Typical...

There's a reason the big energy producers never jumped on this bandwagon, preferring instead to let someone else do it.

https://time.com/6317339/rooftop-solar-power-failure/

On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 3:09:36 PM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> Typical...
>
> There's a reason the big energy producers never jumped on this bandwagon, preferring instead to let someone else do it.
>
> https://time.com/6317339/rooftop-solar-power-failure/

I see data showing increasing numbers of complaints. I don't see where they take into account the increasing number of installations, or the increasing age of the previously installed solar panels. In other words, this is exactly what I would expect to see for a realatively new product with increasing sales.

--

Rick C.

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On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 12:09:30 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>Typical...
>
>There's a reason the big energy producers never jumped on this bandwagon, preferring instead to let someone else do it.
>
>https://time.com/6317339/rooftop-solar-power-failure/

New York seems like an especially terrible place for rooftop solar
panels.

On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:24:16 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 12:09:30 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Typical...
> >
> >There's a reason the big energy producers never jumped on this bandwagon, preferring instead to let someone else do it.
> >
> >https://time.com/6317339/rooftop-solar-power-failure/
> New York seems like an especially terrible place for rooftop solar
> panels.

When GW clears out all the traditionally gloomy weather, things should start to look up.

On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 3:51:28 PM UTC-4, Ricky wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 3:09:36 PM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > Typical...
> >
> > There's a reason the big energy producers never jumped on this bandwagon, preferring instead to let someone else do it.
> >
> > https://time.com/6317339/rooftop-solar-power-failure/
> I see data showing increasing numbers of complaints. I don't see where they take into account the increasing number of installations, or the increasing age of the previously installed solar panels. In other words, this is exactly what I would expect to see for a realatively new product with increasing sales.

Sounds like they're charging for energy use in addition to 'leasing' the panels themselves. That's a new one on me. Unless they can show panel life is a function of cumulative energy output, someone is getting ripped off. The fact that panels degrade is not new. The one technology I'm familiar with, the CdTe, estimates at -10% at 20 years. It's not linear in time. The degradation hits a knee and then nosedives comparatively speaking, from what I can gather.

>
> --
>
> Rick C.
>
> - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 14:08:43 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:24:16?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 12:09:30 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Typical...
>> >
>> >There's a reason the big energy producers never jumped on this bandwagon, preferring instead to let someone else do it.
>> >
>> >https://time.com/6317339/rooftop-solar-power-failure/
>> New York seems like an especially terrible place for rooftop solar
>> panels.
>
>When GW clears out all the traditionally gloomy weather, things should start to look up.

The sun angle won't change much. It may still snow in the winter.

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:51:28 AM UTC+10, Ricky wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 3:09:36 PM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > Typical...
> >
> > There's a reason the big energy producers never jumped on this bandwagon, preferring instead to let someone else do it.
> >
> > https://time.com/6317339/rooftop-solar-power-failure/
>
> I see data showing increasing numbers of complaints. I don't see where they take into account the increasing number of installations, or the increasing age of the previously installed solar panels. In other words, this is exactly what I would expect to see for a relatively new product with increasing sales.

The current generation of solar cells produced in high volume is more efficient that the previous generation and lasts longer. A lot of old Australian rooftop solar just gets dumped and replaced - it pays to move up to a new higher yielding panel - particularly if you put in your own battery at the same time, and store your excess production rather than selling it back to grid for peanuts.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On 9/27/2023 6:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 14:08:43 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:24:16?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 12:09:30 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Typical...
>>>>
>>>> There's a reason the big energy producers never jumped on this bandwagon, preferring instead to let someone else do it.
>>>>
>>>> https://time.com/6317339/rooftop-solar-power-failure/
>>> New York seems like an especially terrible place for rooftop solar
>>> panels.
>>
>> When GW clears out all the traditionally gloomy weather, things should start to look up.
>
> The sun angle won't change much. It may still snow in the winter.
>

Some parts of upstate NY get a lot of snow. Meanwhile Southeastern New
England definitely isn't upstate New York or Canada, it's often the case
that fall and early winter are the driest and sunniest times of the year
here.

November and December recently have been downright balmy, ironically I'm
expecting December to be a much sunnier month than this past July when
it rarely stopped raining.

