A retired aerospace engineer, Richard Godfrey, analyzed radio wave propagation data from the Weak Signal Propagation Reporter network developed by hams to pinpoint MH370's crash site to a 300 sq mi area. This sounds like a lot, but previous estimates where hundreds of thousands of sq mi.
https://www.airlineratings.com/news/mh370-new-research-paper-confirms-wsprnet-tracking-technology/
Here is the full report:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkolz2mxr1rhepb/MH370%20GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%20Analysis%20Technical%20Report%2015MAR2022.pdf?dl=0
Godfrey was approached by Netflix for a documentary about MH370, but declined as they only wanted conspiratorial viewpoints. In fact, the Netflix "documentary" peddles the idea of a Russian conspiracy where MH370 was hijacked by three Russians and flown to Kazakhstan. They do this by entering the electronics bay and take control of the aircraft and lock out the pilot's controls. Obviously, Godfrey's flight path totally refutes this theory.

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 2:48:13 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
> A retired aerospace engineer, Richard Godfrey, analyzed radio wave propagation data from the Weak Signal Propagation Reporter network developed by hams to pinpoint MH370's crash site to a 300 sq mi area. This sounds like a lot, but previous estimates where hundreds of thousands of sq mi.
> https://www.airlineratings.com/news/mh370-new-research-paper-confirms-wsprnet-tracking-technology/
> Here is the full report:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkolz2mxr1rhepb/MH370%20GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%20Analysis%20Technical%20Report%2015MAR2022.pdf?dl=0
> Godfrey was approached by Netflix for a documentary about MH370, but declined as they only wanted conspiratorial viewpoints. In fact, the Netflix "documentary" peddles the idea of a Russian conspiracy where MH370 was hijacked by three Russians and flown to Kazakhstan. They
do this by entering the electronics bay and take control of the aircraft and lock out the pilot's controls. Obviously, Godfrey's flight path totally refutes this theory.

Here is the flight path report:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k4fn8eec4z9np0z/GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%20MH370%20Analysis%20Flight%20Path%20Report.pdf

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 4:54:30 PM UTC-5, Flyguy wrote:
> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 2:48:13 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
> > A retired aerospace engineer, Richard Godfrey, analyzed radio wave propagation data from the Weak Signal Propagation Reporter network developed by hams to pinpoint MH370's crash site to a 300 sq mi area. This sounds like a lot, but previous estimates where hundreds of thousands of sq mi.
> > https://www.airlineratings.com/news/mh370-new-research-paper-confirms-wsprnet-tracking-technology/
> > Here is the full report:
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkolz2mxr1rhepb/MH370%20GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%20Analysis%20Technical%20Report%2015MAR2022.pdf?dl=0
> > Godfrey was approached by Netflix for a documentary about MH370, but declined as they only wanted conspiratorial viewpoints. In fact, the Netflix "documentary" peddles the idea of a Russian conspiracy where MH370 was hijacked by three Russians and flown to Kazakhstan. They
> do this by entering the electronics bay and take control of the aircraft and lock out the pilot's controls. Obviously, Godfrey's flight path totally refutes this theory.
> Here is the flight path report:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/k4fn8eec4z9np0z/GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%20MH370%20Analysis%20Flight%20Path%20Report.pdf

Captivating! I had no idea that WSPR analysees could produce such results.
Thanks for the link to the paper.
Cheers,
John

On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Sep 2023 14:48:07 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Flyguy
<soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
<e0e044bc-f29f-4cbb-8e21-d257239c46e4n@googlegroups.com>:

>A retired aerospace engineer, Richard Godfrey, analyzed radio wave propagat=
>ion data from the Weak Signal Propagation Reporter network developed by ham=
>s to pinpoint MH370's crash site to a 300 sq mi area. This sounds like a lo=
>t, but previous estimates where hundreds of thousands of sq mi.
>https://www.airlineratings.com/news/mh370-new-research-paper-confirms-wsprn=
>et-tracking-technology/
>Here is the full report:
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkolz2mxr1rhepb/MH370%20GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%20Analysis%20Technical%20Report%2015MAR2022.pdf?dl=0
>Godfrey was approached by Netflix for a documentary about MH370, but declin=
>ed as they only wanted conspiratorial viewpoints. In fact, the Netflix "doc=
>umentary" peddles the idea of a Russian conspiracy where MH370 was hijacked=
> by three Russians and flown to Kazakhstan. They do this by entering the el=
>ectronics bay and take control of the aircraft and lock out the pilot's con=
>trols. Obviously, Godfrey's flight path totally refutes this theory.

Very nice paper, downloaded it, thank you.

