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* Re: Plasma Cosmology - No Big Bang, no redshift. Pseudo-static UniverseRichard Hertz
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 |`* Re: Plasma Cosmology - No Big Bang, no redshift. Pseudo-static UniversePaul Alsing
 | `* Re: Plasma Cosmology - No Big Bang, no redshift. Pseudo-static UniverseLaurence Clark Crossen
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 `* Re: Plasma Cosmology - No Big Bang, no redshift. Pseudo-static UniverseLaurence Clark Crossen
  `* Re: Plasma Cosmology - No Big Bang, no redshift. Pseudo-static UniversePaul Alsing
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Subject: Re: Plasma Cosmology - No Big Bang, no redshift. Pseudo-static Universe
From: hertz...@gmail.com (Richard Hertz)
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 by: Richard Hertz - Sun, 26 Nov 2023 16:03 UTC

On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 2:53:11 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
> https://www.lppfusion.com/science/cosmic-connection/plasma-cosmology/
>
> EXCERPT
>
> In May, 2014, Lerner and colleagues Renato Falomo and Riccardo Scarpa published new evidence indicating that the universe is not in fact expanding. “Questions and Answers on The Science of Surface Brightness” gives more technical details on this study. Here are biographical sketches of the research team members, and background on “The Growing Case against the Big Bang Theory”.
>
> Lerner elaborated this research in a 2018 paper published in the leading journal Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society. The new study, titled “Observations contradict galaxy size and surface brightness predictions that are based on the expanding universe hypothesis”, finds that none of the published expanding-universe predictions of galaxy-size growth fit the actual data. All of the proposed physical mechanisms for galaxy growth, such as galaxy mergers, also contradict observations. However, the paper finds that the data are closely fit by the contrary hypothesis that the universe is not expanding, and that the redshift of light is caused by some other, currently unknown, process.
>
> In 2020, Lerner presented to the American Astronomical Society meeting a new study showing that bedrock predictions of the Big Bang are contradicted by observations. The study looks at the origin and abundance of three key light elements that are hypothesized to have been created by the Big Bang. Precise amounts of helium, deuterium and lithium are predicted to have been formed by fusion reactions in the dense, extremely hot initial instants of the Big Bang.
>
> For both lithium and helium, the study shows, observations of abundances in old stars now differ from predictions by more than a dozen standard deviations and the gap has been widening at an accelerating pace. The oldest stars have less than half the helium and less than one tenth the lithium than that predicted by Big Bang Nucleosynthesis theory. The lowest lithium levels observed are less than 1% that predicted by the theory. Indeed, the evidence is consistent with no helium or lithium having been formed before the first stars in our galaxy.
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Summary: All pseudo-theories based on the BBT and Hubble's red shifting
> fail to explain stellar and galactic composition. Negationism about the role
> of electrical currents and huge magnetic phenomena at galactic level force
> the invention of "dark matter and energy" to adapt 1915 GR to the failed
> interpretation of galaxy rotation curves.
>
> Current establishment backed theories can't explain the existence of quasars
> or the "calculated" existence of less than 6% of baryonic matter in the
> composition of the universe.
>
> Plasma cosmology has been applied to simulations in supercomputers
> without the need of inventions like dark matter/energy filling the remaining
> 95% structure of the "expanding universe" and the failed theories of
> galaxies rotation.
>
> BBT and GR are just infantile fairy tales.

100 years of ignorance, lies and deception.

Redshift is not due to Doppler effect. Universe is infinite and quasi-static.

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Subject: Re: Plasma Cosmology - No Big Bang, no redshift. Pseudo-static Universe
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 by: Laurence Clark Cross - Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:27 UTC

On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 8:03:42 AM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 2:53:11 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > https://www.lppfusion.com/science/cosmic-connection/plasma-cosmology/
> >
> > EXCERPT
> >
> > In May, 2014, Lerner and colleagues Renato Falomo and Riccardo Scarpa published new evidence indicating that the universe is not in fact expanding.. “Questions and Answers on The Science of Surface Brightness” gives more technical details on this study. Here are biographical sketches of the research team members, and background on “The Growing Case against the Big Bang Theory”.
> >
> > Lerner elaborated this research in a 2018 paper published in the leading journal Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society. The new study, titled “Observations contradict galaxy size and surface brightness predictions that are based on the expanding universe hypothesis”, finds that none of the published expanding-universe predictions of galaxy-size growth fit the actual data. All of the proposed physical mechanisms for galaxy growth, such as galaxy mergers, also contradict observations. However, the paper finds that the data are closely fit by the contrary hypothesis that the universe is not expanding, and that the redshift of light is caused by some other, currently unknown, process.
> >
> > In 2020, Lerner presented to the American Astronomical Society meeting a new study showing that bedrock predictions of the Big Bang are contradicted by observations. The study looks at the origin and abundance of three key light elements that are hypothesized to have been created by the Big Bang.. Precise amounts of helium, deuterium and lithium are predicted to have been formed by fusion reactions in the dense, extremely hot initial instants of the Big Bang.
> >
> > For both lithium and helium, the study shows, observations of abundances in old stars now differ from predictions by more than a dozen standard deviations and the gap has been widening at an accelerating pace. The oldest stars have less than half the helium and less than one tenth the lithium than that predicted by Big Bang Nucleosynthesis theory. The lowest lithium levels observed are less than 1% that predicted by the theory. Indeed, the evidence is consistent with no helium or lithium having been formed before the first stars in our galaxy.
> > --------------------------------------------
> >
> > Summary: All pseudo-theories based on the BBT and Hubble's red shifting
> > fail to explain stellar and galactic composition. Negationism about the role
> > of electrical currents and huge magnetic phenomena at galactic level force
> > the invention of "dark matter and energy" to adapt 1915 GR to the failed
> > interpretation of galaxy rotation curves.
> >
> > Current establishment backed theories can't explain the existence of quasars
> > or the "calculated" existence of less than 6% of baryonic matter in the
> > composition of the universe.
> >
> > Plasma cosmology has been applied to simulations in supercomputers
> > without the need of inventions like dark matter/energy filling the remaining
> > 95% structure of the "expanding universe" and the failed theories of
> > galaxies rotation.
> >
> > BBT and GR are just infantile fairy tales.
> 100 years of ignorance, lies and deception.
>
> Redshift is not due to Doppler effect. Universe is infinite and quasi-static.
Mei Xiaochun explains the Newtonian expanding universe and the fact that "Abstract The motion equation of standard cosmology, the Friedmann equation, is based on the Einstein’s
equations of gravitational fields. However, British physicist E. A. Milne pointed in 1943 that the same
equation could be deduced simply based on the Newtonian theory of gravity. It means that the Friedmann
equation, in stead of the motion equation of relativity, is actually the Newtonian one in essence." His reference: E. A. Milne, A Newtonian Expanding Universe, General Relativity and Gravitation, Springer ,
Netherlands, ,32, 9 (2000).

