I don't know
but somebody
messed up
somewhere...
too many clocks
running at
different times.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> I don't know
> but somebody
> messed up
> somewhere...
> too many clocks
> running at
> different times.

Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember
that we live in the best of all possible worlds,

Jan

J. J. Lodder wrote:
>
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't know
> > but somebody
> > messed up
> > somewhere...
> > too many clocks
> > running at
> > different times.
>
> Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember
> that we live in the best of all possible worlds,
>
> Jan

"possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means..

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I don't know
> > > but somebody
> > > messed up
> > > somewhere...
> > > too many clocks
> > > running at
> > > different times.
> >
> > Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember
> > that we live in the best of all possible worlds,
> >
> > Jan
>
>
> "possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means..

Not surprised...

Jan

J. J. Lodder wrote:
>
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I don't know
> > > > but somebody
> > > > messed up
> > > > somewhere...
> > > > too many clocks
> > > > running at
> > > > different times.
> > >
> > > Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember
> > > that we live in the best of all possible worlds,
> > >
> > > Jan
> >
> >
> > "possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means..
>
> Not surprised...
>
> Jan

Well, i never read a science fiction, (or any fiction book for that
matter)

but i like star-trek on tvee...

but...

Definition. A possible world is a complete way things might be.
Possible worlds are alternative worlds one of which is the actual world.
Philosophers use the notion of a possible world to define and discuss
ideas such as possibility or necessity.
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+possible+worlds+theory

and Philosphy books are too hard to read...it's confusing.

I live in a 'actual' world. There are no other worlds.

too many clocks
running at
different times, at
different rates..
it's confusing.

Does anybody know what time it is...now?

Or does anybody got the right time?

I got to figure out what time it is now...

i have to start counting from the
first 3 seconds.

You know, at the beginning...

tick, tick, tick..

How many ticks are there from
the first second to...Now?

Then I will have to correct time.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

On Thursday, 21 September 2023 at 11:04:34 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't know
> > but somebody
> > messed up
> > somewhere...
> > too many clocks
> > running at
> > different times.
> Blame god for it,

So your idiot guru is now a god?

Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>
> On Thursday, 21 September 2023 at 11:04:34 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I don't know
> > > but somebody
> > > messed up
> > > somewhere...
> > > too many clocks
> > > running at
> > > different times.
> > Blame god for it,
>
> So your idiot guru is now a god?

i thoughts yous peoples believes gods haves no says ins its...

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > > J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I don't know
> > > > > but somebody
> > > > > messed up
> > > > > somewhere...
> > > > > too many clocks
> > > > > running at
> > > > > different times.
> > > >
> > > > Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember
> > > > that we live in the best of all possible worlds,
> > > >
> > > > Jan
> > >
> > >
> > > "possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means..
> >
> > Not surprised...
> >
> > Jan
>
> Well, i never read a science fiction, (or any fiction book for that
> matter)
>
> but i like star-trek on tvee...
>
> but...
>
> Definition. A possible world is a complete way things might be.
> Possible worlds are alternative worlds one of which is the actual world.
> Philosophers use the notion of a possible world to define and discuss
> ideas such as possibility or necessity.
> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+possible+worlds+theory
>
> and Philosphy books are too hard to read...it's confusing.
>
> I live in a 'actual' world. There are no other worlds.

In other words, possible worlds is ...just a theory.

And Philosphy is dead.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 22:05:06 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> > J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> > >
>> > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I don't know
>> > > > but somebody
>> > > > messed up
>> > > > somewhere...
>> > > > too many clocks
>> > > > running at
>> > > > different times.
>> > >
>> > > Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember
>> > > that we live in the best of all possible worlds,
>> > >
>> > > Jan
>> >
>> >
>> > "possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means..
>>
>> Not surprised...
>>
>> Jan
>
>
>Well, i never read a science fiction, (or any fiction book for that
>matter)

Now, let me explain dis...

as a kid
i would go to
the library
to read books.
I would follow
the
Dewey Decimal System
it had there.

So, I would look at all
the books between
001-999.

There was a section
in the back that had no
Dewey Decimal System.
It was called the Fiction section.
It had no Dewey Decimal System
numbers.
It had no facts in it, or an Index,
or anything resembling the
Dewey Decimal System.

Lot's of made up stuff.

So, I didn't bother to
this day with those
type of books.

That is where it belongs, in the back.

