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My regular readers will recall my "Washington State and Relativity" roadtrip this summer which took me to the desert town of Richland, WA which adjoins the Hanford Nukular reservation. It turns out that at virtue signaling Karen, whose name I have already forgotten, just happened to have just completed a movie about Richland for the Seattle International Film Festival. The movie "Richland" premiered tonight at the Uptown in Lower Queen Ann which Ross and Legion probably know well; and which even Bodkin may have attended while visiting his Seattle relatives.

The film was the typical screed against nukularism--this time centered on the town of Richland, whose plutonium was responsible for obliterating Nagasaki. There was some interesting archival film from the Cold War. And I always enjoy seeing the Richland High School mascot, a mushroom cloud. And of course their catchy fight song "Nuke 'em till they glow!" This can all be googled by the interested reader.

I'll have more reflections later. But this genre of peculiarly America virtue signaling never seriously considers the American Military's side of the dropping of the bombs. Yes, Nagasaki has a score to settle with Richland someday. But the plutonium from Richland has performed a great service for science. How? Well, the plutonium from Oak Ridge that was dropped on Hiroshima was not enough. Three days later it took the plutonium from Richland to end the war and save my father's life, who was in the Pacific theater and could have been killed in the invasions of the Japanese mainland. Yes, this didn't happen and so I was born. But neither is my nativity the main point. The main point is that it just so happened that for whatever reason, the Big Ben Paradox originated in the gray matter of MY brain. So it turned out that Richland insured that particular gray matter's existence. And now you know the REST of the story.

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 by: patdolan - Thu, 12 Oct 2023 17:31 UTC

On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 10:24:02 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
> My regular readers will recall my "Washington State and Relativity" roadtrip this summer which took me to the desert town of Richland, WA which adjoins the Hanford Nukular reservation. It turns out that at virtue signaling Karen, whose name I have already forgotten, just happened to have just completed a movie about Richland for the Seattle International Film Festival. The movie "Richland" premiered tonight at the Uptown in Lower Queen Ann which Ross and Legion probably know well; and which even Bodkin may have attended while visiting his Seattle relatives.
>
> The film was the typical screed against nukularism--this time centered on the town of Richland, whose plutonium was responsible for obliterating Nagasaki. There was some interesting archival film from the Cold War. And I always enjoy seeing the Richland High School mascot, a mushroom cloud. And of course their catchy fight song "Nuke 'em till they glow!" This can all be googled by the interested reader.
>
> I'll have more reflections later. But this genre of peculiarly America virtue signaling never seriously considers the American Military's side of the dropping of the bombs. Yes, Nagasaki has a score to settle with Richland someday. But the plutonium from Richland has performed a great service for science. How? Well, the plutonium from Oak Ridge that was dropped on Hiroshima was not enough. Three days later it took the plutonium from Richland to end the war and save my father's life, who was in the Pacific theater and could have been killed in the invasions of the Japanese mainland. Yes, this didn't happen and so I was born. But neither is my nativity the main point.. The main point is that it just so happened that for whatever reason, the Big Ben Paradox originated in the gray matter of MY brain. So it turned out that Richland insured that particular gray matter's existence. And now you know the REST of the story.

Here is a trailer to the movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA9A0eFZHc0&t=15s

It's tough to find parking in Lower Queen Anne. So I parked early and went into Ozzie's for a drink. I'm sure Ross has had a drink there. Legion probably only drinks wine, red. I sat at the bar next to a Seattle transexual. Other than asking (pronoun) if the seat was taken, we had no conversation. With exceptions of Europe and the United Kingdom, Seattle is one of the most un-churched regions in the world. Even so, there is public prayer here--a lot of it--before every public function. If it is a small informal meeting, the accepted form of prayer is "Let's do pronouns" where everyone introduces themselves and their preferred pronouns. At larger, more formal assemblies, like before last night's movie, a polished public prayer is uttered acknowledging the Native American tribes from who White Euro-Americans took the land.

Other that the "Black Lives Matter" signs *still* in many Seattle yards and windows, the Public Land Acknowledgement is the most visible form of public prayer. This is also true in many other blue sh&t hole cities that have been run exclusively by the Democratic Party for over three generations. The irony of this particular form of liberal virtue signaling prayer is that the Jesuits converted Chief Seattle 10 years prior to the White arrival on Puget Sound. In fact, I am taking the ferry next week over to Port Madison to attend lecture on the archeology of Old Man House (the largest aboriginal communal dwelling structure on the Pacific Rim) where the Chief died, and will visit his grave--as I have done several times before. I am somewhat of an expert on the Puget Sound tribes and may digress in that direction for the next post in this series...