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 by: Richard Hertz - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 04:05 UTC

On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 1:03:42 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:

> 100 years of ignorance, lies and deception.
>
> Redshift is not due to Doppler effect. Universe is infinite and quasi-static.

Observe the ignorance, lies and deception planted by professional BBT/GR supporters:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Nearsc.gif

This is a "map" (fraudulent map) of galaxies distribution in superclusters of galaxies (filaments) with Earth at the center (in Virgo Supercluster),
in a radius of 500 million light years.

SOURCE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_filament

In this article, there are maps of large-scale distribution up to a radius of 1,000 million light years.

PROBLEMS:

1) The Universe is ANYTHING but isotropic. There are huge voids in space, occupying more than 95% of the volume.
2) The maps were built ONLY with the information of the z value and relative luminosity (for location).
3) There is ZERO INFORMATION about the true velocity vector, delayed in time for millions of years. Galaxies could be anywhere NOW.
4) There is ZERO UNDERSTANDING about the HUGE magnetic and electric forces that produce intergalactic highways through which PLASMA flows,
causing the creation of ULTRA-ENERGETIC RADIATION that accelerate particles, a portion of them bombarding Earth. Galaxies interchange matter
through these highways.
5) There are more than a dozen projects studying the structure of the Universe since 1990. All of them OBEY 1922 Friedmann stupid theories, derived
from GR, and NONE OF THEM work without introducing the idiocy of dark matter/energy. More than 30,000 galaxies have been "cataloged".

https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/research/topic/large-scale-structure

6) There is no single proof of the existence of the BB, besides some fancy mathematics. CMR is not a proof of the BB, nor has been served as evidence
of a bounded Universe. Any "calculation" of its distance (as the frontier of the Universe) is only that: CALCULATIONS.

7) Humans, in spite of their intellectual arrogance, don't understand and WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND what the Universe is.

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 by: Laurence Clark Cross - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 04:45 UTC

On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 8:05:51 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 1:03:42 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
>
> > 100 years of ignorance, lies and deception.
> >
> > Redshift is not due to Doppler effect. Universe is infinite and quasi-static.
> Observe the ignorance, lies and deception planted by professional BBT/GR supporters:
>
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Nearsc.gif
>
> This is a "map" (fraudulent map) of galaxies distribution in superclusters of galaxies (filaments) with Earth at the center (in Virgo Supercluster),
> in a radius of 500 million light years.
>
> SOURCE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_filament
>
> In this article, there are maps of large-scale distribution up to a radius of 1,000 million light years.
>
> PROBLEMS:
>
> 1) The Universe is ANYTHING but isotropic. There are huge voids in space, occupying more than 95% of the volume.
> 2) The maps were built ONLY with the information of the z value and relative luminosity (for location).
> 3) There is ZERO INFORMATION about the true velocity vector, delayed in time for millions of years. Galaxies could be anywhere NOW.
> 4) There is ZERO UNDERSTANDING about the HUGE magnetic and electric forces that produce intergalactic highways through which PLASMA flows,
> causing the creation of ULTRA-ENERGETIC RADIATION that accelerate particles, a portion of them bombarding Earth. Galaxies interchange matter
> through these highways.
> 5) There are more than a dozen projects studying the structure of the Universe since 1990. All of them OBEY 1922 Friedmann stupid theories, derived
> from GR, and NONE OF THEM work without introducing the idiocy of dark matter/energy. More than 30,000 galaxies have been "cataloged".
>
> https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/research/topic/large-scale-structure
>
> 6) There is no single proof of the existence of the BB, besides some fancy mathematics. CMR is not a proof of the BB, nor has been served as evidence
> of a bounded Universe. Any "calculation" of its distance (as the frontier of the Universe) is only that: CALCULATIONS.
>
> 7) Humans, in spite of their intellectual arrogance, don't understand and WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND what the Universe is.
Anton Petrov has a recent video I like: "Origins Of Fast Moving Runaway Stars Escaping The Galaxy" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wk7h_GplQU The runaway stars are interpreted as having escape velocity and being headed out of the galaxy. In my opinion, the galaxy has much more mass, so they have not reached escape velocity.

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 by: Paul Alsing - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 05:08 UTC

On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 8:45:15 PM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:

> Anton Petrov has a recent video I like: "Origins Of Fast Moving Runaway Stars Escaping The Galaxy" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wk7h_GplQU The runaway stars are interpreted as having escape velocity and being headed out of the galaxy. In my opinion, the galaxy has much more mass, so they have not reached escape velocity.

What possible value does *your* opinion have? Tell us, O clueless one, approximately what is the escape velocity for our galaxy? Exactly what information do you need to calculate it? Show us your math that supports your claim that our galaxy is too massive to ever allow a star to escape?

This is a trivial math problem, providing that you have realistic numbers for the variables involved. Google is your friend. Your opinion in this case is worthless.