I rather be a six year old
learning how to dissemble a machine gun.

>
>but i like star-trek on tvee...
>
>but...
>
>Definition. A possible world is a complete way things might be.
>Possible worlds are alternative worlds one of which is the actual world.
>Philosophers use the notion of a possible world to define and discuss
>ideas such as possibility or necessity.
>https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+possible+worlds+theory
>
>and Philosphy books are too hard to read...it's confusing.
>
>
>I live in a 'actual' world. There are no other worlds.
>
>
>too many clocks
>running at
>different times, at
>different rates..
>it's confusing.
>
>Does anybody know what time it is...now?
>
>Or does anybody got the right time?
>
>
>I got to figure out what time it is now...
>
>i have to start counting from the
>first 3 seconds.
>
>You know, at the beginning...
>
>tick, tick, tick..
>
>
>How many ticks are there from
>the first second to...Now?
>
>Then I will have to correct time.

I figure
if I have a watch
at the big bang...
then I can set my watch
to the first three seconds...
and it should give the correct
time it is now...

(certainty it isn't the year 2023)

That is 436 quadrillion, 117 trillion, 76 billion, 600 million seconds
ago,
https://81018.com/universeclock/

I just got
to wind my watch
436 quadrillion, 117 trillion, 76 billion, 600 million seconds
to know the correct time it is now.

(certainty it isn't the year 2023)

Nobody here has the correct time.

Too many clocks!

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 22:05:06 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >>
> >> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > I don't know
> >> > > > but somebody
> >> > > > messed up
> >> > > > somewhere...
> >> > > > too many clocks
> >> > > > running at
> >> > > > different times.
> >> > >
> >> > > Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember
> >> > > that we live in the best of all possible worlds,
> >> > >
> >> > > Jan
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means..
> >>
> >> Not surprised...
> >>
> >> Jan
> >
> >
> >Well, i never read a science fiction, (or any fiction book for that
> >matter)
>
> Now, let me explain dis...
>
> as a kid
> i would go to
> the library
> to read books.
> I would follow
> the
> Dewey Decimal System
> it had there.
>
> So, I would look at all
> the books between
> 001-999.
>
> There was a section
> in the back that had no
> Dewey Decimal System.
> It was called the Fiction section.
> It had no Dewey Decimal System
> numbers.
> It had no facts in it, or an Index,
> or anything resembling the
> Dewey Decimal System.
>
> Lot's of made up stuff.
>
> So, I didn't bother to
> this day with those
> type of books.
>
> That is where it belongs, in the back.
>
> I rather be a six year old
> learning how to dissemble a machine gun.
>
> >
> >but i like star-trek on tvee...
> >
> >but...
> >
> >Definition. A possible world is a complete way things might be.
> >Possible worlds are alternative worlds one of which is the actual world.
> >Philosophers use the notion of a possible world to define and discuss
> >ideas such as possibility or necessity.
> >https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+possible+worlds+theory
> >
> >and Philosphy books are too hard to read...it's confusing.
> >
> >
> >I live in a 'actual' world. There are no other worlds.
> >
> >
> >too many clocks
> >running at
> >different times, at
> >different rates..
> >it's confusing.
> >
> >Does anybody know what time it is...now?
> >
> >Or does anybody got the right time?
> >
> >
> >I got to figure out what time it is now...
> >
> >i have to start counting from the
> >first 3 seconds.
> >
> >You know, at the beginning...
> >
> >tick, tick, tick..
> >
> >
> >How many ticks are there from
> >the first second to...Now?
> >
> >Then I will have to correct time.
>
> I figure
> if I have a watch
> at the big bang...
> then I can set my watch
> to the first three seconds...
> and it should give the correct
> time it is now...
>
> (certainty it isn't the year 2023)
>
> That is 436 quadrillion, 117 trillion, 76 billion, 600 million seconds
> ago,
> https://81018.com/universeclock/
>
> I just got
> to wind my watch
> 436 quadrillion, 117 trillion, 76 billion, 600 million seconds
> to know the correct time it is now.
>
> (certainty it isn't the year 2023)
>
> Nobody here has the correct time.
>
> Too many clocks!

Now, I need to first set my watch for the in the beginning of the big
bang...before the first three seconds...

was it Sunday or Monday?

