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* killing google group postsjohn larkin
+* Re: killing google group postsLasse Langwadt Christensen
|+- Re: killing google group postsWandere
|`* Re: killing google group postsMike Monett VE3BTI
| `* Re: killing google group postsBob Engelhardt
|  `- Re: killing google group postsArie de Muijnck
+- Re: killing google group postsboB
+* Re: killing google group postsboB
|+- Re: killing google group postsDan Purgert
|`- Re: killing google group postsjohn larkin
+* Re:killing google group postsMartin Rid
|`* Re: killing google group postsjohn larkin
| `* Re: killing google group postsboB
|  `* Re: killing google group postsjohn larkin
|   +* Re: killing google group postsBill Sloman
|   |`* Re: killing google group postsJohn Smiht
|   | +* Re: killing google group postsJohn Larkin
|   | |`- Re: killing google group postsBill Sloman
|   | `- Re: killing google group postsBill Sloman
|   +- Re: killing google group postsBertrand Sindri
|   `* Re: killing google group postsJoe Gwinn
|    `* Re: killing google group postsJohn Larkin
|     `- Re: killing google group postsFred Bloggs
`* Re: killing google group postsFred Bloggs
 `* Re: killing google group postsJohn Smiht
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 by: john larkin - Tue, 5 Dec 2023 18:28 UTC

The agent8 kill filter

message-id: googlegroups.com

elimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it will
eliminate some semi-legit posts.

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 by: Lasse Langwadt Chris - Tue, 5 Dec 2023 19:24 UTC

tirsdag den 5. december 2023 kl. 19.29.07 UTC+1 skrev john larkin:
> The agent8 kill filter
>
> message-id: googlegroups.com
>
> elimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing.

I wonder if google has abandoned usenet, previous spam storms usually stopped in a day or two

>I guess it will
> eliminate some semi-legit posts.

I use googlegroups

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 by: boB - Tue, 5 Dec 2023 20:14 UTC

On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 10:28:56 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:

>The agent8 kill filter
>
> message-id: googlegroups.com
>
>elimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it will
>eliminate some semi-legit posts.

It worked !

I think it deleted the post that followed yours though.

boB

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 by: boB - Tue, 5 Dec 2023 20:26 UTC

On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 10:28:56 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:

>The agent8 kill filter
>
> message-id: googlegroups.com
>
>elimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it will
>eliminate some semi-legit posts.

Do you know if there is a way to filter using a wile card ? (*)

I don't see anything about it in Agent 8 help but I do se some logic
like AND and NOT etc.

Maybe Google or ChatGPT has some answers.

Seems that sporge is extremely hard to filter.

Or maybe there is a way to approve certain from: names ?
That might be handy.

boB

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 by: Dan Purgert - Tue, 5 Dec 2023 20:43 UTC

On 2023-12-05, boB wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 10:28:56 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
>
>>The agent8 kill filter
>>
>> message-id: googlegroups.com
>>
>>elimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it will
>>eliminate some semi-legit posts.
>
> Do you know if there is a way to filter using a wile card ? (*)

Depends on your newsreader. Mine (slrn) allows regex matches (which
are, if I understand the documentation correctly, relatively closely
compatible to PCRE)

>
> I don't see anything about it in Agent 8 help but I do se some logic
> like AND and NOT etc.

Quick spin thru the (awful) FAQ seems like "no".

> Or maybe there is a way to approve certain from: names ?
> That might be handy.

Really depends on what limitations your newsreader has ... I couldn't
find much in the way of useful documentation for "(Forte) Agent8"; seems
it's more geared towards obtaining binaries rather than general
communication of "news".

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 by: john larkin - Tue, 5 Dec 2023 20:46 UTC

On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 13:26:58 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 10:28:56 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
>
>>The agent8 kill filter
>>
>> message-id: googlegroups.com
>>
>>elimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it will
>>eliminate some semi-legit posts.
>
>Do you know if there is a way to filter using a wile card ? (*)
>
>I don't see anything about it in Agent 8 help but I do se some logic
>like AND and NOT etc.
>
>Maybe Google or ChatGPT has some answers.
>
>Seems that sporge is extremely hard to filter.
>
>Or maybe there is a way to approve certain from: names ?
>That might be handy.
>
>boB
>
>

Agent has a complex filter command syntax, regular expressions and
such, that I don't have the energy to understand and use.

