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+* Re: Toyota Solid State BatteryJohn Larkin
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 by: Dean Hoffman - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:51 UTC

It supposedly will give a vehicle 900 mile range someday. No details.
<https://electrek.co/2023/06/13/toyota-claims-solid-state-ev-battery-tech-breakthrough/>

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 by: Eddy Lee - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 12:49 UTC

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 3:51:17 AM UTC-7, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> It supposedly will give a vehicle 900 mile range someday. No details.
> <https://electrek.co/2023/06/13/toyota-claims-solid-state-ev-battery-tech-breakthrough/>

Only problem is money. The graph indicates cost of +40% more. To pack 2x to 3x more cells with 40% more dollars. We are looking into $1/4M area.

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 by: John Larkin - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 14:42 UTC

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 03:51:12 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
<deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:

> It supposedly will give a vehicle 900 mile range someday. No details.
><https://electrek.co/2023/06/13/toyota-claims-solid-state-ev-battery-tech-breakthrough/>

Higher battery energy density is great, but will make the batteries
burn or explode even worse than the existing ones.

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 by: Ricky - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 16:42 UTC

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 6:51:17 AM UTC-4, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> It supposedly will give a vehicle 900 mile range someday. No details.
> <https://electrek.co/2023/06/13/toyota-claims-solid-state-ev-battery-tech-breakthrough/>

Yes, someday we will all carry phones with us and see the people we are talking to. Oh, wait, we do have that!

https://static.demilked.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/6058534f01954-retro-people-future-imagination-2-605360c265d05__700.jpg

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Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

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 by: Ricky - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 16:44 UTC

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 10:43:19 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 03:51:12 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
> <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It supposedly will give a vehicle 900 mile range someday. No details.
> ><https://electrek.co/2023/06/13/toyota-claims-solid-state-ev-battery-tech-breakthrough/>
> Higher battery energy density is great, but will make the batteries
> burn or explode even worse than the existing ones.

Yes, it will be almost as bad as gasoline!

It's funny that at other times, Larkin has talked about how impractical battery cars are because the energy density of batteries is so LOW!

Larkin is a strange guy. He can't even remember which way he is arguing a topic. I guess he's getting old.

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 by: Phil Hobbs - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 17:48 UTC

On 2023-06-14 10:42, John Larkin wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 03:51:12 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
> <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It supposedly will give a vehicle 900 mile range someday. No details.
>> <https://electrek.co/2023/06/13/toyota-claims-solid-state-ev-battery-tech-breakthrough/>
>
> Higher battery energy density is great, but will make the batteries
> burn or explode even worse than the existing ones.
>

Particularly when you're dumping a megawatt into it, to charge it in the
time taken to gas up a real car. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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 by: John Larkin - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 18:01 UTC

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 13:48:21 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

>On 2023-06-14 10:42, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 03:51:12 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
>> <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It supposedly will give a vehicle 900 mile range someday. No details.
>>> <https://electrek.co/2023/06/13/toyota-claims-solid-state-ev-battery-tech-breakthrough/>
>>
>> Higher battery energy density is great, but will make the batteries
>> burn or explode even worse than the existing ones.
>>
>
>Particularly when you're dumping a megawatt into it, to charge it in the
>time taken to gas up a real car. ;)
>
>Cheers
>
>Phil Hobbs

A gasoline station pump is equivalent to more like 6 megawatts of
usable power.

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