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* trying to buy Agentjohn larkin
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+* Re: trying to buy AgentCharlie+
|+- Re: trying to buy AgentJoe Gwinn
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| `* Re: trying to buy AgentMartin Rid
|  `* Re: trying to buy Agentjohn larkin
|   +- Re: trying to buy AgentJohn Smiht
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|   `* Re: trying to buy Agentupsidedown
|    `- Re: trying to buy Agentjohn larkin
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From: jl...@650pot.com (john larkin)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: trying to buy Agent
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2023 16:57:14 -0800
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 by: john larkin - Tue, 7 Nov 2023 00:57 UTC

I'm running the 30-day trial of newsreader Agent 8.

It keeps warning me that the trial is almost up. I keep trying to buy
it and their order page keeps crashing. I leave voicemails and nobody
responds.

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From: ali...@comet.invalid (Jan Panteltje)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: trying to buy Agent
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2023 05:56:17 GMT
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 by: Jan Panteltje - Tue, 7 Nov 2023 05:56 UTC

On a sunny day (Mon, 06 Nov 2023 16:57:14 -0800) it happened john larkin
<jl@650pot.com> wrote in <fk2jkilsf5u5pdei1dg789eem7h2q4qo92@4ax.com>:

>I'm running the 30-day trial of newsreader Agent 8.
>
>It keeps warning me that the trial is almost up. I keep trying to buy
>it and their order page keeps crashing. I leave voicemails and nobody
>responds.
>

I have been using my newsreader NewsFleX since 1998 or so.
Now runs on a Raspberry Pi 4B 8 GB, use it to write this.

Only drawback is the libforms GUI library it uses,
was degraded by the maintainer, so I use an old version
that has some cut and paste problems on the raspi,
for the rest OK.
As long as te standards stay the same it will keep running.
Have posting going back to

raspberrypi: ~/.NewsFleX/nntp.aioe.org # l
total 5820
drwxr-xr-x 34 root root 4096 Jun 14 2006 Jun-2006/
drwxr-xr-x 34 root root 4096 Jul 21 2006 Aug-2006/
drwxr-xr-x 34 root root 4096 Sep 30 2006 Sep-2006/
drwxr-xr-x 34 root root 4096 Oct 23 2006 Oct-2006/
......

Older postings upstairs perhaps in the old 486 PC..?
x86 code here:
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/index.html

Did not make a release for Raspberry yet, if anybody cares I can make one with the old libforms I renamed it libzorms so as not
to conflict with any recent libforms version.
No idea of the new libforms is OK, I had an email exchange with the maintainer about middle mouse and right mouse functionality he removed.
BUY a newsreader??
What world do you live in???
There must be several open source ones.

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 by: Charlie+ - Tue, 7 Nov 2023 07:33 UTC

On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 16:57:14 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote as
underneath :

>I'm running the 30-day trial of newsreader Agent 8.
>
>It keeps warning me that the trial is almost up. I keep trying to buy
>it and their order page keeps crashing. I leave voicemails and nobody
>responds.

Look on group
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent
Thread: Agent abandonware? 12/9/2023
There is a registration given there! Good luck C+

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From: joegw...@comcast.net (Joe Gwinn)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: trying to buy Agent
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2023 09:54:08 -0500
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 by: Joe Gwinn - Tue, 7 Nov 2023 14:54 UTC

On Tue, 07 Nov 2023 07:33:52 +0000, Charlie+ <charlie@xxx.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 16:57:14 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote as
>underneath :
>
>>I'm running the 30-day trial of newsreader Agent 8.
>>
>>It keeps warning me that the trial is almost up. I keep trying to buy
>>it and their order page keeps crashing. I leave voicemails and nobody
>>responds.
>
>Look on group
>alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent
>Thread: Agent abandonware? 12/9/2023
>There is a registration given there! Good luck C+

This is the place to go, the only place that works.

Joe Gwinn

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 by: john larkin - Tue, 7 Nov 2023 20:43 UTC

On Tue, 07 Nov 2023 07:33:52 +0000, Charlie+ <charlie@xxx.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 16:57:14 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote as
>underneath :
>
>>I'm running the 30-day trial of newsreader Agent 8.
>>
>>It keeps warning me that the trial is almost up. I keep trying to buy
>>it and their order page keeps crashing. I leave voicemails and nobody
>>responds.
>
>Look on group
>alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent
>Thread: Agent abandonware? 12/9/2023
>There is a registration given there! Good luck C+

Thanks.

My 30-day trial of Agent 8 is theoretically expired today.

What a hassle!

I'd be happy to run my old v3.1, which I have the reg codes for, but
it doesn't seem to work in Windows11.