If I go by the beginning of the first week then that would be Monday,
right? It wasn't year one yet, or month, or week, or even day...

an hour didn't even pass by yet...it was only the first three seconds.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 22:05:06 -0700, The Starmaker
> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > >J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > >>
> > >> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > I don't know
> > >> > > > but somebody
> > >> > > > messed up
> > >> > > > somewhere...
> > >> > > > too many clocks
> > >> > > > running at
> > >> > > > different times.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember
> > >> > > that we live in the best of all possible worlds,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Jan
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > "possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means..
> > >>
> > >> Not surprised...
> > >>
> > >> Jan
> > >
> > >
> > >Well, i never read a science fiction, (or any fiction book for that
> > >matter)
> >
> > Now, let me explain dis...
> >
> > as a kid
> > i would go to
> > the library
> > to read books.
> > I would follow
> > the
> > Dewey Decimal System
> > it had there.
> >
> > So, I would look at all
> > the books between
> > 001-999.
> >
> > There was a section
> > in the back that had no
> > Dewey Decimal System.
> > It was called the Fiction section.
> > It had no Dewey Decimal System
> > numbers.
> > It had no facts in it, or an Index,
> > or anything resembling the
> > Dewey Decimal System.
> >
> > Lot's of made up stuff.
> >
> > So, I didn't bother to
> > this day with those
> > type of books.
> >
> > That is where it belongs, in the back.
> >
> > I rather be a six year old
> > learning how to dissemble a machine gun.
> >
> > >
> > >but i like star-trek on tvee...
> > >
> > >but...
> > >
> > >Definition. A possible world is a complete way things might be.
> > >Possible worlds are alternative worlds one of which is the actual world.
> > >Philosophers use the notion of a possible world to define and discuss
> > >ideas such as possibility or necessity.
> > >https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+possible+worlds+theory
> > >
> > >and Philosphy books are too hard to read...it's confusing.
> > >
> > >
> > >I live in a 'actual' world. There are no other worlds.
> > >
> > >
> > >too many clocks
> > >running at
> > >different times, at
> > >different rates..
> > >it's confusing.
> > >
> > >Does anybody know what time it is...now?
> > >
> > >Or does anybody got the right time?
> > >
> > >
> > >I got to figure out what time it is now...
> > >
> > >i have to start counting from the
> > >first 3 seconds.
> > >
> > >You know, at the beginning...
> > >
> > >tick, tick, tick..
> > >
> > >
> > >How many ticks are there from
> > >the first second to...Now?
> > >
> > >Then I will have to correct time.
> >
> > I figure
> > if I have a watch
> > at the big bang...
> > then I can set my watch
> > to the first three seconds...
> > and it should give the correct
> > time it is now...
> >
> > (certainty it isn't the year 2023)
> >
> > That is 436 quadrillion, 117 trillion, 76 billion, 600 million seconds
> > ago,
> > https://81018.com/universeclock/
> >
> > I just got
> > to wind my watch
> > 436 quadrillion, 117 trillion, 76 billion, 600 million seconds
> > to know the correct time it is now.
> >
> > (certainty it isn't the year 2023)
> >
> > Nobody here has the correct time.
> >
> > Too many clocks!
>
> Now, I need to first set my watch for the in the beginning of the big
> bang...before the first three seconds...
>
> was it Sunday or Monday?
>
> If I go by the beginning of the first week then that would be Monday,
> right? It wasn't year one yet, or month, or week, or even day...
>
> an hour didn't even pass by yet...it was only the first three seconds.

What I don't understand is why is it for yous peoples takings
sooo longs to understands thats the earth is the same age of the
universe?

The exact same age!

the exact same second...

Now I have to set my watch from the very first second of the big bang to
today to
know what time it is...Now.

nobody here on earth has the correct time.

Too Many Clocks

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

On 9/27/2023 1:06 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Now, I need to first set my watch for the in the beginning of the big
> bang...before the first three seconds...
>
> was it Sunday or Monday?

If one is a cro-magnon and takes the "age of the universe" as it is
reported, i.e. 13.7 Billion years:

It was September 27, -13,699,997,977, an autumn day :) Probably sunny
too. But which day of the week? Sorry, the calendar program I wrote only
goes back to -1,000,000,000 years. It was made on a 32 bit computer, so...