Hint: there are literally dozens of hypervelocity stars that are known to exist, all of which will someday leave our Milky Way.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+milky+way+stars+have+enough+velocity+to+excape+it%3F&rlz=1C1RXQR_enUS1084US1085&oq=how+many+milky+way+stars+have+enough+velocity+to+excape+it%3F&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIJCAEQIRgKGKABMgkIAhAhGAoYoAEyCQgDECEYChigAdIBCTMzOTkwajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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 by: Laurence Clark Cross - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 05:10 UTC

On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 9:08:31 PM UTC-8, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 8:45:15 PM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>
> > Anton Petrov has a recent video I like: "Origins Of Fast Moving Runaway Stars Escaping The Galaxy" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wk7h_GplQU The runaway stars are interpreted as having escape velocity and being headed out of the galaxy. In my opinion, the galaxy has much more mass, so they have not reached escape velocity.
> What possible value does *your* opinion have? Tell us, O clueless one, approximately what is the escape velocity for our galaxy? Exactly what information do you need to calculate it? Show us your math that supports your claim that our galaxy is too massive to ever allow a star to escape?
>
> This is a trivial math problem, providing that you have realistic numbers for the variables involved. Google is your friend. Your opinion in this case is worthless.
>
> Hint: there are literally dozens of hypervelocity stars that are known to exist, all of which will someday leave our Milky Way.
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+milky+way+stars+have+enough+velocity+to+excape+it%3F&rlz=1C1RXQR_enUS1084US1085&oq=how+many+milky+way+stars+have+enough+velocity+to+excape+it%3F&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIJCAEQIRgKGKABMgkIAhAhGAoYoAEyCQgDECEYChigAdIBCTMzOTkwajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Are you done chest beating?

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 by: Laurence Clark Cross - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 05:13 UTC

On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 8:05:51 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 1:03:42 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
>
> > 100 years of ignorance, lies and deception.
> >
> > Redshift is not due to Doppler effect. Universe is infinite and quasi-static.
> Observe the ignorance, lies and deception planted by professional BBT/GR supporters:
>
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Nearsc.gif
>
> This is a "map" (fraudulent map) of galaxies distribution in superclusters of galaxies (filaments) with Earth at the center (in Virgo Supercluster),
> in a radius of 500 million light years.
>
> SOURCE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_filament
>
> In this article, there are maps of large-scale distribution up to a radius of 1,000 million light years.
>
> PROBLEMS:
>
> 1) The Universe is ANYTHING but isotropic. There are huge voids in space, occupying more than 95% of the volume.
> 2) The maps were built ONLY with the information of the z value and relative luminosity (for location).
> 3) There is ZERO INFORMATION about the true velocity vector, delayed in time for millions of years. Galaxies could be anywhere NOW.
> 4) There is ZERO UNDERSTANDING about the HUGE magnetic and electric forces that produce intergalactic highways through which PLASMA flows,
> causing the creation of ULTRA-ENERGETIC RADIATION that accelerate particles, a portion of them bombarding Earth. Galaxies interchange matter
> through these highways.
> 5) There are more than a dozen projects studying the structure of the Universe since 1990. All of them OBEY 1922 Friedmann stupid theories, derived
> from GR, and NONE OF THEM work without introducing the idiocy of dark matter/energy. More than 30,000 galaxies have been "cataloged".
>
> https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/research/topic/large-scale-structure
>
> 6) There is no single proof of the existence of the BB, besides some fancy mathematics. CMR is not a proof of the BB, nor has been served as evidence
> of a bounded Universe. Any "calculation" of its distance (as the frontier of the Universe) is only that: CALCULATIONS.
>
> 7) Humans, in spite of their intellectual arrogance, don't understand and WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND what the Universe is.
The consensus recognizes the galactic rotation curve requires there to be ten times more mass in the galaxy than they have found in the stars. Is their calculation of escape velocity based on the amount of mass known in the stars or on the amount required by the rotation curve?

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 by: Paul Alsing - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 06:01 UTC

On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 9:10:46 PM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 9:08:31 PM UTC-8, Paul Alsing wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 8:45:15 PM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> >
> > > Anton Petrov has a recent video I like: "Origins Of Fast Moving Runaway Stars Escaping The Galaxy" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wk7h_GplQU The runaway stars are interpreted as having escape velocity and being headed out of the galaxy. In my opinion, the galaxy has much more mass, so they have not reached escape velocity.
> > What possible value does *your* opinion have? Tell us, O clueless one, approximately what is the escape velocity for our galaxy? Exactly what information do you need to calculate it? Show us your math that supports your claim that our galaxy is too massive to ever allow a star to escape?
> >
> > This is a trivial math problem, providing that you have realistic numbers for the variables involved. Google is your friend. Your opinion in this case is worthless.
> >
> > Hint: there are literally dozens of hypervelocity stars that are known to exist, all of which will someday leave our Milky Way.
> >
> > https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+milky+way+stars+have+enough+velocity+to+excape+it%3F&rlz=1C1RXQR_enUS1084US1085&oq=how+many+milky+way+stars+have+enough+velocity+to+excape+it%3F&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIJCAEQIRgKGKABMgkIAhAhGAoYoAEyCQgDECEYChigAdIBCTMzOTkwajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

> Are you done chest beating?

Are you done making $hit up, without a lick of evidence, as you go along? You remain very ignorant of the subject matter. You need to read several textbooks because you have nothing to offer here.

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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 07:50 UTC

On Monday, 27 November 2023 at 07:01:46 UTC+1, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 9:10:46 PM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 9:08:31 PM UTC-8, Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 8:45:15 PM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> > >
> > > > Anton Petrov has a recent video I like: "Origins Of Fast Moving Runaway Stars Escaping The Galaxy" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wk7h_GplQU The runaway stars are interpreted as having escape velocity and being headed out of the galaxy. In my opinion, the galaxy has much more mass, so they have not reached escape velocity.
> > > What possible value does *your* opinion have? Tell us, O clueless one, approximately what is the escape velocity for our galaxy? Exactly what information do you need to calculate it? Show us your math that supports your claim that our galaxy is too massive to ever allow a star to escape?
> > >
> > > This is a trivial math problem, providing that you have realistic numbers for the variables involved. Google is your friend. Your opinion in this case is worthless.
> > >
> > > Hint: there are literally dozens of hypervelocity stars that are known to exist, all of which will someday leave our Milky Way.
> > >
> > > https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+milky+way+stars+have+enough+velocity+to+excape+it%3F&rlz=1C1RXQR_enUS1084US1085&oq=how+many+milky+way+stars+have+enough+velocity+to+excape+it%3F&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIJCAEQIRgKGKABMgkIAhAhGAoYoAEyCQgDECEYChigAdIBCTMzOTkwajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
>
> > Are you done chest beating?
> Are you done making $hit up, without a lick of evidence, as you go along?

