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* Re: Kinetic Energy formula check - a series of short burn rockets,Otto Fiscella
`* Re: Kinetic Energy formula check - a series of short burn rockets,Thomas Heger
 `* Re: Kinetic Energy formula check - a series of short burn rockets, and see how tTom Roberts
  `* Re: Kinetic Energy formula check - a series of short burn rockets,Thomas Heger
   `* Re: Kinetic Energy formula check - a series of short burn rockets,Faustino Biondo
    `* Re: Kinetic Energy formula check - a series of short burn rockets,Thomas Heger
     +- Re: Kinetic Energy formula check - a series of short burn rockets,Baldomero De filippis
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     |`* Re: Kinetic Energy formula check - a series of short burn rockets,Thomas Heger
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     `* Re: Kinetic Energy formula check - a series of short burn rockets,Baldomero De filippis
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Subject: Re: Kinetic Energy formula check - a series of short burn rockets,
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 by: Otto Fiscella - Thu, 12 Jan 2023 16:51 UTC

Thomas Heger wrote:

> Momentum and kinetic energy adress different things, but are closely
> related. I chose as example a cannon ball flying through an empty
> gravitation-free SRT like space.

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 by: Thomas Heger - Fri, 13 Jan 2023 07:23 UTC

Am 12.01.2023 um 17:51 schrieb Otto Fiscella:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>
>> Momentum and kinetic energy adress different things, but are closely
>> related. I chose as example a cannon ball flying through an empty
>> gravitation-free SRT like space.
>
> wow, forgot the other _deep_scientist_ in Relativity. Corruption all
> levels, in capitalism, my friend.
>

In SRT Einstein used the velocity v, but meant velocity of an object
relative to space.

But that definition would violate the very idea of SRT itself.

I meant, that SRT-like movements would require to different 'anchors' to
measure velocity against like the relation to a target, which a
cannon-ball hits.

The setting of SRT would actually allow to use other frames of
references as 'achors'. But in this case velocity v would become a
variable. But that could (for different v) alter the relation between
inertia and kinetic energy of a connon-ball in flight, just by choosing
a different coordinate system, what cannot possibly be the case.

TH

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 by: Tom Roberts - Sat, 14 Jan 2023 02:24 UTC

On 1/13/23 1:23 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> In SRT Einstein used the velocity v, but meant velocity of an object
> relative to space.

You just keep making stuff up and pretending it is true. This is
BLATANTLY WRONG. If you had actually read Einstein's 1905 paper on SR,
you would know that every velocity he mentioned was relative to a
specified set of inertial coordinates.

> [.... more nonsensical, made-up stuff]

His paper is quite clear: no "anchors" or "targets" are ever used to
measure velocities; each and every time he used a set of inertial
coordinates.

Tom Roberts

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 by: Thomas Heger - Sat, 14 Jan 2023 09:00 UTC

Am 14.01.2023 um 03:24 schrieb Tom Roberts:
> On 1/13/23 1:23 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> In SRT Einstein used the velocity v, but meant velocity of an object
>> relative to space.
>
> You just keep making stuff up and pretending it is true. This is
> BLATANTLY WRONG. If you had actually read Einstein's 1905 paper on SR,
> you would know that every velocity he mentioned was relative to a
> specified set of inertial coordinates.

This 'specified set of coordinates' needs to be specidied, too.
Therefore, we need another set of specified coordinates to specify the
previous ones.

And so on and on, with infinite regress.

>
>> [.... more nonsensical, made-up stuff]
>
> His paper is quite clear: no "anchors" or "targets" are ever used to
> measure velocities; each and every time he used a set of inertial
> coordinates.
>

He could have used 'mumble' also (instead of 'inertial coordinates').

Contrary to your view, you need a starting point for a position vector.
And that starting point needs also a vector, which defines, where that
point is located. (and so forth...)

TH

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 by: Faustino Biondo - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 19:19 UTC

Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am 23.01.2023 um 22:43 schrieb Tom Roberts:
>> N̶o̶ m̶a̶t̶t̶e̶r̶, a̶s̶ S̶R̶ c̶a̶n̶ b̶e̶ E̶X̶T̶R̶E̶M̶E̶L̶Y̶ u̶s̶e̶f̶u̶l̶ -- i̶t̶ i̶s̶ t̶h̶e̶ l̶o̶c̶a̶l̶ l̶i̶m̶i̶t̶ o̶f̶ G̶R̶
>> (w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ h̶a̶s̶ n̶o̶ s̶u̶c̶h̶ l̶i̶m̶i̶t̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶). So SR is used to accurately model
>> experiments and physical situation in which its assumptions are
>> approximately valid. This includes every particle accelerator on the
>> planet, and every experiment in particle physics, etc.

idiot. SR has nothing to do with GR. Different domains and everything. You
don't understand the math behind.