Physfitfreak wrote:
>
> On 9/27/2023 1:06 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Now, I need to first set my watch for the in the beginning of the big
> > bang...before the first three seconds...
> >
> > was it Sunday or Monday?
>
> If one is a cro-magnon and takes the "age of the universe" as it is
> reported, i.e. 13.7 Billion years:
>
> It was September 27, -13,699,997,977, an autumn day :) Probably sunny
> too. But which day of the week? Sorry, the calendar program I wrote only
> goes back to -1,000,000,000 years. It was made on a 32 bit computer, so...

Too Many Websites
asking for $4.99 a month!

It's guys selling their software in the form of a website.

One way to crack it is to crack the free trial cookies.

To check cookies in Chrome for(cookies hidden in other websites names):

Put your mouse on their webpage..
Right-click and click on Inspect to open the developer console.
Go to the Applications tab on the console.
Expand the Cookies dropdown under the Storage section. Under
Cookies, select the website to see the cookie details.

https://www.cookieyes.com/blog/how-to-check-cookies-on-your-website-manually/

Forever Free Trial.

(i also notice a lot of these top $4.99 a month sites use the same
platform cloud app)
dats dumb.

did you know
gpt loves ida pro?

Here is an excerpt of ChatGPT:

Let's try another approach by searching for strings in the binary that
might be related to the password. Here's how you can do that in IDA Pro:

In IDA Pro, go to the "View" menu and select "Open Subviews" ->
"Strings."

A new subview will open, showing a list of strings found in the
binary.

Look through the list of strings for any that might be related to
passwords, prompts, or user input. Password-related strings often
include words like "password," "key," "input," or similar terms.

Double-click on a string that looks promising to see where it is
referenced in the code.

Examine the code around the reference to the string to understand
how it is used. This might lead you to the password-checking logic.

If you find a reference that seems relevant, set a breakpoint at
that location (you can use the bp command) and run the program again to
see how the code behaves when that string is accessed.

Continue to follow the code and analyze memory and registers as
needed to understand how the password is processed or checked.

By searching for relevant strings, you might uncover clues about where
the password-related code is located.
Remember to keep detailed notes as you progress in your analysis.
If you don't find any useful strings in this step, we can explore other
avenues of analysis.

"we can explore other avenues of analysis"????

WE!!!!!

ChatGPT is sooooooo evil!

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

On 9/28/2023 1:11 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Forever Free Trial.

You kick ass Star :-)

They deserve it, cause they've become rude. They've drifted too much
getting the idea our time spent is worthless.

Physfitfreak wrote:
>
> On 9/28/2023 1:11 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Forever Free Trial.
>
> You kick ass Star :-)
>
> They deserve it, cause they've become rude. They've drifted too much
> getting the idea our time spent is worthless.

Would you believe this? One of those $4.99 and up a month website just
received a
hundred million dollar investment and their website is a Forever Free
Trial website????

Imagine if the investors ever found out!

a lot of stupid people in sillycone valley.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:11:47 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Too Many Websites
>asking for $4.99 a month!
>
>It's guys selling their software in the form of a website.
>
>One way to crack it is to crack the free trial cookies.
>
>
>To check cookies in Chrome for(cookies hidden in other websites names):
>
> Put your mouse on their webpage..
> Right-click and click on Inspect to open the developer console.
> Go to the Applications tab on the console.
> Expand the Cookies dropdown under the Storage section. Under
>Cookies, select the website to see the cookie details.
>
>
>https://www.cookieyes.com/blog/how-to-check-cookies-on-your-website-manually/
>
>
>Forever Free Trial.
>
>
>(i also notice a lot of these top $4.99 a month sites use the same
>platform cloud app)
>dats dumb.
>

You can tell a lot of
these guys use the same
'cloud' to run their apps.

You see a lot of the same:

___________________
Sign up in seconds

Continue with Google

and/or

(at the bottom you see)

Sign up with Email
___________________

dats da game
to bypass
sometimes...

you need to test
their

Sign up with Email

Sometimes you can just
put any email address you make up
to sign up with to see what happens.

So...you might get a
Sign up page
for Name and
Email
and password.

Then...
if it sez continue..
you might get a
'another page' for
entering Free Trial
credit card information.

(you don't want dat page)

wat you do is...
Press the Back button
slowly to see if you can get back
to the pages before...and up
above you 'might' see
your email address and name
already listed as (already logged in).
(cookie)
Meaning, you can get free trial
without filling out cc info.

Just continue with
free trial until
it runs out...
(sometime it is credits,
or days, etc)

remove all cookies
and start all over again.

Forever Free Trial!

There are no web developers
with talent anymore.

just dummies running a web page.