Al, poor trash, come on. The evidence is only
making you spitting more fiercely.

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 by: Laurence Clark Cross - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:45 UTC

On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 8:05:51 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 1:03:42 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
>
> > 100 years of ignorance, lies and deception.
> >
> > Redshift is not due to Doppler effect. Universe is infinite and quasi-static.
> Observe the ignorance, lies and deception planted by professional BBT/GR supporters:
>
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Nearsc.gif
>
> This is a "map" (fraudulent map) of galaxies distribution in superclusters of galaxies (filaments) with Earth at the center (in Virgo Supercluster),
> in a radius of 500 million light years.
>
> SOURCE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_filament
>
> In this article, there are maps of large-scale distribution up to a radius of 1,000 million light years.
>
> PROBLEMS:
>
> 1) The Universe is ANYTHING but isotropic. There are huge voids in space, occupying more than 95% of the volume.
> 2) The maps were built ONLY with the information of the z value and relative luminosity (for location).
> 3) There is ZERO INFORMATION about the true velocity vector, delayed in time for millions of years. Galaxies could be anywhere NOW.
> 4) There is ZERO UNDERSTANDING about the HUGE magnetic and electric forces that produce intergalactic highways through which PLASMA flows,
> causing the creation of ULTRA-ENERGETIC RADIATION that accelerate particles, a portion of them bombarding Earth. Galaxies interchange matter
> through these highways.
> 5) There are more than a dozen projects studying the structure of the Universe since 1990. All of them OBEY 1922 Friedmann stupid theories, derived
> from GR, and NONE OF THEM work without introducing the idiocy of dark matter/energy. More than 30,000 galaxies have been "cataloged".
>
> https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/research/topic/large-scale-structure
>
> 6) There is no single proof of the existence of the BB, besides some fancy mathematics. CMR is not a proof of the BB, nor has been served as evidence
> of a bounded Universe. Any "calculation" of its distance (as the frontier of the Universe) is only that: CALCULATIONS.
>
> 7) Humans, in spite of their intellectual arrogance, don't understand and WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND what the Universe is.
To answer my own question, the escape velocity that includes the 10x mass as determined by the galactic rotation curve, is 484 km/sec. [Substructure at High-Speed II: The Local Escape Velocity and Milky Way Mass with Gaia DR2]. In my opinion, the mass of the galaxy is many times that, requiring a much higher escape velocity.

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On Monday, November 27, 2023 at 1:46:00 PM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:

> To answer my own question, the escape velocity that includes the 10x mass as determined by the galactic rotation curve, is 484 km/sec. [Substructure at High-Speed II: The Local Escape Velocity and Milky Way Mass with Gaia DR2]. In my opinion, the mass of the galaxy is many times that, requiring a much higher escape velocity.

So I guess this limits the numbers of stars capable of leaving the galaxy to about 10 million...

https://www.livescience.com/space/astronomy/scientists-discover-the-fastest-stars-ever-seen-in-the-milky-way#:~:text=Astronomers%20have%20detected%20the%20fastest,(8%2C226%2C967%20kilometers%20per%20hour).

"If a significant fraction of Type Ia supernovae produce a D6 star, the galaxy has likely launched more than 10 million of them into intergalactic space," the researchers wrote in the study. "An interesting corollary is that there should be large numbers of faint, nearby D6 stars launched from galaxies all throughout the local volume passing through the solar neighborhood."

You remain ignorant of the subject matter and you keep proving it over and over again!

Your *opinion* remains worthless. Read a dang textbook!

Evidence rules... got any?

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 by: Laurence Clark Cross - Tue, 28 Nov 2023 04:05 UTC

On Monday, November 27, 2023 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-8, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Monday, November 27, 2023 at 1:46:00 PM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>
> > To answer my own question, the escape velocity that includes the 10x mass as determined by the galactic rotation curve, is 484 km/sec. [Substructure at High-Speed II: The Local Escape Velocity and Milky Way Mass with Gaia DR2]. In my opinion, the mass of the galaxy is many times that, requiring a much higher escape velocity.
> So I guess this limits the numbers of stars capable of leaving the galaxy to about 10 million...
>
> https://www.livescience.com/space/astronomy/scientists-discover-the-fastest-stars-ever-seen-in-the-milky-way#:~:text=Astronomers%20have%20detected%20the%20fastest,(8%2C226%2C967%20kilometers%20per%20hour).
>
> "If a significant fraction of Type Ia supernovae produce a D6 star, the galaxy has likely launched more than 10 million of them into intergalactic space," the researchers wrote in the study. "An interesting corollary is that there should be large numbers of faint, nearby D6 stars launched from galaxies all throughout the local volume passing through the solar neighborhood."
>
> You remain ignorant of the subject matter and you keep proving it over and over again!
>
> Your *opinion* remains worthless. Read a dang textbook!
>
> Evidence rules... got any?
Poor Paul, you didn't understand what I said. I said the galaxy must have many times more mass than what allows these millions of stars to escape. This is just more evidence the galaxy has yet more mass. It is very improbable that any stars are pinging out of the galaxy. They haven't been able to come up with a very probable mechanism.

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 by: Laurence Clark Cross - Tue, 28 Nov 2023 04:06 UTC

On Monday, November 27, 2023 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-8, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Monday, November 27, 2023 at 1:46:00 PM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>
> > To answer my own question, the escape velocity that includes the 10x mass as determined by the galactic rotation curve, is 484 km/sec. [Substructure at High-Speed II: The Local Escape Velocity and Milky Way Mass with Gaia DR2]. In my opinion, the mass of the galaxy is many times that, requiring a much higher escape velocity.
> So I guess this limits the numbers of stars capable of leaving the galaxy to about 10 million...
>
> https://www.livescience.com/space/astronomy/scientists-discover-the-fastest-stars-ever-seen-in-the-milky-way#:~:text=Astronomers%20have%20detected%20the%20fastest,(8%2C226%2C967%20kilometers%20per%20hour).
>
> "If a significant fraction of Type Ia supernovae produce a D6 star, the galaxy has likely launched more than 10 million of them into intergalactic space," the researchers wrote in the study. "An interesting corollary is that there should be large numbers of faint, nearby D6 stars launched from galaxies all throughout the local volume passing through the solar neighborhood."
>
> You remain ignorant of the subject matter and you keep proving it over and over again!
>
> Your *opinion* remains worthless. Read a dang textbook!
>
> Evidence rules... got any?
But thank you for the link, As I said, it provides more evidence for me.