On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Sep 2023 14:54:25 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Flyguy
<soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
<bc655578-70af-4d29-93f8-603856063f48n@googlegroups.com>:

>On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 2:48:13 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
>> A retired aerospace engineer, Richard Godfrey, analyzed radio wave propag=
>ation data from the Weak Signal Propagation Reporter network developed by h=
>ams to pinpoint MH370's crash site to a 300 sq mi area. This sounds like a =
>lot, but previous estimates where hundreds of thousands of sq mi.
>> https://www.airlineratings.com/news/mh370-new-research-paper-confirms-wsp=
>rnet-tracking-technology/
>> Here is the full report:
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkolz2mxr1rhepb/MH370%20GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%20Anal=
>ysis%20Technical%20Report%2015MAR2022.pdf?dl=0
>> Godfrey was approached by Netflix for a documentary about MH370, but decl=
>ined as they only wanted conspiratorial viewpoints. In fact, the Netflix "d=
>ocumentary" peddles the idea of a Russian conspiracy where MH370 was hijack=
>ed by three Russians and flown to Kazakhstan. They
>do this by entering the electronics bay and take control of the aircraft an=
>d lock out the pilot's controls. Obviously, Godfrey's flight path totally r=
>efutes this theory.
>
>Here is the flight path report:

>https://www.dropbox.com/s/k4fn8eec4z9np0z/GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%20MH370%20Analysis%20Flight%20Path%20Report.pdf

Got it!

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 5:48:13 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
> A retired aerospace engineer, Richard Godfrey, analyzed radio wave propagation data from the Weak Signal Propagation Reporter network developed by hams to pinpoint MH370's crash site to a 300 sq mi area. This sounds like a lot, but previous estimates where hundreds of thousands of sq mi.
> https://www.airlineratings.com/news/mh370-new-research-paper-confirms-wsprnet-tracking-technology/
> Here is the full report:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkolz2mxr1rhepb/MH370%20GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%20Analysis%20Technical%20Report%2015MAR2022.pdf?dl=0
> Godfrey was approached by Netflix for a documentary about MH370, but declined as they only wanted conspiratorial viewpoints. In fact, the Netflix "documentary" peddles the idea of a Russian conspiracy where MH370 was hijacked by three Russians and flown to Kazakhstan. They do this by entering the electronics bay and take control of the aircraft and lock out the pilot's controls. Obviously, Godfrey's flight path totally refutes this theory.

Can they get fentanyl implicated in some way? Or UFOs maybe.

Drug smuggler stashed something toxic in the OBOG central filtration maybe....

"In February 2022, the Australian Transport Safety Bureau and Geoscience Australia confirmed they were reviewing old data related to MH370, following the release of Godfrey's report.[15] In April, 2022 the data review "concluded that it is highly unlikely there is an aircraft debris field within the reviewed search area."[16]"

https://www.atsb.gov.au/media/news-items/2022/mh370-data-review

On a sunny day (Sat, 2 Sep 2023 04:42:02 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
<e55243f3-fec7-4101-8c1b-e1b4f15e4fe3n@googlegroups.com>:

>On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 5:48:13 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
>> A retired aerospace engineer, Richard Godfrey, analyzed radio wave propag=
>ation data from the Weak Signal Propagation Reporter network developed by h=
>ams to pinpoint MH370's crash site to a 300 sq mi area. This sounds like a =
>lot, but previous estimates where hundreds of thousands of sq mi.
>> https://www.airlineratings.com/news/mh370-new-research-paper-confirms-wsp=
>rnet-tracking-technology/
>> Here is the full report:
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkolz2mxr1rhepb/MH370%20GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%20Anal=
>ysis%20Technical%20Report%2015MAR2022.pdf?dl=0
>> Godfrey was approached by Netflix for a documentary about MH370, but decl=
>ined as they only wanted conspiratorial viewpoints. In fact, the Netflix "d=
>ocumentary" peddles the idea of a Russian conspiracy where MH370 was hijack=
>ed by three Russians and flown to Kazakhstan. They do this by entering the =
>electronics bay and take control of the aircraft and lock out the pilot's c=
>ontrols. Obviously, Godfrey's flight path totally refutes this theory.
>
>Can they get fentanyl implicated in some way? Or UFOs maybe.
>
>Drug smuggler stashed something toxic in the OBOG central filtration maybe.=
>..
>
>
>"In February 2022, the Australian Transport Safety Bureau and Geoscience Au=
>stralia confirmed they were reviewing old data related to MH370, following =
>the release of Godfrey's report.[15] In April, 2022 the data review "conclu=
>ded that it is highly unlikely there is an aircraft debris field within the=
> reviewed search area."[16]"
>
>https://www.atsb.gov.au/media/news-items/2022/mh370-data-review

After reading both papers it seems evident to me that it was a pre-meditated suicide by the pilot.
He must have been 100% concious and in control to make ail those small adjustments.
and the endpoint corresponds to / is the same as the one he had on his flight simulator at home.
That is the third pilot suicide and one who does not give shit about his passengers I read about,
one in France, one in Africa and now this.
Maybe he locked everybody else out the cockpit...

