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* Re: Oxford University conference regarding Potential Infinity, March 11-12, 2024Kishore Foong Cheung
`* Re: Rebuffing Nym-Shifting NonsenseRoss Finlayson
 +- Re: Rebuffing Nym-Shifting NonsenseRoss Finlayson
 `* Re: Rebuffing Nym-Shifting NonsenseRocco Mai Pham
  `- Re: Hologrammatic Continuum Contents, Space-TimeRoss Finlayson

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 by: Kishore Foong Cheung - Sat, 10 Feb 2024 21:59 UTC

Ross Finlayson wrote:

> On 02/10/2024 01:09 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> "Nothing in physics denies the uniform elapse of time in empty space."
> -- Ceapa
>
> "Nothing in physics denies the uniform elapse of time in empty space."
> -- Gruyitch quoting Ceapa

completely nonsense. You can't have time elapsing in empty space. Time
elapsing implies Entropy, fucking stupid. Tell those Ceapa and another
guy, I said they are indolent stupid, knowing shit about physics etc. Tell
them, I sent you to tell that. You are fucking stoopid as well. What a
shame, ladies and gentlemen.

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 by: Ross Finlayson - Sun, 11 Feb 2024 01:23 UTC

On 02/10/2024 01:59 PM, Kishore Foong Cheung wrote:
> Ross Finlayson wrote:
>
>> On 02/10/2024 01:09 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>> "Nothing in physics denies the uniform elapse of time in empty space."
>> -- Ceapa
>>
>> "Nothing in physics denies the uniform elapse of time in empty space."
>> -- Gruyitch quoting Ceapa
>
> completely nonsense. You can't have time elapsing in empty space. Time
> elapsing implies Entropy, fucking stupid. Tell those Ceapa and another
> guy, I said they are indolent stupid, knowing shit about physics etc. Tell
> them, I sent you to tell that. You are fucking stoopid as well. What a
> shame, ladies and gentlemen.
>

There's nothing to see there, it moves along.

For example, the geodesy including it that's
instantaneously evaluated everywhere moves
right along in time. ...That includes it.

Hey if you're Chinese there's a curse,
"do lai lo mo", do you know it?
Don't repeat it.

I think you're not even Chinese,
just a nym-shifting troll trying to
look all informerative when really
that's just a sort-tempered person's
little wrong fact. Don't be causing trouble.

Hey you ever heard his one before,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbNrJWgG_24 .
It's Blackfoot's "Highway Song".
Then though you have to listen to Outlaws'
"Green Grass and High Tides Forever".
Maybe it's a little easier to digest
"Tom and Jerry's Uncle Pecos".

Do you know if anything's ever actually
even _in_ units of energy except potential energy?

Don't try and tell me about thermo 2'nd law,
I have a theory where information's asymptotically free.

Do you know Salam and Weinberg?
They have Nobels in physics.
They have a Nobel together.
It's about asymptotic freedom.

It's like "Where's Uncle Al", ....

Then for the theory of potential and actual infinity,
and the infinitely-divisible infinitely-divided an
Aristotle's continuum for Zeno's uniform motion,
in constant distance in constant time, you'll notice
it's quite all the Galilean.

So, the point is that's salient to students who
also already know it.

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 by: Ross Finlayson - Sun, 11 Feb 2024 02:00 UTC

On 02/10/2024 05:23 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> On 02/10/2024 01:59 PM, Kishore Foong Cheung wrote:
>> Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/10/2024 01:09 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>> "Nothing in physics denies the uniform elapse of time in empty space."
>>> -- Ceapa
>>>
>>> "Nothing in physics denies the uniform elapse of time in empty space."
>>> -- Gruyitch quoting Ceapa
>>
>> completely nonsense. You can't have time elapsing in empty space. Time
>> elapsing implies Entropy, fucking stupid. Tell those Ceapa and another
>> guy, I said they are indolent stupid, knowing shit about physics etc.
>> Tell
>> them, I sent you to tell that. You are fucking stoopid as well. What a
>> shame, ladies and gentlemen.
>>
>
>
> There's nothing to see there, it moves along.
>
> For example, the geodesy including it that's
> instantaneously evaluated everywhere moves
> right along in time. ...That includes it.
>
>
> Hey if you're Chinese there's a curse,
> "do lai lo mo", do you know it?
> Don't repeat it.
>
> I think you're not even Chinese,
> just a nym-shifting troll trying to
> look all informerative when really
> that's just a sort-tempered person's
> little wrong fact. Don't be causing trouble.
>
> Hey you ever heard his one before,
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbNrJWgG_24 .
> It's Blackfoot's "Highway Song".
> Then though you have to listen to Outlaws'
> "Green Grass and High Tides Forever".
> Maybe it's a little easier to digest
> "Tom and Jerry's Uncle Pecos".
>
> Do you know if anything's ever actually
> even _in_ units of energy except potential energy?
>
> Don't try and tell me about thermo 2'nd law,
> I have a theory where information's asymptotically free.
>
> Do you know Salam and Weinberg?
> They have Nobels in physics.
> They have a Nobel together.
> It's about asymptotic freedom.
>
>
> It's like "Where's Uncle Al", ....
>
>
> Then for the theory of potential and actual infinity,
> and the infinitely-divisible infinitely-divided an
> Aristotle's continuum for Zeno's uniform motion,
> in constant distance in constant time, you'll notice
> it's quite all the Galilean.
>
> So, the point is that's salient to students who
> also already know it.
>
>

These days you might say,
"it's ironic Salam and Weinberg
won a Nobel Prize together",
if it was for Peace.