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mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Science says it takes eight solar masses for stars that supernova paul.
> The Sun came after its prior form that did supernova.
> So where is the other 7 masses that should be in the solar system?

sucks in the Earth and everything. Built_in 𝘁𝗵𝗲_𝗵𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗼𝗿𝘆 of the future.
Similarly, there is no West, but countries stolen and driven by the
𝗸𝗵𝗮𝘇𝗮𝗿_𝗴𝗼𝘆𝘀 of say, ukurina. That's 𝘄𝗵𝗮𝘁_𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆_𝗱𝗼 with ukurina right now, did
with america and fucking europe, and want to do with Russia. Splitting it
in small pieces, 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆_𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗹_"𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗻𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗲𝘀", and steal their resources 𝗪𝗜𝗧𝗛
capitalism.

𝗧𝗵𝗲_𝗪𝗲𝘀𝘁_𝗼𝗽𝗽𝗼𝘀𝗲𝘀_𝗮𝗹𝗹_𝘁𝗵𝗲_𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲𝘀_𝗼𝗳_𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮_–_𝗣𝘂𝘁𝗶𝗻
Russophobia, racism and other forms of neo-Nazism have become the official
ideology of Western elites, the president has claimed
https://r%74.com/russia/588140-putin-west-racism/

Vladimir Putin once again is correct in his analysis...We the PEOPLE are
𝗻𝗼𝘁_𝗮𝗻𝘁𝗶_𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻, but our so called 𝗸𝗵𝗮𝘇𝗮𝗿_𝗴𝗼𝘆_"𝗲𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗲𝘀" are. No matter, in the
end Russia will prevail against her enemies.

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On Monday, November 27, 2023 at 7:14:14 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, November 27, 2023 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-8, Paul Alsing wrote:
> > On Monday, November 27, 2023 at 1:46:00 PM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> >
> > > To answer my own question, the escape velocity that includes the 10x mass as determined by the galactic rotation curve, is 484 km/sec. [Substructure at High-Speed II: The Local Escape Velocity and Milky Way Mass with Gaia DR2]. In my opinion, the mass of the galaxy is many times that, requiring a much higher escape velocity.
> > So I guess this limits the numbers of stars capable of leaving the galaxy to about 10 million...
> >
> > https://www.livescience.com/space/astronomy/scientists-discover-the-fastest-stars-ever-seen-in-the-milky-way#:~:text=Astronomers%20have%20detected%20the%20fastest,(8%2C226%2C967%20kilometers%20per%20hour).
> >
> > "If a significant fraction of Type Ia supernovae produce a D6 star, the galaxy has likely launched more than 10 million of them into intergalactic space," the researchers wrote in the study. "An interesting corollary is that there should be large numbers of faint, nearby D6 stars launched from galaxies all throughout the local volume passing through the solar neighborhood."
> >
> > You remain ignorant of the subject matter and you keep proving it over and over again!
> >
> > Your *opinion* remains worthless. Read a dang textbook!
> >
> > Evidence rules... got any?

> Science says it takes eight solar masses for stars that supernova paul.
> The Sun came after its prior form that did supernova.
> So where is the other 7 masses that should be in the solar system?

Science does indeed say that stars of about 8 solar masses can go supernova, Mitch... but, BY DEFINITION, our sun is only one solar mass, so it almost certainly will become a planetary nebula someday far in the future, like about 5 billion years or so... and you would already know this if you had only read a dang textbook!

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 by: Physfitfreak - Wed, 29 Nov 2023 00:31 UTC

On 11/28/2023 10:08 AM, Jan Yuzhilin Bavtrukevitch wrote:
> Vladimir Putin once again is correct in his analysis...We the PEOPLE are
> 𝗻𝗼𝘁_𝗮𝗻𝘁𝗶_𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻, but our so called 𝗸𝗵𝗮𝘇𝗮𝗿_𝗴𝗼𝘆_"𝗲𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗲𝘀" are. No matter, in the
> end Russia will prevail against her enemies.

Russians learn too slowly. And on top of that, they get carried away
even by Hollywood. Let alone literature, art, and science. That's why
they fell for the communism.

And they drink too much. Another consequence of learning too slowly.

And presently they really think "the West" is some shit! Ignorant, with
their thinking head inside their eyeballs. The prescription to find
things out too late.

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stupid fuck Physfitfreak wrote:

> On 11/28/2023 10:08 AM, Jan Yuzhilin Bavtrukevitch wrote:
>> Vladimir Putin once again is correct in his analysis...We the PEOPLE
>> are 𝗻𝗼𝘁_𝗮𝗻𝘁𝗶_𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻, but our so called 𝗸𝗵𝗮𝘇𝗮𝗿_𝗴𝗼𝘆_"𝗲𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗲𝘀" are. No
>> matter, in the end Russia will prevail against her enemies.
>
> Russians learn too slowly. And on top of that, they get carried away
> even by Hollywood. Let alone literature, art, and science. That's why
> they fell for the communism.

watch this, fucking stoopid. You know no physics, math, relativity,
computers, operating systems, capitalism, communism etc. Russia just won a
big war against terrorist nato, us, eu and uk all together.

