After Maui fires, human health risks linger in the air, water and even surviving buildings

"When fires spread through communities, as we’ve seen more often in recent years, they burn structures that contain treated wood, plastics, paints and hazardous household wastes. They can burn vehicles and melt plastic water pipes. All of these items release toxic gases and particles.

Many airborne pollutants fall to the ground, and when debris or dust is stirred up, hazardous particles can enter the air, where people can easily breathe them in."

"Black smoke from a fire is a sign of incomplete combustion that can produce thousands of chemicals when wood and plastics burn.

Chemicals like benzene, lead, asbestos and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, or PAHs, are common in ash, runoff and sometimes water systems after fires."

https://theconversation.com/after-maui-fires-human-health-risks-linger-in-the-air-water-and-even-surviving-buildings-211404

On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 08:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>After Maui fires, human health risks linger in the air, water and even surviving buildings
>
>"When fires spread through communities, as we’ve seen more often in recent years, they burn structures that contain treated wood, plastics, paints and hazardous household wastes. They can burn vehicles and melt plastic water pipes. All of these items release toxic gases and particles.
>
>Many airborne pollutants fall to the ground, and when debris or dust is stirred up, hazardous particles can enter the air, where people can easily breathe them in."
>
>"Black smoke from a fire is a sign of incomplete combustion that can produce thousands of chemicals when wood and plastics burn.
>
>Chemicals like benzene, lead, asbestos and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, or PAHs, are common in ash, runoff and sometimes water systems after fires."
>
>https://theconversation.com/after-maui-fires-human-health-risks-linger-in-the-air-water-and-even-surviving-buildings-211404

About a billion people cook indoors over open fires with wood or dung.
They and their kids are exposed to that for a lifetime.

On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 12:17:51 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 08:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >After Maui fires, human health risks linger in the air, water and even surviving buildings
> >
> >"When fires spread through communities, as we’ve seen more often in recent years, they burn structures that contain treated wood, plastics, paints and hazardous household wastes. They can burn vehicles and melt plastic water pipes. All of these items release toxic gases and particles.
> >
> >Many airborne pollutants fall to the ground, and when debris or dust is stirred up, hazardous particles can enter the air, where people can easily breathe them in."
> >
> >"Black smoke from a fire is a sign of incomplete combustion that can produce thousands of chemicals when wood and plastics burn.
> >
> >Chemicals like benzene, lead, asbestos and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, or PAHs, are common in ash, runoff and sometimes water systems after fires."
> >
> >https://theconversation.com/after-maui-fires-human-health-risks-linger-in-the-air-water-and-even-surviving-buildings-211404
> About a billion people cook indoors over open fires with wood or dung.
> They and their kids are exposed to that for a lifetime.

They're burning " treated wood, plastics, paints and hazardous household wastes " ?

On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 10:29:35 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 12:17:51?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 08:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >After Maui fires, human health risks linger in the air, water and even surviving buildings
>> >
>> >"When fires spread through communities, as we’ve seen more often in recent years, they burn structures that contain treated wood, plastics, paints and hazardous household wastes. They can burn vehicles and melt plastic water pipes. All of these items release toxic gases and particles.
>> >
>> >Many airborne pollutants fall to the ground, and when debris or dust is stirred up, hazardous particles can enter the air, where people can easily breathe them in."
>> >
>> >"Black smoke from a fire is a sign of incomplete combustion that can produce thousands of chemicals when wood and plastics burn.
>> >
>> >Chemicals like benzene, lead, asbestos and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, or PAHs, are common in ash, runoff and sometimes water systems after fires."
>> >
>> >https://theconversation.com/after-maui-fires-human-health-risks-linger-in-the-air-water-and-even-surviving-buildings-211404
>> About a billion people cook indoors over open fires with wood or dung.
>> They and their kids are exposed to that for a lifetime.
>
>They're burning " treated wood, plastics, paints and hazardous household wastes " ?

Anything they can find. Every day.

