It's still a Microsoft feature. Take it up with them.
>
>> I'd still like to know what they are supposed to be for, and if I can
>> safely delete them (assuming they're not locked in)
>
> Messages you receive from others while you are away in Skype for
> Business appear there, which may or may not be useful to you. At least
> that's how it has worked for me in the past while working for
> corporations that use both Exchange, Outlook, and Skype for Business. It
> wouldn't surprise me if other Microsoft apps also integrate with it. I
> haven't ever bothered to look into it further.
>
> I have no idea what will happen if you try to delete them, but if they
> are empty, I can't see the harm.

The Outlook one is gone, but I cannot delete the Exchange one - it won't let
me. Not surprised, "They" control more and more of what we cn do. Hence the
sig.

John.

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Modern computing: Computers do what they want to do, no matter what you tell them to do.

In message <sse4rq$15i$1@dont-email.me> John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 18 Jan 2022 at 22:27:51 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

>> On 2022-01-18, John Hill <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2022-01-18, John Hill <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I've two accounts in Mail.app. Both have a mailbox titled Conversation
>>>>> History. I didn't create them, and there has never been anything in either.
>>>>>
>>>>> What are they for? Presumably they are "smart" in some way.
>>>>
>>>> IIRC, that's a Microsoft feature. Did you access these mail accounts
>>>> with a Microsoft product in the past?
>>>
>>> No, never. But both are Microsoft accounts, one is Outlook and the other is
>>> Exchange.
>>
>> It's still a Microsoft feature. Take it up with them.
>>
>>> I'd still like to know what they are supposed to be for, and if I can
>>> safely delete them (assuming they're not locked in)
>>
>> Messages you receive from others while you are away in Skype for
>> Business appear there, which may or may not be useful to you. At least
>> that's how it has worked for me in the past while working for
>> corporations that use both Exchange, Outlook, and Skype for Business. It
>> wouldn't surprise me if other Microsoft apps also integrate with it. I
>> haven't ever bothered to look into it further.
>>
>> I have no idea what will happen if you try to delete them, but if they
>> are empty, I can't see the harm.

> The Outlook one is gone, but I cannot delete the Exchange one - it won't let
> me. Not surprised, "They" control more and more of what we cn do. Hence the
> sig.

I would never sign in to an Exchange server on my own device as it gives
far too much access and permission to the dunderheads running the
Exchange server. If I have to use Exchange, it has to be on their
hardware (which I will also not sign in to any personal account of any
kind).

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On 21 Jan 2022 at 11:42:21 GMT, "Lewis" <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

> In message <sse4rq$15i$1@dont-email.me> John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> On 18 Jan 2022 at 22:27:51 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>> On 2022-01-18, John Hill <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-01-18, John Hill <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've two accounts in Mail.app. Both have a mailbox titled Conversation
>>>>>> History. I didn't create them, and there has never been anything in either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What are they for? Presumably they are "smart" in some way.
>>>>>
>>>>> IIRC, that's a Microsoft feature. Did you access these mail accounts
>>>>> with a Microsoft product in the past?
>>>>
>>>> No, never. But both are Microsoft accounts, one is Outlook and the other is
>>>> Exchange.
>>>
>>> It's still a Microsoft feature. Take it up with them.
>>>
>>>> I'd still like to know what they are supposed to be for, and if I can
>>>> safely delete them (assuming they're not locked in)
>>>
>>> Messages you receive from others while you are away in Skype for
>>> Business appear there, which may or may not be useful to you. At least
>>> that's how it has worked for me in the past while working for
>>> corporations that use both Exchange, Outlook, and Skype for Business. It
>>> wouldn't surprise me if other Microsoft apps also integrate with it. I
>>> haven't ever bothered to look into it further.
>>>
>>> I have no idea what will happen if you try to delete them, but if they
>>> are empty, I can't see the harm.
>
>> The Outlook one is gone, but I cannot delete the Exchange one - it won't let
>> me. Not surprised, "They" control more and more of what we cn do. Hence the
>> sig.
>
> I would never sign in to an Exchange server on my own device as it gives
> far too much access and permission to the dunderheads running the
> Exchange server. If I have to use Exchange, it has to be on their
> hardware (which I will also not sign in to any personal account of any
> kind).

