https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-51128639

On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 5:15:43 PM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-51128639

In the northern part of the Adriatic, however, there are some sand banks where Callista clams can be collected at depths of between half a metre to one metre. In this case, the clams could be caught just by wading.

Neanderthals suffered from a medical condition called "surfer's ear".

This condition is characterised by abnormal bony growths that appear in the ear canal. It's often seen in people who take part in aquatic sports in cold climates, but it can occur simply because of repeated exposure to cold, wet weather.

At the time the paper was released, there were suggestions Neanderthals could have got it from sleeping on chilly, damp cave floors.

DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
> On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 5:15:43 PM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
>> https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-51128639
>
>
> In the northern part of the Adriatic, however, there are some sand banks where Callista clams can be collected at depths of between half a metre to one metre. In this case, the clams could be caught just by wading.
>
> Neanderthals suffered from a medical condition called "surfer's ear".
>
> This condition is characterised by abnormal bony growths that appear in the ear canal. It's often seen in people who take part in aquatic sports in cold climates, but it can occur simply because of repeated exposure to cold, wet weather.
>
> At the time the paper was released, there were suggestions Neanderthals could have got it from sleeping on chilly, damp cave floors.
>

There are indeed other causes for the condition.

littor...@gmail.com wrote:
>

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46988459

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-37904-w

Primum Sapienti wrote:

> https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46988459

This is just incredibly stupid -- absolutely brain dead.

The throwing spears appear to date back up to 400,000 years
ago, the ones they mention aren't the only evidence in
existence, they weren't Neanderthals and these weapons
disappear from the archaeological record for hundreds of
thousands of years.

"Thrusting spears" is not French for "Run up to an animal &
stab it," the way these idiots describe it.

One word: Ambush hunting.

And, yes, I am aware that it's two words but, let's be honest
here, if anyone thinks 300 to 400 thousand years ago makes
it Neanderthal then they're not very good with numbers
anyway.

They'll never notice.

> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-37904-w

The fact that throwing spears vanish for an extremely long
time, and speculation on the causes and what replaced them,
has been dealt with in this group many times, over a period
of many years.

Searching on JTEM and "throwing spears" on the Google
archive I was able to find 49 threads going back 12 years,
and quite frankly the Google archive sucks. There's likely a
great deal more. Limiting my search simply to "throwing
spears" I found 94 threads in this one group...

Introducing ideas while deliberately ignoring arguments is
a religious act. It's how one protects dogma, not a means
to advance knowledge.

Being unaware of what has long since transpired, and/or
unwilling to account for it, is not impressive. At all. No,
not in the slightest.

-- --

https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/689330400963723264

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-51128639 > >

> There are indeed other causes for the condition.

:-DDD keep running after your kudu, my boy

Neandertals
-ear exostoses
-pachyosteosclerosis
-huge brain

Only incredible imbeciles believe neandertals did not dive frequently.

Op maandag 11 juli 2022 om 14:40:41 UTC+2 schreef littor...@gmail.com:

> Neandertals
> -ear exostoses
> -pachyosteosclerosis
> -huge brain
=diving

My "reconstruction" of a diving ancestor (Med.Hypoth.1985) was very simple:
- I used what we know of erectus, unknown parts were of neandertals:
platycephaly, prognathism, for.magnum a bit more posteriorly, shorter tibias etc.
- lying on his belly + head turned rostrally (= upwards in standing humans)
- nose, beard, moustache & baldness as in present-day male:
the result was astonishingly perfectly streamlined.

No doubt our most-aquatic ancestor (+-always diving, even sleeping back-floating amid kelp??) were erectus-like:
probably early-Pleistocene & (sub)tropical: Ind.Ocean coast?
What was the effect of the Ice Ages?? Did they dive more during Glacials? or during Interglacials?

Neandertals still dived frequently, but only parttime, I'd think: parttime wading? sleeping on land??
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-51128639

On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 9:03:27 AM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Op maandag 11 juli 2022 om 14:40:41 UTC+2 schreef littor...@gmail.com:
> > Neandertals
> > -ear exostoses
> > -pachyosteosclerosis
> > -huge brain
> =diving
>
>
> My "reconstruction" of a diving ancestor (Med.Hypoth.1985) was very simple:
> - I used what we know of erectus, unknown parts were of neandertals:
> platycephaly, prognathism, for.magnum a bit more posteriorly, shorter tibias etc.
> - lying on his belly + head turned rostrally (= upwards in standing humans)
> - nose, beard, moustache & baldness as in present-day male:
> the result was astonishingly perfectly streamlined.

Traits seen in many new world arboreal monkeys.
Did they swim the Atlantic ocean?

> No doubt our most-aquatic ancestor (+-always diving, even sleeping back-floating amid kelp??) were erectus-like:
> probably early-Pleistocene & (sub)tropical: Ind.Ocean coast?
> What was the effect of the Ice Ages?? Did they dive more during Glacials? or during Interglacials?
>
> Neandertals still dived frequently, but only parttime, I'd think: parttime wading? sleeping on land??
> https://www.monkeys/news/science-environment-51128639

Op maandag 11 juli 2022 om 20:28:52 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:

> > Neandertals had
> > -ear exostoses
> > -pachyosteosclerosis
> > -huge brain
> > =diving
> > My "reconstruction" of a diving ancestor (Med.Hypoth.1985) was very simple:
> > - I used what we know of erectus, unknown parts were of neandertals:
> > platycephaly, prognathism, for.magnum a bit more posteriorly, shorter tibias etc.
> > - lying on his belly + head turned rostrally (= upwards in standing humans)
> > - nose, beard, moustache & baldness as in present-day male:
> > the result was astonishingly perfectly streamlined.

> Traits seen in many new world arboreal monkeys.

:-DDD I knew you were stupid, but not that stupid...
https://www.monkeys/news/science-environment-51128639

On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 4:29:50 PM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Op maandag 11 juli 2022 om 20:28:52 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:
>
>
> > > Neandertals had
> > > -ear exostoses
> > > -pachyosteosclerosis
> > > -huge brain
> > > =diving
> > > My "reconstruction" of a diving ancestor (Med.Hypoth.1985) was very simple:
> > > - I used what we know of erectus, unknown parts were of neandertals:
> > > platycephaly, prognathism, for.magnum a bit more posteriorly, shorter tibias etc.
> > > - lying on his belly + head turned rostrally (= upwards in standing humans)
> > > - nose, beard, moustache & baldness as in present-day male:
> > > the result was astonishingly perfectly streamlined.
>
> > Traits seen in many new world arboreal monkeys.
> :-DDD I knew you were stupid, but not that stupid...
> https://www.monkeys/news/science-environment-51128639
Your cite is dysfunctional, like your mermaid nonsense.l