> I would say, that SR is simply wrong and based on faulty concepts.
> It is also not the local limit to GR, but was based on wrong
> cosmological concepts and bad math.
> Whether GR is much better, I cannot say, but assume it is.

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country. This kind of bitches thinks the world goes through their vagina.

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 by: Thomas Heger - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 08:53 UTC

Am 25.01.2023 um 20:19 schrieb Faustino Biondo:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>
>> Am 23.01.2023 um 22:43 schrieb Tom Roberts:
>>> N̶o̶ m̶a̶t̶t̶e̶r̶, a̶s̶ S̶R̶ c̶a̶n̶ b̶e̶ E̶X̶T̶R̶E̶M̶E̶L̶Y̶ u̶s̶e̶f̶u̶l̶ -- i̶t̶ i̶s̶ t̶h̶e̶ l̶o̶c̶a̶l̶ l̶i̶m̶i̶t̶ o̶f̶ G̶R̶
>>> (w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ h̶a̶s̶ n̶o̶ s̶u̶c̶h̶ l̶i̶m̶i̶t̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶). So SR is used to accurately model
>>> experiments and physical situation in which its assumptions are
>>> approximately valid. This includes every particle accelerator on the
>>> planet, and every experiment in particle physics, etc.
>
> idiot. SR has nothing to do with GR. Different domains and everything. You
> don't understand the math behind.
>
>> I would say, that SR is simply wrong and based on faulty concepts.
>> It is also not the local limit to GR, but was based on wrong
>> cosmological concepts and bad math.
>> Whether GR is much better, I cannot say, but assume it is.
>
> fascist cacamerica putted again at war gearmony with Russia. One more
> time. For the reason Russia gave then energy for industry too cheap. The
> gearmons don't masticate energy sold too cheap.

Germans don't like the conflict and are totally against a war with Russia.

It's not really a question about energy sources and not even about the
Ukraine.

Germans had several conflicts with Russia which all turned out to be
extremely desasterous.

We Germans had the hope of good neighborhood with Russia and possible
cooperations in fields, where that is possible.

Russians and Germans are also relatively close 'relatives' in ethnicity
and culture.

Ukraine in contrast has rather low reputation in Europe and ranks
somewhat below Albania in respect to political culture and safety of the
population.

We Germans also don't want any part of Ukraine and nothing of its resources.

It's simply not our war and we hope the best this madness will stop soon.

TH

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 by: Baldomero De filippi - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 21:36 UTC

Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Thursday, 26 January 2023 at 09:53:28 UTC+1, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Ukraine in contrast has rather low reputation in Europe and ranks
>> somewhat below Albania in respect to political culture and safety of
>> the population.
>
> T̶h̶e̶ s̶a̶f̶e̶t̶y̶ o̶f̶ t̶h̶e̶ U̶k̶r̶a̶i̶n̶i̶a̶n̶ p̶o̶p̶u̶l̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ i̶s̶ r̶a̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ l̶o̶w̶ n̶o̶w̶, u̶n̶d̶e̶r̶ R̶u̶s̶s̶i̶a̶n̶
> b̶o̶m̶b̶s̶, i̶n̶d̶e̶e̶d̶. B̶u̶t̶ I̶ s̶t̶i̶l̶l̶ e̶s̶t̶e̶e̶m̶ t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ p̶o̶l̶i̶t̶i̶c̶a̶l̶ c̶u̶l̶t̶u̶r̶e̶ m̶u̶c̶h̶,
> m̶u̶c̶h̶ m̶o̶r̶e̶ t̶h̶a̶n̶ P̶u̶t̶i̶n̶'s̶.

what population, you fucking idiot. The nazi uKraine is a big business for
the */_khazar_zelenske__/*and khazar *_bidan_clan_family_*. It's all about
the business. The fools cannon fodder are dying for the stinking braindead
khazar cocaine zelenske, you disgusting subhuman excrement. Siberia is
waiting for you, the rest of your stinking polak life.