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 12:35:11 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:51:28 AM UTC+10, Ricky wrote:
> > On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 3:09:36 PM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > > Typical...
> > >
> > > There's a reason the big energy producers never jumped on this bandwagon, preferring instead to let someone else do it.
> > >
> > > https://time.com/6317339/rooftop-solar-power-failure/
> >
> > I see data showing increasing numbers of complaints. I don't see where they take into account the increasing number of installations, or the increasing age of the previously installed solar panels. In other words, this is exactly what I would expect to see for a relatively new product with increasing sales.
>
> The current generation of solar cells produced in high volume is more efficient that the previous generation and lasts longer. A lot of old Australian rooftop solar just gets dumped and replaced - it pays to move up to a new higher yielding panel - particularly if you put in your own battery at the same time, and store your excess production rather than selling it back to grid for peanuts.

What's your point?

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Rick C.

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On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 6:59:38 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 14:08:43 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:24:16?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> >> On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 12:09:30 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Typical...
> >> >
> >> >There's a reason the big energy producers never jumped on this bandwagon, preferring instead to let someone else do it.
> >> >
> >> >https://time.com/6317339/rooftop-solar-power-failure/
> >> New York seems like an especially terrible place for rooftop solar
> >> panels.
> >
> >When GW clears out all the traditionally gloomy weather, things should start to look up.
> The sun angle won't change much. It may still snow in the winter.

I think they know about that and have heaters powered by battery storage to melt it. This is certainly a consideration for the big grid-tied farms. Don't know about residential rooftop, it should be an option.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 09:35:06 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

>On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:51:28?AM UTC+10, Ricky wrote:
>> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 3:09:36?PM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
>> > Typical...
>> >
>> > There's a reason the big energy producers never jumped on this bandwagon, preferring instead to let someone else do it.
>> >
>> > https://time.com/6317339/rooftop-solar-power-failure/
>>
>> I see data showing increasing numbers of complaints. I don't see where they take into account the increasing number of installations, or the increasing age of the previously installed solar panels. In other words, this is exactly what I would expect to see for a relatively new product with increasing sales.
>
>The current generation of solar cells produced in high volume is more efficient that the previous generation and lasts longer. A lot of old Australian rooftop solar just gets dumped and replaced - it pays to move up to a new higher yielding panel - particularly if you put in your own battery at the same time, and store your excess production rather than selling it back to grid for peanuts.

The article says nothing about why they stopped production except for
higher temperatures which MAY (or may not) mean the PV Vmp dropped
lower than the inverter(s) needed. That would be a design issue.

The article is obviously written for dumbshits that know nothing about
photovoltaics.

No mention of even microinverters vs string inverters.

The article is fairly useless as far as education. That's the media
for ya.

boB

On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 13:23:53 -0700, John Larkin <jl@997arbor.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 12:09:30 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
><bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Typical...
>>
>>There's a reason the big energy producers never jumped on this bandwagon, preferring instead to let someone else do it.
>>
>>https://time.com/6317339/rooftop-solar-power-failure/
>
>New York seems like an especially terrible place for rooftop solar
>panels.

This is true ! Doesn't it rain a lot there ?

boB

On a sunny day (Thu, 28 Sep 2023 12:55:47 -0400) it happened bitrex
<user@example.net> wrote in <neiRM.78401$3vM.46106@fx37.iad>:

>On 9/27/2023 6:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 14:08:43 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>> <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:24:16?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 12:09:30 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>>>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Typical...
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a reason the big energy producers never jumped on this bandwagon, preferring instead to let someone else do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://time.com/6317339/rooftop-solar-power-failure/
>>>> New York seems like an especially terrible place for rooftop solar
>>>> panels.
>>>
>>> When GW clears out all the traditionally gloomy weather, things should start to look up.
>>
>> The sun angle won't change much. It may still snow in the winter.
>>
>
>Some parts of upstate NY get a lot of snow. Meanwhile Southeastern New
>England definitely isn't upstate New York or Canada, it's often the case
>that fall and early winter are the driest and sunniest times of the year
>here.
>
>November and December recently have been downright balmy, ironically I'm
>expecting December to be a much sunnier month than this past July when
>it rarely stopped raining.