It may be possible to op-in some google posts, based on poster's name,
but I don't know how.

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 by: Martin Rid - Tue, 5 Dec 2023 20:51 UTC

john larkin <jl@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
> The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts.

Works for me
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 by: john larkin - Tue, 5 Dec 2023 20:58 UTC

On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid
<martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:

>john larkin <jl@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
>> The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts.
>
>Works for me

What usenet snobs we are!

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 by: boB - Tue, 5 Dec 2023 21:56 UTC

On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:58:17 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid
><martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:
>
>>john larkin <jl@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
>>> The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts.
>>
>>Works for me
>
>What usenet snobs we are!

Found a good tutorial on using regular expressions in AGENT filters.

https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/MVlCzh4Z/agent-regular-expression-filter

It's just an archive from the agent group. Some good examples
explained pretty well.

I'll be playing with this a bit. Hopefully I come up with something
useful

boB

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 by: Wandere - Tue, 5 Dec 2023 05:53 UTC

Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
>tirsdag den 5. december 2023 kl. 19.29.07 UTC+1 skrev john larkin:
>> The agent8 kill filter
>>
>> message-id: googlegroups.com
>>
>> elimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing.

>I wonder if google has abandoned usenet, previous spam storms usually stopped in a >day or two

Google might be dealing with it as part of this process.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/11/inactive-google-account-deletions-start-december-1/

So it might take a while.

>>I guess it will
>> eliminate some semi-legit posts.

>I use googlegroups

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 by: john larkin - Tue, 5 Dec 2023 22:55 UTC

On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:56:42 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:58:17 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid
>><martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:
>>
>>>john larkin <jl@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
>>>> The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts.
>>>
>>>Works for me
>>
>>What usenet snobs we are!
>
>
>Found a good tutorial on using regular expressions in AGENT filters.
>
>https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/MVlCzh4Z/agent-regular-expression-filter
>
>It's just an archive from the agent group. Some good examples
>explained pretty well.
>
>I'll be playing with this a bit. Hopefully I come up with something
>useful
>
>boB

It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to
post.

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 by: Mike Monett VE3BTI - Tue, 5 Dec 2023 23:06 UTC

Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

> tirsdag den 5. december 2023 kl. 19.29.07 UTC+1 skrev john larkin:
>> The agent8 kill filter
>>
>> message-id: googlegroups.com
>>
>> elimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing.
>
> I wonder if google has abandoned usenet, previous spam storms usually
> stopped in a day or two
>
>>I guess it will
>> eliminate some semi-legit posts.
>
> I use googlegroups

I use XNEWS and a PLONK file. I see very little new spam.

There are 349 entries in my PLONK file, but most of them are years old. I
should clean them out by erasing the file and starting over.

I have tried most of the news clients and soon gave up on them. I am very
happy with XNEWS

--
MRM

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Tue, 5 Dec 2023 23:11 UTC

On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 1:29:07 PM UTC-5, john larkin wrote:
> The agent8 kill filter
>
> message-id: googlegroups.com
>
> elimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it will
> eliminate some semi-legit posts.

I spam reported over a 1,000 of those things from within google groups, they went back as far as mid-November. Google makes it real easy to do a group spam report for each 30-line page. You just select the whole page and then de-select the very small number of real posts, usually none, on the page. Then press report symbol. I thought it would clean up the display but it didn't. In place of the spam post they have an italicized message about why the post is hidden, so the display is still a wasteland.

Also inadvertently discovered Google won't allow me to report my own post as spam. Must cause their report collection bot to flip out.