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 by: Ross Finlayson - Fri, 13 Oct 2023 15:36 UTC

On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 10:31:36 AM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 10:24:02 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
> > My regular readers will recall my "Washington State and Relativity" roadtrip this summer which took me to the desert town of Richland, WA which adjoins the Hanford Nukular reservation. It turns out that at virtue signaling Karen, whose name I have already forgotten, just happened to have just completed a movie about Richland for the Seattle International Film Festival. The movie "Richland" premiered tonight at the Uptown in Lower Queen Ann which Ross and Legion probably know well; and which even Bodkin may have attended while visiting his Seattle relatives.
> >
> > The film was the typical screed against nukularism--this time centered on the town of Richland, whose plutonium was responsible for obliterating Nagasaki. There was some interesting archival film from the Cold War. And I always enjoy seeing the Richland High School mascot, a mushroom cloud. And of course their catchy fight song "Nuke 'em till they glow!" This can all be googled by the interested reader.
> >
> > I'll have more reflections later. But this genre of peculiarly America virtue signaling never seriously considers the American Military's side of the dropping of the bombs. Yes, Nagasaki has a score to settle with Richland someday. But the plutonium from Richland has performed a great service for science. How? Well, the plutonium from Oak Ridge that was dropped on Hiroshima was not enough. Three days later it took the plutonium from Richland to end the war and save my father's life, who was in the Pacific theater and could have been killed in the invasions of the Japanese mainland. Yes, this didn't happen and so I was born. But neither is my nativity the main point. The main point is that it just so happened that for whatever reason, the Big Ben Paradox originated in the gray matter of MY brain. So it turned out that Richland insured that particular gray matter's existence. And now you know the REST of the story.
> Here is a trailer to the movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA9A0eFZHc0&t=15s
>
> It's tough to find parking in Lower Queen Anne. So I parked early and went into Ozzie's for a drink. I'm sure Ross has had a drink there. Legion probably only drinks wine, red. I sat at the bar next to a Seattle transexual. Other than asking (pronoun) if the seat was taken, we had no conversation. With exceptions of Europe and the United Kingdom, Seattle is one of the most un-churched regions in the world. Even so, there is public prayer here--a lot of it--before every public function. If it is a small informal meeting, the accepted form of prayer is "Let's do pronouns" where everyone introduces themselves and their preferred pronouns. At larger, more formal assemblies, like before last night's movie, a polished public prayer is uttered acknowledging the Native American tribes from who White Euro-Americans took the land.
>
> Other that the "Black Lives Matter" signs *still* in many Seattle yards and windows, the Public Land Acknowledgement is the most visible form of public prayer. This is also true in many other blue sh&t hole cities that have been run exclusively by the Democratic Party for over three generations. The irony of this particular form of liberal virtue signaling prayer is that the Jesuits converted Chief Seattle 10 years prior to the White arrival on Puget Sound. In fact, I am taking the ferry next week over to Port Madison to attend lecture on the archeology of Old Man House (the largest aboriginal communal dwelling structure on the Pacific Rim) where the Chief died, and will visit his grave--as I have done several times before. I am somewhat of an expert on the Puget Sound tribes and may digress in that direction for the next post in this series...

No, maybe if it was south of Owl and Thistle. I know most places south of Owl and Thistle.
(North of Dearborn.)

Patty, if you want to have "Seattle sci.talk get-togethers", well say so,
then simply say "let's get together" as what we can have some lunchtime
or weekend wile-away.

Seattle has been very tolerant of all the things since COVID, it's a nice
city, though inflation is rampant, I can take it or leave it.

Yeah, to this day there are uranium operations from Tri-Cities all the way
out to Burns, Oregon, or Tri-State, as it were.

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 by: patdolan - Fri, 13 Oct 2023 15:48 UTC