The location has several miles uncertainty, but to look again now with the smaller area may make sense.

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 8:59:07 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Sat, 2 Sep 2023 04:42:02 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in
> <e55243f3-fec7-4101...@googlegroups.com>:
> >On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 5:48:13 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
> >> A retired aerospace engineer, Richard Godfrey, analyzed radio wave propag=
> >ation data from the Weak Signal Propagation Reporter network developed by h=
> >ams to pinpoint MH370's crash site to a 300 sq mi area. This sounds like a > >lot, but previous estimates where hundreds of thousands of sq mi.
> >> https://www.airlineratings.com/news/mh370-new-research-paper-confirms-wsp> >rnet-tracking-technology/
> >> Here is the full report:
> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkolz2mxr1rhepb/MH370%20GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%20Anal=
> >ysis%20Technical%20Report%2015MAR2022.pdf?dl=0
> >> Godfrey was approached by Netflix for a documentary about MH370, but decl=
> >ined as they only wanted conspiratorial viewpoints. In fact, the Netflix "d=
> >ocumentary" peddles the idea of a Russian conspiracy where MH370 was hijack=
> >ed by three Russians and flown to Kazakhstan. They do this by entering the =
> >electronics bay and take control of the aircraft and lock out the pilot's c> >ontrols. Obviously, Godfrey's flight path totally refutes this theory.
> >
> >Can they get fentanyl implicated in some way? Or UFOs maybe.
> >
> >Drug smuggler stashed something toxic in the OBOG central filtration maybe.=
> >..
> >
> >
> >"In February 2022, the Australian Transport Safety Bureau and Geoscience Au=
> >stralia confirmed they were reviewing old data related to MH370, following =
> >the release of Godfrey's report.[15] In April, 2022 the data review "conclu=
> >ded that it is highly unlikely there is an aircraft debris field within the> > reviewed search area."[16]"
> >
> >https://www.atsb.gov.au/media/news-items/2022/mh370-data-review
> After reading both papers it seems evident to me that it was a pre-meditated suicide by the pilot.
> He must have been 100% concious and in control to make ail those small adjustments.
> and the endpoint corresponds to / is the same as the one he had on his flight simulator at home.
> That is the third pilot suicide and one who does not give shit about his passengers I read about,
> one in France, one in Africa and now this.
> Maybe he locked everybody else out the cockpit...
>
> The location has several miles uncertainty, but to look again now with the smaller area may make sense.

Not sure. But don't all suicide flights crash on the planned route? This one crashed because it ran out of fuel. Pilot could have programmed a death route and then shot himself or took a pill.

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On a sunny day (Sat, 2 Sep 2023 06:18:05 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
<d8c35725-1608-4f22-a3ea-6c15388dbd10n@googlegroups.com>:

>On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 8:59:07 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje w=
>rote:
>> On a sunny day (Sat, 2 Sep 2023 04:42:02 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bl=
>oggs
>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <e55243f3-fec7-4101...@googlegroups.com>:
>> >On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 5:48:13 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
>> >> A retired aerospace engineer, Richard Godfrey, analyzed radio wave pro=
>pag=
>> >ation data from the Weak Signal Propagation Reporter network developed b=
>y h=
>> >ams to pinpoint MH370's crash site to a 300 sq mi area. This sounds like=
> a =
>> >lot, but previous estimates where hundreds of thousands of sq mi.
>> >> https://www.airlineratings.com/news/mh370-new-research-paper-confirms-=
>wsp=
>> >rnet-tracking-technology/
>> >> Here is the full report:
>> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkolz2mxr1rhepb/MH370%20GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%20A=
>nal=
>> >ysis%20Technical%20Report%2015MAR2022.pdf?dl=0
>> >> Godfrey was approached by Netflix for a documentary about MH370, but d=
>ecl=
>> >ined as they only wanted conspiratorial viewpoints. In fact, the Netflix=
> "d=
>> >ocumentary" peddles the idea of a Russian conspiracy where MH370 was hij=
>ack=
>> >ed by three Russians and flown to Kazakhstan. They do this by entering t=
>he =
>> >electronics bay and take control of the aircraft and lock out the pilot'=
>s c=
>> >ontrols. Obviously, Godfrey's flight path totally refutes this theory.=
>
>> >
>> >Can they get fentanyl implicated in some way? Or UFOs maybe.
>> >
>> >Drug smuggler stashed something toxic in the OBOG central filtration may=
>be.=
>> >..
>> >
>> >
>> >"In February 2022, the Australian Transport Safety Bureau and Geoscience=
> Au=
>> >stralia confirmed they were reviewing old data related to MH370, followi=
>ng =
>> >the release of Godfrey's report.[15] In April, 2022 the data review "con=
>clu=
>> >ded that it is highly unlikely there is an aircraft debris field within =
>the=
>> > reviewed search area."[16]"
>> >
>> >https://www.atsb.gov.au/media/news-items/2022/mh370-data-review
>> After reading both papers it seems evident to me that it was a pre-medita=
>ted suicide by the pilot.
>> He must have been 100% concious and in control to make ail those small ad=
>justments.
>> and the endpoint corresponds to / is the same as the one he had on his fl=
>ight simulator at home.
>> That is the third pilot suicide and one who does not give shit about his =
>passengers I read about,
>> one in France, one in Africa and now this.
>> Maybe he locked everybody else out the cockpit...
>>
>> The location has several miles uncertainty, but to look again now with th=
>e smaller area may make sense.
>
>Not sure. But don't all suicide flights crash on the planned route? This o=
>ne crashed because it ran out of fuel. Pilot could have programmed a death =
>route and then shot himself or took a pill.