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 by: Bill Sloman - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 01:44 UTC

On 6/12/2023 9:55 am, john larkin wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:56:42 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:58:17 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid
>>> <martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> john larkin <jl@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
>>>>> The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts.
>>>>
>>>> Works for me
>>>
>>> What usenet snobs we are!
>>
>>
>> Found a good tutorial on using regular expressions in AGENT filters.
>>
>> https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/MVlCzh4Z/agent-regular-expression-filter
>>
>> It's just an archive from the agent group. Some good examples
>> explained pretty well.
>>
>> I'll be playing with this a bit. Hopefully I come up with something
>> useful
>
> It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to post.

Sadly, both John Larkin and "a a" appear to be real. "Real" doesn't mean
constructive, well-informed or useful.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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 by: John Smiht - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 02:46 UTC

On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 7:44:19 PM UTC-6, Bill Sloman wrote:
> On 6/12/2023 9:55 am, john larkin wrote:
> > On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:56:42 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:58:17 -0800, john larkin <j...@650pot.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid
> >>> <martin...@verison.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> john larkin <j...@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
> >>>>> The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts.
> >>>>
> >>>> Works for me
> >>>
> >>> What usenet snobs we are!
> >>
> >>
> >> Found a good tutorial on using regular expressions in AGENT filters.
> >>
> >> https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/MVlCzh4Z/agent-regular-expression-filter
> >>
> >> It's just an archive from the agent group. Some good examples
> >> explained pretty well.
> >>
> >> I'll be playing with this a bit. Hopefully I come up with something
> >> useful
> >
> > It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to post.
> Sadly, both John Larkin and "a a" appear to be real. "Real" doesn't mean
> constructive, well-informed or useful.
>
> --
> Bill Sloman, Sydney

Just had to get another jab in, didn't ya?

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 by: John Smiht - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 02:48 UTC

On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 5:12:03 PM UTC-6, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 1:29:07 PM UTC-5, john larkin wrote:
> > The agent8 kill filter
> >
> > message-id: googlegroups.com
> >
> > elimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it will
> > eliminate some semi-legit posts.
> I spam reported over a 1,000 of those things from within google groups, they went back as far as mid-November. Google makes it real easy to do a group spam report for each 30-line page. You just select the whole page and then de-select the very small number of real posts, usually none, on the page.. Then press report symbol. I thought it would clean up the display but it didn't. In place of the spam post they have an italicized message about why the post is hidden, so the display is still a wasteland.

Yes, but it is much easier to pick out the listed posts you deselected, don't you think?
> Also inadvertently discovered Google won't allow me to report my own post as spam. Must cause their report collection bot to flip out.

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 by: John Larkin - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 03:20 UTC

On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 18:46:08 -0800 (PST), John Smiht
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>On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 7:44:19?PM UTC-6, Bill Sloman wrote:
>> On 6/12/2023 9:55 am, john larkin wrote:
>> > On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:56:42 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:58:17 -0800, john larkin <j...@650pot.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid
>> >>> <martin...@verison.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> john larkin <j...@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
>> >>>>> The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Works for me
>> >>>
>> >>> What usenet snobs we are!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Found a good tutorial on using regular expressions in AGENT filters.
>> >>
>> >> https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/MVlCzh4Z/agent-regular-expression-filter
>> >>
>> >> It's just an archive from the agent group. Some good examples
>> >> explained pretty well.
>> >>
>> >> I'll be playing with this a bit. Hopefully I come up with something
>> >> useful
>> >
>> > It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to post.
>> Sadly, both John Larkin and "a a" appear to be real. "Real" doesn't mean
>> constructive, well-informed or useful.
>>
>> --
>> Bill Sloman, Sydney
>
>Just had to get another jab in, didn't ya?

It's clearly pathological. Sad. Just ignore him.

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 by: Bertrand Sindri - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 03:34 UTC

john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
> It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to
> post.

A decent newsreader will allow you to do exactly this. Note, I don't
know if ForteAgent has any of this, as I don't use it.

A deceent newsreader implements "kill files" not as a binary
"kill/keep" filter but rather as a scoring filter. New articles start
out with an initial score (say zero points) and any "kill filters" they
trigger subtract points, and any "select filters" they trigger add
points. The net points value after all the matching kill/select
filters have triggered then determines whether you see the article
highlighted to draw your attention, as a normal new post, or hidden
because you don't want to see it.