Sign up in seconds

Continue with Google

or

Sign up with Email

and get
Forever Free Trial!!!!

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:11:47 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >Too Many Websites
> >asking for $4.99 a month!
> >
> >It's guys selling their software in the form of a website.
> >
> >One way to crack it is to crack the free trial cookies.
> >
> >
> >To check cookies in Chrome for(cookies hidden in other websites names):
> >
> > Put your mouse on their webpage..
> > Right-click and click on Inspect to open the developer console.
> > Go to the Applications tab on the console.
> > Expand the Cookies dropdown under the Storage section. Under
> >Cookies, select the website to see the cookie details.
> >
> >
> >https://www.cookieyes.com/blog/how-to-check-cookies-on-your-website-manually/
> >
> >
> >Forever Free Trial.
> >
> >
> >(i also notice a lot of these top $4.99 a month sites use the same
> >platform cloud app)
> >dats dumb.
> >
>
> You can tell a lot of
> these guys use the same
> 'cloud' to run their apps.
>
> You see a lot of the same:
>
> ___________________
> Sign up in seconds
>
> Continue with Google
>
> and/or
>
> (at the bottom you see)
>
> Sign up with Email
> ___________________
>
> dats da game
> to bypass
> sometimes...
>
> you need to test
> their
>
> Sign up with Email
>
> Sometimes you can just
> put any email address you make up
> to sign up with to see what happens.
>
> So...you might get a
> Sign up page
> for Name and
> Email
> and password.
>
> Then...
> if it sez continue..
> you might get a
> 'another page' for
> entering Free Trial
> credit card information.
>
> (you don't want dat page)
>
> wat you do is...
> Press the Back button
> slowly to see if you can get back
> to the pages before...and up
> above you 'might' see
> your email address and name
> already listed as (already logged in).
> (cookie)
> Meaning, you can get free trial
> without filling out cc info.
>
> Just continue with
> free trial until
> it runs out...
> (sometime it is credits,
> or days, etc)
>
> remove all cookies
> and start all over again.
>
> Forever Free Trial!
>
> There are no web developers
> with talent anymore.
>
> just dummies running a web page.
>
> Sign up in seconds
>
> Continue with Google
>
> or
>
> Sign up with Email
>
> and get
> Forever Free Trial!!!!

i forgot to add it also reads:

Don't have an account? Sign up

then you sign up!

> Sign up page
> for Name and
> Email
> and password.
>
> Then...
> if it sez continue..
> you might get a
> 'another page' for
> entering Free Trial
> credit card information.
>
> (you don't want dat page)
>
> wat you do is...
> Press the Back button
> slowly to see if you can get back
> to the pages before...and up
> above you 'might' see
> your email address and name
> already listed as (already logged in).
> (cookie)
> Meaning, you can get free trial
> without filling out cc info.
>
> Just continue with
> free trial until
> it runs out...
> (sometime it is credits,
> or days, etc)
>
> remove all cookies
> and start all over again.
>
> Forever Free Trial!

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 11:33:31 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> I don't know
> but somebody
> messed up
> somewhere...
> too many clocks
> running at
> different times.
>
>
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

Time has material. The atom and light have time.
They are moving and changing...