On Saturday, 19 August 2023 at 20:00:01 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 10:29:35 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 12:17:51?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> >> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 08:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >After Maui fires, human health risks linger in the air, water and even surviving buildings
> >> >
> >> >"When fires spread through communities, as we’ve seen more often in recent years, they burn structures that contain treated wood, plastics, paints and hazardous household wastes. They can burn vehicles and melt plastic water pipes. All of these items release toxic gases and particles.
> >> >
> >> >Many airborne pollutants fall to the ground, and when debris or dust is stirred up, hazardous particles can enter the air, where people can easily breathe them in."
> >> >
> >> >"Black smoke from a fire is a sign of incomplete combustion that can produce thousands of chemicals when wood and plastics burn.
> >> >
> >> >Chemicals like benzene, lead, asbestos and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, or PAHs, are common in ash, runoff and sometimes water systems after fires."
> >> >
> >> >https://theconversation.com/after-maui-fires-human-health-risks-linger-in-the-air-water-and-even-surviving-buildings-211404
> >> About a billion people cook indoors over open fires with wood or dung.
> >> They and their kids are exposed to that for a lifetime.
> >
> >They're burning " treated wood, plastics, paints and hazardous household wastes " ?
> Anything they can find. Every day.

A lot of them suffer severe respiratory problems as a result.

John

On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 8:15:41 AM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> After Maui fires, human health risks linger in the air, water and even surviving buildings
>
> "When fires spread through communities, as we’ve seen more often in recent years, they burn structures that contain treated wood, plastics, paints and hazardous household wastes. They can burn vehicles and melt plastic water pipes. All of these items release toxic gases and particles.
>
> Many airborne pollutants fall to the ground, and when debris or dust is stirred up, hazardous particles can enter the air, where people can easily breathe them in."
>
> "Black smoke from a fire is a sign of incomplete combustion that can produce thousands of chemicals when wood and plastics burn.
>
> Chemicals like benzene, lead, asbestos and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, or PAHs, are common in ash, runoff and sometimes water systems after fires."
>
> https://theconversation.com/after-maui-fires-human-health-risks-linger-in-the-air-water-and-even-surviving-buildings-211404

This is just MORE reasons why these incompetent Maui officials need to be held CRIMINALLY RESPONSIBLE.

On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 11:42:58 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 8:15:41 AM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > After Maui fires, human health risks linger in the air, water and even surviving buildings
> >
> > "When fires spread through communities, as we’ve seen more often in recent years, they burn structures that contain treated wood, plastics, paints and hazardous household wastes. They can burn vehicles and melt plastic water pipes. All of these items release toxic gases and particles.
> >
> > Many airborne pollutants fall to the ground, and when debris or dust is stirred up, hazardous particles can enter the air, where people can easily breathe them in."
> >
> > "Black smoke from a fire is a sign of incomplete combustion that can produce thousands of chemicals when wood and plastics burn.
> >
> > Chemicals like benzene, lead, asbestos and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, or PAHs, are common in ash, runoff and sometimes water systems after fires."
> >
> > https://theconversation.com/after-maui-fires-human-health-risks-linger-in-the-air-water-and-even-surviving-buildings-211404
>
> This is just MORE reasons why these incompetent Maui officials need to be held CRIMINALLY RESPONSIBLE.

For what? They didn't start the fires, and there's no evidence that anything that they could have done could have prevented the fires or made them less destructive.

That won't stop people suing the orgaisations they worked for - the deep pocket doctrine persuades lawyers to sue anybody who might be able to pay - but it is nonsense.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 9:42:58 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 8:15:41 AM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > After Maui fires, human health risks linger in the air, water and even surviving buildings
> >
> > "When fires spread through communities, as we’ve seen more often in recent years, they burn structures that contain treated wood, plastics, paints and hazardous household wastes. They can burn vehicles and melt plastic water pipes. All of these items release toxic gases and particles.
> >
> > Many airborne pollutants fall to the ground, and when debris or dust is stirred up, hazardous particles can enter the air, where people can easily breathe them in."
> >
> > "Black smoke from a fire is a sign of incomplete combustion that can produce thousands of chemicals when wood and plastics burn.
> >
> > Chemicals like benzene, lead, asbestos and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, or PAHs, are common in ash, runoff and sometimes water systems after fires."
> >
> > https://theconversation.com/after-maui-fires-human-health-risks-linger-in-the-air-water-and-even-surviving-buildings-211404
> This is just MORE reasons why these incompetent Maui officials need to be held CRIMINALLY RESPONSIBLE.

There is technology to prevent this kind of contamination, there are even federal regulations mandating it. The Maui system was poorly designed and /or maintained. Same goes for the joke developments in California.

https://www.waterworld.com/home/article/14070868/backflow-prevention-methods