So what you would do is add a general kill filter on the google groups
User-Agent header, initially subtracting points from everything from
google groups and hiding everything from google groups.

Then you would add explicit "keep" (select) filters for user names
(From: headers) for users from google groups that you do want to see,
which would then "undo" the killing done by the general kill filter,
but just for those users for which you added the explicit filters.

The disadvantage is you have to already know which users you want to
see and/or be on the lookout for others quoting users you did not see,
and updating your rules to "expose" those users to your view.

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 by: Bob Engelhardt - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 03:54 UTC

On 12/5/2023 6:06 PM, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote:
> I use XNEWS and a PLONK file. I see very little new spam.
>
>[...]

Wait! You aren't seeing the 300 or so new daily garbage posts? Mostly
eastern languages, although today was Roman alphabet. SED and RCM have
been the most affected ones that I read. The ones with Subjects like:
"✅MEGAHOKI88 | ✅MEGAHOKI88 ASIA | ✅MEGAHOKI88 LOGIN | ✅MEGAHOKI88 SLOT |
✅MEGAHOKI88 LINK ALTERNATIF | ✅LINK ALTERNATIF MEGAHOKI88 | ✅LINK
MEGAHOKI88 LINK GACOR"

It's easy enough to Select All (CTRL-A) & Ignore (K). Except for the
few posts that are legitimate and have to be id'ed.

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 by: Arie de Muijnck - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 10:18 UTC

On 2023-12-06 04:54, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
> On 12/5/2023 6:06 PM, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote:
>> I use XNEWS and a PLONK file. I see very little new spam.
>>
>> [...]
>
> Wait!  You aren't seeing the 300 or so new daily garbage posts?  Mostly eastern languages, although today was Roman alphabet.  SED and RCM have been the most affected ones that I read.  The ones with Subjects like:
> "✅MEGAHOKI88 | ✅MEGAHOKI88 ASIA | ✅MEGAHOKI88 LOGIN | ✅MEGAHOKI88 SLOT | ✅MEGAHOKI88 LINK ALTERNATIF | ✅LINK ALTERNATIF MEGAHOKI88 | ✅LINK MEGAHOKI88 LINK GACOR"
>
> It's easy enough to Select All (CTRL-A) & Ignore (K).  Except for the few posts that are legitimate and have to be id'ed.

It depends on the provider.
I tried the 'paid' KPN.nl (comes with my internet connection) which passes all spam.
Now I use the free provider news.eternal-september.org which removes all the spam.
Maybe also everything else posted through google groups - mostly clueless stuff anyway.

Arie

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 by: Bill Sloman - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:26 UTC

On 6/12/2023 1:46 pm, John Smiht wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 7:44:19 PM UTC-6, Bill Sloman wrote:
>> On 6/12/2023 9:55 am, john larkin wrote:
>>> On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:56:42 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:58:17 -0800, john larkin <j...@650pot.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid
>>>>> <martin...@verison.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> john larkin <j...@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
>>>>>>> The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Works for me
>>>>>
>>>>> What usenet snobs we are!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Found a good tutorial on using regular expressions in AGENT filters.
>>>>
>>>> https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/MVlCzh4Z/agent-regular-expression-filter
>>>>
>>>> It's just an archive from the agent group. Some good examples
>>>> explained pretty well.
>>>>
>>>> I'll be playing with this a bit. Hopefully I come up with something
>>>> useful
>>>
>>> It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to post.
>> Sadly, both John Larkin and "a a" appear to be real. "Real" doesn't mean
>> constructive, well-informed or useful.
>
> Just had to get another jab in, didn't ya?

My mistake. Sadly, John Larkin, John Smiht and "a a" all appear to be
real. "Real" doesn't mean constructive, well-informed or useful.