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:11:47 -0700, The Starmaker
> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Too Many Websites
> > >asking for $4.99 a month!
> > >
> > >It's guys selling their software in the form of a website.
> > >
> > >One way to crack it is to crack the free trial cookies.
> > >
> > >
> > >To check cookies in Chrome for(cookies hidden in other websites names):
> > >
> > > Put your mouse on their webpage..
> > > Right-click and click on Inspect to open the developer console.
> > > Go to the Applications tab on the console.
> > > Expand the Cookies dropdown under the Storage section. Under
> > >Cookies, select the website to see the cookie details.
> > >
> > >
> > >https://www.cookieyes.com/blog/how-to-check-cookies-on-your-website-manually/
> > >
> > >
> > >Forever Free Trial.
> > >
> > >
> > >(i also notice a lot of these top $4.99 a month sites use the same
> > >platform cloud app)
> > >dats dumb.
> > >
> >
> > You can tell a lot of
> > these guys use the same
> > 'cloud' to run their apps.
> >
> > You see a lot of the same:
> >
> > ___________________
> > Sign up in seconds
> >
> > Continue with Google
> >
> > and/or
> >
> > (at the bottom you see)
> >
> > Sign up with Email
> > ___________________
> >
> > dats da game
> > to bypass
> > sometimes...
> >
> > you need to test
> > their
> >
> > Sign up with Email
> >
> > Sometimes you can just
> > put any email address you make up
> > to sign up with to see what happens.
> >
> > So...you might get a
> > Sign up page
> > for Name and
> > Email
> > and password.
> >
> > Then...
> > if it sez continue..
> > you might get a
> > 'another page' for
> > entering Free Trial
> > credit card information.
> >
> > (you don't want dat page)
> >
> > wat you do is...
> > Press the Back button
> > slowly to see if you can get back
> > to the pages before...and up
> > above you 'might' see
> > your email address and name
> > already listed as (already logged in).
> > (cookie)
> > Meaning, you can get free trial
> > without filling out cc info.
> >
> > Just continue with
> > free trial until
> > it runs out...
> > (sometime it is credits,
> > or days, etc)
> >
> > remove all cookies
> > and start all over again.
> >
> > Forever Free Trial!
> >
> > There are no web developers
> > with talent anymore.
> >
> > just dummies running a web page.
> >
> > Sign up in seconds
> >
> > Continue with Google
> >
> > or
> >
> > Sign up with Email
> >
> > and get
> > Forever Free Trial!!!!
>
> i forgot to add it also reads:
>
> Don't have an account? Sign up
>
> then you sign up!
>
> > Sign up page
> > for Name and
> > Email
> > and password.
> >
> > Then...
> > if it sez continue..
> > you might get a
> > 'another page' for
> > entering Free Trial
> > credit card information.
> >
> > (you don't want dat page)
> >
> > wat you do is...
> > Press the Back button
> > slowly to see if you can get back
> > to the pages before...and up
> > above you 'might' see
> > your email address and name
> > already listed as (already logged in).
> > (cookie)
> > Meaning, you can get free trial
> > without filling out cc info.
> >
> > Just continue with
> > free trial until
> > it runs out...
> > (sometime it is credits,
> > or days, etc)
> >
> > remove all cookies
> > and start all over again.
> >
> > Forever Free Trial!

As I already mentioned before...
some of these Forever Free Trial
websites silly cone valley has
already invested hundred million
dollars on these 'cloud'
$4.99 a month and up sites.

Most of them using the same
Sign up page templates.
(they all look alike)

If the Sign up page is too complex,
no one will sign up...
so they try to make it Easier to
Sign up page.

(some even skip email verifaication at first)

(there are plenty of FREE email sites you can use)

(I usually start with just fake emails addresses than
using a free email site)

Usually these sites start off free then when they
get a million users, then they show the bill.

I guess if they get half to subscribe and pay
they got rich.

They hope you are 'addicted' to them.

It's like give free HEROIN to everybody and
watch the school kids pay you money for it!

Did you know potatoe chips are addictive?

"betcha can't eat just one"

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

On 9/21/2023 1:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know
>>> but somebody
>>> messed up
>>> somewhere...
>>> too many clocks
>>> running at
>>> different times.
>>
>> Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember
>> that we live in the best of all possible worlds,
>>
>> Jan
>
>
> "possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means..

Perhaps he visited another planet and said, this place fucking sucks
balls! Earth is the best of all possible worlds, so saith the all
knowing me? lol! ;^o

Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

>>> Blame god for it, but while doing so, do remember that we live in the
>>> best of all possible worlds, Jan
>>
>> "possible worlds"???? i don't even know what dat means..
>
> Perhaps he visited another planet and said, this place fucking sucks
> balls! Earth is the best of all possible worlds, so saith the all
> knowing me? lol! ;^o

no, it's not. If you can't 𝗿𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗲_𝘁𝗶𝗺𝗲, you are the little boy in the
classroom. Sad. Might think, you have to go outside this world, then back.
But it's just 𝗮_𝗺𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁_𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗸. You don't know the circuitry and the machinery.