𝗧𝗵𝗲_𝗦𝗼𝘃𝗶𝗲𝘁_𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗲_𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗴𝗿𝗮𝗺_𝗽𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗱_𝗺𝗮𝗻𝘆_𝗮𝘀𝗽𝗲𝗰𝘁𝘀_𝗼𝗳_𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗲_𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗹𝗼𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻:

1957: First intercontinental ballistic missile and orbital launch
vehicle, the R-7 Semyorka.
1957: First satellite, Sputnik 1.
1957: First animal in Earth orbit, the dog Laika on Sputnik 2.
1959: First rocket ignition in Earth orbit, first man-made object to
escape Earth's gravity, Luna 1.
1959: First data communications, or telemetry, to and from outer
space, Luna 1.
1959: First man-made object to pass near the Moon, first man-made
object in Heliocentric orbit, Luna 1.
1959: First probe to impact the Moon, Luna 2.
1959: First images of the Moon's far side, Luna 3.
1960: First animals to safely return from Earth orbit, the dogs Belka
and Strelka on Sputnik 5.
1961: First probe launched to Venus, Venera 1.
1961: First person in space (International definition) and in Earth
orbit, Yuri Gagarin on Vostok 1, Vostok program.
1961: First person to spend over 24 hours in space Gherman Titov,
Vostok 2 (also first person to sleep in space).
1962: First dual crewed spaceflight, Vostok 3 and Vostok 4.
1962: First probe launched to Mars, Mars 1.
1963: First woman in space, Valentina Tereshkova, Vostok 6.
1964: First multi-person crew (3), Voskhod 1.
1965: First extra-vehicular activity (EVA), by Alexsei Leonov,[80]
Voskhod 2.
1965: First radio telescope in space, Zond 3.
1965: First probe to hit another planet of the Solar System (Venus),
Venera 3.
1966: First probe to make a soft landing on and transmit from the
surface of the Moon, Luna 9.
1966: First probe in lunar orbit, Luna 10.
1966: first image of the whole Earth disk, Molniya 1.[81]
1967: First uncrewed rendezvous and docking, Cosmos 186/Cosmos 188.
1968: First living beings to reach the Moon (circumlunar flights) and
return unharmed to Earth, Russian tortoises and other lifeforms on Zond 5.
1969: First docking between two crewed craft in Earth orbit and
exchange of crews, Soyuz 4 and Soyuz 5.
1970: First soil samples automatically extracted and returned to Earth
from another celestial body, Luna 16.
1970: First robotic space rover, Lunokhod 1 on the Moon.
1970: First full interplanetary travel with a soft landing and useful
data transmission. Data received from the surface of another planet of the
Solar System (Venus), Venera 7
1971: First space station, Salyut 1.
1971: First probe to impact the surface of Mars, Mars 2.
1971: First probe to land on Mars, Mars 3.
1971: First armed space station, Almaz.
1975: First probe to orbit Venus, to make a soft landing on Venus,
first photos from the surface of Venus, Venera 9.
1980: First Asian person in space, Vietnamese Cosmonaut Pham Tuan on
Soyuz 37; and First Latin American, Cuban and person with African ancestry
in space, Arnaldo Tamayo Méndez on Soyuz 38
1984: First Indian Astronaut in space, Rakesh Sharma on Soyuz T-11
(Salyut-7 space station).
1984: First woman to walk in space, Svetlana Savitskaya (Salyut 7
space station).
1986: First crew to visit two separate space stations (Mir and Salyut
7).
1986: First probes to deploy robotic balloons into Venus atmosphere
and to return pictures of a comet during close flyby Vega 1, Vega 2.
1986: First permanently crewed space station, Mir, 1986–2001, with a
permanent presence on board (1989–1999).
1987: First crew to spend over one year in space, Vladimir Titov and
Musa Manarov on board of Soyuz TM-4 – Mir.
1988: First fully automated flight of a spaceplane (Buran).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_space_program

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 by: Physfitfreak - Thu, 30 Nov 2023 00:14 UTC

On 11/29/2023 2:56 PM, Devoise Baiburin Marmazov wrote:
> stupid fuck Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>> On 11/28/2023 10:08 AM, Jan Yuzhilin Bavtrukevitch wrote:
>>> Vladimir Putin once again is correct in his analysis...We the PEOPLE
>>> are 𝗻𝗼𝘁_𝗮𝗻𝘁𝗶_𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻, but our so called 𝗸𝗵𝗮𝘇𝗮𝗿_𝗴𝗼𝘆_"𝗲𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗲𝘀" are. No
>>> matter, in the end Russia will prevail against her enemies.
>>
>> Russians learn too slowly. And on top of that, they get carried away
>> even by Hollywood. Let alone literature, art, and science. That's why
>> they fell for the communism.
>
> watch this, fucking stoopid. You know no physics, math, relativity,
> computers, operating systems, capitalism, communism etc. Russia just won a
> big war against terrorist nato, us, eu and uk all together.
>
> 𝗧𝗵𝗲_𝗦𝗼𝘃𝗶𝗲𝘁_𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗲_𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗴𝗿𝗮𝗺_𝗽𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗱_𝗺𝗮𝗻𝘆_𝗮𝘀𝗽𝗲𝗰𝘁𝘀_𝗼𝗳_𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗲_𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗹𝗼𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻:
>
> 1957: First intercontinental ballistic missile and orbital launch
> vehicle, the R-7 Semyorka.
> 1957: First satellite, Sputnik 1.
> 1957: First animal in Earth orbit, the dog Laika on Sputnik 2.
> 1959: First rocket ignition in Earth orbit, first man-made object to
> escape Earth's gravity, Luna 1.
> 1959: First data communications, or telemetry, to and from outer
> space, Luna 1.
> 1959: First man-made object to pass near the Moon, first man-made
> object in Heliocentric orbit, Luna 1.
> 1959: First probe to impact the Moon, Luna 2.
> 1959: First images of the Moon's far side, Luna 3.
> 1960: First animals to safely return from Earth orbit, the dogs Belka
> and Strelka on Sputnik 5.
> 1961: First probe launched to Venus, Venera 1.
> 1961: First person in space (International definition) and in Earth
> orbit, Yuri Gagarin on Vostok 1, Vostok program.
> 1961: First person to spend over 24 hours in space Gherman Titov,
> Vostok 2 (also first person to sleep in space).
> 1962: First dual crewed spaceflight, Vostok 3 and Vostok 4.
> 1962: First probe launched to Mars, Mars 1.
> 1963: First woman in space, Valentina Tereshkova, Vostok 6.
> 1964: First multi-person crew (3), Voskhod 1.
> 1965: First extra-vehicular activity (EVA), by Alexsei Leonov,[80]
> Voskhod 2.
> 1965: First radio telescope in space, Zond 3.
> 1965: First probe to hit another planet of the Solar System (Venus),
> Venera 3.
> 1966: First probe to make a soft landing on and transmit from the
> surface of the Moon, Luna 9.
> 1966: First probe in lunar orbit, Luna 10.
> 1966: first image of the whole Earth disk, Molniya 1.[81]
> 1967: First uncrewed rendezvous and docking, Cosmos 186/Cosmos 188.
> 1968: First living beings to reach the Moon (circumlunar flights) and
> return unharmed to Earth, Russian tortoises and other lifeforms on Zond 5.
> 1969: First docking between two crewed craft in Earth orbit and
> exchange of crews, Soyuz 4 and Soyuz 5.
> 1970: First soil samples automatically extracted and returned to Earth
> from another celestial body, Luna 16.
> 1970: First robotic space rover, Lunokhod 1 on the Moon.
> 1970: First full interplanetary travel with a soft landing and useful
> data transmission. Data received from the surface of another planet of the
> Solar System (Venus), Venera 7
> 1971: First space station, Salyut 1.
> 1971: First probe to impact the surface of Mars, Mars 2.
> 1971: First probe to land on Mars, Mars 3.
> 1971: First armed space station, Almaz.
> 1975: First probe to orbit Venus, to make a soft landing on Venus,
> first photos from the surface of Venus, Venera 9.
> 1980: First Asian person in space, Vietnamese Cosmonaut Pham Tuan on
> Soyuz 37; and First Latin American, Cuban and person with African ancestry
> in space, Arnaldo Tamayo Méndez on Soyuz 38
> 1984: First Indian Astronaut in space, Rakesh Sharma on Soyuz T-11
> (Salyut-7 space station).
> 1984: First woman to walk in space, Svetlana Savitskaya (Salyut 7
> space station).
> 1986: First crew to visit two separate space stations (Mir and Salyut
> 7).
> 1986: First probes to deploy robotic balloons into Venus atmosphere
> and to return pictures of a comet during close flyby Vega 1, Vega 2.
> 1986: First permanently crewed space station, Mir, 1986–2001, with a
> permanent presence on board (1989–1999).
> 1987: First crew to spend over one year in space, Vladimir Titov and
> Musa Manarov on board of Soyuz TM-4 – Mir.
> 1988: First fully automated flight of a spaceplane (Buran).
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_space_program

