I Envy JTEM wrote:
> Primum Sapienti wrote:
>
>> non sequitur
>
> That is EXACTLY what I was pointing out

I Envy JTEM wrote:
> Primum Sapienti wrote:
>
>> I Envy JTEM wrote:
>>> Meaning, what? Mushrooms don't dive so we don't need to?
>
>> Ask mv and the aa crwod
>
> You don't know what your so called "argument" is? You can't explain what
> you think you mean?

It's the aa argument.

somebody:

> It's the aa argument.

This is the "coastal dispersal" argument:

Some people are really too stupid/stubborn to understand the word "pachyosteosclerosis" (POS).
As the words says: it means thick + dense cortical bone.
It's *uniquely* seen in slow shallow diving tetrapods, esp. in salt water.
Early Pinnipedia & Cetaceas had POS, but later most of them evolved in parallel osteoporotic bones.
Osteosclerosis alone (e.g. the human disease osteopetrosis) is not POS (osteopetrosis is brittle).
POS in Hominoidea is only seen since the Pleistocene:
H.erectus>neand.>sapiens.

And many PAs are still too stupid/stubborn to see what really happened:
early-Pleistocene Homo:
-POS (connection with ice ages? Tp? lower sea-levels? other prey populations? ...?),
-dispersal along the Ind.Ocean (& later Med.Sea), incl. overseas islands, e.g. Flores,
-larger brain cf. dolphins & seals: seafood is rich in brain-specific nutrients, e.g. DHA,
-stone tools cf. sea-otters: probably they often dived for shellfish.

Only incredible imbeciles believe their ancestors ran after kudus. :-DDD

Google e.g. "Homo coastal dispersal Verhaegen".

> This is the "coastal dispersal" argument:
> Some people are really too stupid/stubborn to understand the word "pachy-osteo-sclerosis" (POS).
> As the word says: it simply means thick + dense cortical bone.
> It's *uniquely* seen in slow shallow diving tetrapods, esp. in salt water.
> Early Pinnipedia & Cetacea had POS, but later most of them evolved in parallel osteoporotic bones (faster).
> Osteosclerosis alone (e.g. the human disease osteopetrosis) is not POS (osteopetrosis is brittle).
> POS in Hominoidea is only seen since the Pleistocene AFAWK, and only in Homo.

POS erectus>neand.>sapiens.
This means: erectus dived more frequently and/or in salter water than neandertals.
Neandertals C & N isotopes are intermediate between freshwater & marine foods, but nearer to freshwater:
this suggests: neandertals had evolved from coastal to riverside, but probably seasonally followed the river to the coast (salmon??).
That sapiens & neand. belong to the same species (fertile offspring) shows that our parttime diving phase is not long ago.

> And many PAs are still too stupid/stubborn to see what really happened:
> early-Pleistocene Homo:
> -POS (connection with ice ages? Tp? lower sea-levels? other prey populations? ...?),
> -dispersal along the Ind.Ocean (& later Med.Sea), incl. overseas islands, e.g. Flores,
> -larger brain cf. dolphins & seals: seafood is rich in brain-specific nutrients, e.g. DHA,
> -stone tools cf. sea-otters: probably they often dived for shellfish.
> Only incredible imbeciles believe their ancestors ran after kudus. :-DDD

Google e.g. "Homo coastal dispersal Verhaegen".

On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 4:31:39 PM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > This is the "coastal dispersal" argument:
> > Some people are really too stupid/stubborn to understand the word "pachy-osteo-sclerosis" (POS).
> > As the word says: it simply means thick + dense cortical bone.
> > It's *uniquely* seen in slow shallow diving tetrapods, esp. in salt water.
> > Early Pinnipedia & Cetacea had POS, but later most of them evolved in parallel osteoporotic bones (faster).
> > Osteosclerosis alone (e.g. the human disease osteopetrosis) is not POS (osteopetrosis is brittle).

POS is brittle. MV
Osteosclerosis is brittle. MV
Osteopetrosis is brittle. MV

MV has no idea the meaning of brittle.

> > POS in Hominoidea is only seen since the Pleistocene AFAWK, and only in Homo.
>
> POS erectus>neand.>sapiens.
> This means: erectus dived more frequently and/or in salter water than neandertals.
> Neandertals C & N isotopes are intermediate between freshwater & marine foods, but nearer to freshwater:
> this suggests: neandertals had evolved from coastal to riverside, but probably seasonally followed the river to the coast (salmon??).
> That sapiens & neand. belong to the same species (fertile offspring) shows that our parttime diving phase is not long ago.
> > And many PAs are still too stupid/stubborn to see what really happened:
> > early-Pleistocene Homo:
> > -POS (connection with ice ages? Tp? lower sea-levels? other prey populations? ...?),
> > -dispersal along the Ind.Ocean (& later Med.Sea), incl. overseas islands, e.g. Flores,
> > -larger brain cf. dolphins & seals: seafood is rich in brain-specific nutrients, e.g. DHA,
> > -stone tools cf. sea-otters: probably they often dived for shellfish.
> > Only incredible imbeciles believe their ancestors ran after kudus. :-DDD
>
> Google e.g. "Homo coastal dispersal Verhaegen".