the route has funny things like flying in a rectangle
see page 49 and so on of
GDTAAA_WSPRnet_MH370_Analysis_Flight_Path_Report.pdf

many other corrections too
Not sure you can program the MH370 auto-pilot do do all that all by itself.
My drone can, but then again... You need to enter GPS locations,
altitude.. speed.

On 2023-09-02 08:58, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Sat, 2 Sep 2023 04:42:02 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
> <e55243f3-fec7-4101-8c1b-e1b4f15e4fe3n@googlegroups.com>:
<snip>
>
> After reading both papers it seems evident to me that it was a pre-meditated suicide by the pilot.
> He must have been 100% concious and in control to make ail those small adjustments.
> and the endpoint corresponds to / is the same as the one he had on his flight simulator at home.
> That is the third pilot suicide and one who does not give shit about his passengers I read about,
> one in France, one in Africa and now this.
> Maybe he locked everybody else out the cockpit...

Don't forget the Germanwings guy.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

On a sunny day (Sat, 2 Sep 2023 20:30:58 -0400) it happened Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
<8cc4d3a2-04aa-9058-444b-5bc1b9f9eacc@electrooptical.net>:

>On 2023-09-02 08:58, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Sat, 2 Sep 2023 04:42:02 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs
>> <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <e55243f3-fec7-4101-8c1b-e1b4f15e4fe3n@googlegroups.com>:
><snip>
>>
>> After reading both papers it seems evident to me that it was a pre-meditated suicide by the pilot.
>> He must have been 100% concious and in control to make ail those small adjustments.
>> and the endpoint corresponds to / is the same as the one he had on his flight simulator at home.
>> That is the third pilot suicide and one who does not give shit about his passengers I read about,
>> one in France, one in Africa and now this.
>> Maybe he locked everybody else out the cockpit...
>
>Don't forget the Germanwings guy.

That was in France, it crashed in the French Alps.

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 11:17:32 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Sat, 2 Sep 2023 06:18:05 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in
> <d8c35725-1608-4f22...@googlegroups.com>:
>
> >On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 8:59:07 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje w=
> >rote:
> >> On a sunny day (Sat, 2 Sep 2023 04:42:02 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bl> >oggs
> >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >> <e55243f3-fec7-4101...@googlegroups.com>:
> >> >On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 5:48:13 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
> >> >> A retired aerospace engineer, Richard Godfrey, analyzed radio wave pro=
> >pag=
> >> >ation data from the Weak Signal Propagation Reporter network developed b=
> >y h=
> >> >ams to pinpoint MH370's crash site to a 300 sq mi area. This sounds like> > a =
> >> >lot, but previous estimates where hundreds of thousands of sq mi.
> >> >> https://www.airlineratings.com/news/mh370-new-research-paper-confirms-> >wsp=
> >> >rnet-tracking-technology/
> >> >> Here is the full report:
> >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkolz2mxr1rhepb/MH370%20GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%20A=
> >nal=
> >> >ysis%20Technical%20Report%2015MAR2022.pdf?dl=0
> >> >> Godfrey was approached by Netflix for a documentary about MH370, but d=
> >ecl=
> >> >ined as they only wanted conspiratorial viewpoints. In fact, the Netflix=
> > "d=
> >> >ocumentary" peddles the idea of a Russian conspiracy where MH370 was hij=
> >ack=
> >> >ed by three Russians and flown to Kazakhstan. They do this by entering t=
> >he =
> >> >electronics bay and take control of the aircraft and lock out the pilot'=
> >s c=
> >> >ontrols. Obviously, Godfrey's flight path totally refutes this theory..> >
> >> >
> >> >Can they get fentanyl implicated in some way? Or UFOs maybe.
> >> >
> >> >Drug smuggler stashed something toxic in the OBOG central filtration may=
> >be.=
> >> >..
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"In February 2022, the Australian Transport Safety Bureau and Geoscience=
> > Au=
> >> >stralia confirmed they were reviewing old data related to MH370, followi=
> >ng =
> >> >the release of Godfrey's report.[15] In April, 2022 the data review "con=
> >clu=
> >> >ded that it is highly unlikely there is an aircraft debris field within > >the=
> >> > reviewed search area."[16]"
> >> >
> >> >https://www.atsb.gov.au/media/news-items/2022/mh370-data-review
> >> After reading both papers it seems evident to me that it was a pre-medita> >ted suicide by the pilot.
> >> He must have been 100% concious and in control to make ail those small ad=
> >justments.
> >> and the endpoint corresponds to / is the same as the one he had on his fl=
> >ight simulator at home.
> >> That is the third pilot suicide and one who does not give shit about his > >passengers I read about,
> >> one in France, one in Africa and now this.
> >> Maybe he locked everybody else out the cockpit...
> >>
> >> The location has several miles uncertainty, but to look again now with th> >e smaller area may make sense.
> >
> >Not sure. But don't all suicide flights crash on the planned route? This o=
> >ne crashed because it ran out of fuel. Pilot could have programmed a death > >route and then shot himself or took a pill.
> the route has funny things like flying in a rectangle
> see page 49 and so on of
> GDTAAA_WSPRnet_MH370_Analysis_Flight_Path_Report.pdf
>
> many other corrections too
> Not sure you can program the MH370 auto-pilot do do all that all by itself.
> My drone can, but then again... You need to enter GPS locations,
> altitude.. speed.