I tend to agree with you. But I had little choice in the matter; an
organisation that has provided me with a drop box address for around 20 years
decided to convert it to an Exchange account.

Over the years I had used it as a login address for a huge (for me) number of
web sites, on the grounds that if a "real" account to which it was directed
failed, I could change the destination. This did in fact happen some years
ago, and saved me a lot of hassle.

I don't have concern that Microsoft is suddenly going to go belly up, and even
it it did the organisation would sort it for us all. And the prospect of going
through a large number of logins and changing all the details (and in some
cases having to open new accounts) is too much.

Since I am many years retired, I don't have any devices but my own. So I'm
stuck.

John.
--
Classic computing: Computers do what you tell them to do, not what you want them to do.
Modern computing: Computers do what they want to do, no matter what you tell them to do.

On 2022-01-18, John Hill <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> I've two accounts in Mail.app. Both have a mailbox titled Conversation
> History. I didn't create them, and there has never been anything in
> either.
>
> What are they for? Presumably they are "smart" in some way.

That's a Microsoft feature (typically associated with Outlook) that was
used to store Skype/Teams/etc messages you received while you were away.
It's possible these accounts were previously used in Outlook.

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On 25 Sep 2023 at 16:55:04 BST, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2022-01-18, John Hill <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>> I've two accounts in Mail.app. Both have a mailbox titled Conversation
>> History. I didn't create them, and there has never been anything in
>> either.
>>
>> What are they for? Presumably they are "smart" in some way.
>
> That's a Microsoft feature (typically associated with Outlook) that was
> used to store Skype/Teams/etc messages you received while you were away.
> It's possible these accounts were previously used in Outlook.

Thank you. I think I can safely ignore them!

I have used Skype inthe past, but not Teams, Skype seems to be obsolete - does
it still exist?

John.

--
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On 9/26/23 13:34, John Hill wrote:
> On 25 Sep 2023 at 16:55:04 BST, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-01-18, John Hill <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've two accounts in Mail.app. Both have a mailbox titled Conversation
>>> History. I didn't create them, and there has never been anything in
>>> either.
>>>
>>> What are they for? Presumably they are "smart" in some way.
>>
>> That's a Microsoft feature (typically associated with Outlook) that was
>> used to store Skype/Teams/etc messages you received while you were away.
>> It's possible these accounts were previously used in Outlook.
>
> Thank you. I think I can safely ignore them!
>
> I have used Skype inthe past, but not Teams, Skype seems to be obsolete - does
> it still exist?
>
> John.
>

I'd presume that it would.
I miss Skype..
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On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 18:34:30 -0000 (UTC), John Hill
<watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>On 25 Sep 2023 at 16:55:04 BST, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-01-18, John Hill <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've two accounts in Mail.app. Both have a mailbox titled Conversation
>>> History. I didn't create them, and there has never been anything in
>>> either.
>>>
>>> What are they for? Presumably they are "smart" in some way.
>>
>> That's a Microsoft feature (typically associated with Outlook) that was
>> used to store Skype/Teams/etc messages you received while you were away.
>> It's possible these accounts were previously used in Outlook.
>
>Thank you. I think I can safely ignore them!
>
>I have used Skype inthe past, but not Teams, Skype seems to be obsolete - does
>it still exist?

From the Wicky-P: "As of February 2023, Skype was used by 36 million
people each day."

So, it looks like it possibly does. :)

J.

>
>John.

On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 18:34:30 -0000 (UTC), John Hill
<watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>On 25 Sep 2023 at 16:55:04 BST, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-01-18, John Hill <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've two accounts in Mail.app. Both have a mailbox titled Conversation
>>> History. I didn't create them, and there has never been anything in
>>> either.
>>>
>>> What are they for? Presumably they are "smart" in some way.
>>
>> That's a Microsoft feature (typically associated with Outlook) that was
>> used to store Skype/Teams/etc messages you received while you were away.
>> It's possible these accounts were previously used in Outlook.
>
>Thank you. I think I can safely ignore them!

As an irrelevancy, would *deleting* those folders kill anything
valuable? I know it would save very little HD space but it might make
the screen real estate a little less crowded.

I assume MS would revive them automagically if their softwares ever
need them for anything?

J.