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 by: The Starmaker - Fri, 17 Nov 2023 20:49 UTC

earth and other things revolve
around the sun...
that can only mean one thing..
the sun is not moving.

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 by: The Starmaker - Sat, 18 Nov 2023 04:53 UTC

The Starmaker wrote:
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> earth and other things revolve
> around the sun...
> that can only mean one thing..
> the sun is not moving.

it is my undrstanding...
the sun being a star..
that there are no stars that move.

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 by: The Starmaker - Sat, 18 Nov 2023 05:22 UTC

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
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> On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 12:48:43 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > earth and other things revolve
> > around the sun...
> > that can only mean one thing..
> > the sun is not moving.
>
> No. The Sun takes the solar system around
> the Milky Way... There is no absolute rest...

The Sun takes the solar system around???? isn't it the other way
around??

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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge the unchallengeable.

--
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 by: The Starmaker - Sat, 18 Nov 2023 19:58 UTC

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > earth and other things revolve
> > around the sun...
> > that can only mean one thing..
> > the sun is not moving.
>
> it is my undrstanding...
> the sun being a star..
> that there are no stars that move.
>

Hey! Where is the Big Dipper? I don't see it...it must have moved! Where
did it go????

--
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 by: The Starmaker - Sun, 19 Nov 2023 21:40 UTC

The Starmaker wrote:
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> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > earth and other things revolve
> > > around the sun...
> > > that can only mean one thing..
> > > the sun is not moving.
> >
> > it is my undrstanding...
> > the sun being a star..
> > that there are no stars that move.
> >
>
> Hey! Where is the Big Dipper? I don't see it...it must have moved! Where
> did it go????

Does that North star ever move???

(by move, i mean move it's position)

>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

--
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and challenge the unchallengeable.

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 by: Paul Alsing - Sun, 19 Nov 2023 23:22 UTC

On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 1:40:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > earth and other things revolve
> > > > around the sun...
> > > > that can only mean one thing..
> > > > the sun is not moving.
> > >
> > > it is my undrstanding...
> > > the sun being a star..
> > > that there are no stars that move.
> > >
> >
> > Hey! Where is the Big Dipper? I don't see it...it must have moved! Where
> > did it go????
> Does that North star ever move???
>
> (by move, i mean move it's position)

Since it is not *exactly* above the pole, yes, it does.

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 by: The Starmaker - Mon, 20 Nov 2023 02:02 UTC

Paul Alsing wrote:
>
> On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 1:40:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > earth and other things revolve
> > > > > around the sun...
> > > > > that can only mean one thing..
> > > > > the sun is not moving.
> > > >
> > > > it is my undrstanding...
> > > > the sun being a star..
> > > > that there are no stars that move.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hey! Where is the Big Dipper? I don't see it...it must have moved! Where
> > > did it go????
> > Does that North star ever move???
> >
> > (by move, i mean move it's position)
>
> Since it is not *exactly* above the pole, yes, it does.

You maean North of the North pole is...up?

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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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 by: Paul Alsing - Mon, 20 Nov 2023 02:30 UTC

On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 6:02:21 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> Paul Alsing wrote:
> >
> > On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 1:40:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > earth and other things revolve
> > > > > > around the sun...
> > > > > > that can only mean one thing..
> > > > > > the sun is not moving.
> > > > >
> > > > > it is my undrstanding...
> > > > > the sun being a star..
> > > > > that there are no stars that move.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hey! Where is the Big Dipper? I don't see it...it must have moved! Where
> > > > did it go????
> > > Does that North star ever move???
> > >
> > > (by move, i mean move it's position)
> >
> > Since it is not *exactly* above the pole, yes, it does.
> You maean North of the North pole is...up?

That is not what I said. I said that the north star (Polaris) is south of the actual celestial pole. This is basic astronomy 101... read a danf textbook!

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 by: The Starmaker - Mon, 20 Nov 2023 05:27 UTC

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Paul Alsing wrote:
> >
> > On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 1:40:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > earth and other things revolve
> > > > > > around the sun...
> > > > > > that can only mean one thing..
> > > > > > the sun is not moving.
> > > > >
> > > > > it is my undrstanding...
> > > > > the sun being a star..
> > > > > that there are no stars that move.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hey! Where is the Big Dipper? I don't see it...it must have moved! Where
> > > > did it go????
> > > Does that North star ever move???
> > >
> > > (by move, i mean move it's position)
> >
> > Since it is not *exactly* above the pole, yes, it does.
>
> You maean North of the North pole is...up?

Just because it is above/up the pole of the North pole above up doesn't
mean it is moving. Polaris does not move it's position. It is ...fixed.

It does not move.

Where does it say Polaris...moves?

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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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 by: Tom Roberts - Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:14 UTC

On 11/19/23 11:27 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Polaris does not move it's position. It is ...fixed.

You are IMPLICITLY assuming "relative to the earth" (as the earth rotates).

You are wrong -- Polaris is not exactly in line with the earth's axis,
and is IS observed to move a little bit as the earth rotates.

Tom Roberts

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