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https://news.yahoo.com/cigarette-sparks-explosion-inside-dodge-152500424.html

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Rick C.

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 by: Dean Hoffman - Thu, 28 Sep 2023 20:43 UTC

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 1:53:58 PM UTC-5, Ricky wrote:
> https://news.yahoo.com/cigarette-sparks-explosion-inside-dodge-152500424.html
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>
> --
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> Rick C.
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> - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

I wonder if the propane tank in the back seat was hooked to a grill.
A creative person would figure out how to make food on the go.

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 by: Eddy Lee - Thu, 28 Sep 2023 21:08 UTC

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 1:43:11 PM UTC-7, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 1:53:58 PM UTC-5, Ricky wrote:
> > https://news.yahoo.com/cigarette-sparks-explosion-inside-dodge-152500424.html
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Rick C.
> >
> > - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> I wonder if the propane tank in the back seat was hooked to a grill.
> A creative person would figure out how to make food on the go.

Or a generator. I was thinking about propane generator to charge my EV on the go. Of course, I won't be stupid enough to smoke inside.

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 by: Flyguy - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 20:42 UTC

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 11:53:58 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
> https://news.yahoo.com/cigarette-sparks-explosion-inside-dodge-152500424.html
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>
> --
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> Rick C.
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> - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

You might try actually reading your link:

"How could a cigarette cause so much destruction while sitting in a driveway? A propane tank was being stored in the back seat with the windows rolled up."

Are you saying that EVs are immune from leaking propane cylinders and lit cigarettes? If so I DON'T want to ride in your EV!

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 by: Anthony William Slom - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 06:09 UTC

On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 6:42:09 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 11:53:58 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
> > https://news.yahoo.com/cigarette-sparks-explosion-inside-dodge-152500424.html
>
> You might try actually reading your link:
>
> "How could a cigarette cause so much destruction while sitting in a driveway? A propane tank was being stored in the back seat with the windows rolled up."
>
> Are you saying that EVs are immune from leaking propane cylinders and lit cigarettes? If so I DON'T want to ride in your EV!

Sewage Sweeper might try to understand the link. Propane and heavier hydrocarbons burn in air - all it takes is an ignition source to get them burning..

Despite Sewage Sweeper senile delusions, electric vehicle batteries are less likely to release their stored energy unexpectedly, and any respectable battery monitoring system will give you plenty of advance warning. The likes of Sewage Sweeper wouldn't get the message and would ignore it, but that's the way you win a Darwin Award.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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 by: Cursitor Doom - Sun, 1 Oct 2023 12:49 UTC

On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:53:52 -0700 (PDT), Ricky
<gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

>https://news.yahoo.com/cigarette-sparks-explosion-inside-dodge-152500424.html

If I were you, I'd keep a club hammer handy inside your "nice, safe
EV" so you can smash a window and climb out when it burst into flames
and locks you inside. That's assuming you're not disabled and *can*
safely egress through a window in time, of course. Many older people
aside from the disabled can't and of course, neither can the obese.
EVs are not a bad choice for fit, young and slim escape artists with
quick reactions, though.

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 by: Anthony William Slom - Sun, 1 Oct 2023 13:30 UTC

On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 11:49:50 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:53:52 -0700 (PDT), Ricky
> <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >https://news.yahoo.com/cigarette-sparks-explosion-inside-dodge-152500424..html
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> If I were you, I'd keep a club hammer handy inside your "nice, safe EV" so you can smash a window and climb out when it burst into flames and locks you inside.

Why would it "burst into flames" or "lock you inside"?

Any sensible battery monitoring system will be monitoring the core temperature of the battery and is has to get to about 125C before it can go into thermal runaway if there's nickel in the electrode mix, about 160C if there is isn't. This is way higher than the normal operating temperature of the battery, and you will get a lot of warning before it gets anywhere near that.

The car will be able to stop people opening the doors from outside, and there may be child locks on the rear doors to stop children (and people far gone in senile dementia. like Cursitor Doom and Flyguy) getting out, but locking the front doors so you can't open them from inside would be insane.