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 by: Martin Rid - Tue, 7 Nov 2023 23:37 UTC

john larkin <jl@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
> On Tue, 07 Nov 2023 07:33:52 +0000, Charlie+ <charlie@xxx.net> wrote:>On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 16:57:14 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote as>underneath :>>>I'm running the 30-day trial of newsreader Agent 8.>>>>It keeps warning me that the trial is almost up. I keep trying to buy>>it and their order page keeps crashing. I leave voicemails and nobody>>responds.>>Look on group >alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent>Thread: Agent abandonware? 12/9/2023>There is a registration given there! Good luck C+Thanks.My 30-day trial of Agent 8 is theoretically expired today.What a hassle!I'd be happy to run my old v3.1, which I have the reg codes for, butit doesn't seem to work in Windows11.

Try a different browser. Some have had luck calling.
Cherrs
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 by: john larkin - Tue, 7 Nov 2023 23:44 UTC

On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 18:37:51 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid
<martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:

>john larkin <jl@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
>> On Tue, 07 Nov 2023 07:33:52 +0000, Charlie+ <charlie@xxx.net> wrote:>On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 16:57:14 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote as>underneath :>>>I'm running the 30-day trial of newsreader Agent 8.>>>>It keeps warning me that the trial is almost up. I keep trying to buy>>it and their order page keeps crashing. I leave voicemails and nobody>>responds.>>Look on group >alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent>Thread: Agent abandonware? 12/9/2023>There is a registration given there! Good luck C+Thanks.My 30-day trial of Agent 8 is theoretically expired today.What a hassle!I'd be happy to run my old v3.1, which I have the reg codes for, butit doesn't seem to work in Windows11.
>
>Try a different browser. Some have had luck calling.
>Cherrs

One weird thing about Agent8 is that if I view a post that has an
embedded web link, my browser opens that link immediately, even if I
don't click on it.

I'd ask for support, but there isn't any.

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 by: John Smiht - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 00:55 UTC

On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 5:44:50 PM UTC-6, john larkin wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 18:37:51 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid
> <martin...@verison.net> wrote:
>
> >john larkin <j...@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
> >> On Tue, 07 Nov 2023 07:33:52 +0000, Charlie+ <cha...@xxx.net> wrote:>On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 16:57:14 -0800, john larkin <j...@650pot.com> wrote as>underneath :>>>I'm running the 30-day trial of newsreader Agent 8.>>>>It keeps warning me that the trial is almost up. I keep trying to buy>>it and their order page keeps crashing. I leave voicemails and nobody>>responds.>>Look on group >alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent>Thread: Agent abandonware? 12/9/2023>There is a registration given there! Good luck C+Thanks.My 30-day trial of Agent 8 is theoretically expired today.What a hassle!I'd be happy to run my old v3.1, which I have the reg codes for, butit doesn't seem to work in Windows11.
> >
> >Try a different browser. Some have had luck calling.
> >Cherrs
> One weird thing about Agent8 is that if I view a post that has an
> embedded web link, my browser opens that link immediately, even if I
> don't click on it.
>
> I'd ask for support, but there isn't any.

Bad! Never open a link unless you really want to do so. Get rid of Agent! I've heard that sometimes just opening a Web site can infect your computer.

Good luck!

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 by: Charlie+ - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 06:52 UTC

On Tue, 07 Nov 2023 15:44:35 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote as
underneath :

snip
>One weird thing about Agent8 is that if I view a post that has an
>embedded web link, my browser opens that link immediately, even if I
>don't click on it.
>
>I'd ask for support, but there isn't any.
>
Plenty of support on that newsgroup if you ask - prolly someone will
know how to switch off any behaviour you dont like! C+

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 by: upsided...@downunder.com - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 08:32 UTC

On Tue, 07 Nov 2023 15:44:35 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:

>One weird thing about Agent8 is that if I view a post that has an
>embedded web link, my browser opens that link immediately, even if I
>don't click on it.

Dud you try to toggle

View | Display HTML contents

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 by: john larkin - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 18:28 UTC

On Wed, 08 Nov 2023 10:32:47 +0200, upsidedown@downunder.com wrote:

>On Tue, 07 Nov 2023 15:44:35 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
>
>>One weird thing about Agent8 is that if I view a post that has an
>>embedded web link, my browser opens that link immediately, even if I
>>don't click on it.
>
>Dud you try to toggle
>
>View | Display HTML contents
>

I'll try that. Thanks.

I was looking in the gigantic tools/options for a switch.

