On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 5:24:58 AM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 08:36:13 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid..invalid> wrote:
>
> > On 30/08/2023 21:56, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 18:46:22 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
> >> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 30/08/2023 18:29, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 09:35:54 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
> >>>> <C...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 09:18:28 +0100, Spike
> >>>>> <aero....@btinternet.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Commander Kinsey <C...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <propaganda snipped>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What you see every day on your own country's news channel is the
> >>>>> propaganda! You're so gullible!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You have to ask why the UK blocks RT news. They had it removed
> >>>>> from Sky TV, then feebly tried to block it on the internet. I know
> >>>>> sir, I know! The government doesn't want us hearing both sides of
> >>>>> the argument, letting us make up our own minds would never do.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sadly you're right. The fact that we're only hearing one side of the
> >>>> argument is concerning indeed. This article and the interview with
> >>>> someone who actually *does* know what's really going on is even more
> >>>> concerning. Everyone needs to know what we're getting sucked into
> >>>> here and how it could all end really badly for us all.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Oh there is plenty of access to Russian propaganda and hundreds of paid
> >>> trolls in Ste Petersburg all repeating the Russian party line.
> >>>
> >>>> https://www.zerohedge.com/political/us-brink-catastrophic-war-could-easily-destroy-us-col-douglas-macgregor-tells-tucker
> >>>
> >>> And there is some of it ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >>
> >> Zerohedge is an independent, right of centre financial news
> >> aggregating site. It's not some mouthpiece of Putin or anyone else for
> >> that matter.
> >
> > Zerohedde is a conspiracy theory website.
> >
> >> When Churchill said the greatest argument against democracy was a 5
> >> minute conversation with the average voter, he clearly had someone
> >> very much like you in mind.
> >
> > Sticks and stones
> >
> > I've been dealing with people who claim that Russia was entirely
> > justified, Russia was going to win in a month so why bother, Russia
> > only wanted to liberate its people in the Donbas, Russia was inflicting
> > such heavy losses on Ukraine that they had already lost their whole
> > population twice over, that Russian sanctions on the UK meant that
> > people were reduced to eating squirrels for dinner, that a big Russian
> > offensive would see them in Kiev (always spelled the Russian way) in a week.
> >
> > I think the average voter is you. Can't tell propaganda and conspiracy
> > theory from fact.
> >
> > I am anything BUT average. I have been researching this war and its
> > background on a daily basis, and I don't get my news of the Daily Wank
> > or the Boy Buggering Communists, or the New York Tosses. Or Faux news.
> >
> > Russian state was and still is very wealthy. Which costs less, a Western
> > journalist, a Republic and or Democrat senator, or the whore he was
> > filmed with, or an S300 guided missile?
> >
> > Why would Russia *not* have half the western 'influencers' in its
> > pocket, sane as the EU does?
> The Ukraine ought to just get back in the USSR.

Some Ukrainian should, but that's a small minority. They are free to leave Ukraine and go back to Russia. Majority of Ukrainian, and UA as a county. want to align with the west.

Some people in UK and EU should also leave and go back to Russia.

On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 06:04:59 -0700 (PDT), Eddy Lee
<eddy711lee@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 5:24:58?AM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 08:36:13 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> > On 30/08/2023 21:56, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 18:46:22 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>> >> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 30/08/2023 18:29, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> >>>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 09:35:54 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
>> >>>> <C...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 09:18:28 +0100, Spike
>> >>>>> <aero....@btinternet.invalid> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Commander Kinsey <C...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> <propaganda snipped>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> What you see every day on your own country's news channel is the
>> >>>>> propaganda! You're so gullible!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> You have to ask why the UK blocks RT news. They had it removed
>> >>>>> from Sky TV, then feebly tried to block it on the internet. I know
>> >>>>> sir, I know! The government doesn't want us hearing both sides of
>> >>>>> the argument, letting us make up our own minds would never do.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sadly you're right. The fact that we're only hearing one side of the
>> >>>> argument is concerning indeed. This article and the interview with
>> >>>> someone who actually *does* know what's really going on is even more
>> >>>> concerning. Everyone needs to know what we're getting sucked into
>> >>>> here and how it could all end really badly for us all.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Oh there is plenty of access to Russian propaganda and hundreds of paid
>> >>> trolls in Ste Petersburg all repeating the Russian party line.
>> >>>
>> >>>> https://www.zerohedge.com/political/us-brink-catastrophic-war-could-easily-destroy-us-col-douglas-macgregor-tells-tucker
>> >>>
>> >>> And there is some of it ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >>
>> >> Zerohedge is an independent, right of centre financial news
>> >> aggregating site. It's not some mouthpiece of Putin or anyone else for
>> >> that matter.
>> >
>> > Zerohedde is a conspiracy theory website.
>> >
>> >> When Churchill said the greatest argument against democracy was a 5
>> >> minute conversation with the average voter, he clearly had someone
>> >> very much like you in mind.
>> >
>> > Sticks and stones
>> >
>> > I've been dealing with people who claim that Russia was entirely
>> > justified, Russia was going to win in a month so why bother, Russia
>> > only wanted to liberate its people in the Donbas, Russia was inflicting
>> > such heavy losses on Ukraine that they had already lost their whole
>> > population twice over, that Russian sanctions on the UK meant that
>> > people were reduced to eating squirrels for dinner, that a big Russian
>> > offensive would see them in Kiev (always spelled the Russian way) in a week.
>> >
>> > I think the average voter is you. Can't tell propaganda and conspiracy
>> > theory from fact.
>> >
>> > I am anything BUT average. I have been researching this war and its
>> > background on a daily basis, and I don't get my news of the Daily Wank
>> > or the Boy Buggering Communists, or the New York Tosses. Or Faux news.
>> >
>> > Russian state was and still is very wealthy. Which costs less, a Western
>> > journalist, a Republic and or Democrat senator, or the whore he was
>> > filmed with, or an S300 guided missile?
>> >
>> > Why would Russia *not* have half the western 'influencers' in its
>> > pocket, sane as the EU does?
>> The Ukraine ought to just get back in the USSR.
>
>Some Ukrainian should, but that's a small minority. They are free to leave Ukraine and go back to Russia. Majority of Ukrainian, and UA as a county. want to align with the west.

Russia should align with the West and become a nice european country.
But they are too paranoid. Sad situation, getting worse as the more
sensible Russians leave.

>
>Some people in UK and EU should also leave and go back to Russia.

That usually turns out badly. The Workers' Paradise isn't.