On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 8:36:33 AM UTC-7, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 10:31:36 AM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 10:24:02 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
> > > My regular readers will recall my "Washington State and Relativity" roadtrip this summer which took me to the desert town of Richland, WA which adjoins the Hanford Nukular reservation. It turns out that at virtue signaling Karen, whose name I have already forgotten, just happened to have just completed a movie about Richland for the Seattle International Film Festival. The movie "Richland" premiered tonight at the Uptown in Lower Queen Ann which Ross and Legion probably know well; and which even Bodkin may have attended while visiting his Seattle relatives.
> > >
> > > The film was the typical screed against nukularism--this time centered on the town of Richland, whose plutonium was responsible for obliterating Nagasaki. There was some interesting archival film from the Cold War. And I always enjoy seeing the Richland High School mascot, a mushroom cloud. And of course their catchy fight song "Nuke 'em till they glow!" This can all be googled by the interested reader.
> > >
> > > I'll have more reflections later. But this genre of peculiarly America virtue signaling never seriously considers the American Military's side of the dropping of the bombs. Yes, Nagasaki has a score to settle with Richland someday. But the plutonium from Richland has performed a great service for science. How? Well, the plutonium from Oak Ridge that was dropped on Hiroshima was not enough. Three days later it took the plutonium from Richland to end the war and save my father's life, who was in the Pacific theater and could have been killed in the invasions of the Japanese mainland. Yes, this didn't happen and so I was born. But neither is my nativity the main point. The main point is that it just so happened that for whatever reason, the Big Ben Paradox originated in the gray matter of MY brain. So it turned out that Richland insured that particular gray matter's existence. And now you know the REST of the story.
> > Here is a trailer to the movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA9A0eFZHc0&t=15s
> >
> > It's tough to find parking in Lower Queen Anne. So I parked early and went into Ozzie's for a drink. I'm sure Ross has had a drink there. Legion probably only drinks wine, red. I sat at the bar next to a Seattle transexual. Other than asking (pronoun) if the seat was taken, we had no conversation. With exceptions of Europe and the United Kingdom, Seattle is one of the most un-churched regions in the world. Even so, there is public prayer here--a lot of it--before every public function. If it is a small informal meeting, the accepted form of prayer is "Let's do pronouns" where everyone introduces themselves and their preferred pronouns. At larger, more formal assemblies, like before last night's movie, a polished public prayer is uttered acknowledging the Native American tribes from who White Euro-Americans took the land.
> >
> > Other that the "Black Lives Matter" signs *still* in many Seattle yards and windows, the Public Land Acknowledgement is the most visible form of public prayer. This is also true in many other blue sh&t hole cities that have been run exclusively by the Democratic Party for over three generations. The irony of this particular form of liberal virtue signaling prayer is that the Jesuits converted Chief Seattle 10 years prior to the White arrival on Puget Sound. In fact, I am taking the ferry next week over to Port Madison to attend lecture on the archeology of Old Man House (the largest aboriginal communal dwelling structure on the Pacific Rim) where the Chief died, and will visit his grave--as I have done several times before. I am somewhat of an expert on the Puget Sound tribes and may digress in that direction for the next post in this series...
> No, maybe if it was south of Owl and Thistle. I know most places south of Owl and Thistle.
> (North of Dearborn.)
>
> Patty, if you want to have "Seattle sci.talk get-togethers", well say so,
> then simply say "let's get together" as what we can have some lunchtime
> or weekend wile-away.

I'm trying to find Bodkin's relatives in Fremont to find out his fate, and to invite them to attend. Legion will want to maintain his anonymity--we can get him a wrestler's head mask and a Stephen Hawkings talking machine. The Owl & Thistle if fine. So is Slim's Last Chance, the Clock Out...are you old enough to remember the Riverside Inn in Tukwila on the banks of the Duwamish?
>
> Seattle has been very tolerant of all the things since COVID, it's a nice
> city, though inflation is rampant, I can take it or leave it.
>
> Yeah, to this day there are uranium operations from Tri-Cities all the way
> out to Burns, Oregon, or Tri-State, as it were.

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 by: Gary Harnagel - Sat, 14 Oct 2023 15:12 UTC

On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 11:24:02 PM UTC-6, patdolan wrote:
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> The main point is that it just so happened that for whatever reason, the Big Ben Paradox
> originated in the gray matter of MY brain. So it turned out that Richland insured that
> particular gray matter's existence. And now you know the REST of the story.

"If you want to have good ideas, you must have many ideas."
– Linus Pauling

Moral: Don't stop at just one because it's not likely to be a good one :-)

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 by: patdolan - Sat, 14 Oct 2023 16:08 UTC

On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 8:12:52 AM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 11:24:02 PM UTC-6, patdolan wrote:
> >
> > The main point is that it just so happened that for whatever reason, the Big Ben Paradox
> > originated in the gray matter of MY brain. So it turned out that Richland insured that
> > particular gray matter's existence. And now you know the REST of the story.
> "If you want to have good ideas, you must have many ideas."
> – Linus Pauling
>
> Moral: Don't stop at just one because it's not likely to be a good one :-)
No Gary Harnagel. I am stopping with the Big Ben Paradox. For whatever reason, Divine Providence chose me to deliver this one BIG idea, this one last gadanken fatal to relativity, in order to put science back on track and rid its ranks of the magicians. Science has its roots in magic. And it still manages to draw those with the personality type who would be sorcerers, warlocks or medicine men in another time. Don't believe me? Then I have three words for you: "String Theory" and the "Multiverse". Oh yes, and "Tachyons". We can't leave those out.