Even in that space competition they were fooled by Americans. They're
easy to get fooled and/or played.

The thing is, they don't have a root for themselves. They feel they have
to always borrow roots from Westerners. That's their biggest problem.

Iranians have a root! So Russians need cooperation of Iranians to
correctly confront the West.

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On 11/29/2023 3:56 PM, Devoise Baiburin Marmazov wrote:

> 𝗧𝗵𝗲_𝗦𝗼𝘃𝗶𝗲𝘁_𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗲_𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗴𝗿𝗮𝗺_𝗽𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗱_𝗺𝗮𝗻𝘆_𝗮𝘀𝗽𝗲𝗰𝘁𝘀_𝗼𝗳_𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗲_𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗹𝗼𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻:
>
Thanks in large part to the Ukrainians of the USSR. No wonder 卐Putler卐
wants to steal Ukraine for his USSR V2.0.

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Volney wrote:

> On 11/29/2023 3:56 PM, Devoise Baiburin Marmazov wrote:
>
>> 𝗧𝗵𝗲_𝗦𝗼𝘃𝗶𝗲𝘁_𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗲_𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗴𝗿𝗮𝗺_𝗽𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗱_𝗺𝗮𝗻𝘆_𝗮𝘀𝗽𝗲𝗰𝘁𝘀_𝗼𝗳_𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗲_𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗹𝗼𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻:
>>
> Thanks in large part to t̶h̶e̶ U̶k̶r̶a̶i̶n̶i̶a̶n̶s̶ of the USSR. No wonder 卐P̶u̶t̶l̶e̶r̶卐
> wants t̶o̶ s̶t̶e̶a̶l̶ U̶k̶r̶a̶i̶n̶e̶ for his USSR V2.0.

there are 𝗻𝗼 "𝘂𝗸𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘀", me friend. But, 𝗽𝘂𝗿𝗲 𝗯𝗹𝗼𝗼𝗱 𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘀. The gay actor
khazar goy 𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴_"𝗽𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗻𝘁" on 𝘁𝗵𝗲_𝗯𝗲𝗵𝗮𝗹𝗳 of fucking america, is a 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗯𝗮𝗱
𝗸𝗵𝗮𝘇𝗮𝗿 𝗴𝗼𝘆, stealing a country for america. However, the 𝘄𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗻_𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮 is
86% 𝗖𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗮𝗻, not khazar goys. Amazing you act this stupid.

I just find out 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁_89%_𝗼𝗳_𝗴𝗼𝘃_𝗿𝗲𝗽𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲𝘀 of america do have, and do are
acting 𝗮𝗹𝗼𝗻𝗴_𝗱𝗼𝘂𝗯𝗹𝗲_𝗰𝗶𝘁𝗶𝘇𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗵𝗶𝗽. I can't undrestand 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝘁𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗿𝘆. Tell them go
back to fucking polakia. America can't be their home. Impossible. They
destroyed america. Incredible you've been fooled by a gay actor 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴
𝗽𝗶𝗮𝗻𝗼 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗱𝗶𝗰𝗸. This wanker you support, calling him "president". You
are a fucking idiot. You will be incarcerated by 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗜𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗻𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗧𝗿𝗶𝗯𝘂𝗻𝗮𝗹
𝗖𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘁. Here some proofs.

𝗦𝗼𝗻_𝗼𝗳_𝗘𝗻𝗼𝘀
https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/jw6Hot75256d

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 by: Physfitfreak - Thu, 30 Nov 2023 19:51 UTC

On 11/30/2023 1:22 PM, Rocco Mumladze Bahelov wrote:
> there are 𝗻𝗼 "𝘂𝗸𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘀", me friend. But, 𝗽𝘂𝗿𝗲 𝗯𝗹𝗼𝗼𝗱 𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘀. The gay actor
> khazar goy 𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴_"𝗽𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗻𝘁" on 𝘁𝗵𝗲_𝗯𝗲𝗵𝗮𝗹𝗳 of fucking america, is a 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗯𝗮𝗱
> 𝗸𝗵𝗮𝘇𝗮𝗿 𝗴𝗼𝘆, stealing a country for america. However, the 𝘄𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗻_𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮 is
> 86% 𝗖𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗮𝗻, not khazar goys. Amazing you act this stupid.