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 by: John Robertson - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 14:24 UTC

On 2023/11/06 4:57 p.m., john larkin wrote:
> I'm running the 30-day trial of newsreader Agent 8.
>
> It keeps warning me that the trial is almost up. I keep trying to buy
> it and their order page keeps crashing. I leave voicemails and nobody
> responds.
>

Thunderbird email and newsgroup reader does work very well with
Eternal-September (E-S) or paid usenet hosts.

Currently the admin of E-S is blocking a wave of spam from Google Groups
- which is really appreciated!

John :-#)#
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(Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
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 by: john larkin - Thu, 9 Nov 2023 21:29 UTC

On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 16:57:14 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:

>I'm running the 30-day trial of newsreader Agent 8.
>
>It keeps warning me that the trial is almost up. I keep trying to buy
>it and their order page keeps crashing. I leave voicemails and nobody
>responds.

I just got an email from Ana at Forte. She apologized for the hassle
and comp'd me an auth code. I'd still be happy to pay for it.

So Agent is still sort of alive.

The 30-day trial has expired but it keeps working, so I'll use the
auth code if it stops.

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 by: boB - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 18:53 UTC

On Thu, 09 Nov 2023 13:29:50 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 16:57:14 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
>
>>I'm running the 30-day trial of newsreader Agent 8.
>>
>>It keeps warning me that the trial is almost up. I keep trying to buy
>>it and their order page keeps crashing. I leave voicemails and nobody
>>responds.
>
>I just got an email from Ana at Forte. She apologized for the hassle
>and comp'd me an auth code. I'd still be happy to pay for it.
>
>So Agent is still sort of alive.
>
>The 30-day trial has expired but it keeps working, so I'll use the
>auth code if it stops.

I wish they would add some better/more message filtering features so I
might be able to squash some of this sporge in the group.

For instance, any thread started by a scammer/spammer should be able
to be deleted if it has responders from our normal group so I don't
have to see useless (to me) responses show up.

I'm not sure how much Agent is being worked on.

boB

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 by: Jeroen Belleman - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 19:33 UTC

On 11/10/23 19:53, boB wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Nov 2023 13:29:50 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 16:57:14 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm running the 30-day trial of newsreader Agent 8.
>>>
>>> It keeps warning me that the trial is almost up. I keep trying to buy
>>> it and their order page keeps crashing. I leave voicemails and nobody
>>> responds.
>>
>> I just got an email from Ana at Forte. She apologized for the hassle
>> and comp'd me an auth code. I'd still be happy to pay for it.
>>
>> So Agent is still sort of alive.
>>
>> The 30-day trial has expired but it keeps working, so I'll use the
>> auth code if it stops.
>
>
> I wish they would add some better/more message filtering features so I
> might be able to squash some of this sporge in the group.
>
> For instance, any thread started by a scammer/spammer should be able
> to be deleted if it has responders from our normal group so I don't
> have to see useless (to me) responses show up. [...]

I *do* wish people would refrain from reacting to these
spammers. If they'd only ignore them, the S/N of this group
would improve vastly.

Jeroen Bellemam

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 by: Joe Gwinn - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 19:50 UTC

On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 10:53:31 -0800, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Nov 2023 13:29:50 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 16:57:14 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I'm running the 30-day trial of newsreader Agent 8.
>>>
>>>It keeps warning me that the trial is almost up. I keep trying to buy
>>>it and their order page keeps crashing. I leave voicemails and nobody
>>>responds.
>>
>>I just got an email from Ana at Forte. She apologized for the hassle
>>and comp'd me an auth code. I'd still be happy to pay for it.
>>
>>So Agent is still sort of alive.
>>
>>The 30-day trial has expired but it keeps working, so I'll use the
>>auth code if it stops.
>
>
>I wish they would add some better/more message filtering features so I
>might be able to squash some of this sporge in the group.
>
>For instance, any thread started by a scammer/spammer should be able
>to be deleted if it has responders from our normal group so I don't
>have to see useless (to me) responses show up.

What could work is to look for diagrams and trigrams that are common
in whatever that language is but are rare elsewhere, and have a regex
rule that counts such n-grams - block if too many are found.

>I'm not sure how much Agent is being worked on.

Basically, not at all. The only real support is the Usenet group
mentioned earlier. There are threads on developing just such regex
rules there.

Joe Gwinn

Joe Gwinn

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 by: Robert Roland - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:51 UTC

On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 10:53:31 -0800, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:

>any thread started by a scammer/spammer should be able
>to be deleted

The "Ignore thread" does almost that. It marks the messages as read,
but does not delete the headers. When you press space to read the next
message, you will skip those messages, but since the headers are still
available, you still have the option to manually retrieve them should
you want to.

The name may be a bit misleading. Only that message and its follow-ups
get affected by the filter.
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