> That's assuming you're not disabled and *can* safely egress through a window in time, of course.

Or would need to.

> Many older people aside from the disabled can't and of course, neither can the obese.

So you would design the car so that they could always get out, at least from the front.

> EVs are not a bad choice for fit, young and slim escape artists with quick reactions, though.

Cursitor Doom ideas on the subject are an interesting examples of the kind of lunacy right-wing nitwits can waste their time trotting out, but they really should be confined to textbooks on lunacy.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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 by: John Larkin - Sun, 1 Oct 2023 14:13 UTC

On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 13:49:38 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:53:52 -0700 (PDT), Ricky
><gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>https://news.yahoo.com/cigarette-sparks-explosion-inside-dodge-152500424.html
>
>
>If I were you, I'd keep a club hammer handy inside your "nice, safe
>EV" so you can smash a window and climb out when it burst into flames
>and locks you inside.

"Burst" is often more like "explodes." The good news is that the
passengers will die quickly.

>That's assuming you're not disabled and *can*
>safely egress through a window in time, of course. Many older people
>aside from the disabled can't and of course, neither can the obese.
>EVs are not a bad choice for fit, young and slim escape artists with
>quick reactions, though.

Yeah, you can accelerate at 0.5g and decelerate at 0.5g every block.
Female passengers won't like that, but who needs females?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bernardmarr/2023/09/28/artificial-intimacy-how-generative-ai-can-now-create-your-dream-girlfriend/?sh=d451fcf464af

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 by: Cursitor Doom - Sun, 1 Oct 2023 16:45 UTC

On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 07:13:52 -0700, John Larkin <jl@997arbor.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 13:49:38 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:53:52 -0700 (PDT), Ricky
>><gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>https://news.yahoo.com/cigarette-sparks-explosion-inside-dodge-152500424.html
>>
>>
>>If I were you, I'd keep a club hammer handy inside your "nice, safe
>>EV" so you can smash a window and climb out when it burst into flames
>>and locks you inside.
>
>"Burst" is often more like "explodes." The good news is that the
>passengers will die quickly.

Indeed. Hence the need for quick reactions!
I was trying not to alarm EV owners with stock in Tesla, like "Ricky"
(or whatever he's calling himself at the moment). People who've bought
stock in EV companies are obviously going to praise their products
from the rooftops. The truth is, however, that only the very ignorant
and the educationally sub-normal would buy an EV until the technology
(and the operating systems!) have been refined to the point where one
doesn't need the lives of a cat to feel safe in one. And then there's
the elephant in the room: what to do with the expired batteries.....

>>That's assuming you're not disabled and *can*
>>safely egress through a window in time, of course. Many older people
>>aside from the disabled can't and of course, neither can the obese.
>>EVs are not a bad choice for fit, young and slim escape artists with
>>quick reactions, though.
>
>Yeah, you can accelerate at 0.5g and decelerate at 0.5g every block.
>Female passengers won't like that, but who needs females?
>
>https://www.forbes.com/sites/bernardmarr/2023/09/28/artificial-intimacy-how-generative-ai-can-now-create-your-dream-girlfriend/?sh=d451fcf464af

Thoughtful of you to post a link which "Ricky" will no doubt find
useful. ;->
>

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 by: John Larkin - Sun, 1 Oct 2023 18:18 UTC