Zelensky Admits: “Ukraine War Is Good For Business!”
https://youtu.be/NtEglfF8030

Arestovich Admits Russia's First Phase Was Deliberately "Soft" - Didn't
Want To Hurt Many People
https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/%76%69%64%65%6f/jWHYHthzz1AI

Now Fired - Arestovich Says He Can "Speak The Truth" - Ukraine Can't Win
(LOL)
https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/%76%69%64%65%6f/Wr8g4vdXgiwA

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Thomas Heger wrote:

> Germans don't like the conflict and are t̶o̶t̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ a̶g̶a̶i̶n̶s̶t̶ a̶ w̶a̶r̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶
> R̶u̶s̶s̶i̶a̶. It's n̶o̶t̶ r̶e̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ a̶ q̶u̶e̶s̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ a̶b̶o̶u̶t̶ e̶n̶e̶r̶g̶y̶ s̶o̶u̶r̶c̶e̶s̶ and not even
> about the Ukraine. Germans had several conflicts with Russia which all
> turned out to be extremely desasterous. We Germans had the hope of good
> neighborhood with Russia and possible cooperations in fields, where that
> is possible. R̶u̶s̶s̶i̶a̶n̶s̶ a̶n̶d̶ G̶e̶r̶m̶a̶n̶s̶ a̶r̶e̶ a̶l̶s̶o̶ r̶e̶l̶a̶t̶i̶v̶e̶l̶y̶ c̶l̶o̶s̶e̶ 'r̶e̶l̶a̶t̶i̶v̶e̶s̶'
> in ethnicity and culture. Ukraine in contrast has rather low reputation
> in Europe and ranks somewhat below Albania in respect to political
> culture and safety of the population. We Germans also don't want any
> part of Ukraine and nothing of its resources. It's simply not our war
> and we hope the best this madness will stop soon.

how come "close relative" to Russians, when gearmons are anglo-saxon
*_pigs_*, which just *_declared war to russia_*. You don't read the
fucking news, idiot. Go read the news. And regime change your corrupt
government. */_Now_/*.

Germany */_‘at_war’_/* with Russia – FM
https://%72%74.com/news/570469-germany-war-russia-baerbock/

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Thomas Heger wrote:

> W̶e̶ G̶e̶r̶m̶a̶n̶s̶ a̶l̶s̶o̶ d̶o̶n̶'t̶ w̶a̶n̶t̶ a̶n̶y̶ p̶a̶r̶t̶ o̶f̶ U̶k̶r̶a̶i̶n̶e̶ a̶n̶d̶ n̶o̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ o̶f̶ i̶t̶s̶
> r̶e̶s̶o̶u̶r̶c̶e̶s̶. I̶t̶'s̶ s̶i̶m̶p̶l̶y̶ n̶o̶t̶ o̶u̶r̶ w̶a̶r̶ a̶n̶d̶ w̶e̶ h̶o̶p̶e̶ t̶h̶e̶ b̶e̶s̶t̶ t̶h̶i̶s̶ m̶a̶d̶n̶e̶s̶s̶
> w̶i̶l̶l̶ s̶t̶o̶p̶ s̶o̶o̶n̶.

that's why you tanks and military shit to kill for free?? Other countries pays in billions for rusted crap, your nazi brothers "uKrainia" gets it for free.

German Government Just Officially *_Declared_War_on_Russia_*
https://%6e%65%77%73%70%75%6e%63%68.com/german-government-just-officially-declared-war-on-russia/

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 by: Thomas Heger - Fri, 27 Jan 2023 07:08 UTC

Am 26.01.2023 um 23:20 schrieb Baldomero De filippis:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>
>> Germans don't like the conflict and are t̶o̶t̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ a̶g̶a̶i̶n̶s̶t̶ a̶ w̶a̶r̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶
>> R̶u̶s̶s̶i̶a̶. It's n̶o̶t̶ r̶e̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ a̶ q̶u̶e̶s̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ a̶b̶o̶u̶t̶ e̶n̶e̶r̶g̶y̶ s̶o̶u̶r̶c̶e̶s̶ and not even
>> about the Ukraine. Germans had several conflicts with Russia which all
>> turned out to be extremely desasterous. We Germans had the hope of good
>> neighborhood with Russia and possible cooperations in fields, where that
>> is possible. R̶u̶s̶s̶i̶a̶n̶s̶ a̶n̶d̶ G̶e̶r̶m̶a̶n̶s̶ a̶r̶e̶ a̶l̶s̶o̶ r̶e̶l̶a̶t̶i̶v̶e̶l̶y̶ c̶l̶o̶s̶e̶ 'r̶e̶l̶a̶t̶i̶v̶e̶s̶'
>> in ethnicity and culture. Ukraine in contrast has rather low reputation
>> in Europe and ranks somewhat below Albania in respect to political
>> culture and safety of the population. We Germans also don't want any
>> part of Ukraine and nothing of its resources. It's simply not our war
>> and we hope the best this madness will stop soon.
>
> how come "close relative" to Russians, when gearmons are anglo-saxon
> *_pigs_*, which just *_declared war to russia_*. You don't read the
> fucking news, idiot. Go read the news. And regime change your corrupt
> government. */_Now_/*.
>
German is actually a language which was very widely spoken in former time.