𝗡𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴_𝗰𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱_𝘁𝗵𝗲_𝘂𝗻𝗶𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗲
https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/FOkzXHa0p3CC

432𝗵𝘇
https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/Sct6ujnBhFrl

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:11:47 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Too Many Websites
> > > >asking for $4.99 a month!
> > > >
> > > >It's guys selling their software in the form of a website.
> > > >
> > > >One way to crack it is to crack the free trial cookies.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >To check cookies in Chrome for(cookies hidden in other websites names):
> > > >
> > > > Put your mouse on their webpage..
> > > > Right-click and click on Inspect to open the developer console.
> > > > Go to the Applications tab on the console.
> > > > Expand the Cookies dropdown under the Storage section. Under
> > > >Cookies, select the website to see the cookie details.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >https://www.cookieyes.com/blog/how-to-check-cookies-on-your-website-manually/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Forever Free Trial.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >(i also notice a lot of these top $4.99 a month sites use the same
> > > >platform cloud app)
> > > >dats dumb.
> > > >
> > >
> > > You can tell a lot of
> > > these guys use the same
> > > 'cloud' to run their apps.
> > >
> > > You see a lot of the same:
> > >
> > > ___________________
> > > Sign up in seconds
> > >
> > > Continue with Google
> > >
> > > and/or
> > >
> > > (at the bottom you see)
> > >
> > > Sign up with Email
> > > ___________________
> > >
> > > dats da game
> > > to bypass
> > > sometimes...
> > >
> > > you need to test
> > > their
> > >
> > > Sign up with Email
> > >
> > > Sometimes you can just
> > > put any email address you make up
> > > to sign up with to see what happens.
> > >
> > > So...you might get a
> > > Sign up page
> > > for Name and
> > > Email
> > > and password.
> > >
> > > Then...
> > > if it sez continue..
> > > you might get a
> > > 'another page' for
> > > entering Free Trial
> > > credit card information.
> > >
> > > (you don't want dat page)
> > >
> > > wat you do is...
> > > Press the Back button
> > > slowly to see if you can get back
> > > to the pages before...and up
> > > above you 'might' see
> > > your email address and name
> > > already listed as (already logged in).
> > > (cookie)
> > > Meaning, you can get free trial
> > > without filling out cc info.
> > >
> > > Just continue with
> > > free trial until
> > > it runs out...
> > > (sometime it is credits,
> > > or days, etc)
> > >
> > > remove all cookies
> > > and start all over again.
> > >
> > > Forever Free Trial!
> > >
> > > There are no web developers
> > > with talent anymore.
> > >
> > > just dummies running a web page.
> > >
> > > Sign up in seconds
> > >
> > > Continue with Google
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > Sign up with Email
> > >
> > > and get
> > > Forever Free Trial!!!!
> >
> > i forgot to add it also reads:
> >
> > Don't have an account? Sign up
> >
> > then you sign up!
> >
> > > Sign up page
> > > for Name and
> > > Email
> > > and password.
> > >
> > > Then...
> > > if it sez continue..
> > > you might get a
> > > 'another page' for
> > > entering Free Trial
> > > credit card information.
> > >
> > > (you don't want dat page)
> > >
> > > wat you do is...
> > > Press the Back button
> > > slowly to see if you can get back
> > > to the pages before...and up
> > > above you 'might' see
> > > your email address and name
> > > already listed as (already logged in).
> > > (cookie)
> > > Meaning, you can get free trial
> > > without filling out cc info.
> > >
> > > Just continue with
> > > free trial until
> > > it runs out...
> > > (sometime it is credits,
> > > or days, etc)
> > >
> > > remove all cookies
> > > and start all over again.
> > >
> > > Forever Free Trial!
>
> As I already mentioned before...
> some of these Forever Free Trial
> websites silly cone valley has
> already invested hundred million
> dollars on these 'cloud'
> $4.99 a month and up sites.
>
> Most of them using the same
> Sign up page templates.
> (they all look alike)
>
> If the Sign up page is too complex,
> no one will sign up...
> so they try to make it Easier to
> Sign up page.
>
> (some even skip email verifaication at first)
>
> (there are plenty of FREE email sites you can use)
>
> (I usually start with just fake emails addresses than
> using a free email site)
>
> Usually these sites start off free then when they
> get a million users, then they show the bill.
>
> I guess if they get half to subscribe and pay
> they got rich.
>
> They hope you are 'addicted' to them.
>
> It's like give free HEROIN to everybody and
> watch the school kids pay you money for it!
>
> Did you know potatoe chips are addictive?
>
> "betcha can't eat just one"

i tink the tech word for 'addicted' is...sticky.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

So, that website tells me
to continue using their
website I have to Sign In...

I press the F5 key and
I continued without
signing in...

Is these sillycone
valley companies
having a shortage of
web developers?

Their grandmother must be
the webmaster.