Here it was for Physics,
and "asymptotic freedom" is one of the
most profound facts of physics, and
if you don't know it then you could
learn a lot, then, from it.

Wu wei / Xie Xie, I don't much pu tong hua,
where m'gong-n-gok Mer-ma is a
sort of Cantonese way of saying "American",
though I am sort of Mandarin, if I may never
actually be a Celestial, there are at least
three kinds of loh's, one of which is bu ren.

Or, wo mindzi xiao Lo-say-ja. I mean, I can try,
but my language is usually phonetic and
tonal phrasing results forced, though it
can be OK. ("OK: the most widely known
word in the world.")

Yeah I went and asked Kishore who's sort of
an Indian, and Fuung and Cheung who are
sort of opposite kinds of Chinese,
they never heard of you.

The Three Chang's are sort of traditional generals,
Chi'Na is a special place, I've never been.

So anyways, Zeno's arguments are the classical
exposition of continuous uniform motion
of continuous constant distance in continuous
uniform time, and, time-symmetry, is the only
symmetry remaining after charge and parity,
CPT, that has never been falsified.

In physics, ....

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 by: Rocco Mai Pham - Sun, 11 Feb 2024 16:09 UTC

Ross Finlayson wrote:

> On 02/10/2024 01:59 PM, Kishore Foong Cheung wrote:
>> Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>> On 02/10/2024 01:09 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>> "Nothing in physics denies the uniform elapse of time in empty space."
>>> -- Ceapa
>>> "Nothing in physics denies the uniform elapse of time in empty space."
>>> -- Gruyitch quoting Ceapa
>>
>> completely nonsense. You can't have time elapsing in empty space. Time
>> elapsing implies Entropy, fucking stupid. Tell those Ceapa and another
>> guy, I said they are indolent stupid, knowing shit about physics etc.
>> Tell them, I sent you to tell that. You are fucking stoopid as well.
>> What a shame, ladies and gentlemen.
>
> There's nothing to see there, it moves along.
> For example, the geodesy including it that's instantaneously evaluated
> everywhere moves right along in time. ...That includes it.

yet another indolent wannabe mathematician not knowing what time is. He
thinks is clocks.

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From: ross.a.f...@gmail.com (Ross Finlayson)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 11:38:11 -0800
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 by: Ross Finlayson - Sun, 11 Feb 2024 19:38 UTC

On 02/11/2024 08:09 AM, Rocco Mai Pham wrote:
> Ross Finlayson wrote:
>
>> On 02/10/2024 01:59 PM, Kishore Foong Cheung wrote:
>>> Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>>> On 02/10/2024 01:09 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>>> "Nothing in physics denies the uniform elapse of time in empty space."
>>>> -- Ceapa
>>>> "Nothing in physics denies the uniform elapse of time in empty space."
>>>> -- Gruyitch quoting Ceapa
>>>
>>> completely nonsense. You can't have time elapsing in empty space. Time
>>> elapsing implies Entropy, fucking stupid. Tell those Ceapa and another
>>> guy, I said they are indolent stupid, knowing shit about physics etc.
>>> Tell them, I sent you to tell that. You are fucking stoopid as well.
>>> What a shame, ladies and gentlemen.
>>
>> There's nothing to see there, it moves along.
>> For example, the geodesy including it that's instantaneously evaluated
>> everywhere moves right along in time. ...That includes it.
>
> yet another indolent wannabe mathematician not knowing what time is. He
> thinks is clocks.
>

The finest timepieces have a second-hand that sweeps.

Imagine there's one linear continuum.

So, the three dimensions of space sort of fold up
in the corners of infinity and infinitesimals,
and it rotates, so the coordinates of space are
always around.

Then, time, is as simply that evolved, with three space
dimensions on one side and a ray of time on the other.

Time goes back forever /
Space goes on forever /
Space goes on.

Then, its contents, "Space-Time", all just happen to live in that.

The notion of the "hologram", then, embedding the higher
dimensions in the one dimension, it's sort of a thing.
Then, how physics the theory is sort of tented out,
is first adding above "3+1" the signature, space-like and time-like,
sort of any number of dimensions to book-keep effects of
super-symmetry, so when you hear "10 dimensions in string theory",
it's really just "3x + 3y + 3z + t", dimensions, with basically
book-keeping reversions in those otherwise apiece,
explaining why the "combinatorial explosion of dimensions
in super-string theory" really is a matter of the
hologrammatic and holonomic, in terms of continuum mechanics.

Clasically of course it's "rigid rods are meters and clocks are time",
yet, here there's a "theory of sum potentials", which is real.

How about atoms? The basic idea is that atoms are Demokritean,
and they happen to be defined and modeled so great by electron physics,
then super-strings are just twice as small for "the grain of
continuum mechanics", then "open and closed super-strings"
are just the sort of "grainy or smooth space elements".

It's a continuum mechanics, ....

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