The tribes called 'Germanes' by the Romans were actually Cimbern,
Teutons and Anglo-Saxons, who all lived in what is today Denmark.

'Angeln' is a region in northern Germany, which belonged to Denmark
until the so called 'Nordic War', when Prussia captured Schleswig from
Denmark.

Saxons lived in a region called 'Niedersachsen' today (which belongs to
current Germany).

But the former 'Germanes' of the Romans lived predominately in Denmark

Anhow: the poluplation of Germany is not particularily Germanic, but to
a great extend Slavic.

(Already the similarity of the words 'Prussia' and 'Russia' should make
you wonder.)

Other tribes in Germany were Kelts , Allemans, Frisians and several others.

So: the German population is a mixture of several different ethnic
groups and not predominately blond or Germanic.

The language German was and is also spoken in several other countries
(other than Germany) like in Austria, Swizerland, Russia, Rumania, Italy
and so forth.

TH

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Volney wrote:

> On 1/26/2023 5:34 PM, Baldomero De filippis wrote:
>> Other countries pays in billions for rusted crap, your nazi brothers
>> "uKrainia" gets it for free.
>
> They shouldn't have spent billions buying rusted crap from Russia, should
> they. Now Russia gives the rusty WW2 rifles to their involuntary suicide
> squads, the "mobiks".

you are so stupid, what is your pronouns?

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 by: Volney - Sat, 28 Jan 2023 01:23 UTC

On 1/27/2023 2:08 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 26.01.2023 um 23:20 schrieb Baldomero De filippis:
>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>>> Germans don't like the conflict and are t̶o̶t̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ a̶g̶a̶i̶n̶s̶t̶ a̶ w̶a̶r̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶
>>> R̶u̶s̶s̶i̶a̶. It's n̶o̶t̶ r̶e̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ a̶ q̶u̶e̶s̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ a̶b̶o̶u̶t̶ e̶n̶e̶r̶g̶y̶ s̶o̶u̶r̶c̶e̶s̶ and not even
>>> about the Ukraine. Germans had several conflicts with Russia which all
>>> turned out to be extremely desasterous. We Germans had the hope of good
>>> neighborhood with Russia and possible cooperations in fields, where that
>>> is possible. R̶u̶s̶s̶i̶a̶n̶s̶ a̶n̶d̶ G̶e̶r̶m̶a̶n̶s̶ a̶r̶e̶ a̶l̶s̶o̶ r̶e̶l̶a̶t̶i̶v̶e̶l̶y̶ c̶l̶o̶s̶e̶ 'r̶e̶l̶a̶t̶i̶v̶e̶s̶'
>>> in ethnicity and culture. Ukraine in contrast has rather low reputation
>>> in Europe and ranks somewhat below Albania in respect to political
>>> culture and safety of the population. We Germans also don't want any
>>> part of Ukraine and nothing of its resources. It's simply not our war
>>> and we hope the best this madness will stop soon.
>>
>> how come "close relative" to Russians, when gearmons are anglo-saxon
>> *_pigs_*, which just *_declared war to russia_*. You don't read the
>> fucking news, idiot. Go read the news. And regime change your corrupt
>> government. */_Now_/*.
>>
> German is actually a language which was very widely spoken in former time.

Well the base language (which is not German) in the region eventually
evolved into Norwegian, Swedish and some extinct ones, and into a branch
which became the base for Low German and High German. Dutch and Old
English are related to Low German. Modern German from High German.
Slavic languages? No. Except both groups came from Indo-European.
Ukrainian and Russian are East Slavic languages, Polish West Slavic, and
I believe the former Yugoslavia area languages are called South Slavic.

> Anhow: the poluplation of Germany is not particularily Germanic, but to
> a great extend Slavic.

Maybe in the east. Western Germans are substantially related to the
French, and to a lesser extent, the English, as the Western European
ethnic group. There have been wars and population migration for
centuries, so yes lots of mixing.
>
> (Already the similarity of the words 'Prussia' and 'Russia' should make
> you wonder.)

The words are not as close in most other languages. "Russia" came from
the Kievan Rus, a people in what is now Ukraine and south Belarus, also
called the Ruthenians. The Kievan Rus eventually spread into Muscovy (in
western Russia). and founded Moscow. Muscovy eventually became very
powerful while Kievan Rus declined, largely due to the Mongol invasion.

Prussia came from Pruss, the name the Lithuanian related people in that
area called themselves. The Germans (Teutonic Knights) converted them to
Christianity and largely wiped them out, so the area became German. (why
does that sound familiar :-( ). I guess the Soviet-forced eviction of
Germans from the area to be replaced by Polish and (in half of East
Prussia) the Russians is "payback" not just for WW2 but that earlier period.

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