On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 17:45:17 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 07:13:52 -0700, John Larkin <jl@997arbor.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 13:49:38 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:53:52 -0700 (PDT), Ricky
>>><gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>https://news.yahoo.com/cigarette-sparks-explosion-inside-dodge-152500424.html
>>>
>>>
>>>If I were you, I'd keep a club hammer handy inside your "nice, safe
>>>EV" so you can smash a window and climb out when it burst into flames
>>>and locks you inside.
>>
>>"Burst" is often more like "explodes." The good news is that the
>>passengers will die quickly.
>
>Indeed. Hence the need for quick reactions!
>I was trying not to alarm EV owners with stock in Tesla, like "Ricky"
>(or whatever he's calling himself at the moment). People who've bought
>stock in EV companies are obviously going to praise their products
>from the rooftops. The truth is, however, that only the very ignorant
>and the educationally sub-normal would buy an EV until the technology
>(and the operating systems!) have been refined to the point where one
>doesn't need the lives of a cat to feel safe in one. And then there's
>the elephant in the room: what to do with the expired batteries.....
>
>>>That's assuming you're not disabled and *can*
>>>safely egress through a window in time, of course. Many older people
>>>aside from the disabled can't and of course, neither can the obese.
>>>EVs are not a bad choice for fit, young and slim escape artists with
>>>quick reactions, though.
>>
>>Yeah, you can accelerate at 0.5g and decelerate at 0.5g every block.
>>Female passengers won't like that, but who needs females?
>>
>>https://www.forbes.com/sites/bernardmarr/2023/09/28/artificial-intimacy-how-generative-ai-can-now-create-your-dream-girlfriend/?sh=d451fcf464af
>
>Thoughtful of you to post a link which "Ricky" will no doubt find
>useful. ;->
>>

Just trying to be helpful.

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 by: Ricky - Sun, 1 Oct 2023 20:05 UTC

On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 8:49:50 AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:53:52 -0700 (PDT), Ricky
> <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >https://news.yahoo.com/cigarette-sparks-explosion-inside-dodge-152500424..html
>
>
> If I were you, I'd keep a club hammer handy inside your "nice, safe
> EV" so you can smash a window and climb out when it burst into flames
> and locks you inside. That's assuming you're not disabled and *can*
> safely egress through a window in time, of course. Many older people
> aside from the disabled can't and of course, neither can the obese.
> EVs are not a bad choice for fit, young and slim escape artists with
> quick reactions, though.

So much ignorance in such a short post.

I hope you are never in an accident where the doors won't open. It is truly terrifying. But, you have no real understanding of what it's like. So, you imagine something that is totally disconnected from reality.

--

Rick C.

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

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 by: John Larkin - Sun, 1 Oct 2023 20:59 UTC

On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 17:45:17 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
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>On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 07:13:52 -0700, John Larkin <jl@997arbor.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 13:49:38 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:53:52 -0700 (PDT), Ricky
>>><gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>https://news.yahoo.com/cigarette-sparks-explosion-inside-dodge-152500424.html
>>>
>>>
>>>If I were you, I'd keep a club hammer handy inside your "nice, safe
>>>EV" so you can smash a window and climb out when it burst into flames
>>>and locks you inside.
>>
>>"Burst" is often more like "explodes." The good news is that the
>>passengers will die quickly.
>
>Indeed. Hence the need for quick reactions!
>I was trying not to alarm EV owners with stock in Tesla, like "Ricky"
>(or whatever he's calling himself at the moment). People who've bought
>stock in EV companies are obviously going to praise their products
>from the rooftops. The truth is, however, that only the very ignorant
>and the educationally sub-normal would buy an EV until the technology
>(and the operating systems!) have been refined to the point where one
>doesn't need the lives of a cat to feel safe in one. And then there's
>the elephant in the room: what to do with the expired batteries.....
>
>>>That's assuming you're not disabled and *can*
>>>safely egress through a window in time, of course. Many older people
>>>aside from the disabled can't and of course, neither can the obese.
>>>EVs are not a bad choice for fit, young and slim escape artists with
>>>quick reactions, though.
>>
>>Yeah, you can accelerate at 0.5g and decelerate at 0.5g every block.
>>Female passengers won't like that, but who needs females?
>>
>>https://www.forbes.com/sites/bernardmarr/2023/09/28/artificial-intimacy-how-generative-ai-can-now-create-your-dream-girlfriend/?sh=d451fcf464af
>
>Thoughtful of you to post a link which "Ricky" will no doubt find
>useful. ;->
>>

I need a AI girlfriend. My wife has battered me. [1]

[1] She baked us a Guinnness Cake, and I cleaned up, and I got black
goo on my arm.