-- '
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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 by: Bill Sloman - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:33 UTC

On 6/12/2023 2:20 pm, John Larkin wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 18:46:08 -0800 (PST), John Smiht
> <utube.jocjo@xoxy.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 7:44:19?PM UTC-6, Bill Sloman wrote:
>>> On 6/12/2023 9:55 am, john larkin wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:56:42 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:58:17 -0800, john larkin <j...@650pot.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid
>>>>>> <martin...@verison.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> john larkin <j...@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
>>>>>>>> The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Works for me
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What usenet snobs we are!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Found a good tutorial on using regular expressions in AGENT filters.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/MVlCzh4Z/agent-regular-expression-filter
>>>>>
>>>>> It's just an archive from the agent group. Some good examples
>>>>> explained pretty well.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll be playing with this a bit. Hopefully I come up with something
>>>>> useful
>>>>
>>>> It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to post.
>>>
>>> Sadly, both John Larkin and "a a" appear to be real. "Real" doesn't mean
>>> constructive, well-informed or useful.
>>
>> Just had to get another jab in, didn't ya?
>
> It's clearly pathological. Sad. Just ignore him.

John Larkin expects to be flattered. He clearly imagines that he is
perfect just the way he is, so critical comments can only be malicious
insults. That's a pretty pathological state.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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 by: Joe Gwinn - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 14:29 UTC

On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:55:29 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:56:42 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:58:17 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
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>>><martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>john larkin <jl@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
>>>>> The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts.
>>>>
>>>>Works for me
>>>
>>>What usenet snobs we are!
>>
>>
>>Found a good tutorial on using regular expressions in AGENT filters.
>>
>><https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/MVlCzh4Z/agent-regular-expression-filter>
>>
>>It's just an archive from the agent group. Some good examples
>>explained pretty well.
>>
>>I'll be playing with this a bit. Hopefully I come up with something
>>useful
>>
>>boB
>
>It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to
>post.

This ought to be possible if one puts a white list rule (that also
stops further rule processing) before the kill google groups filter.

Joe Gwinn

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 15:38 UTC

On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 9:48:42 PM UTC-5, John Smiht wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 5:12:03 PM UTC-6, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 1:29:07 PM UTC-5, john larkin wrote:
> > > The agent8 kill filter
> > >
> > > message-id: googlegroups.com
> > >
> > > elimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it will
> > > eliminate some semi-legit posts.
> > I spam reported over a 1,000 of those things from within google groups, they went back as far as mid-November. Google makes it real easy to do a group spam report for each 30-line page. You just select the whole page and then de-select the very small number of real posts, usually none, on the page. Then press report symbol. I thought it would clean up the display but it didn't. In place of the spam post they have an italicized message about why the post is hidden, so the display is still a wasteland.
> Yes, but it is much easier to pick out the listed posts you deselected, don't you think?

My google groups is almost all spam per page, with maybe 0-3 real posts. Each page is 30 posts. So it's much easier to select the whole page and then deselect the 0-3 real posts. You hit the report spam icon, and the whole selected bunch gets reported at one time. It seems to be working, I didn't see a one new post of that garbage I reported yesterday. There were about 60 brand new spam authors today, and they were all reported the same way. It takes under a minute to get rid of that many.

> > Also inadvertently discovered Google won't allow me to report my own post as spam. Must cause their report collection bot to flip out.

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From: jl...@997PotHill.com (John Larkin)
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Subject: Re: killing google group posts
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 08:05:32 -0800
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 by: John Larkin - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 16:05 UTC

On Wed, 06 Dec 2023 09:29:12 -0500, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:55:29 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:56:42 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:58:17 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid
>>>><martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>john larkin <jl@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
>>>>>> The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts.
>>>>>
>>>>>Works for me
>>>>
>>>>What usenet snobs we are!
>>>
>>>
>>>Found a good tutorial on using regular expressions in AGENT filters.
>>>
>>><https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/MVlCzh4Z/agent-regular-expression-filter>
>>>
>>>It's just an archive from the agent group. Some good examples
>>>explained pretty well.
>>>
>>>I'll be playing with this a bit. Hopefully I come up with something
>>>useful
>>>
>>>boB
>>
>>It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to
>>post.
>
>This ought to be possible if one puts a white list rule (that also
>stops further rule processing) before the kill google groups filter.
>
>Joe Gwinn

Maybe Agent8 can do that. I don't have time to figure that out right
now.

I did ping Supernews and they claim to be working on the spam issue.


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