How could pressing the F5 key
bypass the Sign In message...everytime?

Who is doing their HTML, Stevie Wonder????

I also notice archive.md
works with those small
members only article
websites.

Imagine...
that website
got a
100 million investment and
all it took
to bypass the paywall was
the refresh key, F5.

Come on, it's no fun.

On Sun, 05 Nov 2023 01:37:28 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:11:47 -0700, The Starmaker
><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Too Many Websites
>>asking for $4.99 a month!
>>
>>It's guys selling their software in the form of a website.
>>
>>One way to crack it is to crack the free trial cookies.
>>
>>
>>To check cookies in Chrome for(cookies hidden in other websites names):
>>
>> Put your mouse on their webpage..
>> Right-click and click on Inspect to open the developer console.
>> Go to the Applications tab on the console.
>> Expand the Cookies dropdown under the Storage section. Under
>>Cookies, select the website to see the cookie details.
>>
>>
>>https://www.cookieyes.com/blog/how-to-check-cookies-on-your-website-manually/
>>
>>
>>Forever Free Trial.
>>
>>
>>(i also notice a lot of these top $4.99 a month sites use the same
>>platform cloud app)
>>dats dumb.
>>
>
>You can tell a lot of
>these guys use the same
>'cloud' to run their apps.
>
>You see a lot of the same:
>
>___________________
>Sign up in seconds
>
>Continue with Google
>
>and/or
>
>(at the bottom you see)
>
>Sign up with Email
>___________________
>
>dats da game
>to bypass
>sometimes...
>
>you need to test
>their
>
>Sign up with Email
>
>Sometimes you can just
>put any email address you make up
>to sign up with to see what happens.
>
>So...you might get a
>Sign up page
>for Name and
>Email
>and password.
>
>Then...
>if it sez continue..
>you might get a
>'another page' for
>entering Free Trial
>credit card information.
>
>(you don't want dat page)
>
>wat you do is...
>Press the Back button
>slowly to see if you can get back
>to the pages before...and up
>above you 'might' see
>your email address and name
>already listed as (already logged in).
>(cookie)
>Meaning, you can get free trial
>without filling out cc info.
>
>Just continue with
>free trial until
>it runs out...
>(sometime it is credits,
>or days, etc)
>
>remove all cookies
>and start all over again.
>
>Forever Free Trial!
>
>
>There are no web developers
>with talent anymore.
>
>just dummies running a web page.
>
>
>Sign up in seconds
>
>Continue with Google
>
>or
>
>
>Sign up with Email
>
>
>and get
>Forever Free Trial!!!!

On 1/11/2024 1:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> So, that website tells me
> to continue using their
> website I have to Sign In...
>
> I press the F5 key and
> I continued without
> signing in...
>
> Is these sillycone
> valley companies
> having a shortage of
> web developers?
>
> Their grandmother must be
> the webmaster.
>
> How could pressing the F5 key
> bypass the Sign In message...everytime?
>
> Who is doing their HTML, Stevie Wonder????
>
>
> I also notice archive.md
> works with those small
> members only article
> websites.
>
> Imagine...
> that website
> got a
> 100 million investment and
> all it took
> to bypass the paywall was
> the refresh key, F5.
>
>
> Come on, it's no fun.
>

Use Firefox with adBlocker Ultimate and the sign-in barrier doesn't even
come up. It's like you're subscribed!

Physfitfreak wrote:
>
> On 1/11/2024 1:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > So, that website tells me
> > to continue using their
> > website I have to Sign In...
> >
> > I press the F5 key and
> > I continued without
> > signing in...
> >
> > Is these sillycone
> > valley companies
> > having a shortage of
> > web developers?
> >
> > Their grandmother must be
> > the webmaster.
> >
> > How could pressing the F5 key
> > bypass the Sign In message...everytime?
> >
> > Who is doing their HTML, Stevie Wonder????
> >
> >
> > I also notice archive.md
> > works with those small
> > members only article
> > websites.
> >
> > Imagine...
> > that website
> > got a
> > 100 million investment and
> > all it took
> > to bypass the paywall was
> > the refresh key, F5.
> >
> >
> > Come on, it's no fun.
> >
>
> Use Firefox with adBlocker Ultimate and the sign-in barrier doesn't even
> come up. It's like you're subscribed!

"adBlocker"? I don't use adBlockers because I love ads, I love spam.
(but I'll give it a try to see if it wurks.)

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.