There have been problems reported here about solar panels being destroyed in fires,
in hail storms and other mechanical damage causes
where the glass splinters posed a danger to human beings.

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:06:23 PM UTC-4, boB wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 09:35:06 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
> <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:51:28?AM UTC+10, Ricky wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 3:09:36?PM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> >> > Typical...
> >> >
> >> > There's a reason the big energy producers never jumped on this bandwagon, preferring instead to let someone else do it.
> >> >
> >> > https://time.com/6317339/rooftop-solar-power-failure/
> >>
> >> I see data showing increasing numbers of complaints. I don't see where they take into account the increasing number of installations, or the increasing age of the previously installed solar panels. In other words, this is exactly what I would expect to see for a relatively new product with increasing sales.
> >
> >The current generation of solar cells produced in high volume is more efficient that the previous generation and lasts longer. A lot of old Australian rooftop solar just gets dumped and replaced - it pays to move up to a new higher yielding panel - particularly if you put in your own battery at the same time, and store your excess production rather than selling it back to grid for peanuts.
> The article says nothing about why they stopped production except for
> higher temperatures which MAY (or may not) mean the PV Vmp dropped
> lower than the inverter(s) needed. That would be a design issue.
>
> The article is obviously written for dumbshits that know nothing about
> photovoltaics.
>
> No mention of even microinverters vs string inverters.
>
> The article is fairly useless as far as education. That's the media
> for ya.

It's Time Magazine, not IEEE Spectrum. Their readers would not be interested in those details. They would be interested to learn the industry is dominated by fly-by-night businesses.

>
> boB

On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 1:24:33 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Thu, 28 Sep 2023 12:55:47 -0400) it happened bitrex
> <us...@example.net> wrote in <neiRM.78401$3vM....@fx37.iad>:
> >On 9/27/2023 6:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> >> On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 14:08:43 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:24:16?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 12:09:30 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> >>>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Typical...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There's a reason the big energy producers never jumped on this bandwagon, preferring instead to let someone else do it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://time.com/6317339/rooftop-solar-power-failure/
> >>>> New York seems like an especially terrible place for rooftop solar
> >>>> panels.
> >>>
> >>> When GW clears out all the traditionally gloomy weather, things should start to look up.
> >>
> >> The sun angle won't change much. It may still snow in the winter.
> >>
> >
> >Some parts of upstate NY get a lot of snow. Meanwhile Southeastern New
> >England definitely isn't upstate New York or Canada, it's often the case
> >that fall and early winter are the driest and sunniest times of the year
> >here.
> >
> >November and December recently have been downright balmy, ironically I'm
> >expecting December to be a much sunnier month than this past July when
> >it rarely stopped raining.
> There have been problems reported here about solar panels being destroyed in fires,
> in hail storms and other mechanical damage causes
> where the glass splinters posed a danger to human beings.

Then there is the Walmart suit brought against that phony Tesla/ Musk solar panel company for setting all their roofs on fire.

On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 04:29:37 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:06:23?PM UTC-4, boB wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 09:35:06 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
>> <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:51:28?AM UTC+10, Ricky wrote:
>> >> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 3:09:36?PM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
>> >> > Typical...
>> >> >
>> >> > There's a reason the big energy producers never jumped on this bandwagon, preferring instead to let someone else do it.
>> >> >
>> >> > https://time.com/6317339/rooftop-solar-power-failure/
>> >>
>> >> I see data showing increasing numbers of complaints. I don't see where they take into account the increasing number of installations, or the increasing age of the previously installed solar panels. In other words, this is exactly what I would expect to see for a relatively new product with increasing sales.
>> >
>> >The current generation of solar cells produced in high volume is more efficient that the previous generation and lasts longer. A lot of old Australian rooftop solar just gets dumped and replaced - it pays to move up to a new higher yielding panel - particularly if you put in your own battery at the same time, and store your excess production rather than selling it back to grid for peanuts.
>> The article says nothing about why they stopped production except for
>> higher temperatures which MAY (or may not) mean the PV Vmp dropped
>> lower than the inverter(s) needed. That would be a design issue.
>>
>> The article is obviously written for dumbshits that know nothing about
>> photovoltaics.
>>
>> No mention of even microinverters vs string inverters.
>>
>> The article is fairly useless as far as education. That's the media
>> for ya.
>
>It's Time Magazine, not IEEE Spectrum. Their readers would not be interested in those details. They would be interested to learn the industry is dominated by fly-by-night businesses.
>
>
>>
>> boB