Op woensdag 15 juni 2022 om 11:15:54 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:

> > > This is the "coastal dispersal" argument:
> > > Some people are really too stupid/stubborn to understand the word "pachy-osteo-sclerosis" (POS).
> > > As the word says: it simply means thick + dense cortical bone.
> > > It's *uniquely* seen in slow shallow diving tetrapods, esp. in salt water.
> > > Early Pinnipedia & Cetacea had POS, but later most of them evolved in parallel osteoporotic bones (faster).
> > > Osteosclerosis alone (e.g. the human disease osteopetrosis) is not POS (osteopetrosis is brittle).

> POS is brittle. MV

Not unlikely, but you're unable to quote where I might have said that.

> Osteosclerosis is brittle. MV
> Osteopetrosis is brittle. MV

Osteopetrosis is a specific case of osteoscleroris: can't you even read??

> MV has no idea the meaning of brittle.

You have no idea of anything in PA.

My little little boy (you're becoming more+more infantile),
erectus had very thick occipita:
do you really believe they hit each other on the occiput?? :-D
Grow up.

> > > POS in Hominoidea is only seen since the Pleistocene AFAWK, and only in Homo.

> > POS erectus>neand.>sapiens.
> > This means: erectus dived more frequently and/or in salter water than neandertals.
> > Neandertals C & N isotopes are intermediate between freshwater & marine foods, but nearer to freshwater:
> > this suggests: neandertals had evolved from coastal to riverside, but probably seasonally followed the river to the coast (salmon??).
> > That sapiens & neand. belong to the same species (fertile offspring) shows that our parttime diving phase is not long ago.

> > > And many PAs are still too stupid/stubborn to see what really happened:
> > > early-Pleistocene Homo:
> > > -POS (connection with ice ages? Tp? lower sea-levels? other prey populations? ...?),
> > > -dispersal along the Ind.Ocean (& later Med.Sea), incl. overseas islands, e.g. Flores,
> > > -larger brain cf. dolphins & seals: seafood is rich in brain-specific nutrients, e.g. DHA,
> > > -stone tools cf. sea-otters: probably they often dived for shellfish.
> > > Only incredible imbeciles believe their ancestors ran after kudus. :-DDD
> > Google e.g. "Homo coastal dispersal Verhaegen".

Compounding your error does not reduce it and it certainly doesn't make
it go away. You're proving yourself to be even more foolish.

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On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 5:51:21 PM UTC-4, I Envy JTEM wrote:
> Compounding your error does not reduce it and it certainly doesn't make
> it go away. You're proving yourself to be even more foolish.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- --
>
> https://www.tumblr.com/blog/view/uapro/687163160466227200
You forgot to address your favorite tochter, panjermia.

On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 4:09:34 PM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Op woensdag 15 juni 2022 om 11:15:54 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:
> > > > This is the "coastal dispersal" argument:
> > > > Some people are really too stupid/stubborn to understand the word "pachy-osteo-sclerosis" (POS).
> > > > As the word says: it simply means thick + dense cortical bone.
> > > > It's *uniquely* seen in slow shallow diving tetrapods, esp. in salt water.
> > > > Early Pinnipedia & Cetacea had POS, but later most of them evolved in parallel osteoporotic bones (faster).
> > > > Osteosclerosis alone (e.g. the human disease osteopetrosis) is not POS (osteopetrosis is brittle).
>
> > POS is brittle. MV
> Not unlikely, but you're unable to quote where I might have said that.
:0 You've said it too many times! Your amnesia/Alzheimer's is beyond rational bounds these days!

> > Osteosclerosis is brittle. MV
> > Osteopetrosis is brittle. MV
> Osteopetrosis is a specific case of osteoscleroris: can't you even read??

All is brittle?
West Central Africans have the densest bones of all Homo today. NOT brittle!!

> > MV has no idea the meaning of brittle.
> You have no idea of anything in PA.

I study human evolution, not PA.

> My little little boy (you're becoming more+more infantile),
> erectus had very thick occipita:

Habitual orthograde terrestrial striding bipedalism selected for dense femurs and dense occiput, predecessor to modern Hs walking/running/carrying gait. No silly detours needed.

> do you really believe they hit each other on the occiput?? :-D
> Grow up.
> > > > POS in Hominoidea is only seen since the Pleistocene AFAWK, and only in Homo.
>
> > > POS erectus>neand.>sapiens.
> > > This means: erectus dived more frequently and/or in salter water than neandertals.
> > > Neandertals C & N isotopes are intermediate between freshwater & marine foods, but nearer to freshwater:
> > > this suggests: neandertals had evolved from coastal to riverside, but probably seasonally followed the river to the coast (salmon??).
> > > That sapiens & neand. belong to the same species (fertile offspring) shows that our parttime diving phase is not long ago.
>
> > > > And many PAs are still too stupid/stubborn to see what really happened:
> > > > early-Pleistocene Homo:
> > > > -POS (connection with ice ages? Tp? lower sea-levels? other prey populations? ...?),
> > > > -dispersal along the Ind.Ocean (& later Med.Sea), incl. overseas islands, e.g. Flores,
> > > > -larger brain cf. dolphins & seals: seafood is rich in brain-specific nutrients, e.g. DHA,
> > > > -stone tools cf. sea-otters: probably they often dived for shellfish.
> > > > Only incredible imbeciles believe their ancestors ran after kudus. :-DDD

Cf Dubois => Kudus Homo erectus in inland Java!!

> > > Google e.g. "Homo coastal dispersal Verhaegen".