Hanson, you're a donkey in matters of Russia. Like "Jim Pennino" is,
without his internet access.

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 by: Jim Pennino - Thu, 30 Nov 2023 20:04 UTC

In sci.physics Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/30/2023 1:22 PM, Rocco Mumladze Bahelov wrote:
>> there are 𝗻𝗼 "𝘂𝗸𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘀", me friend. But, 𝗽𝘂𝗿𝗲 𝗯𝗹𝗼𝗼𝗱 𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘀. The gay actor
>> khazar goy 𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴_"𝗽𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗻𝘁" on 𝘁𝗵𝗲_𝗯𝗲𝗵𝗮𝗹𝗳 of fucking america, is a 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗯𝗮𝗱
>> 𝗸𝗵𝗮𝘇𝗮𝗿 𝗴𝗼𝘆, stealing a country for america. However, the 𝘄𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗻_𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮 is
>> 86% 𝗖𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗮𝗻, not khazar goys. Amazing you act this stupid.
>
>
> Hanson, you're a donkey in matters of Russia. Like "Jim Pennino" is,
> without his internet access.

The Dunning-Kruger poster boy can't seem to grasp that Hanson hasn't
posted anything for a very long time.

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 by: Volney - Thu, 30 Nov 2023 20:14 UTC

On 11/30/2023 2:22 PM, Rocco Mumladze Bahelov wrote:
> Volney wrote:
>
>> On 11/29/2023 3:56 PM, Devoise Baiburin Marmazov wrote:
>>
>>> 𝗧𝗵𝗲_𝗦𝗼𝘃𝗶𝗲𝘁_𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗲_𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗴𝗿𝗮𝗺_𝗽𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗱_𝗺𝗮𝗻𝘆_𝗮𝘀𝗽𝗲𝗰𝘁𝘀_𝗼𝗳_𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗲_𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗹𝗼𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻:
>>>
>> Thanks in large part to t̶h̶e̶ U̶k̶r̶a̶i̶n̶i̶a̶n̶s̶ of the USSR. No wonder 卐P̶u̶t̶l̶e̶r̶卐
>> wants t̶o̶ s̶t̶e̶a̶l̶ U̶k̶r̶a̶i̶n̶e̶ for his USSR V2.0.
>
> there are 𝗻𝗼 "𝘂𝗸𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘀", me friend. But, 𝗽𝘂𝗿𝗲 𝗯𝗹𝗼𝗼𝗱 𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘀.

Nobody believes that, nymshifter. The Ukrainians have their own
language, their own culture, 卐ru⚡︎⚡︎ians卐 insult them by calling them
хохол, and they are fighting against the nazi 卐ru⚡︎⚡︎ians卐 because their
only other option would to be genocided by the 卐ru⚡︎⚡︎ians卐, as Stalin
already tried.

The Ukrainians seemed to have been the brains of the former USSR. The
USSR space program was largely Ukraine based. Lots of factories in
Ukraine that 卐ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐 no longer has access so 卐ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐 can no longer
make lots of things the USSR could.

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 by: Volney - Thu, 30 Nov 2023 20:19 UTC

On 11/30/2023 3:04 PM, Jim Pennino wrote:
> In sci.physics Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/30/2023 1:22 PM, Rocco Mumladze Bahelov wrote:
>>> there are 𝗻𝗼 "𝘂𝗸𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘀", me friend. But, 𝗽𝘂𝗿𝗲 𝗯𝗹𝗼𝗼𝗱 𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘀. The gay actor
>>> khazar goy 𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴_"𝗽𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗻𝘁" on 𝘁𝗵𝗲_𝗯𝗲𝗵𝗮𝗹𝗳 of fucking america, is a 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗯𝗮𝗱
>>> 𝗸𝗵𝗮𝘇𝗮𝗿 𝗴𝗼𝘆, stealing a country for america. However, the 𝘄𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗻_𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮 is
>>> 86% 𝗖𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗮𝗻, not khazar goys. Amazing you act this stupid.
>>
>>
>> Hanson, you're a donkey in matters of Russia. Like "Jim Pennino" is,
>> without his internet access.
>
> The Dunning-Kruger poster boy can't seem to grasp that Hanson hasn't
> posted anything for a very long time.
>
>
>
yeah, haha Hanson vanished when his stalkee, Trebert, left or died.

Re: Plasma Cosmology - No Big Bang, no redshift. Pseudo-static Universe

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 by: Eduan Abdulladzhanof - Thu, 30 Nov 2023 21:19 UTC

Volney wrote:

> On 11/30/2023 2:22 PM, Rocco Mumladze Bahelov wrote:
>> Volney wrote:
>>> On 11/29/2023 3:56 PM, Devoise Baiburin Marmazov wrote:
>>>> 𝗧𝗵𝗲_𝗦𝗼𝘃𝗶𝗲𝘁_𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗲_𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗴𝗿𝗮𝗺_𝗽𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗱_𝗺𝗮𝗻𝘆_𝗮𝘀𝗽𝗲𝗰𝘁𝘀_𝗼𝗳_𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗲_𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗹𝗼𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻:
>>> Thanks in large part to t̶h̶e̶ U̶k̶r̶a̶i̶n̶i̶a̶n̶s̶ of the USSR. No
>>> wonder 卐P̶u̶t̶l̶e̶r̶卐 wants t̶o̶ s̶t̶e̶a̶l̶ U̶k̶r̶a̶i̶n̶e̶ for his
>>> USSR V2.0.
>>
>> there are 𝗻𝗼 "𝘂𝗸𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘀", me friend. But, 𝗽𝘂𝗿𝗲 𝗯𝗹𝗼𝗼𝗱 𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘀.
>
> Nobody believes that, nymshifter. The Ukrainians have their own
> language,

you are so stupid, you make me sleep. There are no phonetic difference in
the language, but talking badly Russian, I understood. If you say you hear
some differences in the language, you are a liar son of a bitch. Which it
was expected.

𝗦𝗼𝗻_𝗼𝗳_𝗘𝗻𝗼𝘀
https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/jw6Hot75256d

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