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 by: Ross Finlayson - Sat, 14 Oct 2023 17:51 UTC

On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:08:17 AM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 8:12:52 AM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 11:24:02 PM UTC-6, patdolan wrote:
> > >
> > > The main point is that it just so happened that for whatever reason, the Big Ben Paradox
> > > originated in the gray matter of MY brain. So it turned out that Richland insured that
> > > particular gray matter's existence. And now you know the REST of the story.
> > "If you want to have good ideas, you must have many ideas."
> > – Linus Pauling
> >
> > Moral: Don't stop at just one because it's not likely to be a good one :-)
> No Gary Harnagel. I am stopping with the Big Ben Paradox. For whatever reason, Divine Providence chose me to deliver this one BIG idea, this one last gadanken fatal to relativity, in order to put science back on track and rid its ranks of the magicians. Science has its roots in magic. And it still manages to draw those with the personality type who would be sorcerers, warlocks or medicine men in another time. Don't believe me? Then I have three words for you: "String Theory" and the "Multiverse". Oh yes, and "Tachyons". We can't leave those out.

String theory is just part of re-attaching continuum mechanics to quantum theory.

Tachyons are hypothetically when anything "approaches" the speed of light
as what comes "down" from light speed, mostly virtual.

"Multiverse" is an oxymoron in a "Universe".

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 by: Gary Harnagel - Sat, 14 Oct 2023 21:25 UTC

On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 10:08:17 AM UTC-6, patdolan wrote:
>
> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 8:12:52 AM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> >
> > On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 11:24:02 PM UTC-6, patdolan wrote:
> > >
> > > The main point is that it just so happened that for whatever reason, the Big Ben Paradox
> > > originated in the gray matter of MY brain. So it turned out that Richland insured that
> > > particular gray matter's existence. And now you know the REST of the story.
> >
> > "If you want to have good ideas, you must have many ideas."
> > – Linus Pauling
> >
> > Moral: Don't stop at just one because it's not likely to be a good one :-)
>
> No Gary Harnagel. I am stopping with the Big Ben Paradox. For whatever reason, Divine
> Providence chose me to deliver this one BIG idea, this one last gadanken fatal to relativity,

Too bad Weber's equation blew it out of the water ... er ... ether ... space.

> in order to put science back on track and rid its ranks of the magicians. Science has its
> roots in magic.

Some believe that of religion.

> And it still manages to draw those with the personality type who would be sorcerers, warlocks
> or medicine men in another time.

In a sense that's true. Humanity strives for security. They want to feel safe. In attempting to
attain it, many acquire wealth and many acquire knowledge by embracing religion, or going for
magic or become students of science. Some try for various combinations of all.

> Don't believe me? Then I have three words for you: "String Theory"

String theory has one indispensable idea going for it: no particle can have zero size. Unfortunately,
the size of elementary particles is on the order of the Planck length, which is much smaller than
experiment can resolve, but it has other attractions:

“the mathematical structure of string theory was so beautiful and had so
many miraculous properties that it had to be pointing toward something
deep.” – John Schwarz

“I feel that we are so close with string theory that – in my moments
of greatest optimism – I imagine that any day, the final form of the
theory might drop out of the sky and land in someone’s lap.”
-- Edward Witten

“The moment you encounter string theory and realize that almost all of
the major developments in physics over the last hundred years emerge -
and emerge with such elegance – from such a simple starting point,
you realize that this incredibly compelling theory is in a class of its own..”
-- Michael Green

"Everyone in string theory is convinced...that spacetime is doomed. But
we don't know what it's replaced by." – David Gross

"String Theory isn't complete or perfect, and may never become either. It may eventually come to be understood as merely a step, or more likely a collection of important steps and some missteps that were still inevitable in our quest for a unified theory.

"But branding it 'nonsense' is just ignorant. Whatever it is – almost the
whole truth, a glimpse of the truth, or a beautiful non-truth which
miraculously manages to come ever so close to the truth – one thing it
cannot be is nonsense. It's a magnificent, shining edifice of such internal
cohesiveness and beauty that it almost doesn't matter if it doesn't
describe our own universe: the universe it does describe deserves our
attention and exploration. -- Alon Amit

> and the "Multiverse".

Just another VERSE in the song of everything.

> Oh yes, and "Tachyons". We can't leave those out.

No indeed. When you consider the relativistic energy equation:

E^2 - p^2c^2 = m^2c^4

(which, had you known of it, you wouldn't have made that gaff
when you tried to treat photons the same as objects with rest mass)
wherein m^2 > 0 refers to particles with positive rest mass and
m^2 = 0 refers to particle with no rest mass, it would seem worthwhile
to consider the possibility of particles with m^2 < 0.

"The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little
 way past them into the impossible." -- Arthur C. Clarke

“Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, Or what's a heaven for?”
― Robert Browning


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