The reality is Asian commercial pilots commit suicide like this ALL the time. But there're strong political and economic reasons for their phony accident investigations to come up short of making that finding.

The most recent one:

https://www.planeandpilotmag.com/news/the-latest/pilot-murder-suicide-likely-cause-of-china-eastern-air-disaster/

When you start losing parts of the wings and other control surfaces, that kind of gives away the pilot was deliberately operating the aircraft outside its envelope. Boeing was convinced of their finding based upon the data. China was angry with it.

MH370 was a mid-life crisis thing.

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 7:39:45 PM UTC-7, John Smiht wrote:
> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 4:54:30 PM UTC-5, Flyguy wrote:
> > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 2:48:13 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
> > > A retired aerospace engineer, Richard Godfrey, analyzed radio wave propagation data from the Weak Signal Propagation Reporter network developed by hams to pinpoint MH370's crash site to a 300 sq mi area. This sounds like a lot, but previous estimates where hundreds of thousands of sq mi.
> > > https://www.airlineratings.com/news/mh370-new-research-paper-confirms-wsprnet-tracking-technology/
> > > Here is the full report:
> > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkolz2mxr1rhepb/MH370%20GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%20Analysis%20Technical%20Report%2015MAR2022.pdf?dl=0
> > > Godfrey was approached by Netflix for a documentary about MH370, but declined as they only wanted conspiratorial viewpoints. In fact, the Netflix "documentary" peddles the idea of a Russian conspiracy where MH370 was hijacked by three Russians and flown to Kazakhstan. They
> > do this by entering the electronics bay and take control of the aircraft and lock out the pilot's controls. Obviously, Godfrey's flight path totally refutes this theory.
> > Here is the flight path report:
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/k4fn8eec4z9np0z/GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%20MH370%20Analysis%20Flight%20Path%20Report.pdf
> Captivating! I had no idea that WSPR analysees could produce such results..
> Thanks for the link to the paper.
> Cheers,
> John

This is from the Comments section of the following article:

Dave Pergamon, Perth, Australia, 2 days ago

I'm a radio ham and I know full well that WSPR is not technically capable of tracking aircraft movements. For starters, WSPR frequencies and power levels are far too low to detect aircraft and anyhow, WSPR radio waves travel in the ionosphere, 80 to 600 km above the Earth's surface, whereas maximum altitude commercial aircraft fly at is around 30,000 feet or about ten kilometres. No professional radio physicist or atmospheric scientist of any repute would put their names to this kind of pseudo-scientific BS.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12468439/MH370-flight-bombshell-claim-resting-place-revealed.html

On a sunny day (Mon, 4 Sep 2023 09:47:14 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
<83dd46ae-0e3e-484b-9d87-d0eba79ed250n@googlegroups.com>:

>On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 11:17:32 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje =
>wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Sat, 2 Sep 2023 06:18:05 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bl=
>oggs
>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <d8c35725-1608-4f22...@googlegroups.com>:
>>
>> >On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 8:59:07 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltj=
>e w=
>> >rote:
>> >> On a sunny day (Sat, 2 Sep 2023 04:42:02 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred=
> Bl=
>> >oggs
>> >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> >> <e55243f3-fec7-4101...@googlegroups.com>:
>> >> >On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 5:48:13 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrot=
>e:
>> >> >> A retired aerospace engineer, Richard Godfrey, analyzed radio wave =
>pro=
>> >pag=
>> >> >ation data from the Weak Signal Propagation Reporter network develope=
>d b=
>> >y h=
>> >> >ams to pinpoint MH370's crash site to a 300 sq mi area. This sounds l=
>ike=
>> > a =
>> >> >lot, but previous estimates where hundreds of thousands of sq mi.
>> >> >> https://www.airlineratings.com/news/mh370-new-research-paper-confir=
>ms-=
>> >wsp=
>> >> >rnet-tracking-technology/
>> >> >> Here is the full report:
>> >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkolz2mxr1rhepb/MH370%20GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%=
>20A=
>> >nal=
>> >> >ysis%20Technical%20Report%2015MAR2022.pdf?dl=0
>> >> >> Godfrey was approached by Netflix for a documentary about MH370, bu=
>t d=
>> >ecl=
>> >> >ined as they only wanted conspiratorial viewpoints. In fact, the Netf=
>lix=
>> > "d=
>> >> >ocumentary" peddles the idea of a Russian conspiracy where MH370 was =
>hij=
>> >ack=
>> >> >ed by three Russians and flown to Kazakhstan. They do this by enterin=
>g t=
>> >he =
>> >> >electronics bay and take control of the aircraft and lock out the pil=
>ot'=
>> >s c=
>> >> >ontrols. Obviously, Godfrey's flight path totally refutes this theory=
>.=
>> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Can they get fentanyl implicated in some way? Or UFOs maybe.
>> >> >
>> >> >Drug smuggler stashed something toxic in the OBOG central filtration =
>may=
>> >be.=
>> >> >..
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"In February 2022, the Australian Transport Safety Bureau and Geoscie=
>nce=
>> > Au=
>> >> >stralia confirmed they were reviewing old data related to MH370, foll=
>owi=
>> >ng =
>> >> >the release of Godfrey's report.[15] In April, 2022 the data review "=
>con=
>> >clu=
>> >> >ded that it is highly unlikely there is an aircraft debris field with=
>in =
>> >the=
>> >> > reviewed search area."[16]"
>> >> >
>> >> >https://www.atsb.gov.au/media/news-items/2022/mh370-data-review
>> >> After reading both papers it seems evident to me that it was a pre-med=
>ita=
>> >ted suicide by the pilot.
>> >> He must have been 100% concious and in control to make ail those small=
> ad=
>> >justments.
>> >> and the endpoint corresponds to / is the same as the one he had on his=
> fl=
>> >ight simulator at home.
>> >> That is the third pilot suicide and one who does not give shit about h=
>is =
>> >passengers I read about,
>> >> one in France, one in Africa and now this.
>> >> Maybe he locked everybody else out the cockpit...
>> >>
>> >> The location has several miles uncertainty, but to look again now with=
> th=
>> >e smaller area may make sense.
>> >
>> >Not sure. But don't all suicide flights crash on the planned route? This=
> o=
>> >ne crashed because it ran out of fuel. Pilot could have programmed a dea=
>th =
>> >route and then shot himself or took a pill.
>> the route has funny things like flying in a rectangle
>> see page 49 and so on of
>> GDTAAA_WSPRnet_MH370_Analysis_Flight_Path_Report.pdf
>>
>> many other corrections too
>> Not sure you can program the MH370 auto-pilot do do all that all by itsel=
>f.
>> My drone can, but then again... You need to enter GPS locations,
>> altitude.. speed.
>
>The reality is Asian commercial pilots commit suicide like this ALL the tim=
>e. But there're strong political and economic reasons for their phony accid=
>ent investigations to come up short of making that finding.
>
>The most recent one:
>
>https://www.planeandpilotmag.com/news/the-latest/pilot-murder-suicide-likely-cause-of-china-eastern-air-disaster/
>
>When you start losing parts of the wings and other control surfaces, that k=
>ind of gives away the pilot was deliberately operating the aircraft outside=
> its envelope. Boeing was convinced of their finding based upon the data. C=
>hina was angry with it.

I was in an flight that got an engine on fire from Spain to the Netherlands many years ago.
We dumped fuel and landed safely back in Spain back where we started and people applauded the captain.
But before takeoff I noticed a pool of what looked like oil under one engine, but thought
'they must have checked that'.
Captain just walked in and never walked even around the plain to see if everything was in order.
When back home on a later flight I called the newspaper and reported it,
they then did an article on airplane maintenance.
I have been flying less since then, a boat from here to the UK does not even take
much longer, leaves on schedule too, couple of hours, I stay on deck :-)
and then by train to London.

