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* PC: the goat from AtlantisDD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves
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 by: DD'eDeN aka not - Tue, 31 May 2022 00:13 UTC

https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-extremely-interesting-animals-that-unfortunately-went-extinct?ch=10&oid=116876061&share=4f25f029&srid=RPhZF&target_type=question

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 by: DD'eDeN aka not - Tue, 31 May 2022 02:12 UTC

On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 8:13:01 PM UTC-4, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
> https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-extremely-interesting-animals-that-unfortunately-went-extinct?ch=10&oid=116876061&share=4f25f029&srid=RPhZF&target_type=question

Good evidence that Homo was not island hopping around the Mediterranean between 5ma and 5ka.
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The ancestor of Myotragus likely arrived in the Balearic Islands during the Messinian stage of the late Miocene at a time at which the Strait of Gibraltar closed and the Mediterranean Sea evaporated, reducing sea level within the basin by 800–1200 metres, in an event called the Messinian salinity crisis, allowing a land connection between the Iberian Peninsula and the Balearics.[14]

Later on, the opening of the straits and the massive salt water inflow isolated the animal populations, which diversified in the new Mediterranean islands created by tectonic forces. At the same time, climatic change replaced the vegetation of subtropical type with the present one of Mediterranean type, forcing Myotragus to develop drastic changes in its feeding and set of teeth.

Myotragus initially only colonized the island of Mallorca. On Ibiza a strange ecosystem without terrestrial mammals developed in which birds and bats were the main vertebrates, while in Menorca a giant rabbit, Nuralagus rex evolved that covered the same niche as Myotragus in Mallorca.[15] With the level of the sea falling due to glacial cycles during the Pleistocene, Mallorca and Menorca were periodically connected and Myotragus replaced the great Menorcan lagomorphs.[16] Both islands separated again at the beginning of the Holocene.

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Subject: Re: PC: the goat from Atlantis
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 by: Paul Crowley - Tue, 31 May 2022 20:14 UTC

On Tuesday 31 May 2022 at 03:12:03 UTC+1, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:

On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 8:13:01 PM UTC-4, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
> https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-extremely-interesting-animals-that-unfortunately-went-extinct?ch=10&oid=116876061&share=4f25f029&srid=RPhZF&target_type=question

> Good evidence that Homo was not island hopping around the Mediterranean between 5ma and 5ka.

Not so. Small, low-profile islands (like the
Balearics and Malta) often have problems
with water-supply. So, unlike larger ones
like Sardinia, they were not suitable for early
farming, nor most other kinds of permanent
settlement. Undoubtedly visited at times,
but no one stayed long.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Sardinia#Chronology_of_Pre-Nuragic_Sardinia

Modern humans appeared in the island during the Upper Paleolithic, a phalanx dated to 18000 BC had been found in the Corbeddu cave, near Oliena.[2]

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 by: I Envy JTEM - Thu, 2 Jun 2022 14:01 UTC

DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:

> Good evidence that Homo was not island hopping around the Mediterranean between 5ma and 5ka.

Are you sure? Because the first Homo, according to paleo anthropology, is habilis
and maybe habilis built time machines so they could whisk back in time a few
million years before they evolved, just so that they could island hop. You never know.

YOU never know.

You? NEVER!

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https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/685917194592436224

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Subject: Re: PC: the goat from Atlantis
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 by: DD'eDeN aka not - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 13:25 UTC

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 4:14:20 PM UTC-4, Paul Crowley wrote:
> On Tuesday 31 May 2022 at 03:12:03 UTC+1, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
>
> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 8:13:01 PM UTC-4, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
> > https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-extremely-interesting-animals-that-unfortunately-went-extinct?ch=10&oid=116876061&share=4f25f029&srid=RPhZF&target_type=question
>
> > Good evidence that Homo was not island hopping around the Mediterranean between 5ma and 5ka.
> Not so. Small, low-profile islands (like the
> Balearics and Malta) often have problems
> with water-supply.

During the MSC they were were mountains above the dry Med. and would have scraped the clouds.

So, unlike larger ones
> like Sardinia, they were not suitable for early
> farming,

Too late, that's 10ka. I meant 5ma-50ka: no boating in sea.

nor most other kinds of permanent
> settlement. Undoubtedly visited at times,
> but no one stayed long.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Sardinia#Chronology_of_Pre-Nuragic_Sardinia
>
> Modern humans appeared in the island during the Upper Paleolithic, a phalanx dated to 18000 BC had been found in the Corbeddu cave, near Oliena.[2]

Wrong, 1800 not 18,000! Nobody was in middle of Medit. until recently.

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 by: DD'eDeN aka not - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 13:26 UTC

On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 10:01:53 AM UTC-4, I Envy JTEM wrote:
> DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
>
> > Good evidence that Homo was not island hopping around the Mediterranean between 5ma and 5ka.
> Are you sure? Because the first Homo, according to paleo anthropology, is habilis
> and maybe habilis built time machines so they could whisk back in time a few
> million years before they evolved, just so that they could island hop. You never know.
>
> YOU never know.
>
> You? NEVER!
>
>
>
> -- --
>
> https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/685917194592436224
Jealous jermy?

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