Gotta make the icing now.

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 by: bitrex - Sun, 1 Oct 2023 21:35 UTC

On 9/28/2023 4:43 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 1:53:58 PM UTC-5, Ricky wrote:
>> https://news.yahoo.com/cigarette-sparks-explosion-inside-dodge-152500424.html
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Rick C.
>>
>> - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
>> - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
>
> I wonder if the propane tank in the back seat was hooked to a grill.
> A creative person would figure out how to make food on the go.

"Gunshot mods" are very popular with the young people in my area:

<https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/car-exhaust-pipe-gunfire-sound-i-team-new-york-city-brooklyn/1063002/>

I'm going to design an ICE engine tune mod such that every time you tap
the brakes it sounds like an AK-47 firing full-auto for about 30
seconds, at 120 dB inside the cabin.

Then there will be an added special feature such that every time you hit
the gas pedal the exhaust makes really wet fart noises, like the car has
a serious case of diarrhea.

The car's sound system will be modified to add bathroom-like grunts and
groans like "Unnnnnngggggghhhhhh oh god..<PLOP>" to add to the awesome
effect.

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 by: Anthony William Slom - Mon, 2 Oct 2023 03:50 UTC

On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 3:45:27 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 07:13:52 -0700, John Larkin <j...@997arbor.com>
> wrote:
> >On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 13:49:38 +0100, Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:53:52 -0700 (PDT), Ricky
> >><gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>https://news.yahoo.com/cigarette-sparks-explosion-inside-dodge-152500424.html
> >>
> >>
> >>If I were you, I'd keep a club hammer handy inside your "nice, safe
> >>EV" so you can smash a window and climb out when it burst into flames
> >>and locks you inside.
> >
> >"Burst" is often more like "explodes." The good news is that the passengers will die quickly.

Since they'd have to have have ignored lots of frequent and increasingly urgent warnings from the battery monitoring system to have got into the car in the first place, they'd have to be suicidal.

> Indeed. Hence the need for quick reactions!

The actual need is for enough sense not to use the car when the battery is clearly on it's ast legs and in urgent need of replacement.

> I was trying not to alarm EV owners with stock in Tesla, like "Ricky" (or whatever he's calling himself at the moment).

On the contrary you were spreading maliciious lies designed to devalue Telsa stock. It's a well known form of stock market fraud.,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_and_distort

> People who've bought stock in EV companies are obviously going to praise their products from the rooftops. The truth is, however, that only the very ignorant and the educationally sub-normal would buy an EV until the technology (and the operating systems!) have been refined to the point where one doesn't need the lives of a cat to feel safe in one.

Cursitor Doom may be "educationally sub-normal " to the point where he doesn't realise that this had already happened, but it's more likely that his passion for fatuous idiocies has lead him to espouse the idea that electric vehicle batteries blow up at random with out bothering to go through the tedious preliniaries of developing high self-leakage adn gettig hot enough to get clsoe to thermal runaway

> And then there's the elephant in the room: what to do with the expired batteries.....

You recycle them.

> >>That's assuming you're not disabled and *can* safely egress through a window in time, of course. Many older people aside from the disabled can't and of course, neither can the obese. EVs are not a bad choice for fit, young and slim escape artists with quick reactions, though.

Great advice if EV's behave the way Curistor Doom and Flyguy want to believe they do. Sadly., they don't.

> >Yeah, you can accelerate at 0.5g and decelerate at 0.5g every block.
> >Female passengers won't like that, but who needs females?
> >
> >https://www.forbes.com/sites/bernardmarr/2023/09/28/artificial-intimacy-how-generative-ai-can-now-create-your-dream-girlfriend/?sh=d451fcf464af
>
> Thoughtful of you to post a link which "Ricky" will no doubt find useful.. ;->

People who get off on unrealistic pornography may not see the point in having a flesh and blood sexual partner. Images may look good, but they don't fire up the other senses.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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