It is sometimes hard to tell what exactly the cause of accidents is, there are good programs on German TV that go into
details about it, follow the whole search for the cause of plane crashes.
I am sure those can be downloaded too.

>MH370 was a mid-life crisis thing.

On Tuesday, 5 September 2023 at 06:17:17 UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 7:39:45 PM UTC-7, John Smiht wrote:
> > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 4:54:30 PM UTC-5, Flyguy wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 2:48:13 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > A retired aerospace engineer, Richard Godfrey, analyzed radio wave propagation data from the Weak Signal Propagation Reporter network developed by hams to pinpoint MH370's crash site to a 300 sq mi area. This sounds like a lot, but previous estimates where hundreds of thousands of sq mi.
> > > > https://www.airlineratings.com/news/mh370-new-research-paper-confirms-wsprnet-tracking-technology/
> > > > Here is the full report:
> > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkolz2mxr1rhepb/MH370%20GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%20Analysis%20Technical%20Report%2015MAR2022.pdf?dl=0
> > > > Godfrey was approached by Netflix for a documentary about MH370, but declined as they only wanted conspiratorial viewpoints. In fact, the Netflix "documentary" peddles the idea of a Russian conspiracy where MH370 was hijacked by three Russians and flown to Kazakhstan. They
> > > do this by entering the electronics bay and take control of the aircraft and lock out the pilot's controls. Obviously, Godfrey's flight path totally refutes this theory.
> > > Here is the flight path report:
> > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/k4fn8eec4z9np0z/GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%20MH370%20Analysis%20Flight%20Path%20Report.pdf
> > Captivating! I had no idea that WSPR analysees could produce such results.
> > Thanks for the link to the paper.
> > Cheers,
> > John
> This is from the Comments section of the following article:
>
> Dave Pergamon, Perth, Australia, 2 days ago
>
> I'm a radio ham and I know full well that WSPR is not technically capable of tracking aircraft movements. For starters, WSPR frequencies and power levels are far too low to detect aircraft and anyhow, WSPR radio waves travel in the ionosphere, 80 to 600 km above the Earth's surface, whereas maximum altitude commercial aircraft fly at is around 30,000 feet or about ten kilometres. No professional radio physicist or atmospheric scientist of any repute would put their names to this kind of pseudo-scientific BS.

The paper does state that the interaction with aircraft happens close to the locations where the sky wave refracts
down to the ground and reflects up again. This means that the claim quoted above must have been made by
somebody who had not actually read what they were claiming to be BS. Whether the results are accurate enough to
give a useful search area is another matter.
John
>
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12468439/MH370-flight-bombshell-claim-resting-place-revealed.html

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 8:50:22 AM UTC-5, John Walliker wrote:
> On Tuesday, 5 September 2023 at 06:17:17 UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
> > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 7:39:45 PM UTC-7, John Smiht wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 4:54:30 PM UTC-5, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 2:48:13 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > A retired aerospace engineer, Richard Godfrey, analyzed radio wave propagation data from the Weak Signal Propagation Reporter network developed by hams to pinpoint MH370's crash site to a 300 sq mi area. This sounds like a lot, but previous estimates where hundreds of thousands of sq mi.
> > > > > https://www.airlineratings.com/news/mh370-new-research-paper-confirms-wsprnet-tracking-technology/
> > > > > Here is the full report:
> > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkolz2mxr1rhepb/MH370%20GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%20Analysis%20Technical%20Report%2015MAR2022.pdf?dl=0
> > > > > Godfrey was approached by Netflix for a documentary about MH370, but declined as they only wanted conspiratorial viewpoints. In fact, the Netflix "documentary" peddles the idea of a Russian conspiracy where MH370 was hijacked by three Russians and flown to Kazakhstan. They
> > > > do this by entering the electronics bay and take control of the aircraft and lock out the pilot's controls. Obviously, Godfrey's flight path totally refutes this theory.
> > > > Here is the flight path report:
> > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/k4fn8eec4z9np0z/GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%20MH370%20Analysis%20Flight%20Path%20Report.pdf
> > > Captivating! I had no idea that WSPR analysees could produce such results.
> > > Thanks for the link to the paper.
> > > Cheers,
> > > John
> > This is from the Comments section of the following article:
> >
> > Dave Pergamon, Perth, Australia, 2 days ago
> >
> > I'm a radio ham and I know full well that WSPR is not technically capable of tracking aircraft movements. For starters, WSPR frequencies and power levels are far too low to detect aircraft and anyhow, WSPR radio waves travel in the ionosphere, 80 to 600 km above the Earth's surface, whereas maximum altitude commercial aircraft fly at is around 30,000 feet or about ten kilometres. No professional radio physicist or atmospheric scientist of any repute would put their names to this kind of pseudo-scientific BS.
> The paper does state that the interaction with aircraft happens close to the locations where the sky wave refracts
> down to the ground and reflects up again. This means that the claim quoted above must have been made by
> somebody who had not actually read what they were claiming to be BS. Whether the results are accurate enough to
> give a useful search area is another matter.
> John
> >
> > https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12468439/MH370-flight-bombshell-claim-resting-place-revealed.html