They could still explain it better than making it a political
statement which is how I saw it.

boB

On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 08:44:38 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 04:29:37 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
><bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:06:23?PM UTC-4, boB wrote:
>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 09:35:06 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
>>> <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:51:28?AM UTC+10, Ricky wrote:
>>> >> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 3:09:36?PM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
>>> >> > Typical...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > There's a reason the big energy producers never jumped on this bandwagon, preferring instead to let someone else do it.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > https://time.com/6317339/rooftop-solar-power-failure/
>>> >>
>>> >> I see data showing increasing numbers of complaints. I don't see where they take into account the increasing number of installations, or the increasing age of the previously installed solar panels. In other words, this is exactly what I would expect to see for a relatively new product with increasing sales.
>>> >
>>> >The current generation of solar cells produced in high volume is more efficient that the previous generation and lasts longer. A lot of old Australian rooftop solar just gets dumped and replaced - it pays to move up to a new higher yielding panel - particularly if you put in your own battery at the same time, and store your excess production rather than selling it back to grid for peanuts.
>>> The article says nothing about why they stopped production except for
>>> higher temperatures which MAY (or may not) mean the PV Vmp dropped
>>> lower than the inverter(s) needed. That would be a design issue.
>>>
>>> The article is obviously written for dumbshits that know nothing about
>>> photovoltaics.
>>>
>>> No mention of even microinverters vs string inverters.
>>>
>>> The article is fairly useless as far as education. That's the media
>>> for ya.
>>
>>It's Time Magazine, not IEEE Spectrum. Their readers would not be interested in those details. They would be interested to learn the industry is dominated by fly-by-night businesses.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> boB
>
>
>They could still explain it better than making it a political
>statement which is how I saw it.
>
>boB

This type of article is one way the media dumbs down society.

boB

On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 1:47:31 AM UTC+10, boB wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 08:44:38 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote:
> >On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 04:29:37 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:06:23?PM UTC-4, boB wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 09:35:06 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
> >>> >On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:51:28?AM UTC+10, Ricky wrote:
> >>> >> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 3:09:36?PM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:

<snip>

> This type of article is one way the media dumbs down society.

The media doesn't dumb down society. The media just serves their customers, and a lot of those customer like their news dumbed down so they don't have to work hard to make sense of it. Fox News caters to an audience which prefers lies to truth.

The US Food and Drug Adminstration stops greedy capitalist from making money out of selling products that actually damage the people who buy them.

An intellectual equivalent would shut down Fox News immediately.

If you want want a better product from the media you can buy it - I subscribe to the New Yorker and the New Scientist.

The media isn't any kind of monolith.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 11:24:45 PM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 1:47:31 AM UTC+10, boB wrote:
> > On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 08:44:38 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote:
> > >On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 04:29:37 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:06:23?PM UTC-4, boB wrote:
> > >>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 09:35:06 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
> > >>> >On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:51:28?AM UTC+10, Ricky wrote:
> > >>> >> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 3:09:36?PM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> <snip>
> > This type of article is one way the media dumbs down society.
> The media doesn't dumb down society. The media just serves their customers, and a lot of those customer like their news dumbed down so they don't have to work hard to make sense of it. Fox News caters to an audience which prefers lies to truth.
>
> The US Food and Drug Adminstration stops greedy capitalist from making money out of selling products that actually damage the people who buy them.
>
> An intellectual equivalent would shut down Fox News immediately.

Right. You libtards would have a hard-on if Fox was "shut down". Fox News is the ONLY network exposing the Lyin' Biden for all of his criminal activities, as well as his failures on the border and Afghanistan, along with rampant crime in the US.

>
> If you want want a better product from the media you can buy it - I subscribe to the New Yorker and the New Scientist.

