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* Re: Google Groups shutting down for goodDlzc
+- Re: Google Groups shutting down for goodrotchm
+* Re: Google Groups shutting down for goodRoss Finlayson
|`- Re: Google Groups shutting down for goodRoss Finlayson
`* Re: Google Groups shutting down for goodRichD
 `- Re: Google Groups shutting down for goodRoss Finlayson

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Re: Google Groups shutting down for good

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Subject: Re: Google Groups shutting down for good
From: turkeyhe...@gmail.com (Dlzc)
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 by: Dlzc - Fri, 15 Dec 2023 12:12 UTC

On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 10:39:34 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
> by now most of yous heard
> Google Groups will shut down for good...
>
> feb 2024

Spammers have flooded newsgroups. This one gets about 20 posts a day. Another one I monitor gets 200 or more a day.

As soon as Google stops indexing / webcrawling them, the spammers don't generate search engine hits with spam in this way.

David A. Smith

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Subject: Re: Google Groups shutting down for good
From: rot...@gmail.com (rotchm)
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 by: rotchm - Fri, 15 Dec 2023 14:24 UTC

On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 7:12:26 AM UTC-5, Dlzc wrote:
> On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 10:39:34 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:

> Spammers have flooded newsgroups.

And thats googles fault because google can easily stop the spam posts to its servers, but elects
not to do so (or google hires really dumb people who cant figure out how to stop the spam).

> As soon as Google stops indexing / webcrawling them,

Then why doesnt google just stop indexing them!? Spammers are easy to detect & filter out.

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Subject: Re: Google Groups shutting down for good
From: ross.a.f...@gmail.com (Ross Finlayson)
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 by: Ross Finlayson - Sun, 17 Dec 2023 17:12 UTC

On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 4:12:26 AM UTC-8, Dlzc wrote:
> On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 10:39:34 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
> > by now most of yous heard
> > Google Groups will shut down for good...
> >
> > feb 2024
> Spammers have flooded newsgroups. This one gets about 20 posts a day. Another one I monitor gets 200 or more a day.
>
> As soon as Google stops indexing / webcrawling them, the spammers don't generate search engine hits with spam in this way.
>
> David A. Smith

God-damn if these spammers can go to HELL.

In the old days, you could just bring some ears of a varmint,
and someone would pay a bounty of a few dollars.

So if you outed the spammers, I'd be interested.

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Subject: Re: Google Groups shutting down for good
From: ross.a.f...@gmail.com (Ross Finlayson)
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 by: Ross Finlayson - Sun, 17 Dec 2023 17:46 UTC

On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 9:12:34 AM UTC-8, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 4:12:26 AM UTC-8, Dlzc wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 10:39:34 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > by now most of yous heard
> > > Google Groups will shut down for good...
> > >
> > > feb 2024
> > Spammers have flooded newsgroups. This one gets about 20 posts a day. Another one I monitor gets 200 or more a day.
> >
> > As soon as Google stops indexing / webcrawling them, the spammers don't generate search engine hits with spam in this way.
> >
> > David A. Smith
> God-damn if these spammers can go to HELL.
>
>
> In the old days, you could just bring some ears of a varmint,
> and someone would pay a bounty of a few dollars.
>
> So if you outed the spammers, I'd be interested.

The spammers seem most all associated with Google accounts,
I'm curious about the injection headers and NNTP-post-host,
whether they're actually spamming via Google or duping Usenet
with some accomplice Usenet peer,
in their counterfeit and forgeing of Usenet posts,
violating the Usenet's terms,
and whether they are just having stolen the identities of ignorant dupes,
or that anyways they are all fake accounts setup in a mechanism that's
usually to fake ad-commissions, that at any rate, it should be possible
to isolate the source of the spam, and figure out how to forward
each their posts to abuse@ and webmaster@ them,
and where they come from.

.... and where they come from.

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Subject: Re: Google Groups shutting down for good
From: r_delane...@yahoo.com (RichD)
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 by: RichD - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 01:07 UTC

On December 15, Dlzc wrote:
> Spammers have flooded newsgroups. This one gets about 20 posts a day.
> Another one I monitor gets 200 or more a day.
> As soon as Google stops indexing / webcrawling them, the spammers don't generate search
> engine hits with spam in this way.

I'm no hacker, but I read an article discussing 'hack back'.
The idea is to retaliate against the hackers or spammers.

The asian betting sites deserve eternity in the Lake of Fire.
Is there a way to hack back? Like, overload their servers with
a million requests? I don't know how, but I'll applaud anyone
who does -

--
Rich

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Subject: Re: Google Groups shutting down for good
From: ross.a.f...@gmail.com (Ross Finlayson)
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 by: Ross Finlayson - Fri, 22 Dec 2023 22:42 UTC

On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 5:07:21 PM UTC-8, RichD wrote:
> On December 15, Dlzc wrote:
> > Spammers have flooded newsgroups. This one gets about 20 posts a day.
> > Another one I monitor gets 200 or more a day.
> > As soon as Google stops indexing / webcrawling them, the spammers don't generate search
> > engine hits with spam in this way.
>
> I'm no hacker, but I read an article discussing 'hack back'.
> The idea is to retaliate against the hackers or spammers.
>
> The asian betting sites deserve eternity in the Lake of Fire.
> Is there a way to hack back? Like, overload their servers with
> a million requests? I don't know how, but I'll applaud anyone
> who does -
>
> --
> Rich

Google's as much a "hide" as a "search" engine.

If it weren't for the spam then it would just be like
"Google started as a DARPA project and should have an
affinity for others, how about a lame excuse."

They should be real pros at hating competition.

Seems there's not much money in it for them.

Also here there are some worries about "the government shutting down".

Seems there's not much money in it for them.

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