Yes, and those WSPR stations are all over the globe. In addition, I think I remember watching something on TV or YT about how the Russians or somebody used the disturbance of radio waves as a passive "radar" system. Actually, ISTR that it allowed the detection of a US stealth plane which was shot down.
Another John

On a sunny day (Tue, 5 Sep 2023 09:15:50 -0700 (PDT)) it happened John Smiht
<utube.jocjo@xoxy.net> wrote in
<9beed550-38ba-425a-9788-548c77eddf7an@googlegroups.com>:

>On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 8:50:22 AM UTC-5, John Walliker wr=
>ote:
>> On Tuesday, 5 September 2023 at 06:17:17 UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
>> > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 7:39:45 PM UTC-7, John Smiht wr=
>ote:
>> > > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 4:54:30 PM UTC-5, Flyguy wrot=
>e:
>> > > > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 2:48:13 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wr=
>ote:
>> > > > > A retired aerospace engineer, Richard Godfrey, analyzed radio wav=
>e propagation data from the Weak Signal Propagation Reporter network develo=
>ped by hams to pinpoint MH370's crash site to a 300 sq mi area. This sounds=
> like a lot, but previous estimates where hundreds of thousands of sq mi.=
>
>> > > > > https://www.airlineratings.com/news/mh370-new-research-paper-conf=
>irms-wsprnet-tracking-technology/
>> > > > > Here is the full report:
>> > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkolz2mxr1rhepb/MH370%20GDTAAA%20WSPRne=
>t%20Analysis%20Technical%20Report%2015MAR2022.pdf?dl=0
>> > > > > Godfrey was approached by Netflix for a documentary about MH370, =
>but declined as they only wanted conspiratorial viewpoints. In fact, the Ne=
>tflix "documentary" peddles the idea of a Russian conspiracy where MH370 wa=
>s hijacked by three Russians and flown to Kazakhstan. They
>> > > > do this by entering the electronics bay and take control of the air=
>craft and lock out the pilot's controls. Obviously, Godfrey's flight path t=
>otally refutes this theory.
>> > > > Here is the flight path report:
>> > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/k4fn8eec4z9np0z/GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%20MH370%=
>20Analysis%20Flight%20Path%20Report.pdf
>> > > Captivating! I had no idea that WSPR analysees could produce such res=
>ults.
>> > > Thanks for the link to the paper.
>> > > Cheers,
>> > > John
>> > This is from the Comments section of the following article:
>> >
>> > Dave Pergamon, Perth, Australia, 2 days ago
>> >
>> > I'm a radio ham and I know full well that WSPR is not technically capab=
>le of tracking aircraft movements. For starters, WSPR frequencies and power=
> levels are far too low to detect aircraft and anyhow, WSPR radio waves tra=
>vel in the ionosphere, 80 to 600 km above the Earth's surface, whereas maxi=
>mum altitude commercial aircraft fly at is around 30,000 feet or about ten =
>kilometres. No professional radio physicist or atmospheric scientist of any=
> repute would put their names to this kind of pseudo-scientific BS.
>> The paper does state that the interaction with aircraft happens close to =
>the locations where the sky wave refracts
>> down to the ground and reflects up again. This means that the claim quote=
>d above must have been made by
>> somebody who had not actually read what they were claiming to be BS. Whet=
>her the results are accurate enough to
>> give a useful search area is another matter.
>> John
>> >
>> > https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12468439/MH370-flight-bombshel=
>l-claim-resting-place-revealed.html
>
>
>Yes, and those WSPR stations are all over the globe. In addition, I think I=
> remember watching something on TV or YT about how the Russians or somebody=
> used the disturbance of radio waves as a passive "radar" system. Actually,=
> ISTR that it allowed the detection of a US stealth plane which was shot do=
>wn.
>Another John

Passive radar (using broadcast stations) has been used.
https://www.rtl-sdr.com/tag/passive-radar/
scroll down to 'passive radar for RTL-SDRs'
all open source, using RTL-SDR USB sticks
https://github.com/DanielKami
Plenty of RTL-SDR sticks here, have not tried it yet..

Them F35s come over so low and are so noisy here no need for radar :-)
https://panteltje.nl/pub/first_F35_pilot_IXIMG_0225.JPG

This one is more quiet and green and has lower radar signature:
https://panteltje.nl/pub/a_better_f35.JPG