"want want" - is that your STUTTER returning, Bozo?
>
> The media isn't any kind of monolith.
>
> --
> Bozo Bill Slowman, Sydney

On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 2:25:22 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 11:24:45 PM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 1:47:31 AM UTC+10, boB wrote:
> > > On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 08:44:38 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote:
> > > >On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 04:29:37 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:06:23?PM UTC-4, boB wrote:
> > > >>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 09:35:06 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
> > > >>> >On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:51:28?AM UTC+10, Ricky wrote:
> > > >>> >> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 3:09:36?PM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > This type of article is one way the media dumbs down society.
> >
> > The media doesn't dumb down society. The media just serves their customers, and a lot of those customer like their news dumbed down so they don't have to work hard to make sense of it. Fox News caters to an audience which prefers lies to truth.
> >
> > The US Food and Drug Adminstration stops greedy capitalist from making money out of selling products that actually damage the people who buy them.
> >
> > An intellectual equivalent would shut down Fox News immediately.
>
> Right. You libtards would have a hard-on if Fox was "shut down".

Probably not. It has knowingly lied to public - repeating Donald Trump's outright lies about the stolen election.

> Fox News is the ONLY network exposing Joe Biden for all of his criminal activities, as well as his failures on the border and Afghanistan, along with rampant crime in the US.

None of which actually exist. Telling Trump supporters those lies keeps them happy and watching Fox News, but they are lies.

> > If you want a better product from the media you can buy it - I subscribe to the New Yorker and the New Scientist.

<snipped Sewage Sweper being rude about a typo - he does scrape the bottom of the barrel>

> > The media isn't any kind of monolith.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Tuesday, 3 October 2023 at 07:38:56 UTC+1, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 2:25:22 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 11:24:45 PM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 1:47:31 AM UTC+10, boB wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 08:44:38 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote:
> > > > >On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 04:29:37 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:06:23?PM UTC-4, boB wrote:
> > > > >>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 09:35:06 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
> > > > >>> >On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:51:28?AM UTC+10, Ricky wrote:
> > > > >>> >> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 3:09:36?PM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > > This type of article is one way the media dumbs down society.
> > >
> > > The media doesn't dumb down society. The media just serves their customers, and a lot of those customer like their news dumbed down so they don't have to work hard to make sense of it. Fox News caters to an audience which prefers lies to truth.
> > >
> > > The US Food and Drug Adminstration stops greedy capitalist from making money out of selling products that actually damage the people who buy them.
> > >
> > > An intellectual equivalent would shut down Fox News immediately.
> >
> > Right. You libtards would have a hard-on if Fox was "shut down".
> Probably not. It has knowingly lied to public - repeating Donald Trump's outright lies about the stolen election.

every news channel has repeated misinformation at times. It would be oddly dishonest & foolish to pretend only one ever has.

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 11:11:57 AM UTC+11, Tabby wrote:
> On Tuesday, 3 October 2023 at 07:38:56 UTC+1, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 2:25:22 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 11:24:45 PM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 1:47:31 AM UTC+10, boB wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 08:44:38 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote:
> > > > > >On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 04:29:37 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:06:23?PM UTC-4, boB wrote:
> > > > > >>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 09:35:06 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
> > > > > >>> >On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:51:28?AM UTC+10, Ricky wrote:
> > > > > >>> >> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 3:09:36?PM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > > >
> > > > <snip>
> > > >
> > > > > This type of article is one way the media dumbs down society.
> > > >
> > > > The media doesn't dumb down society. The media just serves their customers, and a lot of those customer like their news dumbed down so they don't have to work hard to make sense of it. Fox News caters to an audience which prefers lies to truth.
> > > >
> > > > The US Food and Drug Adminstration stops greedy capitalist from making money out of selling products that actually damage the people who buy them.
> > > >
> > > > An intellectual equivalent would shut down Fox News immediately.
> > >
> > > Right. You libtards would have a hard-on if Fox was "shut down".
>
> > Probably not. It has knowingly lied to public - repeating Donald Trump's outright lies about the stolen election.
>
> every news channel has repeated misinformation at times. It would be oddly dishonest & foolish to pretend only one ever has.

https://apnews.com/article/fox-news-dominion-lawsuit-trial-trump-2020-0ac71f75acfacc52ea80b3e747fb0afe

Nobody else seems to have had to settle a lawsuit by paying out $800 million dollars. Fox News seems to have been unusually dishonest and foolish and
Tabby seems to be too dim to have noticed.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney